New To DCS World | DCS World Where To Begin?
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- New To DCS World | DCS World Where To Begin? #DCSworld
With the release of TOPGUN Maverick bringing a whole new bunch of aviation lovers to DCS World comes the inevitable where do I even begin questions and answers.
Welcome to all of the new virtual pilots of DCS world. This video is targeted at those who are brand new, or are still sitting on the fence and haven't decided to get into this amazing combat flight simulator.
I cover everything you need to know form PC specs and upgrades, peripherals such as HOTAS and head tracking software and go through the what I wish i knew before i started DCS World.
Introduction : 00:00
Stable vs Open Beta : 1:30
PC Specs and recommended upgrades : 7:19
Head Tracking / VR : 13:16
HOTAS options : 17:48
Aircraft Module Selection : 25:56
DCS World Learning Curve : 31:58
What I Wish I knew Before Starting DCS World : 39:28
Conclusion : 50:00
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Torni's PC Specs
CPU - Intel Core i9 9900KS 4GHz Coffee Lake R 8 Core 16 Thread LGA1151-CL
GPU - ASUS GeForce RTX2080Ti ROG Strix OC 11GB GDDR6
RAM - G.Skill 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 Trident Z RGB Neo C16 3600Mhz
MOBO - ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F Gaming LGA1151-CL ATX Desktop Motherboard
PC CASE - Cooler Master MasterBox CM694 Mid Tower Case
O/S - Windows 10 (64 bit)
Dedicated DCS and O/S SSD - Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD
Monitor [Primary] - Samsung Odyssey G5 32" Curved QHD 144Hz 1MS VA LED Gaming Monitor
Monitor [Secondary] - 27" ViewSonic VX2757
Headset - Corsair H60 HAPTIC Gaming Headset
Keyboard - Corsair K70 RGB MK.2
Mouse - Logitech G300s
HOTAS - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog with F18 Grip
Rudder Pedals - Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals
Head Tracking - TrackIR5
Microphone - Elgato Wave 3
Webcam - Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920 - Hry
Under the "What I wish I knew ..." category, early access modules can take several years to reach some form of completion. There probably isn't a single module that is fully implemented and fully bug free.
Very true also ^^^^
Great video Torni! Very insightful as to getting into DCS. I used to watch your streams and have watched a lot of your tutorials, I’m able to actually fly and fight in dcs because of your insights, thank you and hope to see you streaming on twitch again soon.
Thanks mate, I do plan on getting back into things eventually but things are a bit crazy atm with work and life so sorting those things out first before I jump back in the streaming saddle again. Definitely plan on returning though 💯
I just built out a rig from scratch for f18 in dcs. All in all was about 5k
I learned a lot. Thank You!
Your videos are an enormous help. I have only started in the last couple of months and have bought the F18 + Persian Gulf + Super Carrier. I am finding the learning curve very difficult. My only real experience in sims is Falcon 4 but that was not as involved as this. So far I can start/shut down the F18 up, takeoff, land, fire - sidewinder, amraam and slamer. Mostly learnt off your videos so thank you.
Glad they helped you out mate!!! That’s what I’m aiming for, making it easy for people to understand and get into the game with minimal pain and suffering 👌🏻👌🏻
Finally a real deal cobber, luv your work,thx from brizzy
Hey mate I am looking into getting involved in dcs at some point, I watched this, and if and when I get around to it I will definitely hit you up for info and further knowledge and hopefully you could be my wing man anyday ( had to say it ) / coach to get me up to speed. Great content and insight, loved the foul language as an Aussie myself you can't beat how we talk and have slang that most can't understand.. loved it, true words not just scripted for precious ears in this day and age.. I will definitely be watching more of your content because of how you come across and are REAL.. cheers mate..
with the upcoming ADM 141 TALD I have never been proud to be an exclusive hornet driver...huge fan good work...and I love your hornet skin too
Cheers mate, the skin is amazing… it’s got some Easter eggs on it too 😉😉 glad you enjoy the content 🙏🏻
Excellent vid as always. I focused on 'airman-ship' (and still am now!) before I got into the actual combat side of the sim. Get ONE module, learn to FLY it not fight it and then move on to weapons and tactics. I still rely on Torni's Hornet for Dummies series to learn.
