@@ValentinParkourGaming Ah I live in South Korea. Since CN/KR/JP shares some of chinese characters, I can assume the Chinese characters from Korean version. btw, amazing video as always!
Agree with Nagakiba. As soon as I got it, my mind was blown with how elegant and fast can you be. No cheap tricks, you learn how to work it around and you can be a beast. Underrated
So is this based solely off pvp for the nagakiba? Because rivers of blood and moonveil do way more damage to bosses atleast in my time playing the game.
@@hayvanejones8791agreed! i use the nagakiba with the uchigatana (dual wield) and it's disgusting. The moveset is so good and with blood flame blade and flame, grant me strength, it shreds
I love the moonveil man it’s my favourite katana and I’m also in love with the rivers of blood but the amount of toxicity around using both in pvp really turns me off it the amount of hate mail i’ve gotten while using these weapons is crazy so i just switched to bloody helice
@@billyray6210 Don't let them stress you bro. I make Hybrid builds on every Fromsoft Game. Actually every RPG that allows it. I made my Battle Sage long before I knew Moonveil existed and while I've changed my weapons on and off there's no shame in using whatever. Besides, Moonveil is easy to dodge and if they can't that's cause they suck
I think my favorites are either serpantbone or dragonscale, both are really good in terms of visual design but it adds some uniqueness in the katana list, not only giving us a frost lightning infused death machine but a poison debuffer which make a fun and interesting combo when paired. (Guess I’m a fan if the weaker stuff)
For me Moonveil is simply S+ just because of how easy you can get it early. You can even go there at lvl 1 Samurai class and get it right away by defeating the boss, which isn't hard because of how easy it is to memorize it's attack pattern. (might get a few tries). Compared against something like Rivers of Blood or Malenia's Katana.
If you actually want to be like Musashi, you don't need to powerstance two katanas, but rather use a katana with vakizashi (a dagger that looks like a short katana and powerstances with them). That's what his actual dual wielding technique looked like, and actually Okina pretty much represents Musashi in the game, as he also uses vakizashi in pair with rivers of blood.
you're telling me that I found the strongest katana in the game in the most random way possible and I didn't even know it, I absolutely have to get to 20 dexterity
As a Katana user through and through, I really enjoyed your list, and I'd say I'm in agreement with most - maybe toilet tier was a bit harsh for the bone blade 🤣🤣🤣🤣. It needs too much to be a day to day katana, and that's why the Uchi and Naga are my go to. Thier versatility is just bonkers. For PVE I use Uchis and in the arena dual nagas all the way.
Lol yes this is exactly what I told myself after the video was over ^^ Toilet is a bit harsh, but at least it was funny right :) thanks for your sweet message :)
I like Meteoric the most, but I use it on a strength build and 2H it. It's really easy to roll catch people with the R2 when they're pulled in by the AoW. Srength/Int is one of my more favored setups. I'm a little shocked with Hand of Malenia's rating. The ash of war is pretty bad. I like Sperpentbone because of the R2. It always triggers the damage on successive attack talismans.
yh tbh I think Malenias one at best is only B tier, doesn't deserve to be up with the likes of uchigatana or RoB ash of war is extremely situational in both pve and gameplay lmao
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@@Rust_BKT Look Who is talking ! I have just stole the intro of PVP skillz, if you look at his videos, mine are pretty much copy pasted form his videos
This tier list series is one of the best sources of weapon info out there! Would love to see you make a tier list of collosal greatswords! They are my favorite weapon type in every darksouls game and now in elden ring!
Nagakiba is the GOAT!!! Half of my first playthrough was with this beast, until I realized that I've always been into the strength heavy build. I thought I could escape DS3 by going dex in Elden Ring, but strength build will always be in my heart. But I still use the nagakiba from time to time, and infuse it with whatever incantations and ashes of war. It is really fun!
To start, I only play PvE myself. I had to do at least one playthrough with a character named Miyamoto Musashi and using two katanas, I believe I used all of them throughout the playthrough at one point, but the Dragonscale and Meteoric Ore blade were two of my favorites. Using the Wakazashi dagger that powerstances with katanas also made the build more interesting.
@vngxrd GUTS GS with focus on Str/End/Vig. Golden Vow. Flame Grant Me Strength. Lion's Claw Ash of War with Heavy affinity. Blood Flame Incantation. Starscourge Talisman, Radahn Soreseal, or axe talisman. You will make all of Elden Ring your bitch. Easily the strongest build I have made up until mid game. At level 40 you will be stance breaking and killing every boss with a few Lion's Claws or heavy charged attacks. And best of all.. all of this can be acquired within a couple hours of starting a new playthru, along with enough smithing stones to +15 the sword. Simply OP build. Early game put the strength tear and the faith tear in your physick. This will give you the faith needed to cast the incantations and you'll be hitting like a truck. Golden Vow Ash of war is not as good at the incantation but will serve you well placing it on a dagger until later game and it can be acquired very early game along with everything else I have listed.
I did a run with Meteoric Ore Blade recently and was pleasantly surprised. despite it only having only a "C" scaling in strength it was getting 500 physical damage without buffs on just a basic strength build. Plus the unique R2 is great at breaking enemy's posture, this weapon destroyed all main game bosses in only 4 hours from a fresh save! Its not the best katana but I'd say at LEAST B teir.
Only correction I have about rivers is that at launch it’s scaling was broken. It wasn’t until it’s scaling was fixed in a later patch (1.0.4 if I’m remembering it right) that it became a monstrous weapon that made people break controllers.
The serpent bone blade had been my favorite katana since I got it and almost had me change my build during my first play through. It looks almost like a rapier with the intricate guard with an elegant savagery once you see the spines and such in the details if the weapons design. And it feels like a SWORDSMENS weapon, no overpowered ash of war, no dummy long range. Just you, your blade, some poison, and your moveset. I love this weapon
@Valentin Gaming Athlete ofc ofc lol, you just helped me remember a hole in my knowledge. Foreman is tied for my favorite fighter of all time. And the number one guy I would never want to get hit by
These thumbnails are godly, also the uchigatana works great for pure strength builds as it gives you an A scaling on the heavy affinity and has a small dex requirement. loved the video :D
Fun fact about the serpent weapons' poison, (the katana, fists, shield), can be strong poison. The game doesn't tell you, but the poison can be more aggressive than standard poison, like an in-between of regular poison and scarlett rot. (Side note: the fists with bleed, paired with a rot weapon is a good snowballing combination)
Super impressive video! It was so interesting hearing the background and inspirations for the katanas. I had no idea the power stance moveset was inspired by someone. Very fascinating.
from the intro dialogue to the epic intro-intro video/voiceover to the actual content. this is a quality video. in 2024 you see so much garbage, you really have to appreciate people putting in effort. dude ur good at what you're doing. well done.
Thank u so much man it means a lot. I have got inspired and pretty much copied the style of an old school youtube called PvPSkillz. Since he stopped making content since dark souls 3 I have decided to keep is work
@@ValentinParkourGaming quite admirable. Probably going to inspire someone yourself in the future. And thats the best legacy you can leave behind. Just like he inspired you. Keep it up !
Finally, someone else who agrees that Malenia completely lost to Radahn and only got out alive because she nuked all of Caelid. That aside, I still think my favorite katana is either the Nagakiba or Serpentbone. Powerstancing is fun with them.
@@ValentinParkourGaming Bro, he literally diced her prosthetics like warm butter, I swear if Malenia didn't use her big flower hacks to nuke an entire country, Radahn wouldn't have been cursed with Giga Aids for the rest of his life, lmao
@@ValentinParkourGaming dont forget that after her last pathetic attempt at winning failed , she fainted and was left to die covered with wounds in a pool of her blood and rot , radahn pretty much left out of pity , if not for finlay saving her she wouldve died the most embarrassing death , whenever i mention any of this on a related video to the subject i get bombarded by weebs crying.
