How To Grow GIGANTIC Egyptian Wheat!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 20. 08. 2024
- How To Grow GIGANTIC Egyptian Wheat. When planting Egyptian wheat there is steps to take to grow strong stalks so it holds itself together. Egyptian wheat is a great tool to use for screening and dividing food plots. We like using incognito from domain outdoors.
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Every bedding area in my habitat is atop Johnson Grass, Panicum Variety Grass, WIld Rye/ Little Barley, Oats. Fish-on-a-Pole. I've tracked every game trail out here and cleared perfect funnels and food forests all over. All of the natural trail areas without fortification are covered in weeds that match the tone of the deer fun LOL. In my pursuit my property gave me over 25 wild food variety seeds. They grow like wild fire in the native soil. Remember to appreciate earth.
This is great advice. I plant egyptian wheat every year to screen out roads and other plots. I also use it to cover my access to my stands. I pretty much plant it exactly the same here in Pennsylvania as whitetail obsession with great results every year. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with fellow hunters.
Awesome glad to hear. Thereâs so many ways to use it
This is my first year planting egyptian wheat. I think it will help us on our farm. Great video!
Tony great to hear. Keep me posted on your success
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors I live in Tennessee. I planted egyptian wheat first time yhis year after watching your videos. I planted around first week of may. It has gotten incredibly tall and falling over in spots. I think maybe next year i will wait til last part of June. whatcha think? Appreciate your help and advice
Great video sir. Keep up the good work. This will be my first spring to plant Egyptian Wheat.
Thank you appreciate that. Let me know how you make out
Hey man. Today I made a small food/ kill plot because you me showed me how and showed it is possible to make a small plot and get good deer. Thanks man
Awesome congrats. Glad to hear that đ
Informative video for sure!! Thanks for the potassium tip! I started planting mine in mid to late July and it seems to stand longer just what Iâve seen in Indiana
Yea it can if you plant late like that because it doesnât get as tall.
Thanks
Awesome video cant wait to try it out!
Awesome glad to hear
I'm going to try the Egyptian wheat, first time! Will take your advice, I'm sure that it will turn out good. Screening a electric right of way. đ
Very nice let me know how it turns out
I like the new intro music ! Cool!
Thanks
Hi thank you I appreciate your video I recently planted about 600 lineal yards of EW in June Iâm in southern Carolina itâs a new lease I was unable to have time to get soil tested and I also planted this in over a dozen different areas on the property. Once I planted the EW I also put down 10 1010 fertilizer it appeared everything was going OK many areas where growing better than others which is what I expected. After 4 to 6 weeks I had certain areas 4 foot tall and other areas 2 foot tall but all of a sudden around the sixth week after planting all the bases of the EW began to look brown and appeared to be drying after about two more weeks about 50% of it had dried up and two weeks later 90% of what was planted has completely dried up and is laying on the ground. I understand why its grew better in different areas because of the quality of the soil but is that normal after such a long period of time weâre things look great that 90% or more that was planted die. I donât know if itâs even possible that the seed was bad even though it germinated and lasted almost 2 months. If you have any helpful information I certainly appreciate it thank you for your time. Ernest
Hello....did you ever figure this out? I'm dealing with this bad, sandy, acidic SC soil and having some issues with my Domain Incognito planted in June/July that are very similar to yours. I'm wondering if I should hit it with 46-0-0 or some thing balanced like 10-10-10/18-18-18....
I was planning on planting my Egyptian Wheat Memorial Day since I had some free time. With these cool temps here this weekend in the Mid Atlantic, should I hold off another couple weeks or get it in the ground since it will warm up later this week? Thanks for the great informative videos as always.
I held off myself. Iâm planting everything this coming Thursday. You should be good to go after this weekend. You can always look on line to get your dates for your frost date. For instance my home state in Maryland is may the 15th. Thatâs average. I always wait about 1-2 weeks after that date to be safe. You never know
Oh yea EW is great for screening. Here in West Tn I plant first of August and it get around 8ft tall by end of October.
Very nice
I found this to be a very informative video. Do you plant any Sudan grass or Sorghum? What is your procedure for eliminating weeds? Also what is the size of that well-designed plot in this video?
