I modified the procedure and got amazing results. To 120 ml water, add 80 grams cream of tartar (kroger brand use). Hold at 95 C in a water bath, adding 1 gram sodium bicarbonate (kroger brand) at intervals until all cream of tartar has reacted. Decant and filter with coffee filter. Pour fluid on ceramic plate. Add 20 ml of 99% isopropyl alcohol 5 times at 10 minute intervals. Let stand under a fan for 1 hour and 30 minutes. Longer may yield larger crystals, however these were sufficient for my purposes. Yield is approximately 90 crystals, 40 of which are large (1 cm or more) and uniform. Crystals have a clear appearance.
@@barrykelly2722 Sorry for the late response, but the alcohol induced seeds to form in a controlled manner, which seemed to prevent crashing and sped up the process.
@@johnjohnson3457 no worries. Always trying to work my brain. This is really out of my area of expertise....then again, everything is out of my expertise level lol
Wow genius, thanks !! I wonder if coupled with a (broken but not fallen) securit glass it could generate enough electricity to be usable.. As this kind of glass tend to crack like a fire almost indefinitively with any heat, vibrations, mouvement in the room...
excellent! well done, please replace commercial piezzo with your material and check result like microphone or Speaker. i mean if you give voltage to material crystal the amp. current usage will be give nice result. thanks again
This type is easy for diy. But that does not make it a good piezo. Part of what makes a good piezo Is the amount of deformation thst happens for its mass in a given electric field. This piezo though works as a piezo, is not that good of a piezo.
Would you happen to know why it might go wrong? I did what you explained and have the crystals but cannot get any voltage off of it. I tried using pure water and sodium "carbonate" and still not workin!
The meachical deformation of these crystals under current are minute, to the point that a micrometer was needed to verify, and even then, that may have been a repeatability error. If you want to see this effect, quartz is your best bet.
Sweet! Can you grow a crystal between two metal plates? When using commercial audio pickups I found that diodes/leds flatten spikes from hard smacks. An opto-isolator can make a CMOS-safe switch. But those crystals use more exotic elements.
I dont know how youd get crystals to bond to a metal other than by using an electrolysis style growth like how youd do with copper and silver.. to make a crystal form on two different pieces at the same time would be super difficult to make one with a structure sound enough to bond the plates or couple the plates together.. on piezo buzzers they just use the amalgam and drop the stuff on a disc, place leads on the disc and in the material and let the crystals form but i dunno what they use in top of the disc to electromechanically isolate the material from the metal disc..
The brownish color looks like impurities in the solution. You can get better crystals if you apply a recrystallization process first. Recrystalization. 1) After filtering the solution put it on heat again to evaporate off water untill you see the first crystal forming. 2) Then chill it to almost freezing so as to get the most crystals. 3) Take all the crystals out and put in just enough heated distilled water to redissolve all the crystals you have collected. Then let the solution cool and your crystals will be much more pure than the crystals from the start. Then to get a large crystal after recrystalization. 1) taking out a good crystal you want to use as a seed crystal and put it aside. 2) Then reheat the solution along with the poor crystals untill they have disappeared add a tiny amount of water if nessesary. 3) take the solution off the heat and shortly afterwards reinsert your good crystal as the seed crystal.
Yes! Quartz crystals do have piezoelectric properties and were originally used in ultrasound devices, but were not as stable and efficient as the man made piezoelectric materials they now use.
Crushing Randomizes the electric fields generated on crystal deformation. Net effect is no significant electric field as a whole. I dont know if this will work but maybe you'd have something if it is possible to align all the crystals in a binder with an externally applied electric field of thousands of volts. And, the binder would needs to be non conductive and have a low dielectric constant.
What happens if you crush them into dust and put them in a vacuum seal bag, have metal probes in bag making contact before sealing, basically looking to get a sheet
Crushing the crystls Randomizes the electric fields generated on crystal deformation. The net effect is no significant electric field as a whole. So no. But, I dont know if this will work but maybe you'd have something if it is possible to align all the crystals in a binder with an externally applied electric field of thousands of volts. And, the binder would needs to be non conductive and have a low dielectric constant. But that's an if and I belive an unlikely if.
I believe if you let things cool down more slowly, and have patience, you'll get bigger crystals. I didn't have time or patience since this was for a school project that needed to get done, so I think I just used the fridge. A cool basement would be better. You can also try "seeding" with crystals from an already made batch. Here is a link to some very in depth info including how to make cream of tartar (I just used store bought): www.instructables.com/id/Make-Rochelle-Salt/
I googled "Soda Ash" To see where to get it LOCAL,. I had lots of stuff come up.!! Like pool- PH Lowering stuff, and some stuff to wash pools, with" and Even Baking soda.!! Is there other things that can be used for Soda Ash".????