@@ValentinParkourGaming It probably has something to do with the game outright saying as much and the fact that before she ever used the rot she impaled him to the ground like a butterfly. Radahn is the only demigod who has lost to every demigod he's fought (he got his cheeks clapped by Morgott) besides Godrick. Kinda sad ngl.
Yes you are right. Moonveil and nagakiba are the best. Just got my second moonveil so i am dual vielding those because i have int at 80 and i am using sorcery also.
Great video! I like the Moonveil better than the Nagakiba. That ash of war is just ridiculously good at deleting opponents. And the fact that it pisses people off so much is a huge bonus, lol.
@@bbyponk I don’t know, mate, seems like the people getting mad at a weapon in a video game being used are the toxic ones. Laughing at their toxicity seems like a pretty good way to deal with it.
I adore the Serpentbone blade, but I sadly think you summed it up pretty well. It has a gorgeous design and an amazing heavy and the deadly poison makes it an actually useful weapon, but it cant escape the bottom tiers with its poor build up. I think it would be an amazing niche if it had even a small bit of arcane scaling to increase the build up.
Uchigatana SAVED MY LIFE when I struggled against Godrick. The bleed effect is what truly makes the weapon, and it can stagger some man sized enemies easily if you land a five hit R1 combo. I was able to get early game souls farming in Caelid because of it, so I was eventually able to completely melt Godrick’s health. 🔥
Not gonna let the malenia slander slide she released the rot because she wanted to put her brother on the throne. It was a sacrifice of everything she was for his dream. Also Rahadahan would have just rebuilt the golden order because he was a Godfrey fan boy. Which kinda makes him the villain of the conflict, still a great character though.
Nah nah nah he was try to take over and he prevent the stars from moving before the war started because daddy told him to screw over the carion royals. Now I do believe he was stronger then her but she did not release the rot because she was prideful she did it as a sacrifice to defeat the strongest demigod to realize her brother's dream. The lore stats she thought she would die for the cause and everything even her pride and reputation as a warrior was worth that dream. Rahadahan is far more of a I want the status quo to remain type of character. It was a battle of tradition vs change
Yeah but u are talking about morale I am talking about skills and who is beating the ass of who Radahn is ripping through her like butter watch the story trailer again buddy. But if u wanna keep simping for this worthless and skilless b¥tch then all the power to you L’amour rend aveugle
@@ValentinParkourGaming by the way great tier list, I have to say your rankings were on point. Most of my first new game pluses (the first 2 to be exact) were katana builds and I kinda ran the whole game only for katanas. Personally I enjoy the versatility of the nagakiba and its range. Currently on new game +5 with rivers of blood. What's your favorite overall?
Might be popular opinion but I just fucking love the Rivers of Blood so much. The Ash of War on it is so cool, and even still the weapon just looks sick in general.
I actually ended up doing a katana run partly inspired from your tier list that I just finished. Ironically I ended up using the Dragonscale Blade throughout the majority if not the entire run lol. I am honestly starting to think it is a underrated gem. Like you said in your list, the Dragonscale Blade buffed with it's AoW ends up being one of the hardest hitting katanas of them all and this thing was taking chunks out of boss and player health bars. Combined with a procced frostbite, I don't think people understand just how much damage this blade is capable of dealing. I'd say it can even outperform bleed procs and was very useful against (the few) enemies immune to bleed. It's range can be a bit annoying at times, but even as the second shortest it really isn't much shorter than the golden standard uchi. I won't deny that the Dragonscale Blade still suffers especially when compared to the gods that are Nagi and Moonveil, but I do feel like Dragonscale Blade isn't getting enough credit either. I'd say it could fit nicely C-B tier. And maybe even A tier when bleed gets its eventual nerf. But that is my take right now. Now time to try Serpentbone Blade :D
ur Japanese pronunciation is on spot 💯 it makes me appreciate the video and got hooked into it! a lot of ppl dont really pronounce Japanese names / words properly so thank you! ty for the guide aswell 👏
Arigato my friend, this is the best compliment I could ever receive. Everytime I say words in another language, I always try my best to respect the culture and pronounce it right :)
See alot of people fail to realize that with rivers of blood the weapon itself didn’t really get a nerf, it was primarily just it’s ash of war. ROB is definitely one the hardest hitting light weapons in the game, I’ve gotten mine to do close to about 800 AR with NO buffs at all, so if you just powerstance two of them and only use the ash of war to roll catch or surprise attack someone it’s arguably one the better weapons and one of the best katanas in the game
the Meteoric Ore Blade will always have a special place in my heart because it was my weapon for my first playthrough so weapons like Rivers of blood will never compare to it.
Man your vids are top tier! Super entertaining ro watch! Nice work! Now I ain't a katana guy but Nakakiba is my pick. Although i love my rob swap for the bleed prock.
You are absolutely right.... Nagakiba is the best katana as you find yourself top on combating. 🙏 Personally.... in my 2nd play through I keep Nagakiba on board (ashes of War -double slash with ice build up achived 117 dps and 45 blood build up as well) till end game as well as moonveil in left hand,, smoking enemy top to bottom. Many thanks.... For your great katana ranking video and your rating is perfect 💯
I use Nagakiba and Moonveil in both hands. Nagakiba on right hand with Bloodhound Step and Moonveil on left hand. People recognize the Moonveil and expect the skill spamming, and then they see you disappearing all of the sudden and lose their minds. And when they less expect it, you dualhand Moonveil and do a ranged finishing blow with the skill. 10/10 best magic Shinobi experience in Elden Ring.
Serpentbone blade is my favorite katana, I usually poison my enemies, but I do use the single katana. Its R2 is very good, if you catch opponents with it they will be very close of being poisoned. Great video.
What I like is you rank according to pvp. Other channels rank using pve with summons. I play pve solo, and your ranking is closer to mine, because fighting bosses solo requires 2 things pvp needs too - speed and reach. Other channels just rank according to damage because they got a distraction bot
In Patch 1.10 the Katana got a slight boost (maybe not all of them, not sure). I play exclusively PVE. These tier ratings are always PVP ratings as if that's all that matters. The Nagakiba is by far the best Katana. I use Incantations to pair with specific enemies (Bloodflame is my favorite) but also use various greases. The range is awesome. It is also perfect for mounted combat because of the range. I use Double Strike for its AOW as I find it proc's Bleed faster (might be my imagination but I also like how it looks and that matters too). Moonveil is my second favorite. I use it in my main hand about 40% depending on the enemy. Meteoric Ore Blade definitely has its place as well. Gravitas followed by heavy attack is often the answer to a problem. The off hand is paired with a katana. Usually Uchigatana but it may vary. ...\
@@ValentinParkourGaming The Nagakiba is S tier for pve with incantations to fit the occasion. Moonveil also fits the bill but its shorter length makes the difference for me. I like Moonveil for dealing mobs/hoards that risk overwhelming me, the AOW cuts a nice path. Rivers of Blood just isn't the sword it used to be so A tier. Bloodflame on the Nagakiba does more damage I think.
Hand of melania is my favorite :) I just love that it take skill to land attacks in pvp especially with waterfowl dance! In my opinion they probably should’ve made it stronger initially but for what it is I just love it!
Nah. Rivers of Blood is still an easy S tier. Not only does it have both big importance in design for being super recognizable and is part of ER history for breaking the game with a free EZ mode… But it also has the elemental play! Use ice and mix with Rivers to proc the explosion over and over again! I hate that people got an EZ mode… but rivers is so great I even did a playthrough with it back when Arcane scalling didn’t exist!
Also. Moonveil also had a game breaking history of bringing EZ mode. It used to do INSANE posture damage! So PvE was RIP and PVP was also RIP because the standard magic damage was also higher.
