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Taking The Engine Out Of An Alfasud Ti To Fix It Up! | Wheeler Dealers
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- čas přidán 1. 11. 2019
- Mike bought a little italian Alfa Romeo in a car auction but before selling it, Edd needs to check up many parts of the engine.
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We used to change the handbrake cable anytime we had the engine & box out, as a precaution!
I used to have a Alfa Sprint 1.7 QV, I miss it every day..
They’re finally realizing how much better the show was with Edd
This is not a new episode
Actually, for many of us, the show WAS Mr China.
We were often skipping past the segments where the fat one was prancing around.
Steven Piper I'm well aware it's an old episode. I'm just saying they're showing the old stuff bcuz it was better content
M no one cares for the fat bloke tbh lol
@M If you had been following what Mr Brewer has been saying about Mr China, post-WD, you'd be careful to describe Brewer as a good bloke.
He's been extremely arrogant, downright mean. The web & YT are awash with interviews where Brewer is a right prat.
Can't say anything about the new guy, I stopped watching the show as they booted China out.
Funny how in nearly all wheeler dealer video comments, everyone loves Edd and hates Mike.
I think they are both great Grease Monkeys.
A lovely Alfa sud owner now 92 is wanting to sell to an enthusiastic passionate person that can stay in touch and update him and take him for a drive when restored . Photos and updates would make it easier to part with as it's just going to deteriorate if not driven
Show should continue with just Ant and Edd, I really enjoy both of their respective ways of doing repairs
Thanks for saying that. Ant is good just too much intro and outro since the USA move.
@@rimmersbryggeri The Production comany in the states are fully to blame for the wheeler dealers decline, both Edd and Antare amazing engineers, but the idea to save cash by having more filler and less of the build is what has ruined the show for me (I don't blame mike for this either)!
@@tvandbeermakehomergo Ant might even be sligtly better at some things. His way of speaking can be annoying though. I agree it's the production format that is wrong an I do think mike is getting kind of tedious too. Especially using cockney terms in amerrica that he never used until seaon 8.
Yep Totally Agree with that idea..! Anyone who can't Say 'Something' properly ( Sumfink) is pushing the Cockney charm, a Step too far..! And I was born in The East End. And it Drives me Nuts..!!
Poop vacial
I hope Edd will have a show like this soon. The repairing part of the show was the most interesting for me.
" Edd China's Garage Revival " has a couple pilot episodes on youtube. and Edd has another new series on his Edd CHina youtube channel
one of the best cars ever made ( rust apart ) way ahead of time.
Good news, there's a fully rebuilt from the ground up jobby in Oz 😊
Stunning drive for its time .
Ich hatte drei Stück 1,2 .1,3ti u.1,5 ti und alle ohne Rost das waren sehr gute Fahrzeuge für diese Zeit an das Fahrverhalten kam kein VW heran ohne etwas zu machen am Fahrwerk sehr schade das es fast keine über lebt haben !!
I use to have an alfasud ti..now a 33..lifes settle....happy ever after...
Intriguing....
Happiness in having a 90's, or indeed, any Alfa ??
I take it you rarely drive it, then ?
To quite St.Clarkson, "This car is so beautiful, I can almost accept having to walk the last few miles of any journey I make in it...."
I love Alfas, but will be surprised if any 25 year old Alfas actually can run for more than 10 minutes at a time. Such sheer beauty, the supreme handling, the comfort in the driver's seat (crap for passengers), those smooth gear changes, the soul of those cars......and all made from tin foil....
@@thefreedomguyuk in my experience the Alfa reliability jokes aren't funny, or true.
Mine was always in the repair shop but was a pleasure to drive. How cars should feel. Went round corners in ways that defied gravity. My top 3 cars owned in preferred order 1) 911 2) R5 GT Turbo 3) Alfasud. Had a load of Golf GTi, Merc 3 Series & BMW Coupe's also worth a mention.