Thanks. The plot was 3 acres total.
I donât usually plant Sudan grass. The mix I use does have some sorghum in it. If itâs a first time plot then Iâll spray glyphosate to kill weeds and then plant. My existing food plots I keep a cover crop in so I donât have bare soil and that keeps me from having to use so much chemicals
awesome video keep up the work!
Thanks a lot appreciate it
Good call on the soil test
Thanks
I grew egyptian wheat this year and it came up great. I fertilized at a month and it took off. It got to about 8-10 foot which is perfect for me. The problem I am seeing is it falls over in a lot of places. It looks healthy. It was planted fairly thick if that makes a difference. I have had to stake it up in some places. Other than trying something like incognito that has a sorgum mixed in with it, I'm not sure what else to do next year. Have you ever seen it do this? I haven't had terrible winds or bad storms to knock it over or anything like that so I'm not sure why is keeps doing it.
Appreciate your Egyptian wheat tutorial very good. But you didnât mention weed control other than you need to keep them out of your Egyptian wheat, so what are the steps you take? Spray prior to putting in the seed makes sense is there anything else? Iâm going to spray and working fertilizer triple 19 on June 1 and then plan to put the Egyptian week seed in and work up the soil on June 2 or third your comments? Thanks, Drew enjoy your shows.
What is the thinnest you would plant a long strip of this ? 8 ft wide ?
Iâm doing a test this year with 4 feet wide which isnât idea I just want to see.
Ideally best is about 8-10 feet wide that way itâs thick enough to hold itself together, and so deer are less likely to walk through it. When itâs not wide enough they have a tendency to walk though it which then defeats the purpose of a screen
Do you til, disc, plant and then cultipack or do you more of a no til weed kill then plant and cultipack???
I disc and drag. Rarely ever cultipack. I donât use week killer hardly at all. I donât practice no till.
When planting, are you broadcasting the seed with a hand spreader or are you using a seed drill of some sort?
Broadcasting
I am going to be planning Egyptian wheat for the first time this year. I need to get multiple soil samples first. Any recommendations cheapest place to get it done at?
You can check with your local ag office sometimes they offer free. Maybe check that first then if not I would just use whitetail institute thereâs is like 14 bucks off Amazon and itâs east to read.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors thank you for your help. I do like your videos. I started CZcams channel less than year ago. It about racing pigeons. I still amazes me that racing Pigeon can make it home from 500 and some miles .
can you harvest the seed and use it to replant ?
how long must the seed be dormant before planting,best way to store the seed.
Waited for farmer to spray field. Planting my screening this weekend. You worried me on frost but also didn't want any of his over spray to kill screen. Oh do you use farmers touch and antler grow together on every spraying of food plots or cut back to nothing on farmers touch as summer progresses
Great video! Have you tried any of your herbicide-free techniques when planting Egyptian wheat? Thanks!
Yes. Usually once they get under control the first year I donât have to use them anymore when planting it. Itâs just the first time on areas that have never been planted before they need to be controlled for best results
Gotcha. Great info. Thank you.
@@michaelanthonyoutdoors anytime
What an invaluable video! Reading some other comments here and not seeing anything about covering the seeds once theyâre spread. Iâm going to use a hand spreader but it says 1â seed depth, do you end up using a lawn roller or anything like that to pack it down into the soil?
No all I do it drag it with a drag harrow
Weâre planting a spring plot mix on our food plots this year. I plan to go in and spray grass out to kill all the grass and weeds except for the chicory and clover thatâs there. If we spray say first-mid May here in Arkansas then plant mid to end of May do you think planting Egyptian wheat where we killed everything will be ok or should we spray again where we are going to plant the strips?
Hi, What seed rate do you use?
Also how do you seed in narrow 10 foot strips neatly? Most hand spreaders throw seeds wider than 10 feet.
Thx.
Hello, itâs usually about 10-12 pounds per acre. Measure the area and do the math according to the size you are planting.
