Sikhi vs Modern Values
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- In this lecture which took place in Portsmouth in November 2013, Jagraj Singh explores the thesis that Sikhi is more advanced than the modern world. He covers topics including male vs female equality, one human race, religious focus and more.
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I love this man. He's reached out to so many with such a simple CZcams channel. He's changed and touched lives.
I miss him terribly. His videos have brought me a lot of comfort.
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From smoking weed to the place beside the parmeshwar himself thats the power of waheguru...
The Blessed Virgin Mary is an example of his first point... meanwhile kore and kouros are names given to Greek statues for women and men... and it is difficult to say praise women then call god a man...
lastly Catholicism teaches we are brides of Christ, who is God Incarnate, such that you are probably witnessing overlap in doctrine since Sikhism was created in the 15th century*
So true. I just recently discovered this channel and its been nothing short of incredible. I have already fallen in love with Sikhism. I was an agnostic and out of all the religions I have been exposed to in my life Sikhi strikes me to be the most complete, the most inclusive and the most compassionate. Jagraj Singh was such a beautiful soul, a once in a life time teacher who has opened my eyes and many others to the true path to God.
This video made explaining Sikhi to my loved ones so much easier, when I told them I wanted to go upon the path.
Unfortunately there is a lot of ignorance, (I too was ignorant until about a year ago,) about Sikhi and I'm sure most people have no idea just how advanced the thinking is within the Religion, and how it actually elevates people and is as you Jagrah says, MORE advanced than the modern world. This video sums is up very well. I am so grateful. Thank you.
-Tia from Canada
Tia Berry penji, maharaj ji has done so much kirpa on you
I was crushed and heartbroken when Jagraj passed away. I am still deeply saddened by his death. I am so glad that I can still watch his videos.
I feel so bad,that there was no one to teach,as you are doing...plain and simple....Well done for starting your channel,and hopefully people in their 20s will take knowledge from here.I appreciate your honesty and your journey towards Sikhism....Waheguru ji ka khalsa. Waheguru ji Ki fathe.
*20s* what?
I miss Jagraj Singh! He was so inspiring! I am so appreciative of this presention! This is extremely helpful!
In this video Jagraj Singh discusses the following topics:
* Male & Female Equality
* One Human Race
* Forbidden Things
* Religious Freedom
* Social Focus
* 5K's and Rehat
* Modernise Sikhi
* Aim of Sikhi
If you dont have the time to watch the video in one siting I suggest you watch 10 or 15 minutes at a time. If you have any questions please feel free to ask in the comments.
Why are u such a manlet bondu napansuk?
Are you gay bro?
@@AntiRedditSikhwhy are you always handing out your sister's hand in the comment section?
This is amazing!!! Thank you! I was an atheist… I’m falling in love with the Guru’s message and slowly getting ready to give my head… 🙏
Khalsa ji you make me so happy, I really love watching your videos. Things are crystal clear. Thank you very much.
very inspiring video.. I love the way each and every perspective of sikhi is described in easier way.. Jagraj veer ji, thank you so much for spreading basics of sikhi... generally we follow all terms of sikhi and don't know how we can relate to them in actual life... this is really inspirational and really moved me into tears... tfs.. waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh..
7 years after posting this video it still rings with so much truth.
I like to listen to him, it is a pity that a very humble person, respectful and very wise in his words, is no longer with us
I learned a lot from this talk. Thank you ! And where can I get The Basics of Sikhi t-shirt ?
Simply beautiful. After watching BoS and learning about Sikhi and my Guru's etc for so long now I watch videos like this and can understand exactly what you Jagraj Singh Ji is saying and speaking of.
The Blessed Virgin Mary is an example of his first point... meanwhile kore and kouros are names given to Greek statues for women and men... and it is difficult to say praise women then call god a man...
lastly Catholicism teaches we are brides of Christ, who is God Incarnate, such that you are probably witnessing overlap in doctrine since Sikhism was created in the 15th century*
Waheguru waheguru waheguru jio waheguru saab da pahla keray
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤❤❤🕯🕯🕯🕯💯
Waheguruji bless you with this wonderful endeavour.
Thanks veer ji 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏waheguru ji
even my grandfather's name is kaur singh
So true. Agreed. However, would be nice if it is practiced. As sadly, many treat women badly and unequally in this new so called modern age.
Great video Veerji.
Still missing Bhai jag Raj too this day : (
sikhi is really such a beautiful faith
Is this PowerPoint available anywhere - i think this presentation would be perfect in Sikh Society
Don't go we need you _/\_
We must become more like him. He will always be with us.
