Classic WoW - Paladin ZF Level 40-54 Guide - 120-180k xp/hr
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All footage taken from 2d 22h Solo Self-Found Paladin 1-60 Run (2nd fastest 1-60 Solo). Most runs done with 0 consumables
0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Preperation (mostly optional)
2:45 - Talents
3:55 - Skills and Training levels
4:30 - Addons
6:00 - How to get there + evade spots
11:39 - Grave Opening
15:06 - Terms
15:26 - Pull Phase
18:02 - Kill Phase
21:31 - Logout and Loot Optimization
23:00 - 50-54 Differences to 40-50
25:08 - Witch Doctors in a pull
27:03 - Level 40/41 Shadowhunter Pack
27:20 - TBC Viability
27:51 - Outro
Level 40 Pull Example: • Classic WoW - Level 40...
Level 53 Pull Example: • Classic WoW - Level 53...
Witch Doctor Pull Example: • Classic WoW - Paladin ...
170k/hr pull, 0 consumables: www.twitch.tv/videos/90920303...
Twitch VoD link: www.twitch.tv/videos/90920634... - Hry
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Hi! I learned to solo ZF GY on lvl 40 pally thanks to you! I've leveled all the way up to 52 with basically just ZF GY in a matter of days. However, I am now running into a problem. Previously, I was getting 40-55 zombies per run; now, at level 52, I can only get 21-22 zombies to come out of the graves according to Nova Instance Tracker. I have confirmed that number is accurate with XtoLevel (a leveling addon that tracks many kinds of XP and mob kill statistics). I have done 5 runs of ZF GY since reaching lvl 52, and the number of zombies has been exactly 22 four times and 21 zombies one time out of those five runs. Is there a cap on the number of zombies that will spawn once you reach 52? Because I was getting literally twice as many zombies before. It seems unlikely to just be RNG/chance causing such a low number to consecutively appear.
I was hoping to make it to lvl 54 in ZF GY, but now I can only get like 10k XP per run, which is approaching not worth it.
I discovered a trick to more reliably get the mobs to fall for the greed jump and double back. While you are mid air jumping from the greed wall to the jump wall tap the strafe button. That appears to cause the server to update your position, which is now over the ground and not on the wall. This has helped me very reliably keep the zombies packed in tight. I think why it was mentioned that it has a chance to cause them to double back is that you're relying on whatever tick happens that updates your character position to happen while you're in the air. tapping strafe seems to force this update and they double back nearly every time
nice! thanks gonna try that
Thanks for the guide, i'm now leveling my paladin and it will come in handy when i hit 40
What an amazing guide! Thanks for creating this piece!
When you do the "Greed jump" if you strafe to the left(Press "a") mid jump the mobs will almost always path down which will cause the pack to stack better and take more damage from the "greed spot" consecrate.
just started leveling a paladin so this is perfect
Thanks for the video bossman!
Great video, thanks a lot, will definitely be doing this on my blood elf paladin in pre-patch.
I tested a couple of things with this on the beta:
- As a belf all the jumps worked perfectly, I had no issues
- Holy wrath is definitely affected by the aoe cap, it was doing reduced damage to mobs compared to classic.
- If you can afford to stack some spellpower gear the kills will go a lot faster. I did this on a level 64 paladin with ~190 SP and rank 1 consec was ticking for 24. Obviously you won't be able to get that much SP when levelling but it will make a difference for sure. I'll be wearing the spellpower engi goggles, +30 SP weapon enchant and using wizard oils, for example.
Outstanding!
nice guide really. i liked it
Great video
Thx man ! Is this worth in mage at the same level too ? or it's better to follow your full mage guide route?
Thanks for the video! Im struggling so hard though, 2 wipes out of 2 tries. I hope I get it eventually :( looks like its so much fun
Give it time u Will learn and rock it after a while 😁👍 gl
@@kristofferbergman5973 It's going better now! Managed to get a 99k/h - currently my personal record. I've done 2 lvls this way so far and its so fun 😁
Heya Tommy! what talents do i wanna use with the tbc talent tree? :)
sick guide boii
Hi everyone, I recently used this guide and everything still works, if you are level 40, you have got to be patient with regards to the evade spots etc. Once you're past 40 it's a breeze.
My advice would be go when you are 41 or 42 to be safe.