Iâve done it many many times with a hand broadcast spreader or shoulder spreader just go slow. Or I use the firminator but thatâs not needed.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors
Ok thanks...so your are saying with a hand broadcast spreader you can keep a narrow 10-15 foot wide strip? Not sure i can spread that narrow w My spreader (an earthway).
Yes the strips you see from the drone was done broadcasting it with a earth way.
Sometimes Iâll stick a few poles in the ground on both side so I know I stay in between them.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors so 10-15 foot strip letâs say for example a 0.04 acres long how much seed would you use?
@@24-se7enoutdoors3 Ok so just multiply lbs/acre times your acreage. So 15lbs/acre x 1 acre would be a full 15 lbs. for half acre, 15x.5 = 7.5 lbs. for 0.04 acre that would be 0.6 lbs seed.
If you are putting down small amounts of seed, its often best to go buy some uniform plain unsented clay kitty litter as a buffer for your seeder. Mix the small amount of seed in the litter then you can broadcast mush easier in small sections. So you do a test with the kitty litter. Put a known amount of litter in the spreader (say 5 lbs). Set your spreader setting and go walk your seed area. You want the litter to be gone just about at the end of your walk at you specified setting. If you have a lb of litter left, then only put 4 lbs litter in spreader at that specific setting. Then add your small amount of seed and mix well in that 4 lbs. Go walk it again and you will spread your small amount of seed perfectly without having to fiddle w small amount and low spreader settings. Just make sure you seeds are SMALLER than your litter size.
This does work for larger seeds too but you have to use a lot more litter as the spreader setting must be open wide enough to drop the large seeds.
i did 10 foot wide sections at around 12 lbs per acre this year. They grew well, but are not wide enough. You can see through them a bit. I would not do less than 15' wide strips or go with a bit more seed (like 15 to 20 lbs per acre) for thicker but lower stands.
Will it grow in moist soils?.... not standing water but slow draining wetlands. Soil sample ph was 6.8 and very high organic matter( yearly dying native grasses)
Yes I think it will do well. As long as itâs not standing water it should be good to go
what is the best item or plant or brush type to put in for a Barrier between the national forest and my back property line to discourage summer hunters that canât read private property signs I am not going to fence it in I just want a good natural Barrier to detour them and make it harder for them to get through any type of Suggestion would be appreciated
When you plant incognito. What's you're process for planting it from start to finish from tilling and equipment use to fertilizing and herbicide use. It didn't have very good directions on the container. Thanks
It would be the same process with planting anything.
1. Soil test
2. Add correct amount of lime ASAP
3. If itâs brand new spot I always spray glyphosate and 2-4d wait 2 weeks and disc it all up.
4. Smooth it out with a drag and then fertilize
5. Drag the fertilizer in.
6. Plant your incognito and either drag that in or you can cultipac it
7. Pray for rain lol.
Great advice except for phosphorus doesn't move much through the soil and potassium does it very slowly so you might as well skip the triple 19 on the second and third application and just use urea.
Thatâs correct. But most people arenât doing soil samples so adding it wonât hurt anything. Also triple 19 is Easier to find. The extra phosphorus wonât hurt a thing. To keep it simple for most people this is what I recommend.
How do you get rid of all the dead Egyptian wheat the following spring? Do you have to remove it or just disk it under? Thanks I love your videos!
Thank you. You can either just mow it in spring time then disc back in and it will decompose. Good organic matter
I didn't use fertilizer last year try it this year for sure I did lime let me ask you this do you find a problem with doing it in the same location or is it good to go for a couple years long as you keep the pH in fertilization right
Itâs best to kinda rotate every few years. If you really keep up with the fertility you will probably be ok.
Hey I'm new to the food plot game recently bought a farm in Kentucky 147ac struggling with where to start. Been hunting since I've been 8 but never had my own spot. What is a good way to connect to pick your brain for some info. Videos are great been watching you for two years.
Thank you. I have tons of free videos on the channel for you to watch. If you want more personal help I offer a channel membership on here as well you can join.
Or if you wanted in person consulting you can shoot me a email. Links in the description of all my
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I'm this video how large is thus food plot?
Also how much egyptain wheat did you use? How wide?