Sorry to hear that about your Sud being in the workshop so often fortunately for me mine it's was 100% reliable and luckily for me my supervisor was an Ex Alfa Romeo dealship mechanic and taught me everything about the up keep on the Sud , yes these little buggers handled absolutely awesomely great , used to fang mine very oftenly with 2 mates actually 6 nights a week 😁 on tight twisty stuff which was just a treat I could get the brake fluid to boil , my mates and I would pull over pop the bonnet and watch it boiling in the reservoir haha I know your probably thinking WTH but you did have to drive it like you were possessed
Surely that is CGI ??
The beautiful Sud is an extinct species, they have all turned into red oxide.
One of my favourite cars ever. I was lucky, I drove the big brother, GTV2000.
Niet te vergelijken, different cars, both very good.
You paying edd for this
I had one back in the day. They had their problems, rust etc, but a fun car to drive, good handling and that engine wanted to be revved.!
YOU COULD REV THE 1.2 TO 7800RPM.THEY NEVER PUT A REV COUNTERON THE FIRST ONE.
Did yours rust?
@@leenevin8451 Rust was a major problem with them.
Engine out to replace the cambelts? I had the heads off, engine in, on my 1.5Ti to replace the head gaskets after the main dealer replaced them with the known-to-fail original ones not the correct ones with modified flame rings. Tightening the head bolts in sequence, some from the top, some underneath, was fun. But that was 35 years ago.
Done it with a 33 with a hydraulic tappet engine. Not too bad to do. Doing it with a 16v I wouldn’t like to try!
Get Edd back for the odd guest appearance! Would be great
David Wood get Edd back. Period
Like the show but, the repair costs are understated. Anyone notice that the whole of the underbody has been sprayed with a flat black coating and the gear change linkage has also been painted ( that must cost). This paint is there to mask the obvious rust which can be seen as pitting and craters under the paint on some of the close shots. When fitting the suspension bushes, you can see the rust underneath where the paint has been knocked off. Look at the brake rotors and small brackets on the engine, that sort of rust is under that black paint . All that will come through in about 5 minutes after the supposed purchase. Seen this more and more on this show. Still, Alfa is a nice car and I like watching Edd. Pity they don’t do proper restorations but, then the numbers just wouldn’t stack up.
Unfortunately it is pronounced AlfaSood. :)
Haha my Dad had an identical Ti Green Cloverleaf when I was a baby. I recall he sold it at maybe 2 years old, weeks later it suffered an electrical fire and burnt out for it's new owner! Wasnt just rust that was a problem for these things!
Alfa used boxer engines in its smaller cars for years, the later 33's were all boxer engined too. Another interesting thing with these Ti's is that they had onboard disc brakes front and rear which was pretty unusual.
True. And Alfa have not yet eliminated those electrical gremlins. They are wonderful drives, but best selling them on when they get 2 years old. That's when they start to disintegrate.
All the alfasud range had discs all round. Inboard at front but conventionally outboard at rear as the car had a dead axle. The 33 switched to outboard discs and rear drums so the later sprints had rear drums... but every Sud had 4 discs!
I'm pleased to say my Sprint has discs all round rather than the backward step of 33 brakes!!
@@peterjennings8258 Nice to see someone still has one! We rebuilt our Sud from the ground up and now it has the duel carbies and heads off a Sprint, exhaust off a 33 and bored out with forged pistons to a bit over 1.6L. The drive to and from work are my favourite bits of the day 😁
@@davespanksalot8413 yep, mine was my first car.. bought in 1992... so have owned it for 28 years now.
A 1983 Sprint green cloverleaf. Mostly standard bar powerflex bushes and 14" speedlines that have replaced the 340 metric speedlines that my car left the factory with...although I do still have the metric wheels too!
Not a daily driver for many years bit reserved for nice days when I want to feel 17 again.
My Y reg Alfasud probably had more than its own weight of Waxoyl in its box sections, but it still rotted away, only the noisy engine masked the sound of it doing so.
Thank you for having Edd back, show is back !, I will subscribe back cause Ed's back !
I don't think Edd has come back, these are old episodes...
@@zambam3 Will unsubscribe then !
@@reloading_and_gun_channel nobody cares
@@stijnvandamme76 except the idiot who replied a year later !!!
@@stijnvandamme76 Except for the idiot who replies one year later ! :-)
My grandad bought one new in the 80's. It was an exciting car but even as a kid, I could see how bad the build quality was. The factory door mirrors were held on with self tapping screws!!!