Nagakiba is the washing pole from dark souls 2, washing pole was pretty busted in that game too, along with chaos blade. I wish chaos blade made a reappearence in elden ring
Whenever i feel like using katanas , i power stance with Moonveil and Nagakiba , Moonveil on main hand for the Vergil cosplay attacks and Nagakiba in off hand for the reach , Already knew they were gonna be S-tier 😂
S-Tier: Nagakiba, Moonveil A-Tier: Rivers of Blood, Dragonscale Blade B-Tier: Uchigatana, Meteoric Ore Blade, Hand of Malenia C-Tier: Serpentbone Blade In my opinion, not the actual video ranking. I just like the Meteoric Ore Blade which is why I put it in B instead of C.
I really don't care about the RoB hate, I was always a Sam and Murasama fanboy and I just had to use it. Plus, I was using Nagakiba with double slash until I got it, so I already got used to the moveset.
I sat fighting that stupid lava wyrm for 6 hours straight trying to get moonveil There were four seperate occasions where i almost killed the boss but died when it had a sliver of health left
I love the feel and moveset of the Serpentbone. The slashing is so clean. Simple and effective katana! Just power stance with a bleed katana and you're kicking ass!
I use the fully leveled blood Uchigatana with bloodhound step, and have fun watching the bloody overpowered Mage snipers run for their lives when I close the distance in blinding speed. Then if they crowd over team mates in united combat, bringing out Radahn's greatsword and smash them with starcallers cry. Instant 3 if they are unlucky enough.
The truth is that I would like a katana that allows you to change from ash to have the charged attack of the meteoric katana, that is what I especially love about that katana because it is much easier to break postures with it.
I really want to use the moonveil for NG+3 and beyond, but Moonveil falls off due to bosses getting a buff in HP for every new playthrough (stops scaling at NG+7), so I'll stick with rivers of blood and nagakiba.
The nagakiba is a pretty good weapon all around, and so is one of the best weapons in the game. It has very good reach, intrinsic bleed, decent AR, gets access to running R2 poke, gets the fast version of ashes like spinning slash, does very quick attacks when powerstanced. Like if you need a weapon for something, chances are the nagakiba can fulfill that role pretty decently. I haven't done much pvp at all, but using a dex setup with duel nagakiba, I had a 30 win streak in the colosseum duels. I also found decent success in using a soft swap hoslow petal whip with hoarfrost stomp, since it would add more range and methods to pressure and deal damage if opponents were playing too passively.
You need to fact check your lore. Radahn and Malenia were locked in stalemate. There was no clear winner in that fight. If anything they both took Ls. Also, the meteoric ore blade is literally made from meteoric ore. Hence the name of the weapon. And it clearly states that in the description. And radahn's swords are stated to be made of black steel. Which he later imbues with his gravity magic that he learned in sellia.
You are right about the meteoric ore blade, but about Malenia you are delusional. She got beat up ! she was so f%cked that she had to use cheats ( the god of rot ) to not even win. To just end up in a stalemate. This how weak she is, even with the help of god she can't even trully beat him. Radahn was beating her to a pulp ( look at the story cutscene ), only using his skills ( swords and magic ) while he was protecting his horse and holding the f+cking stars from moving ! Malenia is just a weak *ss b%itch ! and a lier !
@Valentin Gaming Athlete I don't know why people consider having been cursed with scarlet rot as a benefit or a cheat. Malenia has been rotting from the inside out since the day she was born. This affliction literally made her gradually lose multiple limbs and go blind. And she didn't use it against her enemies whenever. It truly was a last resort that she tried to avoid using and only uses it a couple times in her long life. Saving it for the most desperate of circumstances. This affliction was so horrible that her brother Micquella spent a lot of his time and effort looking for a way to cure Malenia of her rot (and his own curse of eternal childness). Don't get me wrong. I love Radahn. He is one of my fav bosses both for gameplay and lore. But I think both Radahn and Malenia have fascinating and tragic stories (as is the case with most characters in from soft games). And it's reductive to say that one is drastically superior and the other is a weakling or a cheat. If we follow your argument, that Radahn is way more powerful than Malenia. Then why isn't he able to just obliterate her easily. Now before you say that it was because it was cuz he was also holding back the stars at the same time. Malenia was being held back too. She has been her whole life with the literal rot slowly destroying her body. If Radahn is the easy winner over the two, then why isn't he able to defeat Malenia, a literally disabled, prosthetic wearing, blind, and sick demigod? Maybe Malenia wasn't as weak as you claim she was. I'm not saying that one is better or stronger than the other. I'm just addressing your statement of Radahn is way stronger than Malenia, which I disagree with. Also, you referenced the cinematic trailer of them fighting. That was a very short instance of a much greater and longer battle. It's literally the final moments of their fight before malenia unleashes rot in caelid. Which in the bigger picture, was the final clash that marked the end of the war known as the Shattering. The last two contending demigods battling for supremacy. The only solid hit that Radahn gets in that video is removing her prosthetic arm. But this doesn't even make her flinch or slow her down the slightest. She just grabs the sword with her other arm and continues to lunge toward Radahn. Going back to in game evidence. There is a lore marker that says the two were at a stalemate, then the scarlet rot blooms. Not "malenia was losing, and then the scarlet rot blooms". With both of them refusing to back down, Malenia decided to take a drastic measure as a last hail mary and unleashed the scarlet rot on to Radahn and Caelid. With the idea that one or the other (or maybe both) would be taken down by it. However, both survived the rot but were both left severely weakened by it. Radahn went mad to the point where he survived like a feral beast. Wandering the wilds until his feet were worn away, and gorging on corpses of friend and foe alike. Malenia was incapacitated to the point of needing to be carried back to the haligtree by one of her knights, and the brother she was fighting for had been kidnapped by mohg while she was away. This is why I said that they both took Ls in this fight. Neither of them came out a victor, and both of them were left in pitiable states. Both Radahn and Malenia were recognized as powerful warriors in their own right. And both had an army of soldiers and knights that admired and respected them. While Radahn may have been dubbed as the mightiest demigod of the shattering, Malenia was an empyrean and radahn wasn't. An empyrean is a demigod who had the potential to replace Marika and establish a new order. Of the known demigods, only Malenia, Micquella, and Ranni were empyreans. And that's something to consider as well. But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the fun of these games is that the players can piece together the gaps in the lore however they like. But some things are specifically and explicitly stated after all. Wow this got really long. Thanks for reading if anybody got to the end here. I clearly really love elden ring and the lore that comes with it.
@@thatkoreankid9 you are a bit right but mostly wrong , her using her nuke wasnt wrong , she was that desperate to win , she used it and it did what it did , all of that is correct , but calling that battle a stalemate is beyond wrong , radahn wiped the floor with her , she knew if she didnt use her aeonia nuke she was going to lose , so she nuked the place in a last attempt at winning or atleast ending it in a tie , which failed considering she literally fainted right after , in a pool of her blood and rot and covered in wounds , radahn couldve finished her but he instead packed up and left out of pity , she wouldve died the most embarrassing death if not for finlay saving her , thats no stalemate she was defeated and she almost died too , would have if not for finaly. Thats where youre wrong. Nobody is calling her weak , its just that radahns stronger , or was back when the battle took place.
@N E C R ഠ "radahn could've finished her but he instead packed up and left out of pity" how are you getting to this conclusion other than your own head canon? There is no piece of information that indicates this is how it went down. Also, radahn didn't just pack up and leave lol. He literally never left Caelid, because he lost his mind after being in the epicenter of the rot explosion. The fact that radahn was still alive for so long is a testament to Radahn's might. As is the fact that Malenia could even go one on one with him despite being blind, missing an arm and a leg (or both legs can't remember exactly). Also, it's not malenia that claims that it was a stalemate. But item descriptions, lore markers, npc dialogue are sources of where we learn about this battle. Nothing says Malenia won or lost. Nothing says Radahn won or lost. Every indicator we have about this battle states that it was a stalemate that ended with both demigods in an unfortunate state. Gideon says that Radahn fought Malenia and her rot to a standstill. Not that he beat her or spared her life. And that he's not what he used to be due to the aftermath of that battle.
