How Sudan has become the world's 'forgotten war' | BBC News
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- It’s been eight months since the start of the civil war in Sudan which has seen fighting between the Sudanese army and the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces.
More than 12,000 people have died so far with many more injured.
On Monday, the Rapid Support Forces said they had entered the major city of Wad Madani - an area that is home to 86,000 displaced people who had fled the violence in the capital, Khartoum.
BBC News’s Analysis Editor Ros Atkins has looked into the latest developments of the conflict.
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Title should be "The war the media ignored".
Yet here media is reporting it. Your beef is with the pleb.
Africa for the Africans, sort it out yourself
i mean if media reports every war thats currently going on it would take forever
The title should be "African nation does what African nations do: civil war"
Still yet to see thousands of people march in the streets, though. Same thing with Syria and the many other conflicts in Africa that get ignored by the masses.@@blurgle9185
My condolences to all the people and families affected by these diabolical and horrible events
surprised they aren't pretending its whites doing it...urghhh
There are 32 ongoing wars, but in social media. There are only two wars... Israel and palestine, already forgotten about Ukraine and the rest of the ongoing wars😢
Ukraine bought themselves this matter to worsen. The West will always ditch you to the biggest bidder, Israel doesn't beg for aid, and they're part of EU+ they have money unlike Ukraine.
It's hard to care about 32 wars at the same time. We all have lives and jobs we need to care about too. I think you can only specialize on a few at a time. I personally care more about Gaza (because of the long-term consequences), and the Congo (because of the political situation) than the others.
Thats 1 war
Lmfaoooo
@@ChidubemEgwimTrue, but it's shameful the media and international community aren't doing more to shed the spotlight on lesser known conflicts, especially since the reason is pretty much just because those aren't directly tied to American and European politics.
Because the Jews are not in the equation
My neighbour who was in the military, SANDF(South African National Defence Force) once showed me the videos he recorded of what was happening when he was in Sudan. He showed me that people killed where they were; were buried at those remote areas. This was maybe in 2007-2010 I think. It was the most heartbreaking thing I had ever seen. You die here they don't have time to inform the family; you are buried where you died. So they walked with shovels where they were and they don't dig 6 feet under but just to cover your body that's all. Every time I hear of Sudan I remember him, may he RiP, he passed away in 2021 February in his sleep; in his home. I hope Sudan finds peace, it has been years now.
As a Sudanese person this breaks my heart. To me no country will ever feel like home. It feels as though my identity has been robbed from me right from under my feet. Inshallah I hope one day I can go back.
You @Salsa are a Sudan Arab Muslim who helped the genocide of the 1987-2005 that caused 2 million Christian dead and native Africans.
The current generals who are Muslim are fighting against each other to try and claim land in South Sudan.
Why the fuck are the civilians unarmed. Of coarse this is gonna happen to you. Level the fuck up.
brother where can i get more information on the war i want to learn whats happening?
BBC will not report, the part that Israel is inciting war in Sudan. Biden administration arm transger to Israel, will end up in Africa. Israel x armies are arming both sides, and the victims are the civilians. Both Biden and Benjamin Netaniyahu are installing military government all over Africa. The dictators are picked by design
@@Abu-qitt2 leaders, one of military and the other of paramilitary, has conflict with each other and are now fighting each other. They are trying to show who has more power. Such disgraces to my country.
Ros Atkins is literally the only BBC journalist who gets my attention. Seems to be the only BBC journalist that highlights interesting, important and lesser known matters.
The only proper journalist on the bbc
I think his presentation style is super great.
you can like the way he delivers stuff, but he is still just another BBC reporter, I don't see what you see.
Sudan has seen a surge in exposure on social media for at least a week now.
@@aminmohamed520 do reckon this is because he still aligns with the core values of Western media?
@@achus1103 i don't understand whether his personal views are relevant. If they do allign, and I agree with you that they probably do, than it's just more convenient for him, but at the end of the day he is paid to read the news not write it
I’m sorry Sudanese people 😭😭😭
Same here... And also the poor Sugondese too... 😭
As a Ugandan, I pray for peace and love to all peace loving Sudanese. May peace return to our African brothers and sisters
Sudan is filled with people who think they're Arabs trying to wipe out black Africans.
