Pretty much most of multi-hitting chips are OP. Slap Attack+, Double Point on any of them and they will become boss killer. In BN5, Knight Soul + DrillArm is one of the earliest accessible combos to kill bosses.
@@CabeliotCometier Proto Soul with VarSword and NeoVar is pretty damn busted as well. Proto Soul Step NeoVar DualLife (even the name of this combo seems insane lmao) is just cracked.
AirHockey folders are great for boss fights, and against DarkSoul variants, I think this is completely fair. Those guys will spam the same Gigachip 3 times and act like that's normal
Hands-down my favorite chip in the entire series. I was never really good at strategizing, meaning I really have no idea how to build a great chip folder, but chaining four air hockeys together was something even my stupid 12-year-old brain could figure out. Sure, it was cheap - but also so very satisfying to blast a chain of air hockeys right through your enemy and see their HP quickly counting down. This was at a time where I didn't even know about Super Armor yet, so I legitimately required this as a strategy to S-Rank any of the bosses.
airhockey don't need no stink'n _strategy._ Lol, in all seriousness any truely great chip folder is likely to feature that chip anyway so you're part of the way there regardless.
@@Tega0079 It makes one wonder if the devs knew that Air Hockey would be so broken that they purposely made all but one of the final bosses have virtually no floor to prevent its use (or rather abuse). The only final boss Air Hockey can be used on since its introduction is Gregar. Small wonder those viruses went extinct after BN4.
@@silverbladeslash5151 As after BN4, Airhockey was reduced to being a sort of legacy chip, by that I mean those Battle Chips from past games with the grey'd display art for the Battle Chips that don't have any additional versions after the ones you get, and that it's respectful virus being completely gone, forcing you to get them from other means, such as Higsby's bargain bin of Battle Chips if I recall correctly. It's been a very long time since I played any Battle Network game, but I plan to play them once the BN Legacy Collection releases next year
@@LegendKillerRAB My fist is the divine chip! Blossom , o fallen seed, and draw upon they hidden code!! Grant unto thee the power of the glorious 'Mother of Air Hockey'!
Nothing unbalanced about max Karma MegaMan using one Air Hockey 3 to multi-hit for obscene damage and also get a free Full Synchro without even countering.
The cool thing is Air Hockey is also pretty fun and sometimes useful, even before crazy scaling with +30's etc., it's just a good general chip that pivots well into a crazy powerful folder (Note: For some reason, it also breaks guards. No need to wait around for stoneskin enemies or get around shielding entities etc., it's an MVP)
@@Gnurklesquimp2 Air Hockey has always had the Break-Elemental type, so that explains why it goes through guards. I recently started using it more often in the Legacy Collection and I gotta say, it's so much more fun to try out every different chip and find new ways to adapt and play with what you've got.
@@ShintaTakama Yep, I often change up the folder just to see how it fares in certain places, I very often find new interactions and nuances. It's especially cool cause it's all rng, so it's nice to be able to rely on many different things Ohh yeah, I know it's got the element, I just said ''for some reason'' cause it's already so strong without that, this just makes it so convenient/consistent too
I never did until I enabled cheats to quickly grind chips. It would have taken dozens of hours to get multiple decent chip folders at different points in the game playing legit. Enable 1-shot kill on random mobs I have already defeated and now I am actually able to strategize in building my folders. I do hope for any possible sequel they make chip acquisitions much more convenient and easy. The game is more fun when you can go for different coherent builds throughout the campaign.
DS Navis utilize chips you have in your folder, and programs you have equipped on your NC. For example, If you put air shoes or fast barrier on, the dark soul navis will have them as well. This can be especially funny if you're playing blue moon, as the NC removal effect of its namesake giga chip works on them (and you if they hit you with it).
"MegaMan Battle Network is a Perfectly Balanced Game with No Exploits", says SpiffMan.EXE as he shows off a folder of nothing but AreaGrabs and AirHockeys.
I played this game when I came out at immediately spotted how broken airhoc was. What a great chip. I needed something cheap after using area grab meteors in BN3. This might even be stronger.