Superb .. Bhaji
thanks for giving this awareness
Dhan Dhan Gursikh pyaario 😊 🙏 ♥
The Sikh tenets may be advanced but ultimately it's the immediate Sikh community to any Sikh that dictate Sikhi in practice however un/orthodox. In his time The 10th Guru could have claimed to be a "Modern Sikh" for the fact that they were the evolution and progress of the lives of the 9 Gurus before them. By this example past the indiscriminate non judgemental infinite constant of the 11th Shabad Guru Ji it would be Reasonable to deduce that Sikhs like other groups of people are expected to continue evolving and progressing relative to the world around just as the Gurus did from The 1st to the 10th.
please accept a transgressional occupation by the british along with india's current formation which suppreses the formulation of the sikh paradigm contrasting sikh progress with external culture. we're definitely in a historical transition to be viewed for future years as a dharam in infant years with introspection conducted on scripture, naam and self. so there are many barriers for the dharam to progress.
Waheguru ji🙏🙏
Love all these videos! I am learning so much!.... Though I must point out... with regards to the nine "visible" doors to the body: men have "two below", but women have three! So.....I guess for ladies, it's the 11th door?
StillHuntre55 what do you mean exactly
I think he means the Chakras in our bodies which are not visible.
That's psuedo science
51:40 it sounded like nirvair khalsa jatha was there
Great video. Waheguru
Thanks 🙏
Excellent Waheguru!
jag raj brother u never made a mistake u just say like it is.
Good work bhai sahab
Very nice
Learnt so much
Veerji Tusi Akaal Chalana Kar gaye But ! Jadd Vi mai Thaudi video dekhdah I feel You are Still Alive
I have a question veer ji. I went to Hazoor sahib about a year and a half ago and one of the Gurdwara sahib, I believe it was langar Sahib(not sure though), where they didn't let the women serve the langar. My brother was allowed to serve langar, but my mom and I had to go to the back and either cook or wash the dishes. Not that I didn't wnat to wash dishes or anything, but they told me to my face that I cannot serve the langar and this has been bothering me ever since. If Mata Khivi Ji is praised for her langar seva and her kheer, why are women not allowed to serve langar in that gurdwara?
It was just that gurdwaras that didn't let me serve the langar. All the other gurdwaras I visited let anyone do langar seva.
Unfortunately many Gurdwaras, all around the world, have been infiltrated by the cancer of Punjabiism. One such symptom is this unequal treatment of women which fully goes against Gurbani and Sikh history. It is now the responsibility of each individual who has love for Sikhi to educate themselves and practice the ways of the Guru everyday. if we are prepared to make this effort deep from within our hearts, within time these injustices and unequal anti-Sikh practices will be overcome :-)
Bhenji I visited Hazoor Sahib last year there were many women sevadars in the langar hall. Maybe there would have been some other reason
becuase many people are working there and getting paid, and hazur sahib you have to know hoe to do seva properly and fast since the langar is always full but again it should be more open, we must change this
So Kaur actually means crownprince or heir.
I think its actually the second in line, so Raj Kumar = Crown Prince and Kanwar is like Prince Harry to Prince William
🙏🏼legend
have you considered updating the title song.
Would you considered listening to his talks rather than acting as his channel advisor ?
The title song as beautiful, it requires no updates
i believe that title song is from one of the Japji Sahib katha video, this lady did a simran and it's beautifull, you must watch it.
Qi-Rattan if I'm not wrong.
If we wear dastaar and we also bleach our facial hair( face) is it right?
Waheguru, please try to avoid it!
anand karaj is only between sikh man and women that's it
Are women allowed to do kirtan at Darbar Sahib like the men?
Bluelu69 yes they are allowed to do all the rituals in the Gurudwara
Paramvir Singh my comment was specifically about Harimandir Sahib (the Golden Temple), not any other place.
Yes
@@Bluelu69 yes now girls are allowed to do kirtan in shri harmandir sahib
@@komaljeet7884 I've never seen them do Kirtan or read the paath in the Sri Harmandir Sahib well not the in the middle of the section inside the Golden Temple bit.
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This talk was at Southampton, not Portsmouth FYI.
say gaal ji
Waheguru is W !