My family in sudan was living over there, in the midst of war in the "safety" of their homes, one night, my aunt texted my mother with news enough to give someone a heart attack, she sent us panicked voice messages, telling us "the sudanese forces are in our house!" they robbed them, beat my grandpa and uncle, took their things, and kidnapped my uncle. It has been a month already and we haven't heard anything from him, we don't even know if he is dead or alive. Please pray for us that he comes back and they show mercy to my poor, 19 year old uncle, who was like a brother to me for my whole life.
I am praying for your family.
Fellow Africans, the lesson is clear, it's time we take the destiny of our mother land in our hands. The rest of the world does not seem to care about our problems. Cry my beloved continent😢
no more White saviors
Dear sir could you please elaborate what is happening in sudan and in whose hands is Africa who's controlling it?
@johnyr7654 Two selfish factions are fighting for power at the expense of innocent people. The world has turned a blind eye. Therefore, am calling upon the African Union and other local organisations to intervene more aggressively.
Sadly our (African Brothers) seems to be feeding the conflict more like in case of Kenya sheltering the political sect of RFS and their leadership , Chad giving them routes to reinforce and logistically support their troops etc....many neighboring countries around sudan got bought by UAE to reck havoc in Sudan but trust me if Sudan fell in the hands of this Militia there's no stopping for them..
@@Hunter-ej4fv very sad indeed
Free Sudan!! ✊️✊️😭
from whom? there are no goods guys
From who? They all bad
What do you mean?? Sudan is free.
@@vitkomusic6624 he meant in a Free Palestine sense
So the UN can not call for ceasefire? Wonderful
The UN doesn't call for a ceasefire in Sudan, and "peace" activists on our streets do not call for a ceasefire in Sudan, Syria, or Yemen. There are no propaganda masterpieces about innocent Sudanese children on BBC and CNN. Wars between Muslims are not their concern. All they worry about is that Israel might eliminate Hamas.
No Jews involved
Africa we are on our own in this world, I feel the sadness 😢and the hate that you feel, am so sorry for what you are going through
Sub-Saharan Africa or Africa by your mean? The situation is also deeply an issue for many Arab countries.
@@ourmonarchy326Africa is black. Arabs are invaders, as this war is proving
Dear africans fight because they are not left alone.
May GOD have mercy upon Sudan...
♥️
Ameen ❤
You are absolutely correct Mr journalist ,
The Sudanese civil war is the forgotten one no media coverage after the war broken in the middle east ( Israel and Palestine),
Theses Arab league membership nations why aren’t you voicing for the Sudanese civilians as you are voicing for the Palestine’s ..
I know the Sudanese very well 👌
I was touring through kahrtum along the stream of Nile river + visiting the Nubian pyramid civilisation sites .
These tribes own guns and are used to blood shed even at a slightest provocation like if they have come to borrow salt from you n you deny them..... I wouldn't want to be associated with them. They are extremely angry humans much worse than the wild animals. Honestly I don't see anything that can unite extremists bafoons who are controlled by anger.
Because it is called Arab hypocrisy. Since when are Arabs united?
This current war are between Arab Sudanese who committed genocide to 2 million Christian and native Africans
This is a Arab war. Very Demonic
BBC will not report, the part that Israel is inciting war in Sudan. Biden administration arm transger to Israel, will end up in Africa. Israel x armies are arming both sides, and the victims are the civilians. Both Biden and Benjamin Netaniyahu are installing military government all over Africa. The dictators are picked by design
We need more publicity about these forgotten wars, Yemen, Sudan, ciongo. so they are also made a priority in talks between worlds governments and solutions are found.. Public pressures. government pressures, media pressures, economic pressures maybe hopefully peace at some time soon.....
Why don't you add somaliland
This isn't just happening in darfur.. It's happening in alllllll Sudan..
Thanks for BBC to covering this story.