Pile your small crystals together, douse in ethanol. Ignite the alcohol and allow it to burn down. Allow to cool and the crystal will fuse together with slightly weaker pezioelectric properties. Crystal's will also be white and ugly.
@@arkangel8709 One recope said that means LYE, which is what the old timers used to make SOAP. but use this w great caution as it can take skin off..and only drop tiny bits in at a time so it doesn't explode on you..I think I am going to make a batch this way, because I think the original recipe called for lye, more than likely.
Electric spark lighters need sufficent voltage to cause a break down in the gap. That is roughly 3000volts per milimeter. Your piezo needs to make 1500volts to spark across 0.5 millimeter. Then you need conductive plates on each side where the electric field in the crystal can electrostatic induct electrons on the plate to move.
I'm wondering if it's possible to powderize this material and imbed it into ceramic material to improve it's integrity and regularity like they do with factory made peizo. I may try as that would open a lot.of doors for my off grid setup. Currently piezo charges my phone with wind and water
@@nili8529 I have a flexible ice cream container with 8 piezo ceramic disks glued to 4 of the inner walls of the ice ream container. There is a hole drilled in the top of the container with a long dowel poking out. The dowel is attached to the floor of the container using a spring, the dowel acts as a wind vein. The dowel is connected to each of the piezos via a spring. the while thing is then setup[ in series and fed into a 24-5v regulator for charging purposes. With my current setup I have seen voltages around 21V @ 0.6A. I'm pretty sure I could charge 2-3 phones off of this at once. Runs on almost no wind. 3-4Km/h. if there is enough air movement/noise to move a blade of grass then this will work. I'm still trying to improve the design as the box I'm using could be a bit taller and I want to add some extra components like indicator lights and all that.
@@hogandromgool2062 Wow, that's interesting and the best thing is that it's working. I never got these things to work except lighting a LED lol. But I still didn't get how you're generating a charge? As we know that pressing/deforming the piezo element generates a little voltage. What is pressing the piezo? The springs? Thanks for the reply :)
Crushing the crystls Randomizes the electric fields generated on crystal deformation. The net effect is no significant electric field as a whole. So no. But, I dont know if this will work but maybe you'd have something if it is possible to align all the crystals in a binder with an externally applied electric field of thousands of volts. And, the binder would needs to be non conductive and have a low dielectric constant. But that's an if and I belive an unlikely if.
@@hogandromgool2062 Have you tried putting those crystals in a vacuum sealed jar? I am curious as to what the effect would be. Maybe drill holes thru the lid and put the wires through, sealing them with a good caulk or other sealer to stop all air from getting thru..then heat ..just curious..
A large part of what makes a piezo material a good piezo material is the amount of deformation in the material in an electric field. I'm guessing sugar doesn't deform much inside an electric field.
Both are suger , but one natural form other refined may be the chemical additives that are mixed with it for making it crystal clear, affects its crystal properties .
@@omsingharjit certainly the purity in a crystal can effects its properties. But I suspect that sugar crystals in general are not widely used as a piezo simply because the amount of deformation in a given electric field is not as greate as better piezo materials.
Marvellous I’ll be making some for my thermoacoustic resonator I have designed check it out last video on my channel i’m using a large bass speaker to harvest electrical energy maybe this will be more simplified
why real intelligent don't get enough attention on you tube 😯, there are thousands of false chenal, they just copy cat and get juicy money 😈. you deserve more sub. and attention ☺
Addis Williams, Honestly, I'm not sure. This was quite a while ago. I know it did take some time, but I don't remember how many teaspoons exactly. Sorry.
One recipe I found said that means LYE, which was used in making soap, but it is very hazzardous, can remove skin, and should only drop in a tiny bit at a time, so it doesn't explode on you and cause any harm..use w caution if u try it..
No! Piezo electric works by deforming a nondonductive crystal. The deformation moves electrons in the lattice just a little to one side. The collective effect is a measurable electric field. That field can then electrostatic induction (push/pull) on electrons in conductive plates similarly to a capacitor. When electrons in the plates are allowed to flow in a circuit, they will eventually equalize. Once the plate's field equalizes the crystal's field, there's no more voltage potential between the plates.
@@kreynolds1123 Have you tried putting some piezo in a vice to see? One video showed a guy crushing one of those lighter starters with a pair of strong pliers, and it continued to put out power afterward..