3 acre field broken up in about 1 acre strips with about 10-15 foot wide strips of EW. EW is 11 pounds per acre. So you will have to do the match on how wide times how long to get your square footage.
should the seeds be soaked prior to planting?
Nope
How do you prep the seed bed and what is the recommended depth?
Thanks
I disc the soil drag it plant and drag again. As long as itâs slightly covered itâs good to go
Dave when you say 50 lbs of triple 19 fertilizer is that one 50 lbs of fertilizer or actually 50lbs of triple 19 fertilizer thanks for another grate info video.
Sorry itâs 1 bag of triple 19 50 lbs
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Thanksan no problem they don't sell triple 19 down here in the south what other blend would be close to triple 19! All we can buy here is triple 10 triple 13 and 34-0-0
Just use triple 13 and use more of it.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors ok thanks so much Dave! Hope you have a great week!
Whatâs your go to herbicide for weed control in EW?
Never needed to use herbicide in EW before. Hardly use it on any of my plots. Normally if itâs a first time planting Iâll spray with gly. After that itâs usually never needed when you do what you can not to have bare soil.
Do you ever have issues with turkeys or birds eating you're seed you plant? I planted egyptian wheat and found turkey scratches shortly after all over field. Not sure if that's impacting my germination
Yea all the time. Hate it lol.
Couple things. Use a couple more pounds of seed per acre make sure to cover the seed up and pack it. A trick is to buy those party spinners that are reflective. Turkeys donât like to see them they should stay away
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors thanks. It's been a pain in the ass to get screening to grow this year. Not sure why. First it was a weed problem so I replanted and now nothing is germinating and I see turkey sign all over with scratches all across the areas I planted the sorghum/egyptian wheat. Lol
Hello, I planted Domain Incognito back in July and it's doing....meh. It's looking kind of yellow, which is no surprise in the sandy, acidic SC soil. Wondering if I should hit it with 46-0-0, or something like 10-10-10/18-18-18??
Usually that happens when you have lack of nitrogen, water, or potassium. Depending what state you are in it may be a little to late to try and save it. Triple 18 would be best but Iâm not saying it will help due to being so late in the season. 50/50 chance
@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors ok. I know water isn't the issue because actually been getting quite a bit of rain in SC. It's hard because I live in FL and can't get to the farm regularly. It's still pretty warm, I have to go back in a few days so I'll hit it with the triple 18 and hope for the best....đŹđŹđŹ
@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors I just realized I have a little 10-10-10 left. Can that go out with triple 18, or should i not? This is just for regular plot planting....some cereal grains and clover...
What chemicals can you use? Planting for the first time this year following cereal rye.
Your information is very helpful. Thanks!
Is the incognito seed coated and protected from herbicides such as simazine or roundup? Will the roundup or simazine kill or hurt seed if it touches it?
You may want to contact mike from domain about that. I donât use a lot of chemicals. Roundup wonât hurt bare seeds not sure about the simazine.
Question: Iâd like to plant this for waterfowl habitat to screen it from our dirt road. It gets bone dry in the summer, so while willow trees would be my preferred method, Egyptian wheat do sounds like a great substitute. Is it okay if 6inches of water get on it? Additionally, what is the lbs. per acre rate for a broadcasted application? Thank you from central California!!!
Hey so itâs about 10-13 pounds per acre. And no I donât think having standing water would be good.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors thank you!!!
What are you doing to get incognito to grow fast if you get the seed in the ground late? Trying to get mine to grow to max height by Oct and I planted mine a couple weeks ago.its finally germinating after rain.
Youâll have to hit it with triple 19 around the 30 day mark ans again at 60 when plant leaves are dry before a rain
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors is triple 19 better than liquid npk?
@@fueledtohunt2173 the liquid is Instant and the granular is a little slower and may not all be used. Each has there place. I use it in balance. If you can do both I would do that. If not then use the liquid.
I am STRUGGLING getting this incognito to sprout. Soil temps are 65 degrees, soil test has been done and soil is corrected. Iâm at a loss.