Then there’s the war in Ethiopian, Amhara, that the media never talks about. Sad world.
plz help us we are suffering here, We were displaced from place to another now we don't have place to go , god help us to end this ware
This is one of the saddest things I’ve witnessed
Dictator creates private mercenary force to keep himself in power. Mercenary force carries out coup. Now where have I heard that before?
Except this happened before Russia.
So sad Sudanese people are truly the kindest people you can meet. It's sad that african leaders are so power hungry that they would cause all this destruction. We pray for you people of Sudan 😢
I left Sudan three years ago to head to Libya now I’m in Europe. They gave me refugee status. My people you should come to Europe they will give you refugee status.
The United States of America
Finally BBC talks about this war also important 🙄. And also there is a war in Congo.
And how the war in conga is about to spill into Rwanda.
Where does that leave the UK's immigration policy.
@@TheWebstaff the presidential candidate favourite to win promised he would declare a war on rwanda if relected, interesting
@@TheWebstaffgood send the army of fighting aged men .
Peaceful direct action, when done as part of a strategy, is effective in exposing complicity, raising public awareness, and embarrassing corporations and governments.
Campaign building requires planning, media work, coalition building, strategic crafting of messages, and a division of labor between individuals and organizations based on their strengths and their contacts.
Hypocritesy Muslims they're all muted about sudan situation
Because they're behind it
There's Muslim charities feeding the poor/oppressed in Sudan , ordinary Muslims aren't doing this ,blame the corrupt Emirates rulers who fund theses militias, they ignore Ghaza genocide and just put out a statement pretending to care ,and completely ignore Sudanese people, these rulers are evil , pretending to be real Muslims
They are also mute about yemen war, because there is no Jews to blame for it.
They don't even really care about Palestine just hating Israel
they also gave token vocal support for the Rohingya in Myanmar
So many prayers. So little soloutions.
Darfur is the real open air prison NOT Gaza
To clarify that all Sudan is suffering not Darfur only, Sudan is not confined in Darfur and if that is the prevailing thinking, it shows ignorance of the background of things.
🙏🏾
thanks so much like it
Why don't we see massive protests for this? 🤔
Protest who?
These Muslims are not fashionable to support.
America started this war by training and funding rebel groups in Sudan remove there current government, Putting an American puppet in charge leading to this war. So most of news for this country is hidden in Europe and America by there government
Why would you?
Don't be dense. It's a war in Africa. What I'm more surprised at is that Sudan was called a 'functioning state' prior to the civil war, that was news to me. People wanting to be all high and mighty, well find out what charities are working there and donate, don't just pretend to be morally superior by shouting at other people doing nothing - act yourself, then. Do you want taxpayer money to go to Sudan? Ask your MP. Do you want to fight and die for a country that has been unstable for decades, join up and lobby for armed forces to go there. The self-righteousness is beyond me.
Thankfully for BBC to posted this events and may God fix our country
Such a shame
UAE has to answer for their support of RSF and the atrocious they've committed. Shame on UAE, their greed for Sudanese gold mines is unfathomable, do they not have enough petro dollars?
No protests against the UK government for this. There should be protests telling us to use our influence and stop the UAE supporting the RSF. But Muslims only care about certain other Muslims, and especially not black Muslims.
The "peace" activists on our streets do not call for a ceasefire in Sudan, Syria, or Yemen. There are no propaganda masterpieces about innocent Sudanese children on BBC and CNN. Wars between Muslims are not their concern. All they worry about is that Israel might eliminate Hamas.
A lot of Black Muslims still don’t understand that the “Ummah” doesn’t care about them.
Fact 👌
The hose Muslims you talked about are not protesting because they care about a certain group of Muslims but because they hate Jews.
Absolutely right. Exactly like the White/European/Westerners care ONLY about the White/European/Westerners unlike the rest of the world.
Why do people keep killing people like this…this so heart wrenching to watch, I am scared to even imagine the pain faced by those affected
God decided everything.
I’ve not heard anyone say “ceasefire now”
Muslims don’t care about each other.