@@thatkoreankid9 fromsoft has always made conflicting item descriptions , item descriptions are more so about describing the item and less so the lore of everything around it , as in the narrator whom described the item is about as clueless as we are , and when i say radahn left i dont mean that he straight up left caelid , i mean that he went back to his castle and left the battlefield , most likely out of pity , this could be interpreted by anyone in any way they like because it wasnt stated why so but i personally dont believe it was because of the rot or him being badly hurt , because for one the rot was described of having a slow degradation effect on radahns mind , and only began physically weakening him after losing his mind , so to say that he shrugged off the aeonia nuke at first wouldnt be far from likely to be true , now on the matter of malenia , had she put up more or less of a fight early on wouldnt have mattered honestly because all the way up to her using her nuke there wasnt a clear victor , but right after doing so she fainted and had many wounds that needed treating , it doesnt matter whether radahn left out of pity or out of exhaustion , what matters is that she wouldve died there had nobody intervened , yet finlay saved her from that fate , sure its a tie as in nobody died but in terms of combat malenia was defeated and was left to die. Thats all.
Like it is so telegraphed. Nagakiba comes ahead. That ar of transient and just moonveil wont come ahead unless your oponent just missed with his chunk of cinder
Rivers of Blood's original name is actually terrifying.
屍(Corpse)
山(Mountain)
血(Blood)
河(River)
"Mountains of Corpses, Rivers of Blood"
Oh how did u find the original japanese ?
@@ValentinParkourGaming Ah I live in South Korea. Since CN/KR/JP shares some of chinese characters, I can assume the Chinese characters from Korean version.
btw, amazing video as always!
안녕하세요 ! I hope you are ding well my friend thanks for your comment :)
Holy shit that's edgy and fucking badass
in Chinese version it's "Mountains of Corpses, ocean of Blood"
Agree with Nagakiba. As soon as I got it, my mind was blown with how elegant and fast can you be. No cheap tricks, you learn how to work it around and you can be a beast. Underrated
Yep, ne cheap tricks as u said
duel fire frost nagakiba is a nasty combo with AoW bloodhounds step on one
@@jeremiahjones4605That’s literally what I’m running + Bolt of Gransax and Gravel seal for range. I’m using this build for DLC
So is this based solely off pvp for the nagakiba? Because rivers of blood and moonveil do way more damage to bosses atleast in my time playing the game.
Meteoric blade will forever be my favorite, it’s the closest thing to making gravity magic viable (collapsing stars please get buffed 😭)
Oh can u tell me more about your build ? How are u making it work ? I think it is a really cool weapon ! But I had to be objective
Bro idk about you but I use collapsing stars all the time. I use it to combo moonveil or dark moon r2 and its really good for that.
wth collapsing stars is pretty good
Idk what your smoking but gravity magic is busted
Bro you must be playing elden necklace or something cuz idk wtf your talking about
I personally just love the nagakiba. I never used moonveil much. I can't get over the range of the nagakiba. It is just so much fun to play with.
Its sooo good
I actually use both, Nagakiba on right with frost effect and moonveil on left. It was pretty great!
@@arifsatrionugroho9905that is the best way to play with them aside from Dualing one of them alone.
@@weskintime4177yeah ushi is better for dual
@@hayvanejones8791agreed! i use the nagakiba with the uchigatana (dual wield) and it's disgusting. The moveset is so good and with blood flame blade and flame, grant me strength, it shreds
The thing that made me love moonveil is the design of it, being basically the frayed blade of elden ring.
Yeah it s beautiful
I miss the frayed blade heavy
Same ! I also miss parry on katana it was one of the coolest move to pull of. I also miss Gael greatsword, it was awesome
I love the moonveil man it’s my favourite katana and I’m also in love with the rivers of blood but the amount of toxicity around using both in pvp really turns me off it the amount of hate mail i’ve gotten while using these weapons is crazy so i just switched to bloody helice
@@billyray6210 Don't let them stress you bro. I make Hybrid builds on every Fromsoft Game. Actually every RPG that allows it. I made my Battle Sage long before I knew Moonveil existed and while I've changed my weapons on and off there's no shame in using whatever. Besides, Moonveil is easy to dodge and if they can't that's cause they suck
Moonveil is insane, but the nagakiba just takes the cake for me. So fun to use.
I agree
I think my favorites are either serpantbone or dragonscale, both are really good in terms of visual design but it adds some uniqueness in the katana list, not only giving us a frost lightning infused death machine but a poison debuffer which make a fun and interesting combo when paired.
(Guess I’m a fan if the weaker stuff)
Yes they look fantastic
My only issue with how the DragonBall blade looks is that damn sheath...
@@brookemonshower2756 truuuue
I love weaker things too! Lmao! Last playthrough I did was 95% serpentbone, then started over at the end with the dragonscale. Badass weapons
Gsp doing a katana tier list is something i didnt know i needed
Yes I have decides to recycle myself into gaming ! I am indeed a big fan of Myiazaki !
for real he sounds so similar to gsp
this
For me Moonveil is simply S+ just because of how easy you can get it early. You can even go there at lvl 1 Samurai class and get it right away by defeating the boss, which isn't hard because of how easy it is to memorize it's attack pattern. (might get a few tries). Compared against something like Rivers of Blood or Malenia's Katana.
thanks for the tip
Same thing for nagikiba-you just have to kill kira
If you actually want to be like Musashi, you don't need to powerstance two katanas, but rather use a katana with vakizashi (a dagger that looks like a short katana and powerstances with them). That's what his actual dual wielding technique looked like, and actually Okina pretty much represents Musashi in the game, as he also uses vakizashi in pair with rivers of blood.
Yeah the dual in real life is with a smaller katana, good call
True. All samurai carried a smaller sword along with their katana. It was also used for seppuku if that situation arose
you're telling me that I found the strongest katana in the game in the most random way possible and I didn't even know it, I absolutely have to get to 20 dexterity
Yes you do ! Its true it is dropped after a random boss, it should have been a demi god boss weapon imo
As a Katana user through and through, I really enjoyed your list, and I'd say I'm in agreement with most - maybe toilet tier was a bit harsh for the bone blade 🤣🤣🤣🤣. It needs too much to be a day to day katana, and that's why the Uchi and Naga are my go to. Thier versatility is just bonkers. For PVE I use Uchis and in the arena dual nagas all the way.
Lol yes this is exactly what I told myself after the video was over ^^
Toilet is a bit harsh, but at least it was funny right :)
thanks for your sweet message :)
I like Meteoric the most, but I use it on a strength build and 2H it. It's really easy to roll catch people with the R2 when they're pulled in by the AoW. Srength/Int is one of my more favored setups. I'm a little shocked with Hand of Malenia's rating. The ash of war is pretty bad. I like Sperpentbone because of the R2. It always triggers the damage on successive attack talismans.
yh tbh I think Malenias one at best is only B tier, doesn't deserve to be up with the likes of uchigatana or RoB
ash of war is extremely situational in both pve and gameplay lmao
agree
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@@Rust_BKT Look Who is talking !
I have just stole the intro of PVP skillz, if you look at his videos, mine are pretty much copy pasted form his videos
This tier list series is one of the best sources of weapon info out there! Would love to see you make a tier list of collosal greatswords! They are my favorite weapon type in every darksouls game and now in elden ring!
I am actually working on it as we speak ! Many people have asked for it ! Thanks for your comment Sagit Swag !
@@ValentinParkourGaming that's awesome to hear, I look forward to it! Thank you for the incredible content!
Thanks for watching Sagit
Nagakiba is the GOAT!!!