Alfa style ☺
People skate edd off but some of the fixes hr does are quite clever improvising with home made tools not bodges but what a good mechanic does
Only concern with this is like many metal / weld repairs I always question what happens to the inside of the welded area. This would typically rust like mad. Thoughts? And no weld through primer, or way to get it inside anyway.
Yes, thought the same, and since water collects there, I would drill a drain hole in the bottom of the newly added piece.
Indeed. That's why you soon sell the car on (-;
Alex Veldhuis indeed. Drill a small hole and fill with cavity wax and seal the hole with a plug.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THEY ROTTED WAS THEY FILLED ALL THE BOX SECTIONS, WHICH DID NOT HAVE PAINT ON THEM, WITH LIQUID FOAM WHICH JUST TURNED IT INTO A SPONGE ON WHEELS PLUS THE CRAP STEEL CLIPPED IN WINDOWS WITH NO SCREEN RUBBERS .IT NEVERSTOOD A CHANCE..MY FIRST CAR WAS A 1.2L 1976 AND 2 YEARS BEFORETHAT A 1.2SE 1975 WHICH MY BROTHER IN LAW HAD FROM NEW.I ACTUALLY SAT IN A SUD IN 1975 DOING 90MPH DOWN M ONE.I OVER TIGHTENED MY BELT TENTION ROLLER WHICH EXPLODED THE BELT CAME OFF BUT ONLY HAD ONE BENT VALVE THATS ALL THE DAMAGE IT HAD. I ONCE DROVE IT 12 MILES WITH THE CLIPS OFF THE DIST CAP.IT PUSHED THE CORE PLUGS OUT ONE WINTER WHEN I HAD NOANTIFREZZ IN IT BUT EASY FIX.IT HAD A RECALL WHEN NEW ON THE CRAPHAND BRAKE CALIPERS THATS WHY THEY PUT REAR DRUMS ON THE 33TO GAIN A HANDBRAKE.IT USED OVER HEAT AFTER 12MILES TO WORKLOOKED EVERYWARE FOR THE REASON UNTIL I FOUND SUM CLOWN HADREMOVED THE THEMOSAT.I USED TO DRIVE IT WITH NO CARBON BUSHESIN THE GEAR LEVER MOUNTING BECAUSE THEY HAD PERRISEDOF ALL THE 13 ALFA'S I OWNED THE ONLY ONE THAT LET ME DOWN ON THE ROAD WAS THE ALETTA GOLDCLOVERLEAF WITH BOSCH INJECTION.BEST ALFA I HAD A 1974 ITALIAN JOB GUILIA SUPER 1600 WITH A 150HP2000 BERLINA ENGINE .I HAD A FRENCH .1.8 ALFETTA 1971 WHICH WASSTILL ON ORIGINAL RUST FREE SILLS IN 1986 AND NO RUST ROUND CLIPPED IN SCREENS.
@@JULIAN8845 yep My first car was a 1975 4 door. When it got rust under the rear window we put in a new section and filled the area around the rear window with black Silastic. It looked better and didn't rust there again. The downfall of my car was an accident repair that didn't get rust proofed. It was 13 years old when i got rid of it and I loved it.
-What I've always wondered about is why don't manufacturers place threaded holes in the block and heads along with bolt holes in the cam sprockets so that you find TDC on number one cylinder and then simply install the bolts, holding the cams and the crank in perfect position?
Ford focus has a bolt hole in block to stop crank turning at tdc. Apart from that they're the biggest pita to change belts as there's no marks on cam sprockets.
They do
@@MegaReddevil71 Not on the Porsche M28. You have to have a special tool or be very careful....
My first car 😘😘😘
How is it that an Alfa boxer sounds so sweet, yet a Subaru boxer sounds like a wheat thresher?
Carburettors. Also subjectivism.
Different exaust headers,NA with carbs vs. turbo with fuel injection.
Because the Alfa boxer is italian! Easy! Isn’t it?
The phasing of the crankshaft is different between the two engines.
The Alfa's balanced, so running smoothly. The Scooby is 'overlapping', hence runs rough.
