Catholic Unbelief in the Eucharist
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- Well, a new Pew Research Center Survey was published this week that says that only 1 third of Catholics believe the Church’s teaching about the real presence of Jesus in Holy Communion.
Just for some context, the Church teaches, and has always taught, that when the priest prays over the gifts of bread and wine according to a certain formula, that they substantially change into the body and blood of Jesus while remaining under the appearance of bread and wine.
This is known as transubstantiation and a majority of self-proclaimed Catholics do not believe it, even though, it is central to the Catholic faith.
So, this news has had a lot of Catholic talking heads… doing what they do and talking about it, just as I’m doing now, but I haven’t come across a very satisfying diagnosis for why this problem exists… which is a problem unto itself. We aren’t going to be able to move forward in treating the problem unless we properly diagnose it and while I don’t think I have all the answers, I’d like to make some suggestions about what I think is going on.
If you want a more thorough explanation for why Catholics (as well as other Christians) should believe in the real presence in the Eucharist, please see my previous commentary on the subject: czcams.com/video/lVuHT1XdPeg/video.html
Brian, there's no such thing as 'Catholic unbelief in the Eucharist'. That's because anyone to whom refuses to believe in the Eucharist is not "Catholic" at all. Visit VaticanCatholicDOTcom to learn more or call them at (800)275-1126.
Hi Brian, there is a really good video series on Formed.org called, "Real Presence", that really helps on this as well. The one thing I remember most from it is that Jesus became the fruit of the New tree of life so we could now eat from it and Him, instead of being forbidden to do so like Adam and Eve were before getting removed from the Garden of Eden. In Christ, Andrew
@@hanskung3278 I do my best to interact in the comments, but there are more than I can respond to reasonably. Transubstantiation is a supernatural work of God. If you believe in God and a reality which transcends mere physical nature, then it's certainly not a stretch that God can and does do supernatural things. Why believe in a God that can't do God-like things?
Yes, they are both Les Pauls - a custom and a standard. I do play, but I have not kept up with it as much as I used to. My kids don't like rock music so they complain when I pull one off the wall. :)
@@hanskung3278 That assumes we know what the laws of nature are... which is a pretty big assumption. Perhaps there are deeper laws that God acts within that we do not know. Humility should compel us to admit this possibility since we know so little about the whole scope of reality. We are looking through a "glass darkly" as St. Paul says. Or if you prefer a pagan take on it, you could use Plato's cave as an analogy.
@@hanskung3278 I believe that there are laws and that nature is intelligible because it reveals the mind of an intelligence, but just because we perceive laws, doesn't mean we entirely understand them. Miracles, according to Catholic thought, are not magic or a violation of those laws, but a revelation of a law giver who understands how to manipulate them at a level that exceeds our understanding. Kant and then Hume progressed the idea that we do not have knowledge based on our observations. A million observations of the speed of light wouldn't even give us 1% of 1% of the instances of light travelling, so with such a small sample, how can we assume that we know light always travels that speed in all places and at all times. We don't. We assume it does. To assert that an infallible knowledge of a law exists based on such a tenuous degree of observation is a stretch. To say that God can't incarnate bread because it would violate laws that we claim to know is taking it even a step further.
I used to go to a Catholic school, I was one of only about 3 who was big in the faith, no one else cared, the problem is the parents, who don't teach the faith to their kids but still get baptized, making them Catholic, many children simply aren't intrested in the faith, I now go to a public school, filled with atheists. None of them know anything about the faith, yet they probably think they are "free thinkers" guy even thinks Christianity is the same thing as Judeism. Basically, parents don't instill faith in their children because they never cared about the faith. This is a problem every religion has: I call them "dead followers" people whom claim to be a religion but don't follow it at all.
But belief would be a lot easier if we had a liturgy that promoted the Holy Eucharist. The TLM does this much more effectively than does the Novus Ordo.
Totally agree
Larry Fine
just to say LARRY that you’re right on. My poor kids were given by a crooked judge physical custody -
To their mother and thus they were in and out of public schools up to four times in the same year! Their atheist mother joined a Baptist cult
Eventually my two kids requested they attend a Catholic school but when they came home there was no reinforcement of those values and morals that they were being taught and thus now thirty years later my son proclaims defiantly that he’s an atheist and my daughter a lesbian!
I honestly believe that my prayers in the rosaries during those years kept them safe and somehow God is giving them more time to think?
al meggs well being a lesbian she can't control, but hopefully one day they will become Catholic or at least Protostent.
I agree with you. Parents do not take their children's faith seriously. They stand back and hope that others will instill it in them. Religion is too important to leave the job to others. Material needs alone are not enough, spiritual needs have also to be catered to by parents.
Thanks for talking about this!!! It was hilarious when the USCCB tweeted about this, inviting everyone to help "solve the problem" like this is our issue and not decades of their mistakes. Your editing is always so beautiful, the "profane" definition is profound. It is SOOO Fascinating what you shared about your children paying attention more at Extraordinary form. Never for a moment had a hard time with this teaching once I read Ignatius & John 6, so this is a REALLYYY good perspective for me to understand!!! I'm like a rock or a machine haha the breakfast example actually describes my life really well!! But most people are more human. I definitely disagree with some of the things of more traditional Catholicism, but I completely agree that Churches with minimal art, no incense and mega church worship take the emphasis away from Jesus. I've started bringing icons and holy cards and crucifixes to Mass with me just to hold & look at, because often when I travel the church's I'll attend totally lack that sense of being holy and set apart. Having magnificent Church art along with ALLL the other Heavenly essence you talked about is an amazing start of re-catechizing everyone!!!
I remembered a Catholic speaker who shared a talk he did one time wherein he explained the Eucharist to both Catholics and non-Catholic audience. He said that after the talk, a non-Catholic approached him to ask about the Eucharist and he was pumped because he was confident that he can explain the arguments for this doctrine well. But the non-Catholic's question left him speechless because that person said, "I am convinced by everything that you said about the Real Presence but why is it that I cannot see this truth among Catholics? Because if it is indeed true that the Eucharist is Jesus, why aren't Catholics lying prostrate to worship it? I have attended mass once and I failed to see the reverence and respect that should be given to the Eucharist if you truly believe what you believe." #soveryTrue
This is very true, reason why I attend Latin mass, granted the Novus Ordo rite in my parish is not that bad compared to other parishes. . .
Because no sermon properly asserts it and explain it. Only ex Protestants turned Catholic like Scott Hahn gave a marvellous biblical explanation that was spiritually and intellectually stimulating as well as exciting.
Too true
The Eucharist is actually Jesus. I know people can't wrap their hearts around it, and yet Truth is Truth, beyond the tolerance of human belief, certainly. But we're discussing part of the mystery that is God, and the staggering event of Jesus. I sure agree we need to return to awe and devotion in contemplation of the mystical relationship of human and divine.
We've lost faith since we lost the Latin Mass.
He could have discussed the efforts by many non-believing prelates to remove the reverence from the mass.
Jesus said "this is my body". He did NOT say "this is a representation of my body".
Jesus also said "Do this in remembrance of me," not "Do this because I will literally re-enter your body every time you do this action." It's at least possible that Jesus saying "this is my body" is symbolic of an action that is meant to remind us of and point us back to the crucifixion of Jesus.
@@lionofjudah6753 I don't think it is possible, especially, taken in the context of what our Lord says in John 6. I have never heard a satisfying explanation of the John 6 in this light -- why, when Jesus says "My flesh is true food & my blood is true drink" and his followers are scandalized and leave him does he not correct their understanding? If He who can neither deceive nor be deceived spoke at that moment. And if his followers thought he was speaking literally. And if they were not willing to accept his teaching (because of Levitical law) -- then why would he not correct their understanding? It makes no sense at all.