I modified the procedure and got amazing results. To 120 ml water, add 80 grams cream of tartar (kroger brand use). Hold at 95 C in a water bath, adding 1 gram sodium bicarbonate (kroger brand) at intervals until all cream of tartar has reacted. Decant and filter with coffee filter. Pour fluid on ceramic plate. Add 20 ml of 99% isopropyl alcohol 5 times at 10 minute intervals. Let stand under a fan for 1 hour and 30 minutes. Longer may yield larger crystals, however these were sufficient for my purposes. Yield is approximately 90 crystals, 40 of which are large (1 cm or more) and uniform. Crystals have a clear appearance.
To what do you attribute the 99 iso alcohol? Was this just a trial-error or from a source? Thanks.
It would be really cool and helpful if you could make a video about this.
I also want to know more.
@@barrykelly2722 Sorry for the late response, but the alcohol induced seeds to form in a controlled manner, which seemed to prevent crashing and sped up the process.
@@johnjohnson3457 no worries. Always trying to work my brain. This is really out of my area of expertise....then again, everything is out of my expertise level lol
A little bit of oregano to adjust the impedance.
One wants high impedence in the crystal. 😁
Thank you. I learnt something new today!
Nicely done!
Nice experiments and pretty useful
Fantastic good experiment and result. I really love it. Make more experiments if you know.
really very interesting and practical to produce at home, I really want to thank you for sharing your knowledge, hugs from Brazil.
Awesome video! Thank you!
Whoa! That was awesome! When you connected the two meter probes, another hand tapped the crystal.
That's some potent Brian White mix you cooked up!
Why you say that ?
just like mamma used to make
Thanks Susanna...
Wow genius, thanks !! I wonder if coupled with a (broken but not fallen) securit glass it could generate enough electricity to be usable.. As this kind of glass tend to crack like a fire almost indefinitively with any heat, vibrations, mouvement in the room...
You are amazing!
Wow, thank you!
Very nice video and intresting
wow, internet need more such knowledge :)
Hey so does it also react to sound and generate power that way
amazing thanks dear
A question please:
What is the difference between flintstone (firestone) and piezoelectric or amorph?
Super! Thank you very much!
excellent! well done, please replace commercial piezzo with your material and check result like microphone or Speaker. i mean if you give voltage to material crystal the amp. current usage will be give nice result. thanks again
This type is easy for diy. But that does not make it a good piezo.
Part of what makes a good piezo Is the amount of deformation thst happens for its mass in a given electric field. This piezo though works as a piezo, is not that good of a piezo.
Would you happen to know why it might go wrong? I did what you explained and have the crystals but cannot get any voltage off of it. I tried using pure water and sodium "carbonate" and still not workin!
Was wondering if you can show the mechanical deformations it will show with applied external voltage.
The meachical deformation of these crystals under current are minute, to the point that a micrometer was needed to verify, and even then, that may have been a repeatability error. If you want to see this effect, quartz is your best bet.
Awesome
Sweet! Can you grow a crystal between two metal plates?
When using commercial audio pickups I found that diodes/leds flatten spikes from hard smacks. An opto-isolator can make a CMOS-safe switch. But those crystals use more exotic elements.
I dont know how youd get crystals to bond to a metal other than by using an electrolysis style growth like how youd do with copper and silver.. to make a crystal form on two different pieces at the same time would be super difficult to make one with a structure sound enough to bond the plates or couple the plates together.. on piezo buzzers they just use the amalgam and drop the stuff on a disc, place leads on the disc and in the material and let the crystals form but i dunno what they use in top of the disc to electromechanically isolate the material from the metal disc..
The brownish color looks like impurities in the solution. You can get better crystals if you apply a recrystallization process first.
Recrystalization.
1) After filtering the solution put it on heat again to evaporate off water untill you see the first crystal forming.
2) Then chill it to almost freezing so as to get the most crystals.
3) Take all the crystals out and put in just enough heated distilled water to redissolve all the crystals you have collected. Then let the solution cool and your crystals will be much more pure than the crystals from the start.
Then to get a large crystal after recrystalization.
1) taking out a good crystal you want to use as a seed crystal and put it aside.
2) Then reheat the solution along with the poor crystals untill they have disappeared add a tiny amount of water if nessesary.
3) take the solution off the heat and shortly afterwards reinsert your good crystal as the seed crystal.
Thank you for your comment!
Nice! Is is the same effect of a quartz cristal?
Yes! Quartz crystals do have piezoelectric properties and were originally used in ultrasound devices, but were not as stable and efficient as the man made piezoelectric materials they now use.
Thank-you
Cool!
I've always been curious about pizo fabrics, is there such a thing?