Half of my first playthrough was with this beast, until I realized that I've always been into the strength heavy build. I thought I could escape DS3 by going dex in Elden Ring, but strength build will always be in my heart.
But I still use the nagakiba from time to time, and infuse it with whatever incantations and ashes of war. It is really fun!
U can still use it on a strength build of u want
Throw flame stroke on it, and lean into the str side
You changed it for what weapon?
To start, I only play PvE myself. I had to do at least one playthrough with a character named Miyamoto Musashi and using two katanas, I believe I used all of them throughout the playthrough at one point, but the Dragonscale and Meteoric Ore blade were two of my favorites. Using the Wakazashi dagger that powerstances with katanas also made the build more interesting.
Thanks for your comment and giving us your experience
@vngxrd GUTS GS with focus on Str/End/Vig. Golden Vow. Flame Grant Me Strength. Lion's Claw Ash of War with Heavy affinity. Blood Flame Incantation. Starscourge Talisman, Radahn Soreseal, or axe talisman. You will make all of Elden Ring your bitch. Easily the strongest build I have made up until mid game. At level 40 you will be stance breaking and killing every boss with a few Lion's Claws or heavy charged attacks. And best of all.. all of this can be acquired within a couple hours of starting a new playthru, along with enough smithing stones to +15 the sword. Simply OP build. Early game put the strength tear and the faith tear in your physick. This will give you the faith needed to cast the incantations and you'll be hitting like a truck. Golden Vow Ash of war is not as good at the incantation but will serve you well placing it on a dagger until later game and it can be acquired very early game along with everything else I have listed.
I did a run with Meteoric Ore Blade recently and was pleasantly surprised.
despite it only having only a "C" scaling in strength it was getting 500 physical damage without buffs on just a basic strength build.
Plus the unique R2 is great at breaking enemy's posture, this weapon destroyed all main game bosses in only 4 hours from a fresh save!
Its not the best katana but I'd say at LEAST B teir.
Yeah maybe B tier , I also had a lot of fun playing with it
I hope to see colossal swords next.
Yep I am working on it as we speak :)
Only correction I have about rivers is that at launch it’s scaling was broken. It wasn’t until it’s scaling was fixed in a later patch (1.0.4 if I’m remembering it right) that it became a monstrous weapon that made people break controllers.
thanks Crimson
@@ValentinParkourGaming your welcome
Would the wakizashi be considered a special mention since it can be used like a katana when paired with one?
Yeah I should have included it into it
TBF, Naruto doesn’t completely rely on the Kurama, he naturally has a massive chakra pool, but yeah Kurama is one of his main powers
Yes of course, Kurama is really the reason why he can compete against Sasuke and everyone else at top level
The serpent bone blade had been my favorite katana since I got it and almost had me change my build during my first play through. It looks almost like a rapier with the intricate guard with an elegant savagery once you see the spines and such in the details if the weapons design. And it feels like a SWORDSMENS weapon, no overpowered ash of war, no dummy long range. Just you, your blade, some poison, and your moveset. I love this weapon
At the end of the day Dragonslayer this list is just my opinion and you should be using what you think is the most fun and cool !
@Valentin Gaming Athlete ofc ofc lol, you just helped me remember a hole in my knowledge. Foreman is tied for my favorite fighter of all time. And the number one guy I would never want to get hit by
I wish they add a odachi in the dlc. Basically Sir Alonne's sword. Would be awesome if it had a unique moveset too
What is odachi ?
@@ValentinParkourGaming ō-dachi is basically a very long katana
I just like how you answer every comment, it's a good and helpful video. Looking forward to more of your reviews after the DLC.
Of course it is the least I can do
Yep, I hope we have many cool weapons in the dlc
He misses a few
These thumbnails are godly, also the uchigatana works great for pure strength builds as it gives you an A scaling on the heavy affinity and has a small dex requirement. loved the video :D
I guess the uchi is really the goat !
Thanks Deep Speed for your comment and watching the video :)
Such a great series. I am personally not into PvP, but this tier list is also great for PvE. Will be waiting for the next video.
I am glad it can also serve my pve brother. Have a great day
What’s pve ?
@@CristianMartinez-pi4coplayer vs environment, basically just Elden ring without duels/versing other real players
Fun fact about the serpent weapons' poison, (the katana, fists, shield), can be strong poison. The game doesn't tell you, but the poison can be more aggressive than standard poison, like an in-between of regular poison and scarlett rot. (Side note: the fists with bleed, paired with a rot weapon is a good snowballing combination)
Yep it is “deadly” poison, thanks for pointing it out you’re awesome
Super impressive video! It was so interesting hearing the background and inspirations for the katanas. I had no idea the power stance moveset was inspired by someone. Very fascinating.
Thanks for watching the video Logan :)
from the intro dialogue to the epic intro-intro video/voiceover to the actual content. this is a quality video. in 2024 you see so much garbage, you really have to appreciate people putting in effort. dude ur good at what you're doing. well done.
Thank u so much man it means a lot. I have got inspired and pretty much copied the style of an old school youtube called PvPSkillz. Since he stopped making content since dark souls 3 I have decided to keep is work
@@ValentinParkourGaming quite admirable. Probably going to inspire someone yourself in the future. And thats the best legacy you can leave behind. Just like he inspired you. Keep it up !
Finally, someone else who agrees that Malenia completely lost to Radahn and only got out alive because she nuked all of Caelid.
That aside, I still think my favorite katana is either the Nagakiba or Serpentbone. Powerstancing is fun with them.
Of course ! I don’t understand how can people think it was a draw
@@ValentinParkourGaming Bro, he literally diced her prosthetics like warm butter, I swear if Malenia didn't use her big flower hacks to nuke an entire country, Radahn wouldn't have been cursed with Giga Aids for the rest of his life, lmao
And he beat her @ss while protecting his horse and while holding the f$king stars !
@@ValentinParkourGaming dont forget that after her last pathetic attempt at winning failed , she fainted and was left to die covered with wounds in a pool of her blood and rot , radahn pretty much left out of pity , if not for finlay saving her she wouldve died the most embarrassing death , whenever i mention any of this on a related video to the subject i get bombarded by weebs crying.
@@ValentinParkourGaming It probably has something to do with the game outright saying as much and the fact that before she ever used the rot she impaled him to the ground like a butterfly. Radahn is the only demigod who has lost to every demigod he's fought (he got his cheeks clapped by Morgott) besides Godrick. Kinda sad ngl.
Yes you are right. Moonveil and nagakiba are the best. Just got my second moonveil so i am dual vielding those because i have int at 80 and i am using sorcery also.
Yep I love moonveil personally
Great video! I like the Moonveil better than the Nagakiba. That ash of war is just ridiculously good at deleting opponents. And the fact that it pisses people off so much is a huge bonus, lol.
Lmao, yes pissing people off is always a win ^^, thanks for watching the video and commenting :)
@@ValentinParkourGaming It really is, lol.
why u wanna be toxic?
Nagakiba>moonveil
@@bbyponk I don’t know, mate, seems like the people getting mad at a weapon in a video game being used are the toxic ones. Laughing at their toxicity seems like a pretty good way to deal with it.
I agree with every single one of these points but I haven't tried the serpentine blade yet and it looks cool!
It is cool, just not very good
What is the ranking based on? Dmg? looks? move set? maybe something else?
Maybe watch the video
@@p1omar I watched, now answer the question
On their PVP viableness, thanks for watching the video :)
@Valentin Gaming Athlete ok that makes sense now because pve wise this tierlist and greatsword tierlist were just rly wrong
Yes it is not a PVE tier List
I adore the Serpentbone blade, but I sadly think you summed it up pretty well. It has a gorgeous design and an amazing heavy and the deadly poison makes it an actually useful weapon, but it cant escape the bottom tiers with its poor build up.