If you wanna break BN3 even worse, you can favorite Time Bomb with a few mem up, and then load up on dmg +20 * for the few viruses with more than 300 HP. That's how I cheese'd all of the Virus encounters to the end as a little tyke, even the Omega virus gauntlet fights fall in 3 seconds if you stay in the right row during the count down.
@@silverhetch3383 See, what I'm saying here is that double damage doesn't mean much when MetalMan just leaves. Air Hockey is effective because it stuns the enemy in place, but a Navi with super armor is effectively going to take 1 or two hits before RNGing off to some other location. This becomes more of a problem with higher level version of MetalMan, since his movement is faster.
I'm still pissed at how much post-game content is locked behind multiplayer. It's like an early glimpse at all the wacky disc-locked-content hijinks Capcom gets up to later.
You're mistaking with Battle Network 3. From Battle Network 4 onward, every opposite version exclusive chips were considered "secret" chips in your version and therefore not required for 100% In my current file of Red Sun, I have the symbols for beating the game, getting all souls, having all standard and giga chips, and defeating Bass Omega I'm just missing the symbol for Mega Chips and Program advances, and I never touched multiplayer.
@@repeekyraidcero Accurate seeing how that other critter franchise has had Smogon as its main multiplayer hub for the longest time, and the fastest way of making blood feud enemies short of actual murder is trying to enjoy yourself on any competitive platform run by Smogon.
If you think this is bad, just wait till MegaMan finds out that he can actually step on the blue panels. I mean are you telling me he can't? Sword just got 10 percent better.
The absolute worst area of the game. I can excuse Dark Megaman for using the same chips in your folder, but the other dark navis being able to use them as well was plain awful
@@BeansWhoGame Aka "Pure agony." Excluding the combat, MMBN4's everything else was really bad. The stories were literally written by school children as part of the (then) 20th anniversary for Mega Man and the pacing of the game is bad even by MMBN standards. Playing through all that god-awful minigames alone shaved a couple years off my life, I swear.
@@atmosdwagon4656 BN4 was the only game where I brought the Cannon chips to the final boss because of how badly your power progressed through the story. I haven't played it in ~10 years but I still remember that.
Broh when I was kid I only used the advance program of Yoyos in BN5 in order to get the S Rank in the postgame, I never saw the air hockey potencial haha
I always remembered Air Hockey being the best chips in the game lol Not even a competition besides maybe dark chips which I was too scared of a child to use back then
The search man fight I was like "why go to menu he is a buster shot to defeat" then sees it does invisible "wow what an asshole" and yet does nothing!!
![MegaMan Battle Network 5 [BBN5]: ChinaTV vs DrugsAreBad](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SvWLe_WakVQ/mqdefault.jpg)
that area grab kill tho, truly the t-bag in mmbn series
As soon as I saw him choose the area grabs I knew the disrespect was coming lmfao
LMAOOOOO HE KILLED SEARCHMAN WITH AN AREAGRAB
Kinda like in Street Fighter when Dudley KOs and opponent with his rose taunt!
Today I learned that you can disrespect bosses in the Battle network series
@@mrtencza Or getting a Legendary Taunt Finish, the ultimate disrespect in all of fighting game history. Chou yoyuussu!
Bro that Search Man kill was foul lmao I feel like I just witnessed a hate crime
I said the same thing.. why did he gotta do my man search man like that. The buster shot would have been a much more merciful end
That deletion was foul and I’m laughing my ass off 😂😂😂
he waited for the invis to run out just to do that, legend
@@IrvinMenezes absolute legend… these are skills I wish I had when playing this game
@@ScatteredCollector TO BAD YOU CANT USE AIR HOC ON DUO!!!!!!
When dark megaman uses airhockey
"You dare use my own spells against me"
I got that reference
"And poorly, at that."
"Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch! I was there when it was written."
I think this is the first time I read a Narnia reference in this site in a video unrelated to it.
When the game said “ENEMY DELETED” they sure weren’t wrong
Lol, they probably self-deleted in humiliation.
@@NeoArashi when you try to follow up a well thought out actual funny comment.. but you forget you are dumb and not funny
It's no wonder why they say "Damn that dude got deleted!" so often nowadays.
