TRUMPET PLAYERS: DOES YOUR TRUMPET HAVE THIS COMMON PROBLEM?
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- Trumpets and other valved brass instruments commonly have issues with the alignment of their valves that prevent them from playing their best. In this video. Brett and John from Bob Reeves Brass explain some common causes on how valves become mis-aligned, how mis-aligned valves can make trumpet playing more difficult, and how Bob Reeves Brass's patented valve alignment can improve the performance of any valved brass instrument.
Instruments that we have aligned include: Bb trumpets, C trumpets, D/Eb trumpets, piccolo trumpets, cornets, flugelhorns, valve trombones, tubas, sousaphones, alto horns, bass trumpets, contra bass trumpets, flugabones, and many others.
You can learn more about the Bob Reeves Brass valve alignment here: www.bobreeves.com - Zábava
Thank you for this video guys. If you playtrumpet, you need to make an appointment to see these guys. Here are some of the few qualities that Bob Reeves shop have. They are excellent people, they take the time to help you, they go above and beyond to make sure you get what you're looking for.
Thank you so much for your kind words, Carlos. We really appreciate them!
With the right small light that can shine into the tubing and a small mirror and the right measuring tool it is really easy to do this yourself.
You also need some sets of good pads with different thickness and also thin plastic "washers" so that you can do the fine-tuning.
I always have done this myself with perfect results and never had any of the problems described in the video.
Do you have any tutorials or videos on how to do it yourself?
Everyone, and I mean everyone I know and know of that has had this done say their horn plays better. Looking forward to seeing you guys on the 16th.
Thank you so much! We look forward to seeing you soon as well!
it's easy to have a "take" on this... and of course opinions vary. But consider the decades long research and experience Bob Reeves (himself) undertook, collaborating with Bill Cardwell, Carrol Purviance, and dealing with the who's who of elite trumpet players. Bob passed all this to John and Brett. Whatever you think you know, I suggest it is very prudent to simply trust in these guys - impeccable integrity, highest standards, and "THE" knowledge. Let them dial in your gear and off you go - KS.
This makes so much sense! My 1974 Getzen Doc Severisen always felt stuffy. Very annoying. I sold it when I stopped playing due to a lip problem. I’m back at it now. I have a Getzen 700S, same stuffy feeling. I will be calling you.
I have a Getzen Eterna Doc Severinsen 900S. Purchased: 6/26/1973 for $410 (!). It is being professionally restored right now. 👍
I’m so happy with my Yamaha, John! If you’re watching this video please consider getting your horn aligned. Great service!!
This fixes vertical misalignment. What about radial or angular misalignment?
super interesting 🎺
Thank you, Piotr!
Tell me please! What should I do if the socket is cracked? The socket has gone apart( I don't know what to do........
I bought Yamaha 2330 and I noticed this when I was exploring it. I thought it shouldn’t be like that
Then there is rotational alignment and there are 4 holes in each valve and the ports that could all be off by different amounts.
Man o man thats why my horn fights me and my chops hurt...my felts been worned for a long time and my practices im struggling on daily studies I do well smh...I live in the bahamas where there is no tech on the island ever and you guys are all the way out california...what can I do???....I need help just tired of my horn at this point..I play a 72 star bach from the early 80s...I really need your help!!!
Have one ever measured the difference of sound and an air flow due 0.1mm misalignment?
I'd love to see that numbers. And I personally don't think anyone can really feel that, not talking about hearing. Our ears just not capable 😉.
Will be glad to see the proof (measured numbers) if I'm wrong.
Just to start, air flow has nothing to do with the valve alignment as the trumpet is an acoustic instrument. How the trumpet plays has to do with the vibration of the air inside. Have you seen our video about the no air flow mouthpiece we made? Misalignment of the valves causes a change in bore size entering and exiting each valve. 0.1mm or .004" on a Bb trumpet is about the smallest difference perceptive players will feel. In our experience there are certainly players that can feel and hear these differences. When the numbers start to get around .008" or 0.2mm even younger players will be able to tell a difference. As far as making recordings to compare the sound, it would be possible but very difficult to do. In differences that small it would have to be with a very controlled room and musician. The reality is that most trumpets are not out of alignment 0.1mm. Most trumpets we see are in the .010" to .040" (0.25mm to 1mm) range of misalignment, which has a significant affect on how the trumpet plays, and we commonly see misalignment numbers that are greater than that.
I have a Getzen Super Deluxe from about 1956 and I've calculated that I'd need downstroke pads of a thickness of .085" and upstrokes .0645" thick. They'd be so thin though that they wouldn't be very quiet at all. Not sure how I could increase these thicknesses
actually, the Bb trumpet is appr. 4`10" long when stretched out...
You're right, that is more accurate than what we said!
Please help 1 of my valves are not poping up it the middle one
2nd valve slide got "bumped" & its restricting the movement of the valve..it's an easy fix & the service center
My sisters trumpet doesn't quite work well, her middle valve does work its like stuck she push on it and doesn't move down
Hi guys I have a Bach Strad that I would like to do alignment on. Ive had the horn for around 18 years. The problem is that I live in Malaysia. Is it possible for me to but the components from you and get a tech here to do it for me me or even do it myself?
Hello, thank you for your comment! Unfortunately we only do alignments at our shop in California or when we are travelling on the road. We typically visit a few places in the US each year and one or two international trips as well. If you can't catch us when we are travelling, you can always ship your trumpet to us to have the alignment done.
When I first play my trumpet, the sound is good. After a little bit of playing, it feels like I can't get any air through and my notes just sound like fart. How do I fix this?
Empty spit valve ;)
Can I just order new pads for my trumpet from you guys?
You can order just the pads if we've aligned the horn already. Just replacing the pads will not align the horn and will likely make it worse.
Imagine Louis Armstrong entering this shop for a valve alignment. I mean there is some truth to misalignment playing worse but stating that replacing the pad material for yours is going to fix you up for a lifetime... Pretty sure a good cleaning makes more difference ;)
Thanks for your insightful comment. While we haven't done an alignment for Louis Armstrong, Bob did make mouthpieces for him! We're not saying that the valve alignment will solve every problem for the rest of your life. What we do see on a daily basis is players having to compensate for misaligned valves. We have done alignments for Harry James, Doc Severinsen, Arturo Sandoval, Håkan Hardenberger, among thousands of others. While we don't claim to have made any of them the musicians they are, we are proud to have worked with them and hopefully helped them along the way.
@@bobreevesbrass That's good to hear. As much as I liked the info from the video, I did think a slight relativization was in order. Seems to me too often we blame our instruments or mouthpiece, instead of going the extra mile in practice. Taking my comment as graceful as you did raises my value in your opinion though, so thanks for taking the time to come back ;)
@@ibendiben That's a great mindset to have. There are certainly players that blame everything on their equipment and ignore fundamentals. There are also players that blame everything on themselves and ignore their equipment. In our experience, the most successful players combine solid fundamentals with equipment that helps them with their musical journey.
I just sold a lemon Bach Stradivarius to a music shop.It was a 190 37 Stradivarius. It was stuffy.The horn was a new left over. It was a job to play it. It must have been valve alignment .Never buy a horn on line. Play it first.It was a 50th anniversary!
switch off the sound effects, they are really distracting and not the focus of the video!
Thanks for your feedback!
I have a bunch of horns that need a bunch of work.. just dont have a bunch of moolah so be easy on me a bunch if you can and i'll send over a bunch in for repair. deal?😀
Thanks for your comment. Feel free to contact us at the shop -- info@bobreeves.com -- and we'll be happy to consult with you about the work you need done.