I think it would be an amazing niche if it had even a small bit of arcane scaling to increase the build up.
Uchigatana SAVED MY LIFE when I struggled against Godrick. The bleed effect is what truly makes the weapon, and it can stagger some man sized enemies easily if you land a five hit R1 combo. I was able to get early game souls farming in Caelid because of it, so I was eventually able to completely melt Godrick’s health. 🔥
Not gonna let the malenia slander slide she released the rot because she wanted to put her brother on the throne. It was a sacrifice of everything she was for his dream. Also Rahadahan would have just rebuilt the golden order because he was a Godfrey fan boy. Which kinda makes him the villain of the conflict, still a great character though.
She release the rot because she sucks balls and Radahn was whooping her “@ss while protecting his horse and hpreventing the stars from moving
Nah nah nah he was try to take over and he prevent the stars from moving before the war started because daddy told him to screw over the carion royals. Now I do believe he was stronger then her but she did not release the rot because she was prideful she did it as a sacrifice to defeat the strongest demigod to realize her brother's dream. The lore stats she thought she would die for the cause and everything even her pride and reputation as a warrior was worth that dream. Rahadahan is far more of a I want the status quo to remain type of character. It was a battle of tradition vs change
Yeah but u are talking about morale
I am talking about skills and who is beating the ass of who
Radahn is ripping through her like butter watch the story trailer again buddy.
But if u wanna keep simping for this worthless and skilless b¥tch then all the power to you
L’amour rend aveugle
Cool intro montage, I really loved the quotes from multiple demi gods being used
Thanks a lot for watching the video Yonnash :)
@@ValentinParkourGaming by the way great tier list, I have to say your rankings were on point. Most of my first new game pluses (the first 2 to be exact) were katana builds and I kinda ran the whole game only for katanas. Personally I enjoy the versatility of the nagakiba and its range. Currently on new game +5 with rivers of blood. What's your favorite overall?
why is no one talking ab this mans editing skills?!? ur so entertaining to listen to and watch bro!
Thanks a lot buddy ! I love your profil pic :)
Might be popular opinion but I just fucking love the Rivers of Blood so much. The Ash of War on it is so cool, and even still the weapon just looks sick in general.
Yep it is a super cool weapon, especially if you are a weeb like me !
I actually ended up doing a katana run partly inspired from your tier list that I just finished. Ironically I ended up using the Dragonscale Blade throughout the majority if not the entire run lol. I am honestly starting to think it is a underrated gem.
Like you said in your list, the Dragonscale Blade buffed with it's AoW ends up being one of the hardest hitting katanas of them all and this thing was taking chunks out of boss and player health bars. Combined with a procced frostbite, I don't think people understand just how much damage this blade is capable of dealing. I'd say it can even outperform bleed procs and was very useful against (the few) enemies immune to bleed. It's range can be a bit annoying at times, but even as the second shortest it really isn't much shorter than the golden standard uchi.
I won't deny that the Dragonscale Blade still suffers especially when compared to the gods that are Nagi and Moonveil, but I do feel like Dragonscale Blade isn't getting enough credit either. I'd say it could fit nicely C-B tier. And maybe even A tier when bleed gets its eventual nerf. But that is my take right now. Now time to try Serpentbone Blade :D
Aha I am happy that you found some use to the list for your playthrough
This list os also more geared towards pvp
People: Do Yura's world quest to get Nagakiba
Me who got it by just killing him: 🙂
Yeah u can just kill him I guess ^^
You really make the best weapon reviews out there man.
Thanks a lot Calvin. Chrightt is also making very good weapon review but he is a little less entertaining.
ur Japanese pronunciation is on spot 💯 it makes me appreciate the video and got hooked into it!
a lot of ppl dont really pronounce Japanese names / words properly so thank you!
ty for the guide aswell 👏
Arigato my friend, this is the best compliment I could ever receive. Everytime I say words in another language, I always try my best to respect the culture and pronounce it right :)
@@ValentinParkourGamingkeep it my friend! i immediately noticed it and was amazed great job honestly 👌
See alot of people fail to realize that with rivers of blood the weapon itself didn’t really get a nerf, it was primarily just it’s ash of war. ROB is definitely one the hardest hitting light weapons in the game, I’ve gotten mine to do close to about 800 AR with NO buffs at all, so if you just powerstance two of them and only use the ash of war to roll catch or surprise attack someone it’s arguably one the better weapons and one of the best katanas in the game
Yep it is amazing really but people read nerf and just never use it. So stupid
Just wanted to give you praise for the intro! Elegant editing and hyped up the katanas fairly well!
Thank u very much snoms for the kind words
Nicely edited video!
Love katanas , definitely my fav weapon class. Nagakiba is the GOAT!!
I am happy that you enjoyed it ! thanks for your comment Schnitzel
the Meteoric Ore Blade will always have a special place in my heart because it was my weapon for my first playthrough so weapons like Rivers of blood will never compare to it.
Yep it is always a special bond that is created with the wepaon you beat the game wiht, for me it was bloodhound fang
@@ValentinParkourGaming I haven't beat the game on the save yet because I did the attributes terribly but it carried me through the whole game.
Man your vids are top tier! Super entertaining ro watch! Nice work! Now I ain't a katana guy but Nakakiba is my pick. Although i love my rob swap for the bleed prock.
Thanks a lot Tony, it means a lot coming from you ! I am glad you enjoy them, I put a lot of work and love into them
You are absolutely right.... Nagakiba is the best katana as you find yourself top on combating. 🙏
Personally.... in my 2nd play through I keep Nagakiba on board (ashes of War -double slash with ice build up achived 117 dps and 45 blood build up as well) till end game as well as moonveil in left hand,, smoking enemy top to bottom.
Many thanks.... For your great katana ranking video and your rating is perfect 💯
Wow thanks for the amazing comment and support my friend. You're awesome !
Personally I love the Dragonscale Blade but it is just so bad ^^
I use Nagakiba and Moonveil in both hands. Nagakiba on right hand with Bloodhound Step and Moonveil on left hand. People recognize the Moonveil and expect the skill spamming, and then they see you disappearing all of the sudden and lose their minds. And when they less expect it, you dualhand Moonveil and do a ranged finishing blow with the skill. 10/10 best magic Shinobi experience in Elden Ring.
Serpentbone blade is my favorite katana, I usually poison my enemies, but I do use the single katana. Its R2 is very good, if you catch opponents with it they will be very close of being poisoned. Great video.
Aaaah I didn t know about this technic, thanks for letting me know !
@@ValentinParkourGaming well idk if technique is the word, i just really enjoy the unique r2.
Yeah it looks so cool
What I like is you rank according to pvp. Other channels rank using pve with summons. I play pve solo, and your ranking is closer to mine, because fighting bosses solo requires 2 things pvp needs too - speed and reach. Other channels just rank according to damage because they got a distraction bot
Exactly solo is the best way to play imo. ! Thanks for your message and watching the video !
i find it interesting caelid holds a lot of eastern weapons, the naginata, wakizashi, meteoric ore blade and the moonveil
Now that u mention it, it is very true
Caelid is in the east in lands between - solved
In Patch 1.10 the Katana got a slight boost (maybe not all of them, not sure).
I play exclusively PVE. These tier ratings are always PVP ratings as if that's all that matters.
The Nagakiba is by far the best Katana. I use Incantations to pair with specific enemies (Bloodflame is my favorite) but also use various greases. The range is awesome. It is also perfect for mounted combat because of the range. I use Double Strike for its AOW as I find it proc's Bleed faster (might be my imagination but I also like how it looks and that matters too).
Moonveil is my second favorite. I use it in my main hand about 40% depending on the enemy.
Meteoric Ore Blade definitely has its place as well. Gravitas followed by heavy attack is often the answer to a problem.
The off hand is paired with a katana. Usually Uchigatana but it may vary.
