2021 Starboard Waterline & Generation 12’6″x28″ Comparison Review
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2021
- Both the Waterline and Generation from Starboard are very different boards, suited to different water conditions.
The Waterline shape is specifically designed for flat water paddling in calm waters as this is where you will benefit most from the design elements.
Whilst the Generation is one board for every type of condition. The shape of this board allows you to paddle fast for flat water paddling, but has some rocker in the nose shape to perform well in downwind, surfing and ocean paddling/choppy conditions.
Watch the full video and head over to our review post for all the technical information: supboardermag.com/2021/06/30/... - Sport
Again perfect review, i’ve said it before these reviews are really good, no marketing story just customerfocused reviews and info, for every category of supper!! Used your reviews 2years ago when we bought our first sups, now used it again to upgrade our boards
Great to hear that Tim. Happy SUPing Reuben
Great reviews. At about 14st it's good to see the reviews consider all weights of riders, and nice to see the generation on the waves. Keep up the good work chaps!
Thanks Steve 👍🏼👍🏼
Just a thought, it would be really useful if in comparison videos, you showed the two boards being paddled side by side by paddlers putting in equivalent strokes. Thanks again for the review.
Good idea! Thanks for the advice and we will start to incorporate this into the comparison videos. Cheers, Beau
Great review on the Waterline! Made for speed, it’s not the typical touring board. It’s so different than the JP GT-S that I don’t think they can actually be compared. If I were to enter an amateur sprint competition, I’d pick the waterline. If I wanted to exercise / cover distance, again the Waterline. If I wanted to attract the girls laying on the beach, hm, maybe again the waterline. It just happens that the Waterline seems to be a more specialised board, whereas the GT-S seems to be suited for a more relaxed style of paddling where one is not required to get speed in flatwater conditions in order to get the most from it. Would be very interesting to see the Supboarder Pro video and that’s why I’m looking forward to it. Kind regards - Georgi
Hi Georgi, your thoughts are very welcomed and very true as well. The PRO video will be out very shortly I think you already know how they will compare. Thanks for sharing your insights. Beau
Just picked up a 14ft Generation carbon after getting advice from you guy. Top board glides amazingly well. Thick sides compared to my Older Starboard Drive
Great to hear Chris! Those thick sides help with stability and blend performance across the different disciplines.
@@SUPboardermag Absolutely mate downwind from the inner fairway buoys to the river by me is amazing. Running a single fin at the moment
Yeee. nice one
I have a 14x28" carbon Waterline. It is amazing to paddle. It makes NO sound...at all. I use it for flat water racing. I LOVE it . I waited 18months to get it and am in no way disappointed. Fine in water up to about 125mm waves.
However it could be better. There are no side handles and makes it incredibly difficult to carry and next to impossibleto carry in wind. I had to gerry rig one on the fitting ojn the right and put a strap through the elastic fittings to carry and control when walking with it.
The deck could be 25mm deeper at the standing area, to improve the primary stability.
Re: The tail drag. Because the board has so little nose bouyancy , if you move a very tiny bit forward, so the nose sinks to the max forward length , the tail wings sit clear ( I am 84kg).
Also the low floatation tail and the width, it bouy turns really well!
Thanks for commenting Greg, So good to get an owners feedback. Thanks again and happy paddling Reuben
Can I get a little more info/stats on you, as a paddler? I am looking to replace an Infinity Whiplash for flatwater. The Waterline is one of my options. I am 6' and 240lbs. Been paddling a 14'x25" Whiplash for 2 years and just can't seem to make this board work for me.
@@aaronatkins6677 What are you after? I have been paddling about 3 years now but raced cats and for a while , dabbled in designing an A class, made and surfed surfboards since 1968 ( can't do it now because of my eyesight and neck). I am 84 Kg and 177cm. I train on flatwater/ no- current impounded freshwater river and race mostly in an estuary, so flat and small short chop. We currently have a silting section in the race course that requires running about 100meters through ankle to knee deep water ( hence the desire for decent handles). My last race board was a 14x28 SIC RS SF. Should have listened to the salesman and got the 26" as these are insanely stable ( my first board with any dugout). Note: I am 68 and have only 40% lung function so I cannot get the top speeds sustained of ordinary people, which is why I choose a board the is faster in the mid to 3/4 range. Come from an endurance sports background. 5km times around 37mins, 10km times arounf 75-80mins and 15km times 115-120mins. Hope that is useful.
My next board ( waiting for delivery) is a ONE SUP Edge Pro 2.0 14x25.5 ( non hollow carbon)
Great review!! The Waterline is sooo fast Starboard is taking this design and tweaking it for the 2022 Sprint. The 2021 waterline is faster than their raceboards in flat water for most people, minus those few elite paddlers. I have yet to try a Generation but think its a wonderful design especially the 14' for Ocean paddling - Like to see Starboard include a Race Ultra fin with it or would suggest it as an add on for faster paddling and better tracking
Hi Chris, great shout. A better fin would be awesome for added performance. We also agree that the Waterline is quick in calm conditions. Glad you enjoy paddling it. Beau
@@SUPboardermag I run a Black Project Ray V1 24 fin on my 14x28 waterline for racing, except when we have a shallow run section. Then I use a Deep carbon race fin cut down to 7 1/2" . Both are big improvements on the stock fin.
