Why is Suella Braverman still in her job? | James O'Brien on LBC
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2023
- As questions arise over allegations that the Home Secretary consulted civil servants about a personal speed awareness course, James O'Brien unpacks some of the history of ministerial code breaches by politicians under Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, and now potentially Rishi Sunak.
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Attitudes like Braverman's are precisely why this country is in such a mess. What the Tories have done to standards in public life is unforgivable.
The worst criminal is Boris
Attitudes is attitudes, innit 😢.
Worth considering that large amounts of the British electorate share her values and that we have a political system that (perhaps disproportionally) allows them to decide who has power.
@@andrewrobinson2565Awful grammar on my part. Fixed now.
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I was brought up in a large family and none of us were religious however, if any of us lied and were caught in the lie it was a huge offense in our home. I’m now 74 and my number one rule in life is truth and I’ve found that it has served me well, lying is to very hard work,I look at the UK Tory party and believe they must be exhausted
It would be impossible to keep many jobs if you did not lie occasionally, especially if your employer is one of the many psychopaths always looking for trouble and people to fire.
I believe in the truth on every level David, no matter who it offends or upsets.
there is a great german saying "lies have short legs.."
How very true. When I was lying to my parents,(usually didn't admit that I did something very trivial), and was ashamed that I dissapointed my parents. My mum said, that I should of admit of wrong doing, and apologised. I think she was more upset that I lied, than anything else. I think, lies don't pay off, in particular if you are in a public office, you should set an example. I lost trust completely in our politics. What is really sad, that she is an adult. You could forgive a little kids. When you grow up, however you should learn from your mistakes. 🤨🤨🤨
Cruella is a Buddhist. Her husband is a Jew! So much for religious people !
It all makes sense as soon as you realize that grifting and corruption is ethical to these people.
....well you will continue to vote for politicians...😊
I wonder why most of our MPs still have a job. System is corrupt!
they attended the correct schools and institutions etc...you and I didnt....
Our MPs across all parties, , civil service, MET police , ...are totally corrupted...and that is a very sad state for our people to live in.
all greedy and corrupt people chose to be in politics in order to become billionaires.
@@anthonymichaeldurkin6244 you mean they have less morality than you , him , I.....
That a government needs an ethics adviser is evidence enough that the whole system needs reform.
In theory every politician should have one, regardless if they need one. Someone who can at least tell you when you're going full Nero
@@Gabryal77 The electorate should have the power of recall and be informed. No ethics adviser needed.
Don't forget that it's alleged that she also asked Civil Servants if she could claim speeding fines as an MPs expense!
Typical Tory. Completely unwilling to spend a penny of their own money, preferring to sponge off the taxpayer while stoking hatred against anyone on benefits.
Seriously if that's true its unbelievable.. pay up like all us plebs have to ..ffs the entitlement is of the scale 😳
Im sorry what... she needs sacking
@@yully89 Why she was EVER appointed in the first place is the more important issue.
@@CHUTNEX totally. But the same can be said for any of the cabinet or top ministers
The absolute privilege of this women’s knows no bounds. They’re just a terrible bunch.
Perhaps James could invite her onto his show and ask her directly?
Trying to catch up with the windsor's....
...your name flatters you...but thats OK...we live in a democracy.....though some here wish we didn't.....😊
@@nick1065 they dont go on his shows. just ferrari and dale, the softballers
@@kanedNunable Indeed, how foolish of me to think otherwise. She’s obviously scared of O’Brien’s forensic skills…
Braverman is a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. She is a person who is so thoroughly unethical that she doesn't even know she's unethical.
Whereas O’Brien is the perfect example of the spineless broadcaster effect. That’s why he preaches from the safe sanctuary of his solo echo chamber. Just a nodding dog audience here I’m afraid.
she would need basic empathy for that. seems we store that in chins :P
@@kanedNunable 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂
I said the same about Johnson , he's so corrupt and self entitled he doesn't know he's corrupt and self entitled!
She's not even in the foothills of the curve...
Sunak keeps Braverman around because he didn't have the votes to be PM so he paid for her with a place on the cabinet and all the ensuing drama. Both are rotten to the core
we dont want or need these corrupt people to govern over us as they have no respect for us or our country.
The epitome of the NASTY party.
She helped rishi get into no. 10. As no doubts rishi would not want a potential leadership contest, which he would lose. He needs her in cabinet because he is a weak pm and if she goes, his government would collapse. Just call an election and be done with this party.
And Lazy and Corrupt!
If he goes or is any weaker she has put herself in prime position to usurp or replace him. That's her duplicitous game
Honestly, it’s just one problem after another for the Conservative Party
And yet people will still vote for them, utter insanity.