Similar to the different sounds of an AMG V8 and a standard Merc V8. (Crossplane shaft vs Flatplane shaft)
The Alfa was Flatplane, the Scooby is Crossplane.
@@thefreedomguyuk yes hence the 'throbbing' Scooby vs the sweet Alfa boxer
didn't he say they were going to do the valve clearances too?
Early Alfas has huge problem with rusts. Those Italians were using WW2 recycled tankers for car bodies. It's a real pain.
Early in Alfa terms would be pre WW1 lol.
Also had to do with the fact that they built the cars in one factory, and then stored/transported them in open air to the paint shop.
no matter what the weather was like, so unprotected steel.. rain/snow/ice .. whatamistakatomaka
These are only metropolitan legends. Iron was new, produced by a steelworks near Naples. And was bought galvanized (only after 1974, so first three years of Alfasud was not galvanized). Rust problems were due basically to bad procedures at plant were suds were made: bad cataphoresis bath, too much time of cars is oven to dry paint, bad teaching on workers etc, ...also sabotations from trade unions...there are many documentaries here in Italy that describe this peach of history.
Anybody know what series and episode this was?
season 12 episode 12
These type of engines water cooled are now impossible to build. They would be too expensive for a 1200 cc / 1350 cc / 1500 cc. This car was largely overtaken in Italy by VW Golf 1800 GTI injection Mk I with 4 cylinder in line, more powerfull at the same price. There was non match for Alfasud. Alfa Romeo so decided to replace it with a more aerodinamic car, model 33, on the same platform and to improve engine to 1350 cc / 1500 cc / 1700 cc. But new car was low and unconfortable for tall passengers.
Bullshit about the 33.I have two 33 series 3,also I am 1.88 and I fit perfectly.My only complaint is about the tight footwell.Also,no Golf handles as good as Alfasud/Sprint/33.
Mechanically the Golf was primitive in respect to the Alfasud. Unfortunately Alfasud pre-1980 really had rust problems (everything rusted in the '70s, but the Alfasud more than others). The only problem with the 33 was that it was not a real hatchback (it had the integral rear door, but the shape mimicked a saloon) so it was less flexible than the Golf.
I read it reported at the time that Alfa's logic was an extra 20% spent on the engine didn't mean the car cost 20% more.
Interesting, how easy the water pump could be removed in the video. Normally you have to use a chisel for that job.
That engine was very well kept, so not rusted. As the block rusts, iron and aluminum get stuck together. Well done Edd, greasing where pump is fitted.
I hope Ed is getting his share of royalties.
Exactly my car. In 1991.
And expired in '95 ?? (-;
1993 German Mot is always difficult for Italian cars. My Sud had too much rust. I bought the next one and a year later a 33 ti. And than a 33 qv, a 75 limited, 156, Spider v6....... Today, we donˋ t have a modern Alfa, they are all too small for my family.
@@lieberfreialsgleich You are a man of style and of taste.
I apologise for my snide remark. I am a true Alfa lover, but saddened by their inherent corrosion issues.
Morten Kristoffersen and we drove these cars on salted roads. In summer, I prefer my 1971 Giulia
taking the engine out?
it's an alfa sud, just park it outside for a couple of rainy days and you'll find the alfasud will disintegrate leaving the engine out to be collected.
What’s so hard about cleaning under the car and using underseal?
So the auction house let you test drive it. That must be a first ever.
Where’s edd china now ??????????
Sa'ed Rayan he’s not that small, how could you lose him?
Wonder if this was the original hot hatch, not the mk 1 Golf GTI.
Simca are widely regarded for making the first "hot hatch", in the early 70's.
Early Sud's had a boot, not a hatchback as such - Only the later ones did - I'd still prefer one over a Golf any day (unless I could sell the Golf immediately and then buy 3 Sud's with the money)
I’d credit the first hot hatch to the Renault 16 TS in 1968, followed by the 16 TX in 1973.
@@chriswest4061 It was reported that designer Rudolf Hruska didn't like hatchbacks. The hatchbacks have an obvious brace between the lower wheel arches.
Edd should go back and they should work things out. The show is just not the same. It was amazing before.