Cool thanks for that Greg. Good to know.
I have a generation lite tech. Incredible board for the money, very versatile. Not as fast as my allstar but for under 1500 US I think its excellent value.
Hi Drew. We agree with this. Glad you enjoy paddling it.
realizing its not as fast as a race style board, does it still have nice glide for touring/fitness?
Absolutley, has plenty of glide for touring. But If speed and glide are your top concerns and most of your paddling is in benign flat water I would say there are better boards for that than the generation.
@@drewward6895 exploring and fitness are my primary interests but I’m on water that is flat 75% open water with chop 25%
Great comparison! Would the Generation glide better than an 11x32 all around board ? I want a board that is efficient on flatwater (not racing just good glide and stable) but can handle waves and open water. Thanks!!
Hi. Yes, the Generation would glide better than the 11' x 32" as it is narrower and longer. The stability of course depends on your weight and height, but for using a board in a range of different conditions, the generation is hard to go past.
Great reviews! Thank you! I’ve got my eye on the 14’ Starboard Touring. Have your reviewed this board (or do you plan too)?
They've reviewed the 12'6 previously: czcams.com/video/d9VUQx5pMoc/video.html
@@SpaceCowboy2071 I missed this! Thanks!
@@SpaceCowboy2071 thanks again. They talked me out of it! Ha! Now I’m looking at the Red Inflatable Touring 13’2” which seems to check more boxes for me.
@@dylanfgarrison try both before you buy..compare the glide
Thanks for all the comments guys 👍🏼
Would really like to see the 14’ Generation in the surf!
Ok we will see what we can do. Have you seen it in the older review we did last year?
@@SUPboardermag I did. Trying to decide whether to go for 14’ depending how well it surfs or buries the nose.
Really interested in the Generation. I was going to get the Carbon Top, but on your last review a couple comments mentioned the paint work easily chipped and cracked. Between the Carbon Top and the Lite Tech, which is better taking a bit of abuse and wear'n'tear?
I’d like to know which construction is more durable as well.
Hi Richard, the Carbon Top is durable, but the construction is definitely more suited to getting more performance out of the board. The Lite Tech is more robust and harder wearing and the weight reiterates this, but it depends what's more important to your paddling needs - more performance or longer lasting. Cheers, Beau
Hi Richard, I have the 12.6 Generation in Lite Tech and I can tell you it's a great board but (also) sensitive board. It needs needs very little power in contact with something hard (like a stone or so) for getting a crack at the glossy surface. Nothing serious... but since you are asking this, I thought you should get this information... ;)
@@ralfkock5082 what performance hard board can hit a rock and not have consequences?
Thanks Ralf
Have they removed the kick pad at the back of the generation for 2021? If yes, do you know why?
Hi Paul, the kick pad is still there. Not much has changed on 2021 apart from the graphics.
If you had to choose between a Generation 14ft or a Bullet 14ft , which would you buy. I’m torn between the two, and seems impossible to find anywhere to try these boards before buying.
Hi Paul, sorry to not get back to you. We must have missed this comment. We have some videos coming out about the SIC Bullet so stay tuned if you still need to know more. Thanks
If you had to choose between a Generation 14ft or a Bullet 14ft , which would you buy. I’m torn between the two, and seems impossible to find anywhere to try these boards before buying.
Hey Paul, two great boards and Im happy using both BUT the SIC has a little bit more top end. The Generation is the easier board to use, the Bullet is still easy but if you are Downwinding and catching the bumps the Gen does most of the work for you. The bullet is a board that a paddler with a bit more experience can get alot out of. Any help? Thanks reuben SUPboarder
@@SUPboardermag thanks, that’s a great help. I’m edging towards the bullet. Have you buy any chance been on both the 27.5 inch and 30 inch? Is there much difference?
We have bought a 27.5' Bullet and it offers us the best combination of speed and stability. But the 30 wide will offer you more stability. As a guide paddlers over 90kg would be better on the 30". But the 27.5 is good for most mid weight paddlers. Does that help? Thanks
@@SUPboardermag That’s great. I have been able to try a 27.5 and it’s amazingly stable so that’s definitely the one to go for. 👍👍
@@SUPboardermag hi. I’ve just received my new bullet and the finish and styling is very different to the websites and videos. It’s the DF construction and is totally Matt in finish , no nice gloss sections and it doesn’t have the red stripe running along the rails at the bottom . I seem to be getting confusing info and have emailed sic but wondered what yours looks like and when you bought it. Hope you can advise. Thanks