I think Dr. Peterson is spot on with this. I am close to retirement after 46 years as an engineer. I have designed or built Nuclear power plants hydropower plants facilities to distribute electricity, chemical plants telecommunications facilities. As engineers the thing we do are what make society work. And yes I am more interested in things than people, although my grandchildren may displace things as an interest.
Thanks for sharing! Those industries (like power generation) underly and shape society as we know it, although the general public would know little outside of the outlets in their homes. Certainly, over and above the technical details and the societal impact, it is a general interest in things that keeps the curiosity.
I'm studying to be an engineer and everything said here really resonates with me. But I will say that I'm sort of split because I do like people. I don't really enjoy social events or shallow small talk, but I love studying people and learning what makes them tick. I really enjoy long one-to-one convos where most of the time I'm just asking questions about the other person and just trying to learn as much as I can about them. Sometimes I think I would be better suited as a psychologist or therapist.
As a medical school dropout I realized I was less interested in people and more interested on how computer systems and science worked and had a natural inclination to problem solve and have curiosity. This curiosity and passion to find a solution to make something work is why I fell in love with the field and switched into this field (also the love for computers). But being able to fix something and understand it like even a car is just so satisfying to me intellectually. My friend mentioned that it brings out the masculine energy which I found interesting and funny because men have this itch to fix something when it’s broken, which I believe makes sense. I’m curious on everyone else’s perspective and situation.
One comment I noted is that he said, engineers should be good people and have their heads screwed on straight. As an old used up engineer and engineering professor I think this is the most poignant point in this thesis. I had a patent on on a handheld lie detector and to perfect the technology I needed to study statement analysis and am an expert on lying and the detection of lies. If you are heading into AI, please be cognisant that the underlying pursuit of AI is the truth and homo sapiens lie 60 percent of the time and 80 percent by omission. With the onset of easy access to the internet the dissemination of false information has become a game to many. The ultimate pursuit of truth resides in the elimination of homo sapiens from the planet or to convince humans that however difficult the truth may be to say, it is a necessity to be heard, for our species to prevail. Be cognisant of this when you write the code for this endeavour
You don’t need to be above 116 IQ to become an engineer. I’m a third year EE student with a GPA of 3.91 at an accredited university and I can tell you I’m bang average when it comes to intelligence, maybe even below average in certain aspects of it. For example I’ve tried taking up chess and I just cannot improve for the life of me, constant blunders and I’m incapable of coming up with strategies or making quick calculations in my head.
I really am only interested in like the 8-10 people that are close to me in life. I couldn't care less about other people, yet I somehow will log everything in my head about someone. Their mannerisms and everything, I love to observe and read people. Yet I don't care about them. Once someone called me a psychopath and it really made me wonder, but I've always felt frustrated by my empathy. I don't want to know people, it is too painful. Science is an escape, my coding assignments are an escape, somewhere for my brain to go. I'm afraid I will never be content, sometimes I just don't want do anything. I'm not even particularly intellectually gifted, yet I feel like if I'm not doing something that analytical aspect of myself will start picking my soul apart. Thanks for reading my self reflection.
All vague generalizations. Engineers come in many shapes and sizes. Typically, we study (and apply) abstract concepts which some find easy to grasp and others never will. It’s a built intuition that comes from experience. In the workplace, an Electronics Engineer, a Civil Engineer and an Automotive Quality Engineer have next to no overlap cause they’re fundamentally dealing with different systems and applications. While the notion that all “Engineers” share certain characteristics is interesting, I don’t see any evidence in Jordan Peterson’s assertions. My personal experience is that people are shaped much more by their life experience OUTSIDE of school than in it.
A fair observation. They are among the most insensitive people you will ever meet. But, would you rather have poets, accountants, and English teachers designing our technical products. I think universities chuld do a better job teaching STEM technocrats some soft skills.
You dont need to be smart to be an engineer. it's all about work ethic. If you study hard, practice practice and practice. I guarantee you engineering will be a breeze except you will most likely fail and hate your life forever
It's as though you've considered it through that lens well before they've started to consider it for themselves. Something says to me a fundamental understanding of how things work now are a large part of understanding what one would want next.
yes lay-people's needs can be predicted beforehands however engineers often design god awful GUi and i also find that proficiency in a specific field leaves them a lot wanting in other aspects of life
@@ydid687 Is that your arbitrary opinion or is it backed by fact, and which subset of engineers specifically are you referring to? I work in electrical engineering and understand not all engineers are built the same.
I lnow. But the dumbed downed idiots in America will never do that. Every time I get on a plane, I wonder who made that flap assembly? And how many people were on that specific team to make it work ? Your average American doesn't care....
I think Dr. Peterson is spot on with this. I am close to retirement after 46 years as an engineer. I have designed or built Nuclear power plants hydropower plants facilities to distribute electricity, chemical plants telecommunications facilities. As engineers the thing we do are what make society work. And yes I am more interested in things than people, although my grandchildren may displace things as an interest.
Thanks for sharing! Those industries (like power generation) underly and shape society as we know it, although the general public would know little outside of the outlets in their homes. Certainly, over and above the technical details and the societal impact, it is a general interest in things that keeps the curiosity.
I'm studying to be an engineer and everything said here really resonates with me. But I will say that I'm sort of split because I do like people. I don't really enjoy social events or shallow small talk, but I love studying people and learning what makes them tick. I really enjoy long one-to-one convos where most of the time I'm just asking questions about the other person and just trying to learn as much as I can about them. Sometimes I think I would be better suited as a psychologist or therapist.
IoT - The Interest of Things
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@@AltafKhan-qd1tk right?