I actually never learned to appreciate the Air Hockey Battlechip until I saw videos about how OP it really was.
There's a reason it was HEAVILY nerfed in BN5.
@@thevintagevaluesexperience4302 yet still super strong. even in bn6. I love airhockey, guardian, and super vulcan
Pretty much most of multi-hitting chips are OP. Slap Attack+, Double Point on any of them and they will become boss killer. In BN5, Knight Soul + DrillArm is one of the earliest accessible combos to kill bosses.
@@tatinh9885 for 5TP, Gyro Soul plus airspin chips makes for a disgusting combo for the entire game.
@@CabeliotCometier Proto Soul with VarSword and NeoVar is pretty damn busted as well. Proto Soul Step NeoVar DualLife (even the name of this combo seems insane lmao) is just cracked.
It’s hilarious to me that, at the end, MegaDS tries to pull the same trick right back on you, and just gets nope’d
Would've been even more hilarious if it actually worked.
Taste the pain you've inflicted upon others!
*accidentally uses the AirHoc on the middle row instead*
shit
AirHockey folders are great for boss fights, and against DarkSoul variants, I think this is completely fair. Those guys will spam the same Gigachip 3 times and act like that's normal
I mean if FireMan is allowed to use the Bass chip, I think you're allowed to use Air Hockey
@@BMazeing exactly
Hands-down my favorite chip in the entire series. I was never really good at strategizing, meaning I really have no idea how to build a great chip folder, but chaining four air hockeys together was something even my stupid 12-year-old brain could figure out. Sure, it was cheap - but also so very satisfying to blast a chain of air hockeys right through your enemy and see their HP quickly counting down. This was at a time where I didn't even know about Super Armor yet, so I legitimately required this as a strategy to S-Rank any of the bosses.
It's literally just "Haha Air Hockey go brrr."
airhockey don't need no stink'n _strategy._ Lol, in all seriousness any truely great chip folder is likely to feature that chip anyway so you're part of the way there regardless.
I absolutely loved it 🔥
@Sayee yes, its called Silver Bullet (Double Point + Atk+30 + SuperVulcan)
Favorite are the gun del sol line for obvious reasons
Yeah, Air Hockey very balanced. So balanced in fact it knocks everything else off-balance. Literally!
Until you try to use it against duo...
@@Tega0079 It makes one wonder if the devs knew that Air Hockey would be so broken that they purposely made all but one of the final bosses have virtually no floor to prevent its use (or rather abuse). The only final boss Air Hockey can be used on since its introduction is Gregar. Small wonder those viruses went extinct after BN4.
@@silverbladeslash5151 Capcom knew Air Hockey had to be stopped.
That was just epic
@@silverbladeslash5151 As after BN4, Airhockey was reduced to being a sort of legacy chip, by that I mean those Battle Chips from past games with the grey'd display art for the Battle Chips that don't have any additional versions after the ones you get, and that it's respectful virus being completely gone, forcing you to get them from other means, such as Higsby's bargain bin of Battle Chips if I recall correctly. It's been a very long time since I played any Battle Network game, but I plan to play them once the BN Legacy Collection releases next year
The poor virus family got hunted down to extinction, hence why the AirHockey chip is greyed out in the sequel.
So why was Billy family hunted?
@@zero1zerolast393 Because of MMBN1 and the electrified status it made.
@@Astrogeon Oh got, the electrified status of BN1its timer always reset when you moved...
Huh? This is MMBN4 and Air Hockey absolutely appears in MMBN5.
@@atmosdwagon4656 They meant that the virus itself is gone, and the chip is only obtained through other means.
Even Dark Mega Man knows hockey is the only move
Jeezus christ, I feel bad for RollDS. That was some hardcore bullying right there.
Still not as bad as what SearchMan DS suffered
Airhock:"Dost thou desire the power?"
That sounds like a line from Legend of Heroes Trails of Cold Steel.
Now I'm just imagining Grahf handing an Air Hockey to a villain every time he does that speech.
@@LegendKillerRAB My fist is the divine chip! Blossom , o fallen seed, and draw upon they hidden code!! Grant unto thee the power of the glorious 'Mother of Air Hockey'!