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i hav a question about the women not covering part, if the women dont have to cover up what does that mean exactly? do they not even need to dress modestly and can wear anything they want? does sggsj mahraj make any reference to this and how girls should dress, ofc it wouldnt be tot he extreme of the nikab but im sure its not right for women to dress ina volgur eay eaither when they are provoking mens attention. and also jugraj singh also says men are not some lustful animals, but they still are lustul and esepcially outiside of the gurdwara. you cant expect a women to go out at night wearing anything and assume that the men will just look away.. thats just the society we live in
Guruji says to both men and women to dress in such a way that vikaars (bad vices) dont become stronger. the tuk is something like: 'Let me never dress in such a way that causes vikaars to get stronger.'
+H K thanks, wish jugraj singh ji spoke about this aswell as not doing so may give some people the wrong idea
It is true that Gurus teachings to a Sikh are to dress modestly, but given we live in a pluralistic world where people have different norms, it would not be right for us to impose our standards on all others. In other words, we have to accept that women in current western countries will not wear modest clothes and we have to train ourselves to look away
agreed
just go through the Shabad....
Baba Hor pehnan khussi khuaar!!
jit paidai Tan periyai man meh chllai vikaar !!
The Blessed Virgin Mary is an example of his first point... meanwhile kore and kouros are names given to Greek statues for women and men... and it is difficult to say praise women then call god a man...
lastly Catholicism teaches we are brides of Christ, who is God Incarnate, such that you are probably witnessing overlap in doctrine since Sikhism was created in the 15th century*
I appreciate ur Teaching.....I love sikhs a Lot...But it feels Sad when u Criticize Hindus....
Abhishek Konda we do not criticize Hindus bro . We love Hindus. Actually we criticize some Hindu practices like our Guru critize janeo worn by Brahmins and some others traditions which are bad. And I think there is no problem
With all due respect the tradition of Sati was abolished during the British raj
Not really it's still practiced in some places.
@@samarpreetsingh1052sati is non existent today and if you believe it is still practices then no one can't stop you from imagining fiction.
Guru Amardas Ji spoke against it!!!
I don't think you should say that you can't be a "practicing homosexual" after taking amrit. that's up to the guru to decide and he never comented on that. otherwise great video!
The guru khalsa has decided that anand karaj can only be between a man and woman
H K when?
since Guru Amar Das ji married his Daughter Bibi Bhani ji to Bhai Jehta ji (Guru Ram Das ji) using Anand Sahib then Guru Ram Das ji fixed Anand karaj with the four Lavaan we know
Jasbir Kaur Villaschi where did he say it's only between a man and a woman
there has never been a gay anand karaj in over three hundred years of history is that not enough evidence that it is only between a man and woman , besides the fact that all the Guru Sahiban who married after Guru Ram das ji used Lavaan and all gursikhs .
basic of sikhi I have a question dnt take me wrong am bit confuse. I know every histroy of sikhi everything I do path. and all and am Amrit thari. I wear kirpan kada Kanga kachara and I never trimmed my kaase but from many days there is something coming in my mind that I should dedicate my life to my work. I should my work my god am confuse how I should kept my sikhi how did working hard without doing path or all. bring me close to God pllzzz rply
I think our mind and body should work and soul should wid naam (dis is meaning of bhagat bani) I don't remember the shabad
Harshveer singh memorize bank and recite as you work or listen to bani as you work
Just like anyother religion, not all sikhis practice equality. Even you suggest Mum cooks.
Your mixing religion with culture, not a big deal just assume a little no one got hurt
2:51 Man... I WISH I could find a religion that is TRULY equal and progressive. I'm learning about Sikhi and it's so dang close, but placing the value of a woman based on what she is to a man? Nope... we gotta do better. Maybe I'm being called to Sikhi to raise that message? This whole living guru through the text thing is tough for reinterpretations... no amendments possible?
I think there is miss interpretation of the those lines
So kyu manda akhiye jit jame rajan
Why call her bad when she has given birth to you, the so called pure one?
Rajan does not mean kings
raajaan here means the person claiming to be pure himself but calls women impure,
Gurbani doesn't accept worldly kings to be great
And also you have to read the while thing yourself to understand better
We must go beyond instilled beliefs and dig deep into Gurbani to understand true message
I interpreted it like in terms of DNA. man shares half DNA of mans and half of woman’s. or the fact that we are all X chromosomes at first ( we are all girls before fertilisation). That’s the thing, everyone has different interpretations.
You need God in your life
Very egotistical thing to say. Reamendments? If that's your take home message, then the problem isn't Sikhi, it's your interpretation of it. The Guru made no mistakes when he was given the divine order by God to create Sikhi. Even with the changing times it still holds up. No Sikh dreams of questioning the Guru much less considering "reamendments" and doubting Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
If u there is no caste in the names then Why do u take Hindu Upper caste King names... Just take any name
gilliqbal13 wrong , the law of the land was no arms carrying , no riding horses, no keeping of kesh (beards and moustache), no turbans allowed , no dressing in finery , no honorific names for non muslims . Guru Pita ji told us to do these things also he made Us self-sovreign under Akal Purakh by placing a turban/crown on our heads and naming us with royal titles . It has nothing to do with origins of the person .