Of course - if it weren't for all the problems, what would the press report on but their atrocious performance in government? Gotta keep the gaffes coming thick and fast - it's the Boris Johnson way.
Obrien y and your like are toxic
What's she done do terrible
@create your emotion No - he didn't mean "politicians in general."
Unless you can find someone from any other party than the Tories with this arrogant and corrupt behaviour.
Different boss, same morals, this government must go, and go now.
I have a theory why Sunak keeps Cruella around. She makes him seem humble, sane and compassionate in comparison. She always looks like she's off to a fitting of new jackboots.
I reckon it's because she can say the things no white person could get away with. Tories only chance of staying in power is to try and appeal to right wing leaning groups and your Daily Mail/Sun reader's (who make up a large voter group)
....and you posted that with a straight face...credit where credits due....😊
@@chatham43 lol, I meant it too 😃
Says the party that want to erode free speech and womens rights
The reason,she has done nothing wrong, just labour what her out, they haven’t any thing else to say.
What I will never understand, is how people both respect people like her, while also degrading "people on benefits." They'll talk endlessly about how it's disgusting that people get public money, yet they don't seem to care when it's rich people like her taking public money, they have so many "allowances" it's ridiculous. They get their large salary, their second homes, their costs paid for, their meals paid for, travel expenses paid for and then they claim all the extra allowances they possibly can. People are so blind to their double standards.
we have 5 million layabouts on £40K benefits sponging off hard working taxpayers , abolish income tax and let the layabouts work ......or starve.
That's not blindness it's dumbness!
@@bigbinji6145 Why don't you care about people like her sponging off of taxpayers?
I don't think anybody, least of all those in government, begrudge benefits for those in genuine need. As for expenses and allowances, tye same rule applies to all MP's.
She did not seek to claim anything in this regard on expenses, so what is your point?.
@edwardarmstrong9138 I base my opinion on evidence. Do you have any evidence to suggest she did try to claim the course costs (a course she did not take) or the fine that she paid herself?
As for your comment about the police; the mind boggles.
Because the lot of them are as bent as a paper clip
Look for the socialists in parliament - their inherent philosophy means they see themselves and the purpose of parliament as serving the people. Any other political position can happily lie about their motives, as their politics doesn't require them to give power to working people.
That's insulting to paper clips-- they actually fulfil their purpose
bent as a 9bob note as my dad used to say
...that's politicians for you...and we continually vote for them....😊
"Everyone needs an ethics advisor" It is usually called a conscience😊
Yeah if you can't tell the basic difference between right and wrong, nobody should want you in government...so that leaves out just about everyone in any government?! Lol
If you need an ethics advisor, you shouldn't be in government. 😐
Keir doesn't need one. He's got Sue Gray.
I'm starting to believe that Suella Braverman is not even aware there is a ministerial code.
Or Kier starmer, (sue Gray,) how about D/Abbot?
@@fin1131 When did Starmer break the ministerial code?
Could anyone imagine her finding a lost handbag with money inside, and handing it in? She'd keep it
She'd hand back an empty bag and expect plaudits for doing so
@@RankinMsP True!
Why is Jobby still in his job?
Because he is the most popular presenter on any talk radio show. That's why Global pay him the big bucks. If you don't generate the numbers on LBC you don't last long as a presenter.
The problem she has is that the general public has zero tolerance and trust in politicians and quite rightly so. Recovery isn't feasible with this latest issue.
Core tory supporters dont have that view. They see a few problems but nothing that an even more right wing tory party couldn't sort out given a 'proper' Brexit.
I would argue the opposite. The British public has a high tolerance for this kind of behaviour. It’s why these people are in power in the first place.
It's not even an issue.
@@stephanguitar9778 That or they use the 'they are all just as bad as each other' line, then look offended when you suggest voting for another party to at least get rid of the current lot.
@@jameswood88 You only have to listen and see what the opposition parties are like to see why this government is in and not them ?. Whatever happens at the next General Election you can bet it will be no fun for the public at large or the British taxpayer .More of the same from the Tories and Labour intend to tax the public & motorist till there is a glut throwing themselves off tall buildings ! .
The question is not about keeping her job; It is to know why she and many of her collogues are not in prison?
WHY??? Because Sunak needs her backing to stay on his job.!!!!! Pure and simple self preservation!!!! 🏴🏴🏴🏴🤬🤬
Yep
I think Rishi keeps her around because she knows where all the bodies are buried, and if cut loose would probably leak the details to further her own agenda.