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Ah so what u would say are the S tier Katana in pve ? Nagakiba and Moonveil ? What about River of Blood ?
@@ValentinParkourGaming The Nagakiba is S tier for pve with incantations to fit the occasion. Moonveil also fits the bill but its shorter length makes the difference for me. I like Moonveil for dealing mobs/hoards that risk overwhelming me, the AOW cuts a nice path. Rivers of Blood just isn't the sword it used to be so A tier. Bloodflame on the Nagakiba does more damage I think.
Oh man this tier list was nostalgic, reminds me of the old dark souls 3 weapon comparison bu pvpskills
Yep I am pretty much copying his all style ! I am surprise no one else thought about it
Hand of melania is my favorite :) I just love that it take skill to land attacks in pvp especially with waterfowl dance! In my opinion they probably should’ve made it stronger initially but for what it is I just love it!
Yep u gotta u use what u love the most no matter the ranking
Our favorite.
Another Valentin banger 💯. Great work as always bro ur the best elden ring pvp content creator. Edits are amazing
Thanks a lot this is a super sweet comment ! I am just copying the blueprint of PVP skillz. Thanks again for your super support :)
my favorite ash of war for my katanas are either double slash (depending on how long the blade is) or storm or storm caller
Great choice my friend !
@@ValentinParkourGamingMAKE MORE VIDEOS
Nah. Rivers of Blood is still an easy S tier.
Not only does it have both big importance in design for being super recognizable and is part of ER history for breaking the game with a free EZ mode…
But it also has the elemental play! Use ice and mix with Rivers to proc the explosion over and over again!
I hate that people got an EZ mode… but rivers is so great I even did a playthrough with it back when Arcane scalling didn’t exist!
Also. Moonveil also had a game breaking history of bringing EZ mode.
It used to do INSANE posture damage! So PvE was RIP and PVP was also RIP because the standard magic damage was also higher.
This ranking is based on pvp not pve
I was already using both of those S tier katanas before I watched the video. Love them both
Nagakiba is the washing pole from dark souls 2, washing pole was pretty busted in that game too, along with chaos blade. I wish chaos blade made a reappearence in elden ring
I wish we had the midir katana in Elden RIng :)
I also wish for a katana for revery build, like an arcane dex katana, and a faith dex katana
Whenever i feel like using katanas , i power stance with Moonveil and Nagakiba , Moonveil on main hand for the Vergil cosplay attacks and Nagakiba in off hand for the reach , Already knew they were gonna be S-tier 😂
Yep you knew before watching the video what waere the best katanas
S-Tier: Nagakiba, Moonveil
A-Tier: Rivers of Blood, Dragonscale Blade
B-Tier: Uchigatana, Meteoric Ore Blade, Hand of Malenia
C-Tier: Serpentbone Blade
In my opinion, not the actual video ranking.
I just like the Meteoric Ore Blade which is why I put it in B instead of C.
Ah yes why B for meteoric ore blade ?
Nagakiba with bloody slash , oh man what a high damage rate😮, yeah it does require sacrifice of health from the player but it's worth it
Yeah imo its not worth the self damage
One of my favorite parts of this was your description of Malenia. Glad someone isn’t praising her like everyone normally does
Of course, I believe she is overhyped for no apparent reason. I think people simp for her because she is naked in her 2nd phase
Find your videos really great! Totally funny and informative. Cool cut, super musical accompaniment! Thumbs up!
Thank u so much for your super sweet message
Valentin: "Moonveil doesn't have much lore associated to it."
Vergil: "Foolishness, Valentin... Foolishness."
lmao ^^
I really don't care about the RoB hate, I was always a Sam and Murasama fanboy and I just had to use it. Plus, I was using Nagakiba with double slash until I got it, so I already got used to the moveset.
It was just very overpowered in pvp at launch
I sat fighting that stupid lava wyrm for 6 hours straight trying to get moonveil
There were four seperate occasions where i almost killed the boss but died when it had a sliver of health left
Yeah this boss can be really hard when u are underleveled
We have GOT to get a pole-arm/spear/halberd tier list in the future
I am working on colossal, probably spear will be 2nd !
I love the feel and moveset of the Serpentbone. The slashing is so clean. Simple and effective katana! Just power stance with a bleed katana and you're kicking ass!
Yeah if you like it then use it, you should use what u think is fun, not I think is good
Moonveil makes me feel *Motivated*
And then you should us it ! Motivation is a good thing
I use the fully leveled blood Uchigatana with bloodhound step, and have fun watching the bloody overpowered Mage snipers run for their lives when I close the distance in blinding speed. Then if they crowd over team mates in united combat, bringing out Radahn's greatsword and smash them with starcallers cry. Instant 3 if they are unlucky enough.
Noice strat !
BURY THE LIGHT DEEP WITHIN!
Cast aside, there's no coming hOOOOOOOOOOOOME !!!!
bro dropped the sickest elden ring katana edit and though we wouldnt notice
Hey hey Link thank u so much for your super kind message
nakigiba is so good amazing double slash with blood amazing dragon communion seal and high arc and high dex and become unstoppable!
Ooof that sounds brutal
That has gotta be one of the best intros I've seen 🤯
( edit ) and montage
Thank u so much for the kind words !
The truth is that I would like a katana that allows you to change from ash to have the charged attack of the meteoric katana, that is what I especially love about that katana because it is much easier to break postures with it.
Yep ! Honestly I dont understand why u cnanot change the ash of war on meteoric. If u could it would be a or b tier
I recognize a Berserk fan when I see one. Nice set of songs!
Of course, Berserk changed my life !
I really want to use the moonveil for NG+3 and beyond, but Moonveil falls off due to bosses getting a buff in HP for every new playthrough (stops scaling at NG+7), so I'll stick with rivers of blood and nagakiba.
You can also just use moonveil for fun
Both the dragonkin weapons need passive frost build up and or lightning damage
Yeah Dragon Halberd with the confirm combo on spinning slash is now really good. But dragonscale blade is still pretty trash tbh
Hopefully they drop another katana with destined death on it in the dlc
That would be awesome. Honestly I want any special faith katana really.
I played most of the game with the Nagakiba, expecting to switch once I got Rivers of Blood. After maxing both I’m firmly on the Nagakiba train.
Love the commentary and usage of historic lore in this video 👍🏻
Thanks a lot I try to mix lore with gameplay ! Thank u for your comment !
@ValentinParkourGaming No problem! Glad I found your channel
Your contents are great. Could you make a video about hammers and great hammers as well
@@flaviobenros8923 thank u so much, I plan on making a video on all the weapon class. Its gonna take a while
>The most iconic weapon in Elden Ring
I legitimately thought you were going to talk about the Moonveil at that point.
Aha yes, I meant Malenia being iconic becaus it was one of the 1st caracter we've seen of the game
Congrats man, you have the best tier list, it's very well edited and great info.
Thank u very much for watching it :)
Nagakina power stanced w Melanias blade in off hand… Sweet sweet victory
I can taste it !
Rivers of Blood is my favorite. Looks unique and it's just amazing. I wouldn't change to anything else
Yep it is an amazing wepaon indeed
Haha "Some call their mamma|" I love it! :) Great video , thank you
Hey thanks for watching I am glad u had a good time
"Anti shield just git gud & dodge" "block bad dodge gud"
What ? I don t understand what u mean ?
I wanna say the nagakiba is actually a nodachi, a weapon too many sekiro players know and don't love. Same with for honor players
Ah thanks for the historical precision :)
@@ValentinParkourGaming a man of culture. Truly outstanding. And the nodachi is a truly immaculate weapon indeed
Great video you explained why these are good or bad. Most people just rank them
Of course I have to be thorough in my ranking! Thanks for watching and commenting Alex :)
The nagakiba is a pretty good weapon all around, and so is one of the best weapons in the game. It has very good reach, intrinsic bleed, decent AR, gets access to running R2 poke, gets the fast version of ashes like spinning slash, does very quick attacks when powerstanced. Like if you need a weapon for something, chances are the nagakiba can fulfill that role pretty decently.