The Lord is not a man. I am so confused on no gender, and yet God is so often referred to as a man. Very frustrating.
Why? The Father is usually the head of the house hold and protector of his children. He is also referred to as Mother very often throughout Sikhi. Very odd thing to be frustrated about
Sikhism doesn't have concept of male and female as we know it in the living world. It's a relationship. Gurus call every human a bride (men and women) to the divine to help us understand the relationship. This does not make the divine a man..the message it is communicating is that we need a relationship of love and yearning for love for the waheguru like the relationship of love between 2 souls as we know in the physical world.
God is referred to as a woman in bani specifically as a mother
Could I please be with you please
Could I please be with you
ਖਾਲਸਾ ਜੀ ਇੰਗਲਿਸ਼ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਥੋੜਾ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵੀ ਬੋਲੋ ਪ੍ਚਾਰ ਦੇ ਨਾ ਤੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਨੂੰ ਕਿਉਂ ਖਤਮ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਹੋ। ਸਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਸਭ ਨੂੰ
I really have a knee jerk disagreement, in that, anyone who follows the precepts of Immanuel, DOES ABSOLUTELY view men & women as equal.
2 things
a) the separation of DUTY of men & women in the so-called church structure may vary
b) OR the doctrines also may have been corrupted
2) slavery is a generic understanding doulos, in the original meaning just being servant.
It instructs heads of house to treat servants w dignity and servants to work with love for their heads.
Other places, if you factor in the other doctrines, we are to treat others how we wish to be treated, so when you the the WHOLE picture together, I personally arrive at a conclusion of, it's really describing life with bosses and employees. Not slave/master
Especially given that we are instructed to call no man master
I think (w exceptions) many incongruencies betwixt religious systems really boil down to cultural/linguistic blindspots
I'm in NO WAY standing up and saying "the church is perfect" because I don't even affiliate myself with one, but I know Abba Jah and his ambassador Jesus, and they are not the same thing as xhristianity
Immanuel/Jesus/Isa, whatever you know him by, revealed himself to me, he is the door or the gate that I walked thru and the Spirit of the Father brings anyone willing to learn sort of past religion as understood in modern society.
World is catching up with sikhi, fluffy words,Haha unbelievable.!! That's what Islam is the fasting growing religion. Not trying to disrespect,
You know Guru Sahib ji prefers Quality over Quantity. They want true Gursikhs rather than so-called sikhs.
Plus, your intention of disrespecting others is already quite visible in your words.
May God guide you. May God bless you.
Waheguru ji ka Khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh 🙏🏻
SIKH NEVER CAN BE MODERN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MODERN ALIVE GURU WHO CAN TEACH THEM ACCORDING TO MODERN TIME
Abcd Efgh tes we do Guru Granth Sahib and 5 piyaare is the Guru
I would have to disagree on this point that Sikhi can never be modern. The gurus recorded their writings in the Guru Granth Sahib ji, encouraging the reader to develop his/her internal qualities such as compassion, sympathy, empathy, justice, learning to view the world in a truthful way(understanding God(the one energy) is in everything everywhere), understanding and being aware of the universal laws of nature i.e remembering everything including human beings are mortal therefore practicing these qualities to control ones desires and uplift ones mind, speech and action. Regardless of time the principles described above will remain applicable.
@Paul Singh No not really. Real Hinduism is very progressive and modern. Hinduism isn't even a religion to be honest; it's a collection of philosophies and practices from around the Indian subcontinent. That is why Hindu practices differ so much just from state to state. Even so, the man who wrote the comment saying "Sikhi never can be modern" was talking about Sikhi, not Hinduism.
Attempting to bring down another whole collection of traditions and faiths followed by over 1 billion people worldwide without you yourself reading any Hindu scriptures is a disservice to Hindu rishis and saints who were extremely "modern" and progressive people over 5000 years ago. These saints and gurus were not "out of touch with reality" but were very much in touch with true reality. This video by Basics of Sikhi clearly states that as a Sikh you are not allowed to discriminate or insult another religious belief. And yet here you are doing exactly that. I would highly recommend for you to clean your own house before worrying about others.
No bani is always true throughout the ages
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