But, if he was not speaking symbolically and if he did mean what the Catholic church claims he meant and has always through the centuries claimed he meant, then it makes perfect sense that some were scandalized by this teaching and left him because of it. And he allowed them to do so not because they misunderstood him, but because they understood him and lacked the faith to believe.
And, of course, Catholics are the first to point out that Mass is a re-presentation, in an unbloody manner, of the sacrifice of Jesus on Calvary. When the priest says Mass it is an action that *is* meant to remind us of and point us back to the crucifixion of Jesus.
@@lionofjudah6753
1. In every instance in John 6 when Jesus is questioned about His teaching on the Eucharist, He gets MORE literal each time He answers them. In fact, He changes the verb "eat" to the word "trogo" which means to "gnaw like an animal". He gets MORE literal each time He's asked about it.
2. "Do this" is the words of command of the sacrifice offered under the Old Covenant performed by the priests.
3. "Remembrance" in Scripture means for more than you understand. It doesn't mean "remember" me. It means to literally make present again. It is in the context of the Passover, which was understood by the Israelites as the original Passover was made present to them at every Passover celebration.
Exactly
@@lionofjudah6753 This is my body, this is my blood. Not this is a symbol of my body, this is a symbol of my blood. This has been done since the time of the apostles.
I was blessed to meet Jesus in 2015. It took me a while to share that and other messages, visions, visits I continue to have.
I was Baptized Catholic and attended when my mother would plead with us on the Holidays. When I went I didn't understand anything the Father spoke of so I didn't pay attention.
One of the things I asked the Lord was what church should I go to. ?
He gave me a vision that showed me alone in a Catholic church looking at a picture of Mother Mary.
I went to many churches and the one it was, was the one my mother attended, OLG.
So I determined to attend this Catholic church. Before I started attending I asked the Lord to show me where He was in this church.
(I had attended a friend's church and the Lords glory showed up when they were worshipping. A cloud came down through the ceiling, stopped right above our heads. No one else saw it, but I couldn't stop smiling and looking, it went away a bit after the preacher started talking. I asked after if they used smoke machines and they said no, they don't.)
So when I came to the Catholic church I wanted to know where He was here.
So all through Mass I was expecting the glory to show up. I kept looking around and up searching.
Then He showed up when the Father Blessed the bread and wine! Like literally His glory was in the cup and on the bread. It looked like smoke in fire shape, moving and waving. So strong like it could stop a train, but so thin I could still see through it. Immediately, I was like, I need that!!! I could not stop smiling and I could not take my eyes off the bread and wine.
After the blessing the Father put his cup down and covered it with a flat something, and turned to give the helpers their bread and wine before they go to give it to the congregation.
When the Father put the flat thing over his cup the smoke disappeared and I was like, oh.. then the glory rose through it and it looked like it was alive and moving and strong.
So I knew what Jesus spoke in the Bible, that this bread is His body and that this wine is His blood, was TRUTH.
❤❤❤❤
demons
a descent god wouldn't even WANT to be worshipped , and you would know this , if you still HAD some REAL morality left in your body , sorry to say you don't ...
a descent god wouldn't want you to EAT and DRINK his BLOOD , only a pagan god from the old days would demand sacrifices like that ,
you know that's all chrisitainty is right , the old pagan BLOOD religion in a new jacket with the SAME RITUALS , and people just GOBBLE this up like it's a piece of bread ...
i am so sorry for you , that you never will experience this life , the way it should be experienced , ON YOUR OWN , without the help of some god , which ever one it is ...
we're all gods in training , but if people sit on their ass all day praying and going to church , what have you learned ? what have people learned in over 2000+ years ? NOTHING !
nothing what so ever in all that time , from every generation , every child , every grand ma , every person that still needs to be born , is going to learn ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ,
until this complete religion debacle DIES OUT somewhere in a dark corner and be forgotten about , that's when people can be people again , which we WHERE BEFORE all this !!!
morality comes from yourself , not from some god who told you that this was wrong and that's wrong , how would YOU KNOW that it IS wrong , if YOU don't have ANY morality ?
how ?
stupid people !!!
use your brains , god dammit !!!
What a wonderful testimony and amazing gift the Lord has blessed you with. If only more people could see what you see at the consecration, this current "crisis" would sort itself out. Never stop sharing your dreams and visions with others, I pray that they will enlighten and inspire many on their spiritual journeys back to Jesus and the faith. God bless.
@@ThermaL-ty7bw Spoken like a true cynic - no solid arguments, only insults and an abundance of grammatical errors. But how very original your statement is; it's not like we haven't heard those exact talking points over and over again. But I'm sorry to disappoint you, this "religion debacle" is not going to die out and despite all the insults, abuse, persecution and death threats, we're going to persevere. The Church survived almost 2000 years worth of attacks from the outside and infiltration from within, we will hold out until Our Lord returns.
Speaking of which, that's actually something you can do in the meantime: St Paul said "If Christ is not risen then our faith is in vain" How about you undertake to prove that Jesus of Nazareth did not rise from the dead (or never existed)? I can assure you that you will not be successful.
In the meantime, I pray that you come to your senses. Take care and God bless.
@@ThermaL-ty7bw May the Lord open your eyes to His Truth. Through the same Jesus Christ, Our Lord. Amen.
You should speak with your priest about your mystical experiences and have them looked over. That is the prudent thing to do with such things. Well it does sound fine, it is a must that you have a spiritual director if you are having mystical experiences consistently.
my heart breaks at the new pew poll, "Lord have mercy on us, Master forgive our Transgressions, Holy One come to us and heal our infirmities for Your Name Sake!"
@George Nolan May God bless you, poor soul.
Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy!
Through the prayers of the theotokos o savior save us
Through the prayers of our Holy Father's Oh Lord Jesus Christ our God have mercy on us!
@Gilda Gottlieb The "Tranz" is INDEED a fairy tale Ms. G, and I am posting reasons on this thread that you will not be able to refute, so spare us all your worthless comments about Sponge Bob and company.
I feel I'm merely repeating what so many others have already said: you seem to have covered this so well. I especially loved hearing about your two-year old son's exclamation/question about the incense as prayers to our Lord - beautiful. God bless you, Brian.
Needless to say, but if the Eucharist is nothing but a piece of bread (as I unashamedly assert) then Brian is guilty of child abuse, for he is teaching his child to be an idolater.
Very well articulated Brian! I am 62 years young and remember mass before Vatican 2. Kneeling at the rail for communion, wearing a veil on my head, wearing my best clothes, Latin, no talking in church before or after mass, the priest with his back to us as we all faced the tabernacle praising God together...I could go on and on. It's painful for me to be at mass and see the totally uninvolved people in their jeans, shorts, flip flops etc. not realizing why they are there. I do believe your generation will help bring the church back to where it needs to be. I am thankful for your ministry and your obvious response to the Holy Spirit! God bless you and your family.
I totally agree.....
Brian did NOT articulate anything relevant at all my DEAR. Apparently, you are so hung up about how people dress up at Mass -- that you failed to notice he did not offer a SPECK of biblical proof, and was in fact, so full of hot air, if he were a balloon he'd pop.
Christ: “This is My Body... This is my Blood.” Very clear.
Josephine Maljar
Also, we received communion on the tongue, not feeding ourself. Lack of reverence.
I am 63 and have same memory of reverence of sacred holy mass. I now believe that Vatican ll and Novis Ordo church are COUNTERFEIT. I am seeking what is left of true church in SSPX.