How long has it been? Had rain? Iâve planted it dozens of times should be up about 2 inches within 5 days if you have moisture
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors planted April 20th. Tried a no-till method but ensured good seed to soil contact using mower tires. Was dry for about 4 days until I watered it myself. (Weathermen and Politicians are the only jobs you can have where you can lie all day and still be employed).
Got 4 days of light rain coming starting this evening.
Late April is a bit early for sorghum in this area but the conditions were rightâŠ. Or so I thought.
How do you assure the egyptian wheat seed isn't getting buried too deep when you plant it? What's you're process?
Itâs not really a concern. I disc the ground smooth it out and broadcast seed then drag it again
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors do you overseed?
@@fueledtohunt2173 most times a smidge. Especially if I have a lot of turkeys
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors thanks. Those dang turkeys. Do you ever have to replant bc of turkeys?
@@fueledtohunt2173 sometimes yes usually if you have clover around they wonât mess with what your planting
New to the channel and I'm sure you've said it another videos but how many pounds per acre
11 per acre
Is there some type of Egyptian wheat that you would suggest over others for a place like Southwest Washington
So what is the correct broadcasting rate per acre. I m doing a 350ft and 250ft linear length. At 10ft wide. Total 6000sf so that's .138 of an acre. So At 10lbs per acre I m only putting down 1.38lbs? That just doesn't sound like enough. I've seen sugestions of 7lbs per acre to 25lbs per acre when broadcasting not drilling.
The correct seeding rate is about 10-13 pounds per acre. I always round up a extra pound or 2 to compensate for Birds and turkeys eating seed. Some wonât germinate, some get covered to deep etc etc etc. at that size I would do about 2 lbs. if itâs to much it will be very very short and wonât amount to anything.
Whats the advantage over using switchgrass
Depends on what your using it for. Switch grass it hard to get established and itâs a perennial so itâs a more permanent solution. EW is a annual. I plant EW more because I can always change my food plot designs. If I needed to permanently block a road way or something like that then I would use switch grass.
This would be perfect if it wasn't annual. Hate replanting every year.
Yes itâs not for every situation
Is there a herbicide useful for egyptian wheat?
Do you use a drill to plant
No I donât.
Do I need to spray with 24d before planting egyptian wheat or sorghum? Will it still grow well without 24d?
Chemicals arenât needed 100 percent of the time they are way overused. No one knows except you. If itâs a brand new plot then yeah use chemicals for a burn down and then plant. If itâs a existing plot and your using cover crops and planting the right things then no most likely chemicals wonât be needed!
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors there's a few weeds but there was hybrid sorghum and egyptian wheat there that laid on the ground until shortly before I planted that acted as mulch. A few things of native grass popping through but for the most part pretty weed free so I treated it with Roundup and simazine and there's a few weeds here and there but pretty sparse. Hopefully the egyptian wheat and sorghum is pretty aggressive against weed competition. Can you spray 24d over the sorghum and egyptian after it starts growing to control broadleafd or will it kill it?
Iâm not a chemical fan I grow stuff not kill it lol.
But Iâm pretty sure you would have to use 2-4DB donât quote me on that tho.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors how do you grow you're egyptian wheat then without herbicides?
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors I hate chemicals but I don't know any other way lol
Is it round up tolerant
No
Is Egyptian wheat a perineal?
No itâs a annual.
Do you use simazine after planting and is it necessary?
Nope never use it. Not needed for this
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors that good. I like that. Less chemicals the better. What's you're favorite atv sprayer? Got a fimco and not very fond of it? Want something that sprays more heavy so it drops better to the ground on breezy days
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors can you spray 24d again after planting and fertilizing if poison ivy or broadleaves are still coming up?
I was never happy with any sprayer I ever bought. I started building my own and using boominator nozzles on my tank setups. They spray the best Iâve seen. You can order the nozzles on line and just build a header from CPVC
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors thanks. Do you have a link for where to get them?
My deer eat it all down. ! đ€Ș
They ate EW? Never seen a deer eat it. They must be starving lol
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@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors maybe not but the plots are smokin hot
It's called STUNT, not SHUNT.
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Ok