I'm a humanist & interested in The Internet Of Intellects.
this is it and also the understanding of things as well
As a medical school dropout I realized I was less interested in people and more interested on how computer systems and science worked and had a natural inclination to problem solve and have curiosity. This curiosity and passion to find a solution to make something work is why I fell in love with the field and switched into this field (also the love for computers). But being able to fix something and understand it like even a car is just so satisfying to me intellectually. My friend mentioned that it brings out the masculine energy which I found interesting and funny because men have this itch to fix something when it’s broken, which I believe makes sense. I’m curious on everyone else’s perspective and situation.
Thank you for making this collection! I have just started in engineering university and have noticed these changes in me!
No problem. We enjoyed putting this together and should see another vid coming soon. This time, it will be Elons' 5 key steps to be a better engineer.
I'm afraid to lose my technical edge to people babysitting
The higher you go the more this becomes reality. What do you do to keep in touch with the technical?
One comment I noted is that he said, engineers should be good people and have their heads screwed on straight. As an old used up engineer and engineering professor I think this is the most poignant point in this thesis. I had a patent on on a handheld lie detector and to perfect the technology I needed to study statement analysis and am an expert on lying and the detection of lies.
If you are heading into AI, please be cognisant that the underlying pursuit of AI is the truth and homo sapiens lie 60 percent of the time and 80 percent by omission. With the onset of easy access to the internet the dissemination of false information has become a game to many. The ultimate pursuit of truth resides in the elimination of homo sapiens from the planet or to convince humans that however difficult the truth may be to say, it is a necessity to be heard, for our species to prevail. Be cognisant of this when you write the code for this endeavour
You don’t need to be above 116 IQ to become an engineer. I’m a third year EE student with a GPA of 3.91 at an accredited university and I can tell you I’m bang average when it comes to intelligence, maybe even below average in certain aspects of it. For example I’ve tried taking up chess and I just cannot improve for the life of me, constant blunders and I’m incapable of coming up with strategies or making quick calculations in my head.
You just have to be a persistent learner and embrace feeling stupid
On another note ive gotten two iq results of 142 yet dropped out of college because I thought I wasn't smart enough. Perspective is 🔐
I really am only interested in like the 8-10 people that are close to me in life. I couldn't care less about other people, yet I somehow will log everything in my head about someone. Their mannerisms and everything, I love to observe and read people. Yet I don't care about them. Once someone called me a psychopath and it really made me wonder, but I've always felt frustrated by my empathy. I don't want to know people, it is too painful. Science is an escape, my coding assignments are an escape, somewhere for my brain to go. I'm afraid I will never be content, sometimes I just don't want do anything. I'm not even particularly intellectually gifted, yet I feel like if I'm not doing something that analytical aspect of myself will start picking my soul apart. Thanks for reading my self reflection.
“Engineers prefer things than people”
I hate to burst your bubble, but people ARE things. - Mechanical Engineer
Are engineers creative?
Very
@@liquidketamine8562 we must agree on this for sure
@@engineering_irl That's like the whole point of engineering, using physics and science creatively.
@@liquidketamine8562 definitely agree! You sometimes see that narrative out there that engineering is the opposite end of creative topics
Two things, creative or ruthless
Happy engineers' day all!! Today, 15th September, is celebrated as Engineer's day in India
Happy Engineers Day!
Man I really wish Jordan Peterson was one of my physics professors.
I’m a patent attorney
Nice
All vague generalizations.
Engineers come in many shapes and sizes. Typically, we study (and apply) abstract concepts which some find easy to grasp and others never will. It’s a built intuition that comes from experience.
In the workplace, an Electronics Engineer, a Civil Engineer and an Automotive Quality Engineer have next to no overlap cause they’re fundamentally dealing with different systems and applications. While the notion that all “Engineers” share certain characteristics is interesting, I don’t see any evidence in Jordan Peterson’s assertions. My personal experience is that people are shaped much more by their life experience OUTSIDE of school than in it.
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I think engineers are sexy. 🤭
It's their big fat wallets isn't it?
@@doedelzak3914 and that too of course. Smartness & money, who would say no to that?
@@mochabomb and what do you offer instead? Just a hole? Lol
thanks even though Im not fully satisfied with the description.
@@doedelzak3914No, it's the ability to look at the situation and come up with a right solution, problem-solving skills, sharp mind
Oh, my, this guy just does not shut up. What authority is this guy to talk about every single topic?
A fair observation. They are among the most insensitive people you will ever meet. But, would you rather have poets, accountants, and English teachers designing our technical products. I think universities chuld do a better job teaching STEM technocrats some soft skills.
Basically, teach STEM technocrats how to manipulate people. That’s what soft skills basically are.
You dont need to be smart to be an engineer. it's all about work ethic. If you study hard, practice practice and practice. I guarantee you engineering will be a breeze except you will most likely fail and hate your life forever
OK captain obvious
as an engineer, I can tell what ppl want before they speak.
It's as though you've considered it through that lens well before they've started to consider it for themselves. Something says to me a fundamental understanding of how things work now are a large part of understanding what one would want next.
@@engineering_irl Foresight seems to be logical wisdom, normies dont seem to have the same level of clairvoyance.
yes lay-people's needs can be predicted beforehands however engineers often design god awful GUi
and i also find that proficiency in a specific field leaves them a lot wanting in other aspects of life
@@ydid687 Is that your arbitrary opinion or is it backed by fact, and which subset of engineers
specifically are you referring to? I work in electrical engineering and understand not all engineers are built the same.
@@engineering_irl Always bank on an individuals laziness and you cant go wrong
Engineers whould have ticker tape parades....not the Kardashians....
Wouldn't that be something.
I lnow. But the dumbed downed idiots in America will never do that. Every time I get on a plane, I wonder who made that flap assembly? And how many people were on that specific team to make it work ? Your average American doesn't care....