From the womb to the tomb Eucharist believing catholic here. Thank you and God bless you Brian.
me too!!!
@George Nolan "enlightened 21st century". ha ha ha ha.
Who are the real dumb asses? The ones who think the 20th and 21st centuries are enlightened.
The world is dark. Jesus is the Light.
You do understand that we are human. Jesus was born from Mary's womb. Jesus was human and the very best friend we could ever hope for. He taught us. He freed us from the bondage and slavery of our thoughts. He was murdered by the Romans. The Eucharist is a pagan holiday. The sabbath is on Saturday. The Trinity is man made and meant to condemn and control people's minds. Just like the concept of corrupted humans forgiving corruption. The Bible is not a relevant source.
@@isaacsummers6402 I will never change my mind. God's blessings upon you and yours.
Beautifully put brother. What's missing is the reverence not only in the congregation but sometimes sadly even in the celebrant.
Yeah, the "gimmick priests". Just yawn. So tired of them.
Traditional Latin Mass is the answer!
I'm a fairly new convert to the Catholic Church, and it's awesome to know that Jesus Christ is truly present in Holy Communion according to 1Corinthians 10:16 and in John 6. My family which are Protestant, don't seem to understand the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist (Holy Communion), even though it's completely Biblical.
@Boscos_box Thank you
@@aljay2955 Jesus Christ died and arose, but when partaking in Holy Communion, this is a spiritual encounter, with God (Jesus Christ) He is transcendent. This is what Jesus taught overall in John chapter 6 and especially in John 6:63. Holy Communion (or the Eucharist, this means "to give thanks") is so very important, that if it's consumed in a unworthy way, judgement to that person occurs. 1Corinthians chapter 11 and verses 27-32 describes this. So the spiritual truth of Holy Communion is obvious.
@@aljay2955 Oh look, another protestant who thinks his interpretation of Scripture is infallible.....
@@aljay2955 You should take some time to read the writings of the very earliest Christians, those who lives in the 1st to 6th centuries. They don't believe what you do.
@@aljay2955 I always find it funny how Protestants who came along late to the show 1500yrs late, always think they know how things should be. Threw away 7 books of the Bible that had been in use since the time of the apostles and ignore the traditions passed down from that same time. The early church had the same mass that we have, slightly different arrangement and language but believed the same. Before the reformation every Christian was Catholic or Orthodox which is basically the same.
Brian succinctly articulates things with such clarity. Truly a gift from God. I've never known someone who communicates quite this well.
Bri's words may be "clear", but they are NOT backed up by Scripture. His enthusiasm is no more remarkable that an enthusiastic Muslim who goes ga-ga over the name of Mohammad. Now learn a lesson Eileen: Catholics like to establish a connection between eating the passover lamb in the Old Testament and eating the Lamb of God in the New Testament, regardless of how “repugnant” the thought may be (as Trent phrases it). There is indeed an “eating” connection, but they are wrong to think we ought to eat the physical anatomy of the Lord Jesus Christ in the same manner as they ate the physical anatomy of the passover lamb. Why? Because while there were no restrictions on eating the passover sacrifice, there were restrictions on eating a sin offering. In other words, Jesus was indeed a sin offering, but the passover sacrifice was NOT, so it was allowed. Only the priests were allowed to do eat the sin offering, but for everyone else, “No sin offering shall be eaten” (Leviticus 6:30). The point is, since our Savior was indeed classified as a sin offering according to Isaiah 53:10, it is absolutely off-limits to even contemplate eating his physical body parts. Therefore, Jesus was speaking metaphorically in John 6 and the Last Supper and THAT is how we should “eat” him. Care to know how we metaphorically "eat Jesus"? My always handy crystal ball informs me that you are not in the LEAST interested, and the only thing you care about is being addicted to your religion rather than being addicted to the word of God.
I don't understand why someone who does not embrace the teachings of the Catholic Church would actually call themselves a Catholic.
Sorry, I may be wrong on your site.But I am looking for details about a sect whose members believe i.a.: When they say certain magical words to wine , this wine will turn into the blood of their god, and when they do the same with cookies, these will turn into the real living body of their god and then they swallow it all, it goes through their stomach and the intestines and turns into faeces which they will then deposit in a restroom facility. Do you have any detailed knowledge about this sect and how do they call themselves?
@@annemburada6265 No knowledge of these folk.
But shouldn't you be glad that they do call themselves Catholic? If only the die-hard adherents remained in the Church, it seems the membership would dwindle by two-thirds. You could say the not-so-true believers drag down the Church, diminish its holiness, but how much less influence would the Church yield being a third of its size? How much faster would attrition occur?
Well, the way I see it, to be a partaker of the Roman religion institution one agrees with the dark evil sinful history of it. Identify as catholic please because it sure is not Christian. It is allegiance to the institution & the vatican.
I'm SO glad Brian has addressed this.
Eileen D hi 👋
I stumbled across this on Facebook. Came here just to subscribe. You’ve said what I’ve been thinking about this issue so perfectly. 👏🏼
I didn't really believe in Eucharist until I met Jesus two years ago
Tell us what happened?
@@georgepenton808 25 years watching porno ,masturbation drinking every day ,I couldn't quit I was too weak .At the end I confessed to the priest. For penance I received the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.Making a long story short I felt the presence of Jesus and he took away all my addictions in one day .Later I was looking for where I could find this presence of Jesus and I found it in the Eucharist.Now beer doesn't tests good and I don't want to watch porn anymore.I am free and I can love my wife and kids .Of course, I pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy every evening
@@Mariusz8888 Great to hear brother! Something similar happened to me too, He also healed me from this addiction and had drawn me close to Himself in process. May your faith never cease!
Maro 72...did you run into Jesus at your local shopping mall?
@@roychefets6961 He is there too 🙂
Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi.
As you worship, so you believe.
Great video!
Wow Brian, I'm glad I decided to watch. It has taken years of sloppy teaching to get us to where we are. It's time to break out the old Baltimore Catechism and go to work. Keep up the good work, I'll be watching. 😊
Weston Ward COUNCIL OF TRENT IS BEST.
It might be easier to stick with what you are familiar with but the new “Catechism of the Catholic Church” issued by JPII is very good. It is up to date and has a greater claim to authority in stating the teachings of the church. I have been reading it for the last year with a group, and despite being a cradle Catholic have been surprised by how much I have learned.
@@diarmaid0heineachain314 The CCC is good in some parts and not awful. But it's not very clear many times and leaves you confused many times. This doesn't happen as much in trent and baltimore catechisms.
@@diarmaid0heineachain314 You are correct but the people need Black and White, Right and Wrong. There is no place in today's society for any gray area. Repent! Follow the right path or spend eternity in Hell!
Thank you for this video. I am ashamed to say that until I was in college, I thought the Eucharist was just a symbol. A protestant classmate told me that Catholics were cannibals because they believed in the true presence. I told her that we were not cannibals and that it was a symbol of the last supper. This conversation bothered me, so I went to a priest to ask questions. I will NEVER forget when I went up to Father Lucatero and asked him a few questions. He looked completely shocked at the fact that I didn't know about the true presence. My parents were after all Eucharistic ministers, and members of the choir. When Father Lucatero told me that the Eucharist was in fact the Body, Blood, Soul and divinity of Christ I felt so embarrassed, so ashamed of myself. How in the world did I not know this? This changed everything!!!! I had always loved my Catholic faith, but this made me love it so much more. I felt like maybe most of the Catholics I knew might not be aware of this either because there was so much talking before Mass. There was a bass and drums in the choir. His presence demands the highest reverence and honor, but at Mass we had social hour and a rock/pop band.