Edd won't go back. And I don't blame him.
What happened to the mentioned valve adjustment? All talk and no action hmmm thrashed the hell out of mine 8,000+ rpm regularly and never had one mechanical issue , no clutch or brake issues either even with dropping the clutch at 7,000rpm occasionally , never needed a set of points either in my 3+yrs of delightful and memorable ownership , the points are dual pivoted so it avoids pitting like many single pivoted points do.mine was a pre pollution 74 model they had balls unlike the later anti-smog infested air pump models , was very lucky rust wise too mine only had rust around the windscreen which was found early and rectified quickly
Great cars with much torque
Eeerh....
The Sud was legendary for its handling. It wasn't a torque monster. The GTV had much more torque, in particular high range torque.
How do I know ? I drove them back in the day.
scusa mi potresti rispondere . ma la macchina di che annno è e che targa aveva prima. la cilindrata quanto è
Targa UK, anno fine 70 inizio 80, motore boxer 1.5 doppio carburatore 102cv credo
I'm absolutely disgusted in the comments about Mike here. I just want to watch cars getting fixed and seeing experts go about imparting their knowledge. Not interested in pithy catfights. SHAME ON YOU ALL!
Restaura il quadrifoglio con un po' di smalto verde, sei cieco??
6k? My first car I bought and still have her 👌🏁 #livenridela fb
I love Eddie China
Biltema in GB !?
Noticed that too👍
I like the UK cars better then the USA cars from this show.
My old man had one, rusty bucket of shite
Alfa sods? Hello!
Although i snub my nose at chinese made tools, i do indeed myself have a Teng set and to this day i still have not broke one socket..
06:02 Biltema
Mike buys a reck
Had no idea alfa romeo made a boxer engine, mind blown
Eeerh....That was actually exactly what Alfa was famous for, mainly having boxers from 1970 and nearly 3 decades onwards.
Alfa 33, 145 and 146 also had a boxer engine
Welding , fuel tank out , could be leathal
They spent 5797 pounds on it, but does anyone know how much they sold it on for?
They sold it for £6800, so they make a £1000 profit. Not bad of tot realise today Alfasuds do arround £10000 to £17000. Here in Holland you can pay arround €15000 for a good one. They are even rare to find here
Never hit bearings with a steel hammer. And if your good do it in the car. And some REAL rust inhabiter wouldn't go a stray
Coool
Whoever bought this car, I'd like to buy it when you're ready to move on.
Didn’t show doing the tappets
That's alright.....The 'Suds had hydraulic tappets.... You don't do such contraptions, they do themselves (-;
Later engines were hydraulic suds were adjustable
Hydraulic tappets came in later on with the 33s. Early Suds had a system with 2 cam lobes per valve, with a hole through the cam between them to pass an Allen key to turn an adjuster screw. Later Suds (like the one in the video) used shims.
It so awesome when a real person is working on a car instead of some model the producer of the show is plowing.
I always skip the chubby one, to see Ed.
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7.55 makes me not watch this. Dislike
EVERY car in the 60 ties 70ties and beginning 80ties rusted!! Volkswagen, your english "dinosaurs" and even Mercedes!! Why overwhelm Alfa romeo in particular!!? Alfasud was a very good cheap car and very well equipped! While your vauxhall had an engine the size of a box of illuminators!
they didn't rust as bad as the alfa suds.
russian steel, and the factory stored bare steel bodies outside regardless of weather , while en route to the paint shop which was separate building
6 year old Alfasud's looked like 50 year old early Porsches.
@@stijnvandamme76 The cars are made of sheet steel. All (unprotected) steel rusts it is a physical property, not just in Italy! It was only from 1985/90 that we started to use the steel sheets with zinc! This realy prtected the cars from rust. Until then all the cars were rusting. ALL! Do not go to look for the little gnat in the eye of the neighbor...
One Hell of a rust bucket .
Who fking asked you. Dip stick
@@oliveroneill1388Go cry in the corner MARY
Deal Mike Brewer , its Alfa (suud) not Alfa sad , bad pronunciations, learn Italian plz.
You probably pronounce English words as badly though.