Nothing unbalanced about max Karma MegaMan using one Air Hockey 3 to multi-hit for obscene damage and also get a free Full Synchro without even countering.
thats what Duo was actually afraid of ...thats why he retreated after they showed him the Power of Full Synchro Rockman XD
@@silverhetch3383 that's why Duo doesn't stand on a fucking platform! He's a pussy in front of Air Hockey.
@@silverhetch3383 not in the anime
@Silver Hetch main reason why Dup removed the panels for his battle, just avoid being defeated easily.
AirHockey is perfectly balanced and I see no problem with it.
Signed, Duo.
4:45 I like how you paused for a second before knowing EXACTLY what you wanted to do.
I've been playing these games for years using just my favorite chips and never even bothered to think about actual Chip combos until youtube.
Same. I went for the high damage chips instead of using combos.
The cool thing is Air Hockey is also pretty fun and sometimes useful, even before crazy scaling with +30's etc., it's just a good general chip that pivots well into a crazy powerful folder
(Note: For some reason, it also breaks guards. No need to wait around for stoneskin enemies or get around shielding entities etc., it's an MVP)
@@Gnurklesquimp2 Air Hockey has always had the Break-Elemental type, so that explains why it goes through guards. I recently started using it more often in the Legacy Collection and I gotta say, it's so much more fun to try out every different chip and find new ways to adapt and play with what you've got.
@@ShintaTakama Yep, I often change up the folder just to see how it fares in certain places, I very often find new interactions and nuances. It's especially cool cause it's all rng, so it's nice to be able to rely on many different things
Ohh yeah, I know it's got the element, I just said ''for some reason'' cause it's already so strong without that, this just makes it so convenient/consistent too
I never did until I enabled cheats to quickly grind chips. It would have taken dozens of hours to get multiple decent chip folders at different points in the game playing legit.
Enable 1-shot kill on random mobs I have already defeated and now I am actually able to strategize in building my folders.
I do hope for any possible sequel they make chip acquisitions much more convenient and easy. The game is more fun when you can go for different coherent builds throughout the campaign.
To be fair, it has a weakness: Holes.
Makes it useless against Duo, Nebula Grey and Falzar.
Everyone gangsta until FireMan starts using Giga Chips
Lets not talk about how I modded my Roll's Freetournament copy to use Darkchips xD
And my friends wondered why I always ran bugged airshoes to crack my own panels.
Damn that is actually quite big brained holy hell!
As a Canadian this speaks to my soul
lol looks like im not the only one who got this randomly recommended a year late
Yuuup the algo be hitting 😂😂😂
@@apexIegends same
@@apexIegends Bro, you did Search Man dirty as fuck, the disrecpect to not even finish him with the buster, tho.
I never got it recommended. Someone on discord showed it to me.
@@NeoArashi so didn't that person on discord technically recommend it to you by showing you it?
I like how the DS navis have the custom piece that lets you live on 1hp lol
DS Navis utilize chips you have in your folder, and programs you have equipped on your NC. For example, If you put air shoes or fast barrier on, the dark soul navis will have them as well. This can be especially funny if you're playing blue moon, as the NC removal effect of its namesake giga chip works on them (and you if they hit you with it).
The virgin Dark Chips vs the Chad Air Hockey.
Bosses: "NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE AIRHOCKEY TO TRIVIALIZE THE WHOLE FIGHT! FIGHT FAIRLY!!!!"
Megaman: *"haha airhockey go brrrr"*
Also bosses: _Spam the same giga chip attack until you die._
"MegaMan Battle Network is a Perfectly Balanced Game with No Exploits", says SpiffMan.EXE as he shows off a folder of nothing but AreaGrabs and AirHockeys.
I played this game when I came out at immediately spotted how broken airhoc was. What a great chip. I needed something cheap after using area grab meteors in BN3. This might even be stronger.