I did move around a lot as a child, and had not done my first communion until 4th grade because we were never in one place long enough to be properly catechized, but I didn't remember ever being told about the true presence. I also feel that in the Hispanic community (I speak from experience) more emphasis is put on the party after the baptism, first communion, confirmation etc... If the same amount of time and effort was put into the catachesis as is to the party, we would have more devout Catholics. I sent both of my girls to Catholic school, and I made sure they understood the true presence, but for some reason , some of their classmates aren't getting it. Theses teenagers are blasting rock music in the parking lot, dropping F bombs in the foyer of the church, and going to Mass in running shorts and flip flops. Chatechesis is not only the responsibility of the church volunteers that teach CCD. It is our job as parents to do it in the home.
Brian, as usual, I appreciate what you have said here. This, not just you, the poll has got me thinking about why I am and believe what I do. Do I think it is possible, yes. Probable, most times, uncertain. I have had some great experiences surrounding receiving the Eucharist. As with most things in my life, God, The Eucharist, my Bride, friends, job, I am inclined to take things for granted. I believe for me and my life, I shall have to mindfully pray to be rid of my obstructions. It seems to be an inside job that I want to personally get past and I cannot do it alone or even with a different form of the Mass. Thank You and God Bless Brother.
Again: well said and probably the most concise diagnosis of the problem
At the very least the Communion rail needs to be brought back.
The majorities of all Catholics haven't even read the Bible. They blindly trust. Just look at all the crusades
@@isaacsummers6402 Isaac, did you know that there are four Bible readimgs at each Sunday Mass and three at each daily Mass? Did you know that if a person went to Mass every day for three years he would have heard the entire Bible being read? (Priests don't get to pick what readings they want to use; Mass Bible readings are set by the Vatican and are the same all over the world.)
The crusades were fought to keep the Moslems from taking over Europe.
That 70 people and counting can thumbs up your obnoxious comment proves there is not a thinking brain in the crowd. The most "concise diagnosis" to the problem afforded to us by Mr. H was that there should be more emphasis placed on the "ARCHITECTURE", the "FEEL OF THE ATMOSPHERE", the "DEMEANOR OF THE PEOPLE", the smell of the INCENSE and the Muuuuuuuusic, all of which, he stupidly thinks will hopefully make the doctrine of Transubstantiation more palatable to the nay-sayers. This is perhaps THEE worst "evidence" for the T word I have ever heard in my entire adult life! It shows a complete and utter lack of recourse to Scripture, effectively throwing God's word under the bus and is downright disgraceful. If this man was in a public debate platform and tried to pawn off THAT miserable apologetic to believe in T, he would be laughed off the stage with an egg on his face. Maybe a tomato as well.
@@georgepenton808 did you know the Sabbath is on Saturday..
I agree wholeheartedly. Please bring back communion rails, communion on the tongue, sacred music and incense at every Mass. Use the homily to catechize the Catholics who do not know their faith.
Ks B Incense at Mass will stop a lot of us from being able to attend Mass due to fragrance allergies that are prevalent today.
@@deborahanne9793
I’m sorry, but that’s absolutely flawed. I attend an Orthodox Church and that has never been an issue in over 2,000 years of our history.
I agree with what you say Brian. We have a new pastor, as our last pastor (very kind and much loved) passed away. I spoke with our new pastor saying that I did not understand why OUR parish did not use bells at Consecration, whereas the other parishes in the area do. He said that the last pastor was liberal and that were he to institute the bells and make other changes right away there would be people leaving our small, already struggling "at risk" parish. The pews used to be full even ten years ago, they tell me. The new pastor then confided to me that he was shocked that the wine was brought up in a glass chalice and the first thing he did was order a gold one. He said "you cannot have GLASS to hold the precious blood of our Lord Jesus Christ!" He was scandalized and i was glad to hear that. He also told me "We will bring back the bells, don't worry, but I will have to do things slowly as people get to know me." On another note, that being your argument that we do not become aware of God's presence via intellect alone or even primarily, I would agree with you. Sometimes at mass, I am feeling rather flat in affect and while paying attention, do not notice any particular reverence. Yet, when I go to receive Communion, out of the depths of my being will suddenly come an overwhelming sense of Love and reverence and gratitude and I will spontaneously cry and return to my pew, crying into my hands. It is almost as if my ego does not even "see" this response of mine, coming. It can feel like a surprise. It is my soul I believe. My soul recognizes the Presence, I believe. I am filled with gratitude that the Lord gives me these responses, sense and feeling at Mass.
Best 13 minutes I’ve spent in a long time on this serious subject. Bravo, sir.
I'm a Byzantine Catholic and the concept of communion in the hand absolutely horrifies me
TheMorbidMole I get mortified also because I don't know where the priest's hand has been
It horrifies a lot of us Roman Catholics too... imagine the situation in the average parish.
@@mikel7467 lol
Thank you! I agree! I have begun to travel the 40 minutes on Sundays to a TLM. I also try to attend a weekend Mass at my NO parish. The difference for me is that, although valid, I see Jesus as a shadow at the NO, but face-to-face (to the extent that we can here) at the TLM.
I knew I would love your words of truth again. Thank you so much for being here for us.
Brian, your clarity its appreciated.
Excellent comment sir about the extraordinary form of the mass! At an SSPX. Mass I see many little kids almost mesmerized by the
Zeal and dedication by the priest and the acolytes!
I'm Catholic since birth.
I never doubted my belief in The Eucharist, thanks to my Catholic school formation. However, when I moved to NC for my work, I found the need to be better informed in order to respond well to questions about my Catholic faith. That learning journey turned me into a Catholic apologist, which I continue to be, now through social media.
God bless your commitment to the one truth of our Catholic Church.
There's no such thing as one truth.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
Elizabeth,
Remember! There's only one God.
Therefore, there's one truth and one Church, the one Jesus founded and built on Peter.
God bless.
@@joecastillo8798 Sorry, I'm a Buddhist. I don't believe that.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
Sorry to hear that.
I hope you consider Christianity.
In the Catholic Church, founded by Christ, 2,000 years ago, we hold much evidence on our validity regarding beliefs and practices.
Have you ever seen a dead person whose body has not corrupted?
We have many of them in our Church.
Have you heard of the miracle of Buenos Aires?
Go to CZcams and see the evidence.
If you have questions, ask me.
Thank you, brother, for your healthy fellowship. It's thirst-quenching.
This subject was so on my heart today which resulted in me looking at John 6 and church reaching on it. You couldn't have said it better. There is nothing normal about the Eucharist and we cannot intellectualise it as it is beyond us. It requires that we accept this by faith. How blessed we are to be able to receive the Lord? It is truely wonderful and I can only imagine what is happening at the concecration. One day I will see it in all its glory. Great post. CK
Sorry about the first post, I wrote it before watching the whole video, and I say that since Brian mentioned the same things from the Bible. However, I am doing so again now about halfway in.
With regards to uniting with Christ during the liturgy of the Eucharist amidst all the distractions, I hear you brother. But, the Lord has helped me to mitigate that over years of praying for the grace and discipline to do so. However, I have not yet been able to fully cope with the often mechanical and fast-paced way in which both the celebrants, servants, and faithful irreverantly go through that most important part of the Mass.
The pace of speech alone makes it difficult to fully reflect on who and what we are about to enter into. The very presence of Jesus Christ's sacrificial body, blood, soul, and divinity. We need to slow down and give thanks and praise to Him and His gift, while truly and deeply discerning the body as commanded through Saint Paul.
