Greetings from Serbia. 3-4dB up at frequencies above 10k is not some huge coloration, it's just benign and probably adds to charm of this cartridge. That's something that most users will like about this cartridge, no need to equalize it with added parallel resistance. In fact the reason some manufacturers recommend added capacitance at the input of phono stage is exactly to boost HF and make sound more "hot". For instance, Japanese companies usually have 220pF at phono input. There is so much HF loss in the sound reproduction chain, due to many factors, that HF boost is usually beneficial. I would recommend leaving this cartridge as is, not modifying phono input resistance/capacitance.
I agree it's not a big deal, but then again people invest $10s of thousands in a flat frequency response, so any source should ideally be as flat as possible.
Thanks for the info. This is what I came up with as far as freq response on my CF3600LE with my old JVC receiver. I now mated it to a TCC TC-750 preamp and it has a 220pf input capacitance. I may just turn down treble 4db for now. Should get it pretty close.
I think that good response would be in combination with standard 47k and about 120pF capacity. It can shift the bump to higher frequency, so naturally compensate the drop on higher frequencies response.
Some of us "high mileage" listeners might enjoy being able to actually increase the treble response on our cartridges to accommodate our organic high frequency losses due to age. Me, I figure that's what treble controls on preamps are for. 😊
It is a good argument and I guess that is what people call system matching, but a small peak in the upper treble isn't something that is easily heard by anyone. Your speakers or headphones probably have much worse frequency response, especially speakers in a normal room. Cheers, Jake
@@TheStuffMade I have some speakers that had a pretty bright top end. Or rather, they still have a bright top end and I just can't hear it like I used to. Maybe it's time to buy a calibrated microphone and some testing software to get an objective measure of my speakers. 🤔 😊
@@darthbubba866 I have one of those Dayton Audio measurement microphones. I've been using for quite a few years. It works really well and appears to be accurate with the included calibration file. I think you can get them for around $60 these days, they do however require a preamp with 48V phantom supply. I use it together with the ARTA software. There are also some USB measurement microphones available, that would save the whole preamp and audio interface, but I don't have any experience with those, so I don't know how good they are. Cheers, Jake
Very interesting. I am really curious how more expensive cartridges will perform. Also, basically it's possible to add some resistance in series with the capacitor. That way you will probably be able to tweak it even better.
To be fair, the gentle treble bump on this cartridge isn't something that's easy to hear, I didn't notice it when I was listening to the cartridge before doing any measurements, but with a good pair of headphones and doing A/B comparison you can hear a slight difference.
Absolutly marvelous. I'm will try that , thanks so much !
Greetings from Serbia. 3-4dB up at frequencies above 10k is not some huge coloration, it's just benign and probably adds to charm of this cartridge. That's something that most users will like about this cartridge, no need to equalize it with added parallel resistance. In fact the reason some manufacturers recommend added capacitance at the input of phono stage is exactly to boost HF and make sound more "hot". For instance, Japanese companies usually have 220pF at phono input. There is so much HF loss in the sound reproduction chain, due to many factors, that HF boost is usually beneficial. I would recommend leaving this cartridge as is, not modifying phono input resistance/capacitance.
I agree it's not a big deal, but then again people invest $10s of thousands in a flat frequency response, so any source should ideally be as flat as possible.
Thanks for the info. This is what I came up with as far as freq response on my CF3600LE with my old JVC receiver. I now mated it to a TCC TC-750 preamp and it has a 220pf input capacitance. I may just turn down treble 4db for now. Should get it pretty close.
I think that good response would be in combination with standard 47k and about 120pF capacity. It can shift the bump to higher frequency, so naturally compensate the drop on higher frequencies response.
This Cartridge can sound vary good on a quality TT
Some of us "high mileage" listeners might enjoy being able to actually increase the treble response on our cartridges to accommodate our organic high frequency losses due to age. Me, I figure that's what treble controls on preamps are for. 😊
It is a good argument and I guess that is what people call system matching, but a small peak in the upper treble isn't something that is easily heard by anyone. Your speakers or headphones probably have much worse frequency response, especially speakers in a normal room.
Cheers,
Jake
@@TheStuffMade I have some speakers that had a pretty bright top end. Or rather, they still have a bright top end and I just can't hear it like I used to. Maybe it's time to buy a calibrated microphone and some testing software to get an objective measure of my speakers. 🤔 😊
@@darthbubba866 I have one of those Dayton Audio measurement microphones. I've been using for quite a few years. It works really well and appears to be accurate with the included calibration file. I think you can get them for around $60 these days, they do however require a preamp with 48V phantom supply. I use it together with the ARTA software. There are also some USB measurement microphones available, that would save the whole preamp and audio interface, but I don't have any experience with those, so I don't know how good they are.
Cheers,
Jake
@@TheStuffMade Thank you for the recommendations!
Thanks for another great video!
Very interesting. I am really curious how more expensive cartridges will perform.
Also, basically it's possible to add some resistance in series with the capacitor. That way you will probably be able to tweak it even better.
la meilleur
Very interesting! I have 47k and whatever capacitance the cable has. Maybe I like the slight added treble.
To be fair, the gentle treble bump on this cartridge isn't something that's easy to hear, I didn't notice it when I was listening to the cartridge before doing any measurements, but with a good pair of headphones and doing A/B comparison you can hear a slight difference.
Please, test more cartridges! Borrow some xD
how did u get these graphs pls
The USB connection on some turntables will also add capacitance..I think... I had brain surgery (seriously) but I believe I am correct
No, USB connection is made for data path, it has no influence to analog part.