Is this BN 4? Can't recognize the area
@@jesustirado7817 it’s post game so if you never did completionist stuff you wouldn’t see it
Edit: forgot to say yes it’s BN 4
If you wanna break BN3 even worse, you can favorite Time Bomb with a few mem up, and then load up on dmg +20 * for the few viruses with more than 300 HP. That's how I cheese'd all of the Virus encounters to the end as a little tyke, even the Omega virus gauntlet fights fall in 3 seconds if you stay in the right row during the count down.
AirHoc3: peace was never an option
Air Hockey + Metal Soul is the most broken thing in the game.
...WAIT, IS IT THAT BUSTED IN BLUE MOON?!
@@lynk172 the tradeoff is that Blue Moon has to deal with MetalMan's superarmor making Air Hockey less effective.
@@SerenadeURA not really, since you still do double damage by charging up the chip, so you dont need full synchro :D
@@silverhetch3383 See, what I'm saying here is that double damage doesn't mean much when MetalMan just leaves. Air Hockey is effective because it stuns the enemy in place, but a Navi with super armor is effectively going to take 1 or two hits before RNGing off to some other location. This becomes more of a problem with higher level version of MetalMan, since his movement is faster.
@@SerenadeURA I see what you mean now, but he's only one Navi, so its ok.
Sorry I mistook you talking about Metal Soul not Metal Man XD
Roll fight back ngga
FIGHT BACK
FIGHT BACK
FIGHT BACK
It's even better in blue moon considering you can double the damage output
Oh yeah. Perfectly balanced. Balanced enough to knock navis right off the board!
I'm still pissed at how much post-game content is locked behind multiplayer. It's like an early glimpse at all the wacky disc-locked-content hijinks Capcom gets up to later.
You're mistaking with Battle Network 3. From Battle Network 4 onward, every opposite version exclusive chips were considered "secret" chips in your version and therefore not required for 100%
In my current file of Red Sun, I have the symbols for beating the game, getting all souls, having all standard and giga chips, and defeating Bass Omega I'm just missing the symbol for Mega Chips and Program advances, and I never touched multiplayer.
It's meant to help you make friends.
EXE4&5 were good with that
Better than that other critter franchiss
@@repeekyraidcero Accurate seeing how that other critter franchise has had Smogon as its main multiplayer hub for the longest time, and the fastest way of making blood feud enemies short of actual murder is trying to enjoy yourself on any competitive platform run by Smogon.
I think when the battle network legacy collection comes out, multiplayer will just be a game of who has the most air hockeys in their folder
Man, didn't even realize people mid maxed this hard in mmbn.
I feel like such a casual now despite playing this game like crazy as a kid xD lol
Same
Wait until you look up Dirge's channel. The most methodical plays I've ever seen in this game.
@@sonicbhoc dirge goat
And this is without Metal Soul.
Seems like this is Red Sun.ver and Metal Soul is only available in Blue Moon.ver.
Bass/Gospel/Alpha/Nebula: I fear no Navi. But that chip... it scares me.
MegaDS : _use air hockey_
*"You dare to use my own spell against me?"*
If you think this is bad, just wait till MegaMan finds out that he can actually step on the blue panels. I mean are you telling me he can't? Sword just got 10 percent better.
When did that happen
That's just Star Force. XD
"Lock on?, who needs that sh!t lmao" **steps on a blue pannel meancingly**
The absolute worst area of the game. I can excuse Dark Megaman for using the same chips in your folder, but the other dark navis being able to use them as well was plain awful
What game is this? Played all of them and for the love of god can't remember this area
@@jesustirado7817 bn4 post game
@@jesustirado7817 Post game that requires at least three playthroughs in order to access
@@BeansWhoGame Aka "Pure agony."
Excluding the combat, MMBN4's everything else was really bad. The stories were literally written by school children as part of the (then) 20th anniversary for Mega Man and the pacing of the game is bad even by MMBN standards.
Playing through all that god-awful minigames alone shaved a couple years off my life, I swear.
@@atmosdwagon4656 BN4 was the only game where I brought the Cannon chips to the final boss because of how badly your power progressed through the story. I haven't played it in ~10 years but I still remember that.