GL and thanks to Tommy for the guide.
Okay first thanks for the video. 2nd, I could NOT make that first jump, with all the mobs pressuring me I just could not get the gapping/timing right. After 5 failed attempts, on the 6th I discovered by accident the crevice of the corner on the ground at that joint is a reset point. Mobs will reset, you can run back up avoiding the basilisk and take your time making that jump.
Any update on changes to make now that we have TBC talents?
Good Vid! How would you level past 54? AoE Grinding outside of instances?
Ret or boosted ZG, gear requirement too big to be worth aoe farming
great Vid and Tips, thx alot. Question: Where to go from 54 up to 60? Lasher in DM; wihich Spec and items; any idea? :)
i just went ret and quested ungoro->felwood->winterspring->WPL->EPL->felwood->winterspring iirc
really nice guide :) quick question tho : how much harder do you think it is not having grenades? Since im not doing Engineering on my fresh Toon i wonder if i could still do this :)
its not harder at all, its just slower due to losing some damage
@@Tommysalamiwow I'm looking to do this during pre-patch. I don't want to go engi but is it worth picking up EZ throw dynamite for these runs?
@@muudzi For sure, i forgot to mention it on consumables list
prepatch PTR update: blood elf females can make all of the jumps, and use all of the evade spots shown in this video. I did not test male.
tried the male, completed a run with no problems
@@iroh7998 Belf Male cannot use spot in 8:45 , model is too tall and casters cannot be LoS'ed
Do you think once pre-patch hits it will be worthwhile skilling further into the holy tree and putting points into 'purifying power'? (Reduces mana cost on concecrate and increases crit chance on holy wrath)
Yo, i'm looking into this for pre-patch too. My thinking right now is that it'll probably be better to get the 15% bonus dmg from ret.
I tried it know 4times with my lvl 40 paladin, but got always dismounted and died on the way to the graves >.
Do any of the changes in SoM impact this?
Is that jump at 6:38 possible as a dwarf? I've tried this about 5-10 times and died trying to make that jump every time.
How much spirit do you suggest? I keep going OOM and am going through lots of mana pots. At level 51 I'm basically only using R1 consecrate and Holy Wrath.
If you're going oom, you're probably consecrating the greed spot, at 50+ you need to value Holy Wrath -> r4 consecrate Killspot -> r3 consecrate killspot
I call it "greed spot" because you can only consecrate it with shitloads of mana pots at 50+, i should've highlighted it more, mb
@@Tommysalamiwow Thanks, that helped a lot. Not a flawless run that time but hitting about 65k xp/h!
If you have plenty gold, you reckon it's worth to use weapon oils? If so, would you think mana or wizard oil is better? Also, do you think using arcane/greater arcane elixirs would be worth it? I plan to go as fast as I can during pre-patch as Horde, so I want to use any advantage I can get :D
You'd have to do some calculations to see if 12 mp5->36 spell damage (i think coefficients for consecrate are 33%, so 36 spell damage = 12 total damage over the whole duration), same with arcane elixirs
@@Tommysalamiwow Thanks for the quick reply!
Thought consecration got 100%
@@davidrockefeller2007 Sorry to necro this old comment, you probably know by now, but in vanilla, consecrate does have 33% coefficient. Then TBC rolled around and decided to triple it in an effort to help prot paladins scale appropriately with spell damage gear.
Very interesting! However you said that the pull would become more viable in TBC, but doesn't AoE damage get nerfed once pre-patch hits?
Consecrate and Flamestrike ground aoe damage aren't nerfed by aoe cap, just every other spell
And if holy wrath gets nerfed (which it might) then it won't effect times too much as you get r4 consecrate
@@Tommysalamiwow Alright cheers, thanks for the reply! Didn't know that consecrate won't get nerfed.
Leveling a pally on endless I’ll try it out and let you know
@@dovideliezer Won't work on endless, private servers have different pathing mechanics to classic, so they'll just run up the walls or some shit
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I don't quite understand the xp leash idea. I think I'm hitting mobs more frequently than 30 seconds yet I get like 500 xp instead of 1000+.
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What kind of talent build would work here in TBC? you think it might be easier in TBC talents?
It'll be easier due to the added movespeed from PoJ as well as not having to waste talents in holy so you can rush sanctity early
Is this run still viable? Someone said that blizzard made a "no changes" fix where mobs in dungeons teleport to next to you when you try to use reset spots.
