It’s Corny, but “Curb Cruising” Turns Dangerous Drops Into Fun Features Forever [4 beginner drills]
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Mountain Biking Drops are hard. This video won't magically make them safer, but you'd be downright dumb to skip these drills because they're so easy and transfer directly to the harder stuff.
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00:00 - Start
01:56 - Pre-Homework for Drops: Roll Down While Standing
03:43 - Phase 1: Basic Roll Down Curb Cruising Style
05:21 - Curb Cruising For Drop Dominance #2: Wheel Lift to Float
07:28 - Curb Cruising for a Bruising: How to Lunge/Punch/Mini-Manual for Drops
09:33 - Curb Cruising COMBO: Standing Spring + Punch (sounds like Karate)
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Yeah that is so true, your analytic mind and engineer background is a plus to easily demonstrate what people needs to do. I wished i had those videos when i started mountain biking 25 years ago. I stopped one time one the old container in Whistler, did a massive manual with no speed to clear the drop and i made it. Nowadays i need to do tricks like table top or whips to clear jumps or drops.
Another great video again! 🥳
The push and/or the bounce. Bounce is bit easier for desk jockeys like me! I typically do a pre bounce just to get moving but it needs a bit of runway. Thanks for this 😊
Ahhh I see. You’re an engineer! Now I know why you’re so good at your in depth analyses!
Lots of other disciplines taught me to analyze. Also was a performance coach for entrepreneurs.
Thank you explaining drops , love your content
Learned a lot here, thanks
Your info has helped so many small things click for me. thank you!
Also, that's a dope bike you have in the background
Thanks it was really hard to find - had to buy it used and it's got a dent but I love it!
I've heard the same comment from my wife..'Aren't you too old for this?' :-) Good video so Thanks man!
That image with the red Hot S front tire!! I remember a time when those were a highly desired tire for trials. Damn, times were so good!!
borrowed it from a kind buddy, such a fun bike setup
@@mountainbikeacademy I had them on my trials bike in years past! With the air pressure at trialsin levels, the tires would conform to a surface and hold like a fly on flypaper! Heard the typical you need to pump up your tires from folks that had never done trials soooo many times. Loved the fact that that tire provided stupid amounts of grip and traction. If only I could find a stash of them for my KOXX Red Sky!!
i like the idea "combine of the two move", first time i hear that, i'll try it. Hope you can tell us more about it later. Thanks so much👍👍👍
No wise words or insight from my side, just thanks and well done for another great guide for coaching and technique, Very good.
After a nasty collarbone break I realized just blasting over a drop and hoping for the best doesn't work!!! it can be more dangerous than too slow.
STOMP The DROP! Very similar to stand up to the jump which was life-changing standing up to the drop but then stopping or bouncing allows you to control those two wheels to get them to land together ...
Superb!
He got this one right on👍
Seems many big drops are a little more complicated than a simple curb drop but it is definitely the best place to start and where I practice! But don’t ya gotta match the landing ideally and sometimes clear a gap of some sort? Practicing the gap is easy enough on a curb for sure, just make a line past the curb to clear. Matching the landing is trickier to practice on a typical curb since they are usually huck to flat. I think learning to absorb the impact of higher drops would also be a factor, stuff you cover in other videos I am sure, but in combination with landing on declines, they are more daunting than a simple curb drop. I realize now that landing on a decline is ideal and I am getting used to it. I was nervous about it even on smaller drops compared to some larger huck to flats or close that I normally would ride, until recently, when I started practicing on a green jump line and learning to match the landings some. Mostly mental blocks I suppose.
Match landing - YES
clear gaps/stuff - YES
IMO if you CAN'T match the landing on a curb, how are you supposed to REALLY have full control on a bigger drop?
But no you're totally right, there's definitely more to big drops
I am an engineer (in training) who just figured out how to manual off drops last week. Great time for this video to pop up lol
That's awesome!
Great content ! I'm struggling to teach it to my wife this skill and I think that standing off the bike would help to get the muscle memory. By the way, don't you think that the last technique is easier to timing ? I found that there's many movements to get the bike off the ground, and the bike speed variation requires that you start this movements on different distances of the curb, what makes it more complicated to get the timing right. The last one seems to be easier, because it's "just one". Thoughts ?
Depends on your style IMO. If you have high body awareness, the combo is a very intuitive one. The other two are maybe a bit more "practiced" / "precise". Standing spring is more timing and not doing too much (It's all legs) and the punch/lunge requires a bit more movement/athleticism.
Excellent video as usual. But i dont think your punch technique is the same as mini manual. It is the same movement, but done at the different time (and with different intensity as you need to lift the wheel). Mini-manual happens before front tire leaves the edge and it needs to be more pronounced (so you need to push with your legs as well) so that the wheel gets up and stays up (until the rear wheel leaves the edge). As a result, your COG gets behind the BB and you need to get back to the center during the flight).