I haven't done much pvp at all, but using a dex setup with duel nagakiba, I had a 30 win streak in the colosseum duels.
I also found decent success in using a soft swap hoslow petal whip with hoarfrost stomp, since it would add more range and methods to pressure and deal damage if opponents were playing too passively.
Very good strategy ! thanks for your comment Prashant !
You need to fact check your lore. Radahn and Malenia were locked in stalemate. There was no clear winner in that fight. If anything they both took Ls. Also, the meteoric ore blade is literally made from meteoric ore. Hence the name of the weapon. And it clearly states that in the description. And radahn's swords are stated to be made of black steel. Which he later imbues with his gravity magic that he learned in sellia.
You are right about the meteoric ore blade, but about Malenia you are delusional.
She got beat up ! she was so f%cked that she had to use cheats ( the god of rot ) to not even win. To just end up in a stalemate. This how weak she is, even with the help of god she can't even trully beat him.
Radahn was beating her to a pulp ( look at the story cutscene ), only using his skills ( swords and magic ) while he was protecting his horse and holding the f+cking stars from moving !
Malenia is just a weak *ss b%itch ! and a lier !
@Valentin Gaming Athlete
I don't know why people consider having been cursed with scarlet rot as a benefit or a cheat. Malenia has been rotting from the inside out since the day she was born. This affliction literally made her gradually lose multiple limbs and go blind. And she didn't use it against her enemies whenever. It truly was a last resort that she tried to avoid using and only uses it a couple times in her long life. Saving it for the most desperate of circumstances. This affliction was so horrible that her brother Micquella spent a lot of his time and effort looking for a way to cure Malenia of her rot (and his own curse of eternal childness).
Don't get me wrong. I love Radahn. He is one of my fav bosses both for gameplay and lore. But I think both Radahn and Malenia have fascinating and tragic stories (as is the case with most characters in from soft games). And it's reductive to say that one is drastically superior and the other is a weakling or a cheat. If we follow your argument, that Radahn is way more powerful than Malenia. Then why isn't he able to just obliterate her easily. Now before you say that it was because it was cuz he was also holding back the stars at the same time. Malenia was being held back too. She has been her whole life with the literal rot slowly destroying her body. If Radahn is the easy winner over the two, then why isn't he able to defeat Malenia, a literally disabled, prosthetic wearing, blind, and sick demigod? Maybe Malenia wasn't as weak as you claim she was. I'm not saying that one is better or stronger than the other. I'm just addressing your statement of Radahn is way stronger than Malenia, which I disagree with. Also, you referenced the cinematic trailer of them fighting. That was a very short instance of a much greater and longer battle. It's literally the final moments of their fight before malenia unleashes rot in caelid. Which in the bigger picture, was the final clash that marked the end of the war known as the Shattering. The last two contending demigods battling for supremacy. The only solid hit that Radahn gets in that video is removing her prosthetic arm. But this doesn't even make her flinch or slow her down the slightest. She just grabs the sword with her other arm and continues to lunge toward Radahn.
Going back to in game evidence. There is a lore marker that says the two were at a stalemate, then the scarlet rot blooms. Not "malenia was losing, and then the scarlet rot blooms". With both of them refusing to back down, Malenia decided to take a drastic measure as a last hail mary and unleashed the scarlet rot on to Radahn and Caelid. With the idea that one or the other (or maybe both) would be taken down by it. However, both survived the rot but were both left severely weakened by it. Radahn went mad to the point where he survived like a feral beast. Wandering the wilds until his feet were worn away, and gorging on corpses of friend and foe alike. Malenia was incapacitated to the point of needing to be carried back to the haligtree by one of her knights, and the brother she was fighting for had been kidnapped by mohg while she was away. This is why I said that they both took Ls in this fight. Neither of them came out a victor, and both of them were left in pitiable states.
Both Radahn and Malenia were recognized as powerful warriors in their own right. And both had an army of soldiers and knights that admired and respected them.
While Radahn may have been dubbed as the mightiest demigod of the shattering, Malenia was an empyrean and radahn wasn't. An empyrean is a demigod who had the potential to replace Marika and establish a new order. Of the known demigods, only Malenia, Micquella, and Ranni were empyreans. And that's something to consider as well. But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the fun of these games is that the players can piece together the gaps in the lore however they like. But some things are specifically and explicitly stated after all. Wow this got really long. Thanks for reading if anybody got to the end here. I clearly really love elden ring and the lore that comes with it.
@@thatkoreankid9 you are a bit right but mostly wrong , her using her nuke wasnt wrong , she was that desperate to win , she used it and it did what it did , all of that is correct , but calling that battle a stalemate is beyond wrong , radahn wiped the floor with her , she knew if she didnt use her aeonia nuke she was going to lose , so she nuked the place in a last attempt at winning or atleast ending it in a tie , which failed considering she literally fainted right after , in a pool of her blood and rot and covered in wounds , radahn couldve finished her but he instead packed up and left out of pity , she wouldve died the most embarrassing death if not for finlay saving her , thats no stalemate she was defeated and she almost died too , would have if not for finaly. Thats where youre wrong. Nobody is calling her weak , its just that radahns stronger , or was back when the battle took place.
@N E C R ഠ "radahn could've finished her but he instead packed up and left out of pity" how are you getting to this conclusion other than your own head canon? There is no piece of information that indicates this is how it went down. Also, radahn didn't just pack up and leave lol. He literally never left Caelid, because he lost his mind after being in the epicenter of the rot explosion. The fact that radahn was still alive for so long is a testament to Radahn's might. As is the fact that Malenia could even go one on one with him despite being blind, missing an arm and a leg (or both legs can't remember exactly). Also, it's not malenia that claims that it was a stalemate. But item descriptions, lore markers, npc dialogue are sources of where we learn about this battle.
Nothing says Malenia won or lost. Nothing says Radahn won or lost. Every indicator we have about this battle states that it was a stalemate that ended with both demigods in an unfortunate state. Gideon says that Radahn fought Malenia and her rot to a standstill. Not that he beat her or spared her life. And that he's not what he used to be due to the aftermath of that battle.
@@thatkoreankid9 fromsoft has always made conflicting item descriptions , item descriptions are more so about describing the item and less so the lore of everything around it , as in the narrator whom described the item is about as clueless as we are , and when i say radahn left i dont mean that he straight up left caelid , i mean that he went back to his castle and left the battlefield , most likely out of pity , this could be interpreted by anyone in any way they like because it wasnt stated why so but i personally dont believe it was because of the rot or him being badly hurt , because for one the rot was described of having a slow degradation effect on radahns mind , and only began physically weakening him after losing his mind , so to say that he shrugged off the aeonia nuke at first wouldnt be far from likely to be true , now on the matter of malenia , had she put up more or less of a fight early on wouldnt have mattered honestly because all the way up to her using her nuke there wasnt a clear victor , but right after doing so she fainted and had many wounds that needed treating , it doesnt matter whether radahn left out of pity or out of exhaustion , what matters is that she wouldve died there had nobody intervened , yet finlay saved her from that fate , sure its a tie as in nobody died but in terms of combat malenia was defeated and was left to die. Thats all.
I duel wield both the nagakiba and the moonveil, best combo ever.
Rennala was a breeze at level 30
Ooooof, this dual wielding is brutal my friend, great choice !
Like it is so telegraphed. Nagakiba comes ahead. That ar of transient and just moonveil wont come ahead unless your oponent just missed with his chunk of cinder
I disagree but that's ok :)
I see you are a man of culture as well. I also cosplay as Vergil in Elden Ring with the Moonveil in hand
Ah no I dont do that ^^