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NO WAY BRO THIS IS INSANE TOMMY IS INSANE BRO NO WAY I LEARNT TO DO THIS MAD THING NO WAY NOOO WAY
what we do if full reset?
each kill phase is taking me like ~12 minutes..is this too long?
tried it out with 40 for like 5-6 hours, some shit is always messing up -___-"
getting dazzeled so much and I almost always fail the jumps, holy this run is hard.
Will try some more tomorrow...
Same here, 2,5 hours and 13 wipes, shit is hard for Male Belf, some spots have different collision for jumping or LoS'ing
any update on tbc talents?
dwarfs can do the jump, just did it on my 40 pala
Would you recommend this method for leveling horde pally in prepatch?
just tryed it in Pre patch PTR.. Works gr8, even better ... although u cant click graves while boubled but thats just an essay run to reset spot
I dont get XP leash. When you start the pull, are the mobs damaged by you in less than 30 seconds? If not, would that mean you get 0 exp from the entire pull?
It's only based on their current hp, so if you do no damage for 30 seconds and their health is 100%, you get 100% xp still (aka, what happens during the pull phase).
If you do no damage for 30s and their health is at 35%, then if you kill them, you only get 35% of the original xp
@@Tommysalamiwow oh ty. In ZF now trying this out, its pretty fun even if I dont make it. Thanks regardless of whether I can do it or not!
do you will try to farm ZG on paladin? i see some 4 pack farm
You could probably do it at 54-60 with invis pots to get past the first mobs and then LIPs/Grenades to keep the mobs stacked for a 4 pack pull, but im not leveling a paladin again to try it out
if you dont have the quest item to pull stuff or engineering can you still do this pull?
bit harder, you'd have to jump down and pull the mobs under the arch, or hope that one turn undead in the first set of graves you pull and exorcisming the mobs under the arch will pull everything without it being awkward when you drop down later
@@Tommysalamiwow Thank you for that! Ive been struggling all day on this. Im lvl 47 but havent been able to complete a kill phase yet. :/ not sure what im doing wrong
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Do You Think it's worth training engineering to 250 when trying to be as fast as possible?
yes
@@aurawolf664 a bit late xd but thx
I thought they made these pathing exploits illegal ages ago?
not getting dazed at 40 is hard af lmfao
Need defense gear.
Was wondering, why would you need spirit gear when paladins do not benefit from it in combat as they have no talent for mana regen in combat? @tommysalami
Because after 5 seconds of no casting, you start naturally regenerating mana every 2s. that naturally regenerated mana amount is based off your spirit. You don't need any talents for it and isn't tied to whether you're in combat or not.
@@Tommysalamiwow roger I completely forgot about that thank you! Will you be making an updated guide on this for the prepatch? Very curious on the talent choice
@@thenoxous maybe not a full guide, but i'd like to do one with updated info
I can't seem to find drop the cheapest thing addon.. am i just being dumb or is it called something else?
its 1 word (dropthecheapestthing), should be on curseforge
@@Tommysalamiwow Thank youuuu soo muuuch!!!
I am a mage and was curious how pallys do it, and wow its way harder hahah. Mages have it so much easier
At 0.09 How to get 160K XP without a single consumable and then goes on to list consumables you'll need.
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difficulty: Medium
this shit is so hard for me to do almost doesn't feel worth it. D:
Yeah I gave up man constantly dismounted
"without using a single consumable"
Yet he use many scroll and supporting items (no offense)
To be fair, it's easy to do with just improved BoW, but I won't lie, it takes forever since you can basically only ever cast rank 1 Consecration
@@Zergleman at what level we can take improved BoW? And where is the location to learn it?
@@syambayaan The talent is below consecration. You can put 2 points into it
@@Zergleman ahh! Got it thanks bruh
pretty sure this is a load of BS been attempting just to get there for 2 hours finaly got there and then i fell behind the boss pots and got stuck having to hearth out again i think its a load of bs
Iam to dumb for this, but looks nice =_)
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Posted, ty for reminding
sadly this is now null and void. blizzard pls revert your dogshit changes
"Without using a single consumable" "Okay buy a ton of mana potions to consume"
You're...not very smart...are you?
Oh sweet irony, did you not finish the video?
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