In Christ, Andrew
That was inspiring, and woefully accurate.
Your videos are outstanding Brian, They are intelectual, well organized, well presented, and reflective of much thought and research. Good Job!
Although I always felt the modern music was out of place at mass, your expose really brought it home for me. We need that "very different" from the world environment with the holiness and focus that does make us different from the world. With 3 mid-30's sons, your online presence increases my faith for them...because you're awesome.
Amen, amen, amen.
+ O Lord, may the words of this son of your Church go forth into all the earth. +
I'm coming in as a candidate in RCIA and I continue to hear about ridiculous figures like this. I really want to help somehow.
Pray the rosary every day! And welcome by the way! We need you now more than ever.
Praise God! God bless you!
T R , God bless you on your journey. My advice is to just be the change you want to see. Always act in a way that reflects and manifests that you truly believe in Christ’s real presence, body blood soul and divinity. At all times. You will help remind the cradle Catholics what they already know but forget. Pray for fortitude and all the gifts of the Most Holy Spirit! 🙏🏼
Take a careful look at the Orthodox before you take the final step.
@@henrybn14ar I go to a Byzantine Parish whose prayers often remind me of the English translation of the TLM. We go to our Latin Rite church on weekdays or special days when we can't go to our Byzantine parish.
Praying the rosary before the mass has helped me a lot in experiencing the Eucharist. Also praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet song daily has helped a lot in my meditations about Jesus. Hope these suggestions help. 🙂
loved it man, I gotta get back into church and receive the Eucharist, been away from the church for a little too long, thank you for the video. I hope i can find one without the distractions you had mentioned. Anyone reading this, please pray for me
Totally praying for you, brother, and thrilled you're coming back!!! 💖👍🤗 Sounds like you might have missed a Sunday obligation... if you have, don't forget to go to confession first so you can be in a state of grace before you receive Jesus. To receive otherwise is the sin of sacrilege--an injury both to Jesus' Heart and your soul. You probably already know this, but given the state of catechesis this video mentions, you can never assume how much your friends might know or not know these days! Take care and welcome home!!!
Please do come back! While it is possible to find an ordinary parish Mass that will be "without distractions," you never know unless you already know the priest and the parish. For that reason, I would recommend checking out the website www.latinmassdir.org/country/us/ and seeing if there is one near where you live - because with the traditional Latin Mass today, one knows what one is getting and there will almost never be the same kind of "distractions" that Brian talks about.
I absolutely do not want to sound pushy here - but I just wanted to reiterate what AnnaMaria said - please go to Confession before you receive Our Lord, if you have missed Sunday Mass and/or are conscious of some other serious sin! What a great grace we have in this Sacrament. I will include you in my prayers this evening. God bless you!
Seperate the holy from the common. Leviticus.
Give to God what is....
When I hear about these surveys I am reminded of one of my college professors. We were discussing another professor's antipathy toward Catholics. He then mentioned that he himself was Catholic. I was a little taken aback as he was very much into yoga, mindfulness and eastern philosophy/ religions. I then asked him what parish he belonged to. He didn't seem to know what this meant. I asked if he made his first communion and if he had been confirmed. His response was, " thank God I never had to go through that". I informed him that one had to be a practicing Catholic to be a Catholic and most definitely had to have been baptized. He looked truly flustered and said, " but my mother was Catholic and she's Irish. Clearly his idea of what made one Catholic was a function of ethnicity, culture or heredity as in judaism. i.e.my mother is jewish therefore I'm a jew in spite of the fact that I'm also an atheist.
This guy would likely have responded that he was Catholic in such a survey. Perhaps survey results would be somewhat different if the surveyors delineated between practicing Catholics and those with some loose familial or ethnic connection.
Absolutely brilliant. Possibly your best commentary ever!
Brian, thanks for your continuing labor of love. Though not a big C catholic, I am an ardent and thoughtful Christian. Certainly the LORD is calling the ardent and thoughtful away from the shallow and superficial, back to the "old paths" wherein our spiritual forbearers dwelt and prospered. Thank you.
Brian, I appreciate your commentary but I think there’s a much more fundamental question at the root of these transubstantiation doubts: the authority of the Catholic Church. People go to the passages in the Bible reflecting transubstantiation and think “Yeah okay, that’s clearly Jesus’s body and blood they’re eating.” But then they attend mass, roughly 2 millennia later, and see a man who is neither Jesus nor the original apostles carrying the flames of the Holy Spirit conducting a ceremony that professes to convert bread and wine into Christ’s body and blood. The modern Catholic wonders, “does this priest really have that kind of power, just by virtue of being an ordained Catholic priest? I’m taught that I can’t just do the same ceremony myself and expect that same result, and that priest is just as human as I am, so how is this different?” THAT is the attitude the Church needs to tackle. Until it does, these doubters won’t care how reverently we present the Eucharist.
This is one of the most eloquent and persuasive video essays I've ever seen. Thank God for you, man. I'm not confirmed yet so my thoughts aren't worth much, but we shouldn't despair too much of these statistics. Catholicism has had such strong unity for so long that it's inherited in a way protestant denominational faith isn't. Up against the onslaught of modern materialist culture, which has affected every religion in the west, it's unsurprising that many people will leave the faith or become disenchanted and uninvolved. But they may still respond to surveys calling themselves Catholic.
I know lots of people like this whose parents's parents were Catholic, but raised kids who, during the 60s, were swept away by the spirit of the time and became nominally Catholic or "culturally Catholic." Catholicism is associated with ethnicity to a significant degree here in the US. Italians, Irish, Mexicans, etc. And white people especially have had a tendency to abandon faith and to disdain "organized religion" as they call it. But they're still inclined to call themselves Catholic because it's part of their cultural heritage.
I hear this from a lot of people. When I told my parents I was becoming Catholic, they told me to talk to some of their "Catholic friends." Later I find out that only a couple of these people even made first communion. They go around calling themselves Catholic but their parents didn't even get them through their first communion. Catholic parents in the 60s produced nominally Catholic kids. And I think nominally Catholic parents produce atheist kids, which is actually a blessing in disguise. I was raised an atheist by parents who were raised not with overt atheism but without any affirmation of faith either. And I meet many other young converts and catechumens who are former atheists.
It could be the end of a cycle. Right now there are so many nominally Catholic baby boomers, but their kids are mostly hyper-secular. But many of these hyper-secular kids (myself included) are desperate for tradition, rediscovering Jesus on their own, and entering his Church. So it wouldn't surprise me if many of these lukewarm cultural Catholics end up being replaced by young people with the enthusiasm of a disciple with a personal experience of being called by Jesus.
And who knows, there may be a reverse psychology element here. Raising someone within the faith may be very difficult today, when anti-Catholic messaging is coming from every angle, including TV, social media, and every level of public education. But the Catholic Church has many things on its side, particularly God and the truth. And with the growing abundance of historical evidence for the Church and apologetic material, it's easier than ever before for someone with no affiliation to follow the Spirit into the Church.
Wow! You explained that so well! Thank you and God bless!
Brian, thank you for making us aware of the findings on pew reseach, and for your continue teaching and help!!. The Eucharist is the core fundament of our Catholic Faith.