Bass : im the incarnation of destruction
Airhoc3 : hold up my puk
I never understood why doublepoint sometimes had a bug with those energy spheres going haywire
Battle Network 4 is a bug-free video game. :)
It's an emulation issue
I'm happy that this is coming back in the Recommended feed after the release of the legacy collection
Hes just standing there...menacingly!
MegaMan has become Wayne Gretzky.
What did Searchman do yo you to deserve such disrespect, ma'am?
What didn't he do
He searched his browser history.
@@cordyn1561 oh yeah, that was too much, he overstepped his authority
he was the only one who managed to inflict damage on megaman
You guys come out with cool strategy, meanwhile i only use reflect2 and fire hit 3
and see at 5:29 we see that even the DS ai knows, to use air hockey
Wow.
This will come in handy for the legacy collection replay
pretty sure air hockey carried me through this god forsaken game
wish you could use Air Hockey vs Duo . Its almost funny how bad I was at these games growing up.
This game looks really cool. Wish I gave it a chance back in the day.
This was downright surgical 👏
Broh when I was kid I only used the advance program of Yoyos in BN5 in order to get the S Rank in the postgame, I never saw the air hockey potencial haha
I wonder why SearchMan DS didn't attack you while you were invisible. Pretty sure his aiming attack bypasses invis.
He was terrified of those metal pieces on the floor wasting his dark soul away.
Air hockey was my cheese strat for BN5 too for the 30 second S rank bosses. num soul to get the air hockey advance. worked like a charm
Thanks for the tips !!
praise the algorithm, I'm about to start a blue moon/red sun playthroughs and wasnt sure what chips to make a staple. I know this one is def going in
AirHoc3 is VIOLENCE
Air Hockey + DVD logo hitting the corner = DEATH
Bro, this vid is what introduced me to mmbn 😅
I literally blinked and missed the fight
That area grab kill was straighr up disrespectful
All of a sudden people coming back to megaman battle network :) Love to see it!
The SearchMan disrespect with the AreaGrab woooooooow!
Aaron "Cybertron" Zhang here with another VGC commentary
Roll was headbanging a little too hard there
I always remembered Air Hockey being the best chips in the game lol Not even a competition besides maybe dark chips which I was too scared of a child to use back then
I clicked without the thumbnail loading thinking this was actually about ice hockey
Air hockey, Vulcan, meteor, and drill series of chips were busted in all the games they appeared in
I remember using that as a kid
This is beautiful and so cathartic for child me
So fair. Balanced. Poised. Like actual hokey.
Air Hockey is balanced - proceeds to double point +10 super vulcan
not gonna lie, I got scared for you at 5:28 . like damn, that would've been quite the karma 😂
AirHoc is just PlantMan from 3 in disguise
So... why do people use Dark Chips again?
I'm curious what the chip folder looks like now
Did that fire man use bass!?
God I can't wait for the battle network collection
5:27 you dare to use my own spell againts me potter?
And that's why i built my folder around metal soul
How did fireman use a Bass chip?
Watching these videos reminds me that i suck at these games
Laughs in Duo Omega
Every time I see this I wonder if this is why those annoying flying enemies exist in bn5.
I love this game
Huh, I never used it and I beat the whole game, this end game gauntlet included. I never knew it was so powerful, I feel jipped now
Ah, yes, the good ol infiniflinch.
litterally you can destroy the internet with Air hockey xd is most powerfull weapon, nothing of Bass or destructive virus
I don't understand how this game works; all I know is the bosses got DUSTED.
...Ok, how much time did you spend on the bug trader to get that many copies of areagrab* !?
its very OP brlopooooo
The search man fight I was like "why go to menu he is a buster shot to defeat" then sees it does invisible "wow what an asshole" and yet does nothing!!
Air Hockey is just "GG, Shake My Hand" in chip form. 😂
Geez! Hopefully they’ll patch it in the next update! lol
Drawing all of your Hocs against Roll- Classic 👍
So did AirHockey get nerfed in Legacy Collection's multiplayer?
which game was this gauntlet a part of?
Mega Man Battle Network 4: Red Sun/Blue Moon.
Okay but can I introduce you to my buddy Drillarm from BN5?
I dunno, my buddy wood-shadow style from battle network 3 has some interesting things to say.