No he is just as corrupt and a well known rule breaker. Remember he thought it was perfectly fine to have parties during lockdown. Do everything to avoid paying tax and The list goes on.
...interesting conspiracy theory...if a little cliched...
He keeps her around benue she's a distraction from the mess the UK economy is in thanks to Brexshit and 23 years of tory austerity.
There's no 'probably' involved in that scenario.
You’ve let them have power for 13 years.
What do you expect? They think they are invincible and untouchable.
....and no general election in 13 years....despicable...
Excellent response
I love the word TOXIC this sums up everything
...and you spelt it correctly...and in capital letters to celebrate that fact...😊
Ethics? Ethics? We don't need no stinkin' ethics!
LOL - SURELY YOU MEAN ETHEEEEEEEEECS!!.
Ethnics ethnics ethnics we don’t need more ethnics thanks very much
@@royboy1901 So you like Suella or no?
One could almost conclude that personal integrity is in as short supply in the UK these days as it is in the US or in Israel (where I am). Where has it gone? Has it always beenn like this and we simply haven't noticed?
I don't think it has always been this way. When Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon (1974), the public felt betrayed. Bibi, Johnson and Trump exemplify the idea that justice delayed is justice denied. Autocracy at its finest.
Slowly boiled frogs.
Lot's of us in the UK have integrity, don't judge us by this terrible woman's standards
I'd argue that personal integrity has always been a bit lacklustre in a country that has occupied another people for 3 generations.
@@alexvince461 watch the racism pal , we know you rancid socialists dont like the fact that her husband is a Jew and she is a Buddhist
My ethics advisor is what is called a conscience. Everyone stay safe and well and thank you as always to LBC 👍
As a civil servant (not a Whitehall 'mandarin') civil servants are required to follow the CS code....one tennet is 'honesty' another is 'integrity'...so the servant involved breached the CS code.
Remember folks, Braverman is a trained lawyer.
Like a trained copper that assumes that laws are for other people, not them.
Just not a particularly well trained one it would seem.
She studied law but never actually became a practising Lawyer.
Think you had a typo, should be trained liar
…did you mean a trained Liar 🧐
Sunak keeps her around because he is weak and pathetic.
Appalling bunch of heartless chancers!
They are not just chancers, they are also criminals.
...so don't vote Labour...we live in a democracy you know.
@@chatham43 That's a strange Idea of democracy if you think that being governed by fascists is in anyway democratic. And we are being governed by fascists.
@@chatham43 I'd sooner vote Labour if it helped get the Tories out
@@chatham43 And you are aware that Labour aren't in power, right?
As usual spot on James
It’s hardly breaking news. She’s Home Secretary. She’s got bigger things to be doing than doing a police awareness course. Imagine if this was any other country ? They wouldn’t even talk about it. Who cares. Move on. Let her do her job. (Ps. I don’t like any MP, before ppl think I’m a Tory)
That's not the issue though. The issue is that she tried to get civil servants to arrange a private course for her so she wouldn't have to mingle with the plebs, which is a breach of the ministerial code. The code which she was sacked for breaking before. If she was caught speeding and either paid the fine or did the course without trying to use her power to pull strings, it wouldn't be a big deal. Being home secretary doesn't mean she's above the law!
@@Aranel_Alasse would you not agree that her time is better spent elsewhere and that a private course would be beneficial for all involved ?
@@stevobcn35 I would agree that her time is better spent out of cabinet! 😂 They don't do private courses for anyone, so she shouldn't expect to be treated differently to anyone else and she definitely shouldn't abuse her government position to get favourable treatment. We shouldn't let MP's get away with corruption, even if it seems like a minor thing. If they get away with something small, they'll think they can get away with anything. Rishi promised accountability in his government, so now it's time to actually deliver one of his promises for the first time ever!
Take her to the Tower
Give her a one way ticket to Rwanda.
She is a GHOUL.
Do you know, I honestly get a shiver when I see her. The way a woman shudders over a wrong'un, or a child sees a scary clown.
….😮 …ghoul, most definitely 💯
I think that is an insult to the proud history of ghouls 😂
...you didn't leave out the H this time...well ✔ done...😊
He keeps her around because she knows things we don’t and he wouldn’t want to risk it being let out
Sunak keeping Braverman around 🤔 The saying “keep your friends close, and your enemies closer” comes to mind.
While inside the cabinet she’ll be less critical of the leadership.
Indians help each other....that's why they own the UK!
To me, the most bizarre thing about her is that her parents somehow came to the conclusion that the name Sue Ellen conjured any sort of positive imagery.
It is not the equivalent of calling a son Adolf, but it is hardly a positive image with which to send a new life into the world.