When the Jews, who took him at His word, began quarreling about the problem of offering one’s flesh, Jesus said:
Let me solemnly assure you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. He who feeds [trogon in Greek] on my flesh and drinks my blood has life eternal, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood real drink. The man who feeds [trogon] on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the Father who has life sent me and I have life because of the Father so the man who feeds [trogon] on me will have life because of me. . . (John 6:53-57)
"Baloney" to your apologetic about "trogo". In recent times, Catholic apologists have made some noise about Jesus switching from the word “eat” (esthio) to the more graphic “to chew” (trogo) in John 6:54-58. Supposing that “this is not the language of metaphor” (says RC apologist Karl Keating) they proceed as usual, coaxing us to abandon our God-given senses and imagine we are “chewing” on the physical anatomy of Jesus hiding in the Eucharist. NO!
We simply ask, why would a switch in terminology demand we conclude a literal understanding rather than a metaphorical one? Apparently, many think the word “chew” cannot be the language of metaphor because it's far more graphic or vivid than the more mundane “to eat.” The truth is, there is nothing intrinsically literal about the word “chew” that would lead us into the territory of Transubstantiation, and thus, this hypothesis is unwarranted. Catholics need to swallow their pride, and not the Eucharist, because…
A. “Esthio” is used in all of the Last Supper passages (“take and eat”, not chew).
B. By the time of John’s gospel, the Greek word for “chew” (trogo) had become synonymous with the ordinary word for “eat” (esthio). Originally, “trogo” was used of animals and conveyed chewing, or mastication. But over time, the word had gradually begun to replace the more common “to eat” (esthio). According to the Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, “John…seems to follow a usage, which generally replaces 'esthio' with 'trogo' ” (Leonhard Goppelt, Gerhard Friedrich, editor, Vol. 8, p. 236).
C. Jesus was certainly using stylistic variance here, as he did in John 21:15-17. He asks Peter three times, “Do you love me?” In the first two questions, he uses the Greek word “agapeo” for love. In the last question, he switches to “phileo”. Greek scholars have long noted that there is no essential difference between the terms and are used interchangeably. In the very same passage, he also varies his metaphors. “Tend my sheep” is used twice. “Feed my lambs” is used once. Why the switch? Once again, the simple solution is probably the best solution. Both metaphors use pastoral imagery to make the same theological point; namely, that Peter is given a pastoral responsibility for the flock. Therefore, the difference between tending sheep and feeding lambs is nothing more than a stylistic variance, rather than what the Roman church would have us believe with regard to “trogo”, namely, a theological variance. When all is said and done, the variance between “to eat” and “to chew” does not in any way imply that the object of our chewing is the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ! You are refuted.
That is so SAD.. People are influenced by modern ideology. Each year that adds , mankind slowly forget to connect to GOD.
Dear Brian, Thank you for this and your presence on CZcams. This is such a painful time to be Catholic but a Beautiful time also as we see the truth uncovered. Yes the bad but also the Truly Good. The Truly real & the revelation that if we see Jesus & taste Him we do so because we have been given the gift of Supernatural Faith. As when Jesus said to Peter "Simon son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this." The Catholic intellectual tradition is beautiful - the Catholic Aesthetic traditions are beautiful - our Catechism our Liturgies are beautiful - but in so far as they are man they are nothing. Jesus you are Everything thank you for the gift of our Catholic Faith.
This hit the nail on the head. Our experience at TLMs in our area hasn't been as we hoped, but a local Eastern Orthodox church precisely provides that sense of heaven on earth, reverence, awe, community, and it's there that my young children pay attention and it's their Divine Liturgy that has brought me and my daughter back into a relationship with Christ. We're trying to find that in our Catholic churches in spite of the commonness and disregard during most Sunday Masses. We've started attending daily Mass so they can see how we are to receive the Eucharist, as it's much more common to see reverent Catholics at daily Mass than at their "Sunday obligation".
I am orthodox christian , and when i see our brothers catholics in America and othervice i am really sad because tradicion of liturgy is key to understand Eucharistia.
Al that modern churchies with concets,guitars,.....that is a total oposite to true catholic and orthodox faith nad feeling of the presence of God.
Eucharist isn't every day , you must prepare yourself with family and local church and priest,...
Am Catholic but what I love about Orthodoxy is the beauty of their liturgy.
"are those our prayers to Jesus?" - out of the mouth of babes! (beautiful)
Knocked it out of the park again Brian. Great Video!
Thank you for making this video. I have never been able to adequately explain my frustration with modern liturgy, so I will be sharing this a lot.
There's nothing like the Extraordinary Form (TLM) of the Mass! The Traditional Latin Mass is the most reverent Mass there is.
The Eucharist IS Christ. It’s time we, the Church, start treating It so.
I had to laugh when an ad for prepackaged communion played after this amazing message but, THANK YOU for articulating something I have been struggling to explain to peers about how I feel for a long time. Love Brian's logic.
I just stared what Hong your videos and I can’t believe this.... I’m hearing you say things I have been feeling for years but had fear expressing ~
Thanks for a thoughtful vlog. I agree that there is need for liturgical reform, but I think bad liturgies are also merely a symptom of a deeper problem, a problem that is probably resulting in both the bad liturgies and the lack of belief. I don't know exactly what that deeper problem is. Perhaps it's that we really don't pray, we don't enter into the tradition of the Church, we don't really (deep down) believe that matters of Faith are consequential. We get more fired up about a football team or a TV program than we do about the Gospel of Christ. I've only ever attended Latin Mass one time, it was a low Mass on a weekday, and I was not blown away by it as some people are. And perhaps I need to give it more of a chance. Perhaps (I'm willing to admit) the problem is in me, but I'd rather just go to a reverent Novus Ordo that uses chant, incense, etc. And I'm glad that so many people find Christ in the TLM. God bless them. I just worry that emphasizing one form of the Mass over another (and I'm talking about reverent TLM versus reverent Novus Ordo, not liturgical innovation) will just lead us into a very cliquish sort of Catholicism. And I'm not saying that you're doing that, because I don't think you are. I'm just skeptical that communion rails, TLM everywhere, Gregorian chant in every Mass, etc. will be a quick fix for all of the deep-rooted problems that we have. I have people I care about who grew up going to Latin Mass in the pre-Vatican II style, Catholic school the whole bit, and they are no longer practicing Catholics. Mass is one hour a week, and 1 1/4 hours at most if you have a priest who's really taking his time. But an hour a week, no matter how reverently its done, is not going to cut it if people never engage with the Bible, sacred tradition of the Church, or with prayer on any other day of the week. There are other questions to ask: Do Catholic families pray together? Do parents really catechize their children? Does anybody evangelize anymore? It's hard to know which way the causation lies, but it could be that BECAUSE people stopped coming to Mass, priests naively thought that making Mass more of a show would draw them back in. Or it could be that people stopped taking it seriously because it was too much of a show. I tend to think if you get more Catholics who are living together in intentional communities, meeting together outside of Mass, evangelizing their friends and family members, and reaching out to the poor and marginalized in their communities with the Gospel, then the liturgy will start to get better. I guess I worry about viewing liturgical reform as the quick path to holiness could be problematic because I wonder this: Let's say most of the knowledgable and plugged-in Catholics undertake a Mass exodus to the parishes who do their liturgies strictly by-the-book, leaving a greater number of progressive, fly-by-night Catholics to lead (astray?) the other parishes. Then we'll just have more of the same problem we still have, except that some parishes will get better and some may get worse. Even if the liturgy isn't what it should be, Catholics who know the tradition and who follow Christ will still be nourished by the Body & Blood of Christ. Some of us need to stay in the parishes that sing David Haas songs and have guitars, because just as bad ministers don't invalidate sacaraments (c.f. Augustine vs. the Donatists), poorly executed liturgies don't invalidate the sacraments either (provided proper form and matter are used for performing the sacraments). But we have to recapture our identity as baptized, adopted children of God through Jesus Christ, members of the Body of Christ, as warrior in His Army, before we can do any of these things. Being precedes doing.