Your punch technique happens after the front tire leaves the edge - no leg pushing (and due to front tire falling, your handlebar push pushes the bike partially downward - so you are not getting your COG behind BB). The bike rotation is stopped by the bike reaching the end of hand range of motion (conserving angular momentum, your weight being 6x the weight of the bike, the angular velocity after hands stop the bike is roughly 1/7th of the bikes original angular velocity - maybe even less as bike's COG is closer to the BB than rider's COG).
"An than your wife..." You know where the real pain comes from 😊 Great video and instruction!
LOL yep
Can you do a video on “How to ride long decent” for example when I go to Pisgah I have to get off my bike a few times bc the downhill are so long which is fun but I feel like my legs are giving out and I can’t enjoy it as much. New subscriber here so if you already did a video on this can you link it
Actually a really good idea
I may have to go out there and film it myself lol I ride Pisgah occasionally.
Go ride some chairlifts at big resorts. That’s the best way to get better at DH
Big Sky in Montana is good one for really long rides. I take breaks going DH just as often as going up hill.
Wife says you're a grown man...
Just quit biking 😂
My local 12 ft rock drop has a very deep compression, people who try to manny into it usually slam the bottom, you really have to hug the wall... Not always obvious if you're not towed it 😂
love those G outs
I know other instructors criticize the "push" method and say instead you should be moving your hips back. Might be true, but it might just be a matter of emphasis; either way, your body is moving back behind the cranks and your arms are straightening.
The move hips back method is equally valid - all else equal I think it comes down to discerning the person you’re sharing the method with
Plus determining how intuitive the rider is
Moving hips back works well for intuitive riders imho.
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Core strength. Weight bias. Limber. There are some elements. Not so much athleticism as it is a partnership, rider and bike. Both parties are a team. If... If only they work as one!
you are funny man
Thanks maaan
And then everything falls apart. Always blame the wife when it comes to telling the boys 😂
funny chain reaction of doom
It's NEVER happened to me, promise
@@mountainbikeacademy never ever!
but that's 3 different methods is there one that will work for everything. slow, fast, speed. shorter or higher, drops. steep of flat landings, its so confusing.
Yeah that's not the point - have you gone out to a curb and tried all 3 yet?
If you try all 3 and land them consistently, you will have achieved a level of body control that will result in control on bigger jumps.
I NEVER think about which technique to do when riding. I just ride. Because I've practiced on a bunch of curbs/small drops then took it to bigger stuff.
The "violent" part might be a bit strong and get some people in trouble.
yeah good point
this is why people need to get a coach lol
Pushing bike away WILL end up with you back wheel to arse and over the bars
It can if you load the slingshot (I think Rich drew coined the delicious term) which I’m not suggesting :)
Would love a 30 second cut of this.
This is a pretty poor technique to dropping that could easily get you into serious trouble. You are basically relaying on building potential energy into the suspension of the bike, allowing it to spring back at a very precise moment in time. Once you have preloaded, as you demonstrated, you are essentially a passenger on the bike with little options to control yourself once you are leaving the feature. You can clearly see at 9:44, that your rear wheel has left the drop way before the end and ends up falling back down hitting the drop before clearing it. Had you done this on a larger drop you would be absolutely going OTB. Additionally you are effectively making the drop larger than it is as you are creating upwards momentum. You seem to criticize the "lunge" for timing, yet the timing window for success is much more forgiving.
LOL that one at 9:44 was on a 6" drop and I got bumped up in the air. Good catch...but that was just bad / funky execution on my part.
This technique is curriculum for instructors...and I disagree saying it's a bad one. On the other hand, if YOU don't like it, and you have something else that works for you, totally cool. In fact, very cool!
And I do both techniques...this one is much easier to adjust midair because there is an equilibrium. The bike doesn't pull you down. If you lunge / punch and mess up, you not only have to adjust but also have to deal with the extra movement.
However.. I do agree the timing window for success with the "lunge" is definitely more forgiving, especially on slower drops! So props for noticing that.
I've been riding *almost* 20 years and I've never crashed on a drop. I don't mean to brag whatsoever, it's just that I've done a variety of techniques and they all seem to work. Actually...I take that back I've crashed going over a drop once but I was riding a manual across the bridge before the drop. So that's why I crashed lol.
Anyways, good comment and thanks for putting up your thoughts!
It’s great to see real MTB videos everyone is switching to E-bikes. It’s kinda sad
I don’t really mind either way. The principles are the same. True freeride will never die imho
Only people without e-Bikes say things like this
@@EMTB17 so are you cool with me riding my dirtbike on your trails?
@@quinncolbyA class 1 ebike is NOT a dirtbike…. but you know that already….
@@jeanbellemare1903 it’s not a MTB either they are getting closer to dirt bikes every year
yea this is the wrong technique go with a hip shift and save your spine.
What is a hip shift?
Drops suck. Lets see how hard we can slam into the ground and f up our wheels and frames. Boring
I mean...I disagree drops are really fun?
there 2 fellers i listen to , Ryan Leech and you.
but tbh though this standing spring was sooo difficult for me to get balanced and timed right , untill i discovered the trick , that is almost all legs and very very little hands involved 🫡
Ryan is a legend we used to pretend to be a tenth as good as him in trials lol.