This is a classic example of arrogance and entitlement
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
The Narcissist’s Prayer - Dayna Craig
She is the gift that keeps on giving
She’s Rushi best friend . Their parents from the same country- India ?
Great show always James. I just laugh better than crying at the double standards and hypocrisy of these people.
The blob wetting themselves over a speeding fine how about sacking the grass at the home office
She wanted to pay her speeding fine with her MP expenses. That’s illegal.
She could hold the policies she does, and present them neutrally. They'd still be callous and cruel, but at least they'd seem neutral. However, she seems pleased and almost gleeful about them, and constantly uses disgusting, inflammatory language, which adds a deliberate layer of toxicity to what she says and does, and that's what I find to be truly contemptible about her.
Absoloutely!
Suella braverman has something unspeakably nasty about her.
It's a lot worse than that. She tried to avoid the vote on her flagship legislation on migration in spite of a three-line whip. Let this sink in: her own legislation went to the vote and she asked to be excused from voting. Her gleeful enthusiasm on cruelty is not reflected in actually doing the deed when necessary. She intentionally attempted to fail those who put her in parliament. What she does and what she says are two different things. And yet her base only hear her talk and never bother to check her actions.
This is like listening to next doors dog barking at an empty crisp bag blowing past in the wind.
bye bye Cruella
Do not be certain Sunak will do the right thing.
I hope so.
A total lefty meltdown 😂
Your comment is a meltdown because you clearly can't handle the truth about the government.
Why does Rishi keep Cruella around? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Because shes a lawyer
thank you, godfather!
Maybe they are having an affair 😂
...wise words indeed...thanks for that....
@@RAMBOIT. My thoughts exactly
How many times can you lie ,before the public get these people removed
My mate did his speed awareness course with one of the guys from Bucks Fizz. Doesn't get bigger than that.
You gotta speed it up...
@@rinzaghi2057 but then you've got to slow it down, I'm guessing that's what the course is all about.
Your comment is underrated by the way, you're a genius.
@@barryboom717 Thank you. But maybe Im just getting old...😉
you're the genius for getting it
This Suelle bravewoman cannot tell the truth 😂
99% of Tories are incapable of telling the truth.
I'm willing to wager that Suella Braverman is still in her job because she serves as a lightning rod/distraction.
What is the point of an ethics advisor if you simply do not have any?
The woman is so incompetent; how she even became an MP in the first place is beyond me
But you think Dianne Abbott is there because of a meritocracy?
@@davidatkinson5858 Diane Abbott's education is no different to anyone else in parliament. Why would raise such a question?
@@thucydidescallas525 why would you ignore the question I asked and answer one you've made up yourself?
@@davidatkinson5858 Perceived merits are judged by these gate keeper unis. Some people will say Tories have demonstrated competency with their handling of our country; other swill disagree, and rightfully so. I am not interested in your opinions as to what Diane’s merits are so I defaulted to her successful completion of studies at the same institutions as her colleagues… I didn’t make anything up, you overlooked the implications of your own question.
Sunak can't sack her because she would be toxic outside the cabinet. 'better in the tent p1ssing out, rather than outside the tent 'p1ssing in'
Hahaha 😅 word mate
Ms Braverman really has an issue with adhering to speed limits - remember how she asked if she could put speeding fines on expenses? Serial offender? Laws for the little people? Ladies and gentlemen; your Home Secretary.
Send her to Rwanda on a one way ticket.
@@WilliamWatt-xm2gu 100%
She probably has dirt on Rishi and other high ranking Tories that they don't want to come out.
Lets hope so.
@@stephanguitar9778 Yeah let's make it to PM number 10 by the time of the next election lol
"I go down I'm taking the rest of you with me"
I've always assumed this was why all Tories tolerated each other tbh
Oh and all labour mps no dirt on them I suppose
It's a witch hunt for something petty, she asked if it was possible to do the punishment privately or under an alias, big deal, I don't expect to share attending a driver awareness course for speeding with the whole country, why should she? In the end she paid the fine and took the points rather than share attending the course with the whole country and yet they learn of it anyway. She should be re-imbursed as a minimum for the breach of her privacy on the matter.
Why is James O'Brien still in his job?
Rest in peace lee rigby we will remember
It's hard to keep up with all the rule-breaking!
Sorry but this is what you get when Boris surrounded himself with people who had same standards as himself
I know. People eating cake. People arranging speed awareness courses. Absolute rotters!
@@clivet3252 simp more cuck boy?
My understanding is that Braverman''s policy on refugees is rule breakers deserve to be deported to Rwanda. What would Karma be?