Only when Israel is involved
wish them safe
i just want to tell everyone don't worry, sudan might be mostly forgotten by large parts of the world... but to me, you are exactly as important as Ukraine, israel,anyone.... to me,five minutes after I've heard of any of you i forget about you equally.... whether purposefully or incidentally... i can't be bothered to remember and think about things beyond my control, im disabled and broke,we all got our lot in life,even if it ain't a lot in life, we all have problems, i deal with mine alone,i leave others to figure their own way in life.
World forgot them😢
The title on this is exactly the same title on the DW video.
Only ros Atkins can take an issue ignored by MSM and keep it interesting
😢
The African Union sent a delegation to Europe recently to try to mediate in the Russia/Ukraine conflict.
But have done absolutely nothing to stop the massacres of African tribes by these Arab-backed forces. Enough said!
honestly the news these days who knows what is going on or what to believe, they will show you what they want to show you, when they want to show you. Remember that.
If it was some nations defending themselves there would be massive protest
Myanmar...
At least most people know there's a war in Sudan go next door to Ethiopia and most people don't know they lost more lives than Afghanistan did in the last ten years.
how? bbc never bothered going there except for mines
I am feeling sadness. In Horn africa,ethiopia,sudan, somali land...conflicted with ur peaple due to poletical difference.
Where’s the marches for Sudan?
Pray for the welfare of the cities we live in. Pray for the peace of Sudan 🇸🇩. Article 99 UN Secretary General.
May Allah save the people of Sudan inshallah 💚
I haven't forgotten it and pray for them and donate to recognised charities in hopes of aid reaching its people. So with all the sadness and wars in the world. Let's not forget
Greed over power and money has led to wars and self destruction around the globe. While arms companies (40% in US and others) made profit.
I still don’t get why people of a same nation, although different ethnicities can’t stand each other. What does it bring for good ?
the europeans carved up the entire africa into countries without consideration for the existing tribes. different ethnicities get put in to the same territory by imperialism.
Because that's not how it goes man. They are convinced that the enemy is within rather than outside the country. That's what made South Sudan split. The fact that the Arab militia gets support from another Arab nation UAE, says a lot about what's going on
@@waynevanilla They can change their boarders, other African countries have...look them up. "African" maps 1920's
As a Moroccan myself, the situation in Sudan has long been echoing for many Sudanese diaspora there. It's very hard if your country is in crisis, yet it is the story of Sudan now.
Unfortunately it shall be race which define the matter. Sudan is part of the Arab world, so the Arab countries have more power than the whole African Union. Kenya has been unable to solve it, but they care what Saudi Arabia said to them.
that's why this war is not solved in the near future .geographically Sudan is in Africa and the majority of them are black if am not mistaken, but waiting help from middle east .the middle east countries couldn't solve their neighbour problem let alone Africa
@@bk2935 Geographically yes. Culturally no.
Sometimes culture is more powerful than location.
👍🙏 well said. Not much we can do about it. Both sides are 😠😡🤬
What about Cameroon 🇨🇲 conflict
I honestly thought theyve stopped the war
Forgotten war?
Maybe not. Here is what a man who has died in 1662 at the age of 39 and two months has written.
'Let us imagine a number of men in chains, and all condemned to death, some of whom are slaughtered every day in full view of the others, those who remain see their own condition in that of their fellow men, and, looking at each other with pain and without hope, wait in turn.'
The bloody madness in Sudan today reminds the bloody atrocities in South Sudan a few years ago. And the bloody madness in the Tigray's region of Ethiopia says the same bloody story.
As the molds that transform human beings into monsters are permanently on, other places are just waiting to have their fair share of bloody atrocities made by monsters in a world where a 60-year-old bloody and dynastic tyranny of Africa is the chief negotiator for countries of Africa, the Caribbean and the Pacific in the framework of their cooperation with the civilized European Union.
Evil and madness aren't what is forgotten in this world. But morality, goodness, mercy, the fear of God, I mean all the noble virtues are what is forgotten.
Millions must be born to suffer and mock.
We who know the whole story It would be better to quickly fix it or help delay it so that bad things don't happen. Do you agree? I think it's better than letting things get worse. Until the person who is still alive Live life at risk of danger from human hands.
which I think remaining life Everyone should live their lives consciously and lead a normal, happy life. Because natural disasters are serious enough. Why would there be a deliberate shooting or increase in the number of deaths?...I don't understand. Why make things worse than this? We should live together without fighting/not hurting each other/You understand me, right?