The core of our belief . I like going to Daily mass whenever i can .
Beautifully said! I am fortunate to attend the TLM and experience the beauty and reverence of the mass each week! 🙏
Thank you for this video. They are missing the perfect gift. Keep learning more about your faith. Read, study, pray . Go to Adoration. You will feel wonderful presence. I don’t know what I would do without the Eucharist.
Even most Protestants believe Jesus is present in the Eucharist. Where the Catholic Church differs is in pronouncing an unfounded doctrine that the bread and wine actually become the physical body and blood of Jesus. Truth is that when Jesus said "this is My body" and "this is My blood" at the Last Supper, He was speaking metaphorically.
What is the evidence that He was merely speaking metaphorically? What would such a metaphor mean? How do we reconcile a purely metaphorical interpretation with the sixth chapter of the Gospel of St. John?
Joseph Van Zandt
Jesus said My flesh is REAL food. At that many disciples left. He didn't chase after them saying I'm only speaking metaphorically but doubled down saying Verily, Truly, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man you have no life in you. Then asked Peter if he'll leave too.
John 6:52,53.
Jesus equated his flesh of the consecrated Host with his flesh on the cross. John 6:51. If the flesh of the consecrated Host is metaphorical so is the flesh on the cross. Both are physical. The substance of the bread became the body of Christ. The appearance remains the same. Christ said This IS my body. He didn't say This represents my body. You go ahead and tell Christ You don't mean what You say. Good luck with that.
Crypto Traddy
Go back and read my comment. I said the substance changes into the body and blood of Christ while the appearance remains the same.
I believe in real presence.
It's not a choice. Christ the King commanded it.
Priest facing the people, communion in the hand, and mass in the vernacular are the top three reasons I have found as a satisfying diagnosis. From those 3 reasons , intellect and reason have a hard time believing in the true presence. Also from those 3 reasons things become more casual such as in the way we present it through liturgy, so then that irreverence bleeds into catechism and belief as a whole.
I have found taking my family to the traditional Latin mass has been a beautiful remedy. Our love for Christ and our faith has increased. Our spiritual life has deepened, and our love for Our Holy Mother Church has grown. We will always go to the TLM now.
Instead of trying to fix the new mass to make it more reverent, etc we should look back at the mass St. Padre Pio said. We already had a mass that had all the remedies to the crisis of our church, why try to bandaid the new mass when we’ve had a CURE for centuries.
We should return to the mass we’ve had for hundred of years. It has all the solutions already in it, so many saints said that mass, etc
This was great. You've articulated what I've been thinking for years. Thanks.
I would like to know if they have read the Bread of Life Discourse and fully understand that when Jesus said, "This is my body and blood and unless you eat and drink of it you have no life within you", that is when so many people stopped following Him and left. They knew exactly what Jesus meant, the word for eat was trogane (sp?) which meant to gnaw. Jesus even asked the apostles if they were going to leave Him too and they replied that there was no one else to go to since He had the words of everlasting life.
I bring all that up because in this day and age of finding it difficult at times to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, no one should have difficulty following Jesus through the Bible. However, if they question that and Jesus as well, then they are not yet born again Catholics and adopted sons and daughters of the Most High. Read your Bibles people and place your faith in Christ where it belongs! God love you all, Andrew
Andrew : Have you noticed that the verse where disciples leave Jésus is Jn 6, 66. = the number of the beast the 666. What a coincidence!
@@TheBenwarwa I highly doubt it's a coincidence, but I do thank you for bringing it up. I was not aware of it at all. God bless
There is no such thing as a "Born again " Roman catholic, Andrew...😫😫😫
@@lcringo3498 Then none of us are saved by the blood of Jesus for it is written that we must be born again of the Spirit to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Refer to the conversation between Nicodemus and Jesus. In Christ, Andrew
@@Ezekiel336-16 I'm familiar with the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus, Andrew. The problem with Roman Catholicism is that your religious system/institution ritualized the concept of being "Born Again/From Above" and consequently it has no efficacious meaning in your religious system. The idea that Roman Catholics think that an infant is born again simply because he/she got wet is ludicrous on its face; I would remind you that Nicodemus was a fully grown man, and he failed to grasp what Jesus meant. Again, I myself have NEVER met a Born-again Roman Catholic, and frankly I don't think that they even exist, so...But that's just me---PEACE IN CHRIST JESUS!! 🙂🙂🙂
I have a feeling most of the people who DO believe in the Eucharist are either ex-protestants OR Catholics who came back to the faith after being away because they didn't even know it was more than a symbol, like me.
Or Catholics who were actually taught the Faith in detail.
@@ToxicPea I'm sorry I've never met anyone (cradle Catholic) like that so it is hard to believe they actually exist.
@@erinelizabethleroux I'm 15th, and I was, am, and will always be a Catholic. 'Nuff said.
The only ones I've found were raised in the TLM. They usually have some crazy catacomb stories.
@@RandaEd woah. Crazy.
Well said, once again the best video on the topic.
This is fantastic Brian. Should be required viewing for all clergy.
George Nolan Hahah rock-solid critique you’ve got there, George! Have a blessed day of our Lord.
If you look at the actual numbers the less ppl attended mass the less they believed in the Eucharist....🤔seems like a pattern
I'd be suprised if more than a third of catholic priests believe in the true presence.
I believed in the Real Presence intellectually all my life but never in my bones. What I mean by this is my belief didn't guide my actions.
Things changed when I read Dr. John Bergsma's "New Testament Basics for Catholics." The chapter on St. John's Gospel explains how, looked at from one perspective, it is about the seven sacraments (The Gospel has seven signs). I finished either the book or that chapter on New Year's Eve and went for Adoration that night. During Adoration, I had that moment where I just knew I was looking at Jesus and the experience was very emotional for me. After that how I approach the Eucharist has changed. Not much has changed around me. I'm part of the choir and we don't have traditional music because none of us know it, none of us are trained musicians and there's no one to teach us. I play the guitar and love to be replaced by an organist, but we don't have anyone who know how to. We do choose hymns from the hymnal published by the archdiocese.
However, my perspective of the Eucharist has changed and that happened because God reached down to me in His mercy. This experience reminds me of what Matt Leonard says in the video series "The Bible and the Sacraments" - "Word leads to sacrament." My perspective changed after I read the theology in Dr. Bergsma's book. So catechises does have a major role here.
Having said that, maybe I'd believe in the Real Presence if the liturgy was done right. But most places it isn't. And that won't change in an instant. But God worked around that problem for me. He can do that for others too. So I'd say, pray that God does so. Maybe my perspective changed in answer to someone's prayers too.
Ashwith Rego ❤️
You do not need a musical instrument to sing traditional Catholic music. Start with the simple Latin chants for the ordinary and build up from there. There is a huge amount of material on the internet, including copyright-free scores. It is worth learning how to read Gregorian Chant four-line notation which is easier to sing from once you have learned how it works.
Christ is really present at the Eucharist. This is not a symbol. However, unless you can find a parish where the Tridentine Mass is celebrated without fail every Sunday and feast day, the time will come when you will be dissatisfied with Catholic liturgy, and when that happens, you could try taking a look at the Orthodox, if there is a parish in your vicinity.
I love this. Thank you for posting it
If you want Catholics to take the Eucharist more seriously, make sure the Chalice is offered to them in accordance with Christ's command.
Christ's command was to the Apostles, who were bishops.
If it is a Chalice, it would be ok. If it is a salad bowl, no.
