Milton Bradley Grandmaster Robotic Chess Computer ⚫ Gadgetify
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This is the Milton Bradley Grandmaster (MB Grandmaster) chess robot: a chess computer from the early 1980s with 12 levels of play, piece sensing board, and a robotic arm inside that moves them. It does not have the strongest chess engine but has hint, replay, auto setup and auto play functions.
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You can use two rows of buttons to perform all the functions, including start games, verify pieces, and changing levels. This chess robot was marketed as MB Phantom in England, MB Grandmaster in the US and Milton in Germany.
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Fuck! My father had one EXACTLY like this!!!!
It was not very hard to beat for someone who really knew how to play chess, but c'mon! That was fucking awesome!
He gave it to someone and died a few years later, and when I tell my friends that he had a chessboard that played against him IN THE FUCKING 80'S (!) no one believes me.
I've looked in lots of places and never found it. Thanks that gave me some sweet good old memories
What was its play style? Old chess computers are quite cheap nowadays since the demand for it has died from old age, humanity is on smartphone.
@@kosterix123 my father was a pro chess player. He even invented an opening that was really usefull to play in 1 minute games.
Easy to beat on the low levels BUT the higher you go the harder it is.
Hard to believe how much press square off has gotten, without a single mention about how old the concept is.
Amazing!
I just ordered the Grand Kingdom set by square off.. I've read some mixed reviews about it, hope this new generation is better than its predecessor
Is it worth it?
I have one like this from the 1980s in the attic! I think it might have been shown on tomorrow's world!
same model? There is this, Fidelity 6100, Fidelity Chesster. They all look similar
@@Gadgetify just got it down, phantom version. Works as expected, box for pieces and tatty user guide. I had it new from a friend around sometime 1983-1985
@@brianbenson412 these machines are a work of art. I have 5 different ones. They ALL work. No issues. no malfunction. Truly amazing. The only downside is the fairly weak engine but understandable considering when they were made.
1984 super constellation ELO 1900...
What an amazing technology from 1980 even nowadays that device still jaw dropping.
But I am curious how if the player did illegal move and how the device would reacts, and how if the player put pieces in wrong place could it recognize and rearrange the sets?
It makes a beep and doesn't let you make illegal moves. I do know that if you put a piece on the right square but maybe not properly, the board centers it. You have to push the board to register, so if you put the piece on the wrong square and don't register the move, you can't continue.
you have to sort of manually rearrange things if you mess up the position because the game will move the pieces around but you have to verify it's the right piece by making the game tell you what it's supposed to be. Don't think the game can quite reach out and slap your hand to prevent you from cheating, obviously, lol, but you can at least go backwards and the game will reset to the previous position (as long as you put the matching pieces on the right squares). It's slow af and clunky but it's so damn cool and it does an impressive amount of shit
@@Gadgetify Do you know how many MB Phantom chess computers were were sold in the uk?
Have one all boxed but used condition every thing there & working.
@@swestlon169 I have no idea to be honest to be honest. But if it is in good condition, you should be able to get good money for it
@@Gadgetify Its in Very good condition all working nothing broke and boxed. What do you think it could be worth. By the way your video was excellent.
Castling at 6:29 and promotions at 10:31 and 11:52 for anyone interested.
As a child I used to see one of these running on demo mode in a shop window. I always lusted after one but as a kid I could never afford one. One thing that does surprise me is how noisey it is. For some reason I thought it would be silent.
to be honest, these are old and maybe if I service them, the noise will be lower. Phantom Force is even noisier: czcams.com/video/O-NFsDWozew/video.html
Square Off is a bit less but not totally silent.
TPIR brought me here. At least the thing is nice and quiet......
If you turn the sound off...
I have one of these given to me by my 8th grade math teacher and I don't know how to fix it but it's still a fun chess set
These are not hard to fix if the problem is just the robotic mechanism. It's just time consuming having to recalibrate.
@@Gadgetify thank you
Which spurred the development of ANC headphones...
This was a nice piece of hardware for its time
honestly, still very reliable. Newer chess robots have failed me way more often. This thing works like a charm even now
It was so satisfying to watch. Thank you!
fantastic a gem
one of my favorites. Oldie but goodie :)
I have the electronic grandmaster board and electrical cord. However, I need original electronic chess pieces that go with the grandmaster. Anyone out there have the complete chess pieces?
I grew up on this board. Something failed in it and my father who is an electrical engineer couldnt fix it because no schematics could be found. Im looking to purchase one if any has one for sale feel free to comment here
there is a guy on CZcams who opens and fixes these And also has a site with photos and explains it. I can't find the link again but I do remember considering buying a 6126 model and trying to fix it with his help
theres a guy on a facebook group called Chess equipment - Buy, sell, or trade. that has one for sale that is brand new!
There worth more than people think because there was not that many sold. Turned down 1k for mine on a forum it’s a uk one. Know of USA 1 selling for 1000 dollars without a lid.
Excalibur Mirage was offered to me for 150.00 like new in box. Is it worth it?
Mirage robots are known for breaking apart easily. Look, I am a collector. I paid $400 for a Novag 2robot that didn't even work. However, if you want something that will last you a while, go with a Milton Bradley or Fidelity 6100. Here is a comparison: czcams.com/video/bGI3pPIXid8/video.html
@@Gadgetify I listened to your advice and didn't buy it. Thanks for the quick response. It was on Mercari for a special offer.
@@JERRYR708 I just gave my honest opinion. It's been too much trouble with this board for me. I have 3 Excalibur Mirages. I bought mine for about $100 each. One never worked. The other works for 3 minutes, then starts moving the pieces all over the place regardless of the game. The third one I fixed myself. It works OK. OK for a video or two. Then starts losing track of the pieces, so I have to open it, fix the magnet inside again, reset and do it again.
This is the same reason I didn't buy Square Off Swap and Neo. Those also seem to be having these issues. Fidelity 6100, Excalibur Grandmaster, Phantom Chesster, these are robots I own that never ever have failed me.
@Gadgetify Yeah, 150.00 is a lot of money for an old novelty item with a lot of mechanical parts doomed for failure even upon arrival. I did manage to buy the Chessnut Air on holiday sale for 169.00 out the door. I hope I made the right decision.
@@JERRYR708 you can't go wrong with Chessnut Air or DGT Centaur. They are solid boards. The Air+ is apparently coming soon, so that's a bit bigger but same technology. I mainly use these robotic chessboards to play with my cats at this point. haha. I prefer regular boards. Much more reliable.
I just got a full working one for free anybody know what the going price is for one
So cool. And for the time it had to be amazing. If I could afford one Id buy it of course. But that horrible noise lol Sounds like a garbage disposal. Still cool tho.
a lot of these older robots are noisy. Phantom Force makes even worse noise. :)
These machines are cheap now
i have one, but missing the AC adapter, where i can find it?
your best bet is eBay or get something with comparable voltage: i.imgur.com/BTiDEV8.jpg
@@Gadgetify I have a set with the original ac adapter still working. the set itself turns on and self adjusts, but doesn't move any more. I'd like to sell the whole set
@@JBoydJBoyd I bought a set to repair on eBay for $100. You may be able to get more but there are always people looking for parts. You can either try to sell it as parts (e.g. sell the pieces, adapter, manual separately or just combine them and see how much you can get). Have you tried eBay?