@@DDAaghj I agree with your point. I as a convinced Christian, strongly believe that if Christian Principles are practiced, this world would be a better place for everyone.
No one on earth is above God. We have been created for God’s glory. Therefore, we all must seek God’s glory. Those who don’t want must not hinder the practical expression of the glory of God.
It’s not that anyone forgot, it’s that they just don’t care. It never ends with a population unwilling to rise up and reject their oppression.
The Sudan war is way worse then wat the ayes of the world is seeing 👀 the world is needs peace ✌️🕊️ 💕 and Care
civil wars are not the worlds problems
China interfered in Korea civil war.
Darling, 99% of all wars are of US doing, and US is the world's problem.
I mean I'd like to try to stop the suffering of human beings caused by human actions no matter where.
"sudan is collapsing as a functioning state and right now it appears there's a limit of what the world can do about it"
And then comes you, equipped with full redundancy and cynicism, missing the point of an entire 9 min coverage. Or maybe your point is that news shouldn't even be reported?
You earn less £15k per annum and you think you talk on behalf of governments who spend billions every year.
Pray for sudan 🇵🇸💔 #talkaboutsudan
Greediness is the root cause of many wars in Africa
I see
Leave them alone!
Why do we want to know about this .This is not are regional news
Should make a report mainly about the civilians. That’s why it’s forgotten because news is only talking about the fighting of two groups. But what about the humanitarian crisis
One of the largest and most prestigious news organizations asking why this hasn't been covered much 😂 i wonder why
It's awful. Other countries aren't going to get involved in a civil war, when you don't get involved you forget. It's messed up.
😮
It seems Dubai is a problem; Zimbabwe’s Gold always heads to Dubai
Should expand on why an RSF victory would potentially lead to a regional conflict.
i am from sudan and every day i pray and beg god (allah) to save my country
Forgotten war, because of you
Sudan 🇸🇩 ❤
Where are the marches for these people?!?!
One thing I dont like about the usa, we tend to cherry pick what we want to see which is advantages at times but has its own flaws.
Literally every country does that.
@@zico739 yes, but its diffrent in 1866 and 2023 doing it
@@davidboi4025blame yourself for not spending time to watch news for every single country everyday. If you cant do that, shut the f up. No one cant track everything thats happening for everything.
Its their issue.......
Comparing the atrocities committed by RSF to the ones the national army is accused of is just ridiculous.
Instead of helping you're making it much worse.
I don't think the UN are any better to upholding humanity 😅
Who asked you to fight in the first place???
Also Myanmar , Help Us
Aren't the resistance winning against junta?
Is it true the resistance use 3D printed weapons?
Help yourself
Free Sudan!
There is another forgotten war in Ethiopia that is on going in Amhara region, esculating by the regime to clean the people of Amhara it is a clear genocide but no one denied it,
Highlights the degree to which people only care about things that they are told to care about. This is just as bad if not worse than the situation in Israel Palestine and yet...
It's worse, but there aren't any jews involved.
Probably because it doesn't matter
America and Americans are HAPPY NOW
you're the news?
Depressing assessment.
What about Congo? More than 12 million dead.
That’s why the ozone layer is being removed.
Unending, doom loop.!
Power struggle.
Lets be honest....We know why its "forgotten"
U r absolutely right all this mess is coming from more than 30 year of wrong politics rejum they have changed all Sudanese mentality to violent....
UN has no business in Sudan
The UN has no business in Sudan, and "peace" activists on our streets do not call for a ceasefire in Sudan, Syria, or Yemen. There are no propaganda masterpieces about innocent Sudanese children on BBC and CNN. Wars between Muslims are not their concern. All they worry about is that Israel might eliminate Hamas.
This week in stupid posts.
Where is UN here???
No kickbacks available for UN
hierarchy like Gaza.
UN is too busy playing double game in gaza,one hand for palastine and one hand for hamas😂