@@habituallinestepper9879 So Christ changed from commanding all the faithful to "Take, eat" to just commanding the Apostles to "Take, drink" in the same breath?
A salad bowl can't make the Eucharist more serious, in any way. But, let's say it is a Chalice (a true Chalice). The idea that maybe you should add "a Chalice" to manage to convince someone about the Real Presence... Well, this is part of the same ideology which brought Catholics to misunderstand Eucharist.
Reverence is needed, first. Not chalices (or salad bowls).
You should watch #TnT on CZcams
This is a good one man, very good
So well said. Great point; realizing the importance of the visual/physical experience, exemplified in the media, as opposed to but not in detriment to the academic argument. Is it truly possible to believe that those who implemented these changes in the liturgy were not aware of this??
I BELIEVE in the Living presence of JESUS in the Eucharist.
So tell me,"Mysterious Cynthia X...I heard that the effects of the so-called Eucharist/Mass lasts about 15 minutes...Any comment on that?? I await your reply...
@@lcringo3498 "So called Eucharist"?? Why are you bothering to ask me questions?
@@cynthiax56 Because I have the prerogative of calling this ritual what I please, because the Epistle to the Hebrews negates the Roman Catholic concept of the presumed "real prescence"....But. my mistake; obviously this question is beyond your pay grade as they say.Anyone else care to try?....I await anyone's reply. 🙂🙂🙂
@@lcringo3498 well said
Loved the “lobby of a 3-star hotel” line
Thank you Brian..again, I believe you’ve spoken to the heart of the matter and given the best explanation I’ve heard to date on this (including the clergy) We have both forms at the church I go to and the difference even in the way the laity acts and dresses is amazing. The fact alone that a great number of priestly formations and full pews should be recognized by the hierarchy instead of ignored on the most part. When you have extraordinary form (or regular form said properly) of mass being said, sacred music, Eucharist adoration and devotions to the Blessed Mother...all those things together lead to holiness because it’s divine worship and praise. Frankly, I think they ought offer this talk on the “Formed” website
Thanks Brian. Very thoughtful and insightful. Our parish priest has been with us a year now and he has been trying to implement a more Holy atmosphere and sense of sacred space. I can tell you, It is an uphill battle for him; he has taken a lot of flak from it from some parishioners.
You should do a video talking about how intolerant atheists are toward Christians.
Welcome to the Byzantine Catholic Church...it is everything you are describing in this video.
Where's the music at the end of this video from? I could listen to it all day
I think I got a better understanding of it from my social studies teacher's explanation of the various Protestant doctrines and how they differed from the standing Catholic doctrine during the Reformation than I did in the classes I took at Church.
The absolute remedy IS the traditional Latin Mass. Even the Ordinary Form, in it's most reverent expression, falls short.
The Catholic Church needs to appeal to as many kinds of believers as possible.
I humbly disagree. I believe the extraordinary form, but in the vernacular would be the best if both forms.
@@LostArchivist Latin is the language of the Church and should remain so. English isn't necessary as you don't need to know/hear everything that the priest is saying/praying. He's offering the Mass on our behalf. The only thing we need to do is to be present and to be praying. There are Lat. to Eng. translation missals you can follow if you really want to know what's going on. Participation in the Mass doesn't always mean having to respond. The altar servers/choir do that on our behalf as well.
@@jaimearviso4771 But that doesn't mean that the Church has to conform to every person's idea/taste of what makes a "good" liturgy. Up until the 1960's, the Mass was the Mass for generations upon generations of Catholics worldwide. This idea that individuals or communities should decide on what "appeals" best to them is nonsense.
@@PNWRadTrad I agree with you. But the fact of the matter is, "the Church" did conform which reflects poorly on it. Also, I wasn't giving a recommendation, I was saying that sometimes organizations will prioritize getting more converts by relaxing standards. Perhaps they are doing that for monetary purposes? Oh and Latin is a dead language, I would assume Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic would take precedent over Latin from a Biblical point of view. NOTE: Not all changes a church make is bad. I doubt changing Latin into English is going to hurt the integrity of "the Church".
We need to go back to the old ways of Catholicism
Larry fine - I keep hearing this.. but can’t possibly be true in any regard. Zero.
Why do you say that, I meant music and architecture and some tradition, ( but let the Priest face the people and speak English at some masses.
Hans kung Catholics didn't burn people at the steak, you are referring to puritans whom there is a myth about that they burned people at the steak, they actually hanged people, and no we shouldn't do that.
The Inquisition? Superstition?
@@larryfine4950 They absolutely did!
Wow! You said it exactly right. Thanks for your great commentary. Pray for all Catholics.
Thank you for this video.
I totally understand what you are talking about.
It all depends on the parish.
I have attended mass at a so many parishes in so many Countries, in so many cities.
I have seen some parishioners in some parishes drinking their coffees up to the moment they went up for communion, and I also seen some parishioners in some parishes kneeled down before receiving communion on their tongues.
As the saying goes, " tell me who your friends are and I Will tell you who you are".
If your parish and the priest present the Eucharist as just a "child play", people would take it as such.
They way parishioners in general at any given parish, carry themselves I.e. dress, talk, ...etc can increase others parishioners faith or diminish it.
Not make believe.....symbolic.
Pro- outside
Fanus- temple
I'm going to have to disagree with a lot of the people here. You have to know that the inattentive and irreverent would not stop being so if the TLM was the default setting for the Mass. In some ways they'd even be worse off, because if the liturgy is all sung, they never actually said any prayers - lex orandi, lex credendi. The men would sit there reading the Sunday papers, the grannies would mumble their rosaries all through the Mass,
The TLM community is self-selecting, of course they're going to be more reverent.
I just don't see the abuses you've shown here, and I've attended NO all my life.
I fear the solution is not in the church, but in the hearts of the people. You just don't have real belief when you live in a country where the solutions to your problems are only a matter of time or money. It won't happen until our world has collapsed around us.
I somewhat agree, maybe I've been lucky, but it's been 20 years since I've even seen a guitar at Mass, and no felt banners since the 80s. What I have seen are many previously sidelined tabernacles restored to their proper place. However, in the pews at even the best parishes, it's still way too noisy after Mass.
Not sure about this (Im not catholic but looking to convert)but I think is just the high mass that is sung and the low mass which is a everyday mass is silent or only the priest sing, and just to have a mandatory communion rail with everyone receiving our Lord on their knees and in the mouth will help a lot to emphazise the importance of the eucharist.
The problem with the NO is that its all over the place, no one celebrate it the same way, it has become in a personal expression of the priest or the parish almost, I have been in mass in Chile where I was born and in Canada now and they have all been different, here in Canada one mass was actually sung all the way with guitars I thought it was because of Easter but went another day and it was the same! the second time they had lay people handling the eucharist and chalice as if they were the priest, communion ministers I think they call it.
Pope Benedict XVI said the main cause of the current crisis was the disintegration of the liturgy, the solution must be in the church she is mother and teacher, is the church that must lead with the example, is because it practically capitulated on the cultural battle after the 60's that society went down to this degenerate and materialistic state.
@@fragwagon Absolutely - I hate the way people just chat, like it's a theatre!
Amen, to that, brother, keep up the good work!
Great insights! I am a product of a Catholic School and yet i only firmly and concretely believe the real presence when i was 30 years old. Although i am grateful that i was able to see the truth but i am sad that schools during my time was not able to and should put emphasis on this teaching. God bless you! Cathechist and apologetics should grow and be taught to our children.
The most significant video addressing a Catholic issue I've seen! Well done
Great video! Thank you!
Wow. You hit the nail on the head.
Beautiful explanation. Thank you.