Thanks
Does slow cooling will make larger crystal like silicon single crystal growth? You can use thermoelectric chamber at home to do that
Slow cooling may help make fewer but larger crystals. But, it would be immensely beneficial to get purer crystals first by recrystalizing.
Hi great video, would it still work if I grounded up the crystals into smaller pieces like powder?
Crushing Randomizes the electric fields generated on crystal deformation. Net effect is no significant electric field as a whole.
I dont know if this will work but maybe you'd have something if it is possible to align all the crystals in a binder with an externally applied electric field of thousands of volts. And, the binder would needs to be non conductive and have a low dielectric constant.
@@kreynolds1123 thanks for the reply
How do you change the shape?
What happens if you crush them into dust and put them in a vacuum seal bag, have metal probes in bag making contact before sealing, basically looking to get a sheet
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Crushing the crystls Randomizes the electric fields generated on crystal deformation. The net effect is no significant electric field as a whole. So no.
But, I dont know if this will work but maybe you'd have something if it is possible to align all the crystals in a binder with an externally applied electric field of thousands of volts. And, the binder would needs to be non conductive and have a low dielectric constant. But that's an if and I belive an unlikely if.
@@kreynolds1123 I think he should try it. I also think these may put out more power if slightly heated, or placed in a vacuum sealed jar.
wonder if I could turn those crystals into a bracelet. Hope they re not to fragile
Nice experiment...is there a way of getting the piezo crystals to coagulate to get larger crystals.?
I believe if you let things cool down more slowly, and have patience, you'll get bigger crystals. I didn't have time or patience since this was for a school project that needed to get done, so I think I just used the fridge. A cool basement would be better. You can also try "seeding" with crystals from an already made batch. Here is a link to some very in depth info including how to make cream of tartar (I just used store bought):
www.instructables.com/id/Make-Rochelle-Salt/
You can take the smaller crystals. Make a new batch to seed it with the smaller ones and they'll yield way better results
I googled "Soda Ash" To see where to get it LOCAL,. I had lots of stuff come up.!! Like pool- PH Lowering stuff, and some stuff to wash pools, with" and Even Baking soda.!! Is there other things that can be used for Soda Ash".????
Pile your small crystals together, douse in ethanol. Ignite the alcohol and allow it to burn down. Allow to cool and the crystal will fuse together with slightly weaker pezioelectric properties. Crystal's will also be white and ugly.
@@arkangel8709 One recope said that means LYE, which is what the old timers used to make SOAP. but use this w great caution as it can take skin off..and only drop tiny bits in at a time so it doesn't explode on you..I think I am going to make a batch this way, because I think the original recipe called for lye, more than likely.
Use a very hydrophilic container to let the mixture set in
From where i get this around me 0:35
Grocery store bro
Hello mam please answer my questions how can make piezoelectric ceramics in use lighters
Your question doesn't make any sense...
Electric spark lighters need sufficent voltage to cause a break down in the gap. That is roughly 3000volts per milimeter. Your piezo needs to make 1500volts to spark across 0.5 millimeter.
Then you need conductive plates on each side where the electric field in the crystal can electrostatic induct electrons on the plate to move.
I'm wondering if it's possible to powderize this material and imbed it into ceramic material to improve it's integrity and regularity like they do with factory made peizo. I may try as that would open a lot.of doors for my off grid setup. Currently piezo charges my phone with wind and water
Yes, ceramic will make them better, but can you please explain it more about how piezo is charging your phone?
@@nili8529 I have a flexible ice cream container with 8 piezo ceramic disks glued to 4 of the inner walls of the ice ream container. There is a hole drilled in the top of the container with a long dowel poking out. The dowel is attached to the floor of the container using a spring, the dowel acts as a wind vein.
The dowel is connected to each of the piezos via a spring. the while thing is then setup[ in series and fed into a 24-5v regulator for charging purposes.
With my current setup I have seen voltages around 21V @ 0.6A. I'm pretty sure I could charge 2-3 phones off of this at once.
Runs on almost no wind. 3-4Km/h. if there is enough air movement/noise to move a blade of grass then this will work. I'm still trying to improve the design as the box I'm using could be a bit taller and I want to add some extra components like indicator lights and all that.
@@hogandromgool2062 Wow, that's interesting and the best thing is that it's working. I never got these things to work except lighting a LED lol.
But I still didn't get how you're generating a charge? As we know that pressing/deforming the piezo element generates a little voltage.
What is pressing the piezo? The springs?
Thanks for the reply :)
Crushing the crystls Randomizes the electric fields generated on crystal deformation. The net effect is no significant electric field as a whole. So no.