Sunak's poor judgment and desperation to become unelected PM has lead to this.
The ERG required at least one of their members in cabinet in order for Sunak to get the votes he needed to be elected leader of the party, and she was the least bonkers one he could stand. That's my theory.
I wonder if these Tories sleep well at night..so many lies🙄
She should be sacked immediately.
She must have some serious leverage. Never understood bringing her bacm just 6 days after leaving the cabinet.
All heads involved must roll,followed by jelly back sunak for bringing her back into the fold.
Well put James!
Well said 👏👏👏
Why does he keep Cruella around? Simple answer , in any environment, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. She's dangerous and he's weak....and she will be plotting and circling
There's seems to be no repercussions to their actions.
...apart from a speeding fine...I think that's for speeding...😊
they need ethics advisor as it seems every minister and juniot, have no ethics
Oh do y really think labour are always on the straight and narrow. Skarner is an hypocrite
Anybody better than labour they sbuse people and threaten them she didn't do anything so terrible labour ethics
Well I don't think it was ethical for skarmer to recommend Tom Watson for the Lords when Tom Watson was instrumental in bringing a case against Lord brittain which was completely false ethical labour no.
The corrupt Tories are without a doubt the most hypocritical political party there has ever been
in modern times. They take corruption and hypocrisy to a unimaginable all time high.
...you should be thankful my former english teacher isn't here to read that sentence....😊
Oh O;Brian has never had a speed fine , the man is a saint
It's not about speeding, it's about the systemic hypocrisy, corruption & incompetence at the heart of this criminal government. Like Sunak, the woman is a shameless, amoral careerist & not fit to govern. Tory voters may defend & even applaud such behaviour, decent human beings do not.
She thinks ethics is a county in England.
What a load of tosh.
Do we really want to spend time talking about a minister who got caught speeding, took the points and paid the fine?
Of all the none stories this is the biggest none story of them all.
We have become a nation of gossiping nitwits if we think this is a story.
And that Arrogance and Contempt comes from the knowledge that the Majority of people in this country will continue to allow them that Contempt and Arrogance they have for us .
Just shows how weak Sunak is by refusing to sack her. Never known such an appalling Minister.
This toxic Braverman creature has an unrivalled talent for spreading sweetness and light wherever she goes...
The only reason that I can see for keeping her in post is to go back to Lyndon Johnson : however bad she may be, it’s better to have her in the tent peeing out than inside peeing in.
Love the way you say it, as it is!
Don't think for a second that Johnson gave Pincher a job despite his reputation. He give him a the job because of his reputation. Pincher then owed him. And Patel, Braverman et al are in the same, putrid boat. Their bosses bought their loyalty.
I have to agree with Mark Twain who said, Politicians and diapers should be changed often, for the same reason.
She needs to go of all the toxic Tories she is one of the worst 😡😡😡
Jan why because she wants tonstop people coming over in boats. To this already crowded country some of whom might be terrorists according to people who protect us and one case man who was deported came back on a boat and don't tell me labour are ethical when they stop murders and rapists of being deported
Labour they stink
....you need to work on your punctuation pal...
@@chatham43 go forth and multiply
Amazes me O'BRIEN STILL IN A JOB
Why because you don't like him?
You are gonna love this. I called the Met police and told them there is a terrorist on the loose. When I explained the person in charge of national security and MI5 was leaking classified documents and just got fired for it, they said "so she's been fired what's the problem", to which I answered "she's just got her job back". Needless to say I wasn't charged or even contacted again for wasting police time.
....you know james is struggling when he starts waving his right arm around for the faux outrage effect...😊
Just because you struggle to say something vaguely intelligent there's no need to take it out on James.
I just heard the NatC conference piece again
Definitely a group that belong in the 30’s!!!
the scary future of the Conservative party in my opinion. Shudders .....
From now on EVERYONE who gets a speeding ticket should call the Home office and demand to speak to an Advisor
The fact that taking it on the chin, doing the course and not thinking of putting it on expenses weren't top of the list says it all really.
Because there are different rules and laws for the ruling class. Ethics are for the poor
As are laws and taxes
This is clearly a government that is doing as it pleases. They are in power, they are the power.......Things need to change !
She’s obviously got dirt on Sunak
So everyone charged for speeding in 2022 is entitled to a refund out of Braverman's pockets 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do what we tell you we will do what we want, no change!!! Is it called corruption?
Why are MPs who break the ministerial code allowed to simply resign and then be reinstated at a later date? Surely we need to change the laws/rules. Any MP found to have broken the ministerial code should be sacked and never allowed to serve in public office ever again. I don't understand why, as a country, we put up with this behaviour lol