But, I dont know if this will work but maybe you'd have something if it is possible to align all the crystals in a binder with an externally applied electric field of thousands of volts. And, the binder would needs to be non conductive and have a low dielectric constant. But that's an if and I belive an unlikely if.
@@hogandromgool2062 Have you tried putting those crystals in a vacuum sealed jar? I am curious as to what the effect would be. Maybe drill holes thru the lid and put the wires through, sealing them with a good caulk or other sealer to stop all air from getting thru..then heat ..just curious..
how can you make a ceramic disk with this?
I think it's a joke.
I heard that cane sugar is also pizoelectric so why not table suger ?
Because deez nutz are on your chin...
A large part of what makes a piezo material a good piezo material is the amount of deformation in the material in an electric field. I'm guessing sugar doesn't deform much inside an electric field.
Both are suger , but one natural form other refined may be the chemical additives that are mixed with it for making it crystal clear, affects its crystal properties .
@@omsingharjit certainly the purity in a crystal can effects its properties. But I suspect that sugar crystals in general are not widely used as a piezo simply because the amount of deformation in a given electric field is not as greate as better piezo materials.
@@kreynolds1123 and also fragile , water soluble as well as Hygroscopic so seems not practical
Marvellous I’ll be making some for my thermoacoustic resonator I have designed check it out last video on my channel i’m using a large bass speaker to harvest electrical energy maybe this will be more simplified
Doesn't metabisulfite perform the same function as potassium sodium tartrate? Thank you very much.
why real intelligent don't get enough attention on you tube 😯,
there are thousands of false chenal, they just copy cat and get juicy money 😈.
you deserve more sub. and attention ☺
Wow
How to produce them on large scale
I want to make a polit project on 250sq yards mam
How to check current in piezo crystal
They show how to do that in the video, were you not watching?
whats use element?
Learn English.
she's cooking my fenethely....
Is that crystals melt in water~?
Disolve..... yes
i never new baking powder did that
👏⚘⚘
How many tsp total?
Addis Williams, Honestly, I'm not sure. This was quite a while ago. I know it did take some time, but I don't remember how many teaspoons exactly. Sorry.
This is what she explained: you guide after the bubling - when NO bubling are formed anymore, then you're solution is done.
@@q12x When the solution turns CLEAR.
Where did u get those ingredients from
cute lab
Where do I find soda ash?
Is that soda caustica in Italian? If so it is an acid used to make soap
@@leventnoir9723 I did in the end :)
Sodium bicarbonate. Baking soda.
One recipe I found said that means LYE, which was used in making soap, but it is very hazzardous, can remove skin, and should only drop in a tiny bit at a time, so it doesn't explode on you and cause any harm..use w caution if u try it..
If you put a crystal under constant pressure does it provide constent current?
No!
Piezo electric works by deforming a nondonductive crystal. The deformation moves electrons in the lattice just a little to one side. The collective effect is a measurable electric field. That field can then electrostatic induction (push/pull) on electrons in conductive plates similarly to a capacitor. When electrons in the plates are allowed to flow in a circuit, they will eventually equalize. Once the plate's field equalizes the crystal's field, there's no more voltage potential between the plates.
@@kreynolds1123 Have you tried putting some piezo in a vice to see? One video showed a guy crushing one of those lighter starters with a pair of strong pliers, and it continued to put out power afterward..
Çok iyisin Susanna yeteneklerin arasında arasında güzel yemek pişirmek de var mı ? ;)
suurrre.
Are you a chemist?
A SriSri2003 are you working on Piezoelectric materials?
@@danielmasekela7091 no madam I am making a distinct science fair project.i am aspiring to be a scientist thank you for concern mam
A SriSri2003 it’s Sir not Madam. That’s actually good. I am thinking of working on this materials for my PhD project
@@danielmasekela7091 thank you sir all the best sir
Nope. I'm a diagnostic medical sonographer. This was a video for a school project. We use piezoelectric crystals in our ultrasound probes.
I wish you would contact me through email.
Jessie lets cook piezo
hello, Susanna Cruser, I am working on biosensor using piezoelectric and it is my pleasure to get benefit from your experience. my name is Jonah
In the Bible, Moses struck the Rock and water came out of it. That Rock was symbolic of Jesus Christ, the Living Water of life.
She made salt crystals, of coarse there micro electrical responses.
oF cOuRsE tHe sALt iS CoArSe
A salt of cource, but not the typical table salt (sodium chloride) most people are familiar with.
Cookin crack.
Want to get in touch with you. Please provide email or anything