Cheers mate, aviate, navigate, communicate is an old saying in the flying community for a reason 👌🏻👌🏻
Nicely done.
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it
Amazing vid, i got intot dcs 2 weeks ago after watching the movie.
Welcome to the community mate!!!! It's a long but very enjoyable journey you're about to begin!!
I would say pick a fourth Gen fighter. The F-18, F-16, JF-17 then buy only it. Learn that thing as fully as possible. Then find everything you can on air combat, and learn that. After that expand the collection to see what you like.
I would say the complete and utter opposite, unless you're already experienced with stick-and-rudder flying IRL or in other (good) sims. Too many people come to DCS from War Thunder or with no experience even in that, buy the Hornet because Hoggit told them to, then try the older stuff and complain endlessly about things that are only problems if you never take the time to learn basic piloting skills. It becomes almost impossible for them to unlearn their bad habits, and so they either avoid anything that isn't a 4th gen multirole, or will constantly complain and try to get the older aircraft turned into something more comfortable for them. The systems of the 4th gens also cater very heavily to those with an interest in electronics systems management (IT guys must love them), but aren't going to be for everyone.
My go-to recommendations for new flight simmers are the F-5, MiG-19, or MiG-21 - FC3 doesn't really prepare you for full fidelity aircraft and becomes limiting as you learn, but is definitely something everyone should buy at one point), or the Huey, Mi-8, or Mi-24 if they're into helicopters. Warbirds are obviously personal preference as none of them really have the same tech gap/assistance gap issue. F-14 is another decent choice, but its reputation tends to cause new players to expect far too much out of it.
Totally agree with sticking to one module to start with, as to what one that is… totally loaded question that has no right or wrong answer. As long as you enjoy it and learn how to operate it properly is all that matters in the end
But I was inV3rtED 🤪🤪 I agree that many skills you can learn with the earlier tech aircraft do transfer across to more advanced aircraft and do get missed on doing the opposite. That being said if I had zero interest in flying an F5 or MiG I would not buy it just to learn how to fly. The stick and rudder stuff really only comes into play big time when you end up in the merge and if you are flying a 4th gen aircraft correctly you shouldn’t really be getting into that position regularly so it’s not such a big deal… until you get jumped by some blood thirsty Mig-21 pilot who smokes you in a guns fight 🤪🤪🤪🤪 but that’s when the levels of this sim come into play… you think you know stuff until you realise you don’t know anything haha
Another VKB Gladiator HOTAS + TWCS throttle user here. Also, the modules are free for 2 weeks so you can try them out. Great vid
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Thanks mate!! Good to know that info too!!
Started on FCliffs. Still using my x56 10 years & no issues
Awesome to hear that it’s still going strong mate!!
Since 2017 I fly (or mainly play dcs) and learned (and forgot) almost every module I think I got smarter :-) DCS is like a huge and very complex sudoku.
Hahaha yes!!!
Something else to note regarding learning curve, most modules come with a manual and interactive training missions.
Very true, from my experience as a brand new player to DCS those were too hard for me to understand due to lingo and assuming a basic level of competency with flight terminology etc but they are improving those aspects for sure
Those training are ok but without youtube content creators this game will have no chance. It is way too hard its a sim after all.
Nicely done mate!
I can also recommend VKB for mid range joysticks and rudder pedals as their quality and support is great. They also have an Aussie online store, which is helpful for us on this side of the globe.
Take care bud.
Oh yeah! I totally forgot about VKB!! Good call mate 👌🏻👌🏻
Are rudders really nessarily lol. I just use twist on the joystick. I guess more immersion.
@@erfguuipo8084 rudders are definitely a must have if you want to fly the helos in DCS for sure
@@TorniQuetHD $300-$400 dollars gtfo.lol. bro I can't keep spending money like this. It's adding up
@@erfguuipo8084 it’s a money pit mate
Great stuff. the only thing I would add that wasn't mentioned in the video is that the folks who are considering getting DCS, there's a 50% off for first time users when you download and create an account for DCS. This is also mentioned in the DCS FAQ section. What I didn't know, is that the 50% off is via the DCS user interface. You select the modules you want to purchase after you log into DCS. It doesn't matter if it's just one or more modules, it's for the first order. Initially I was going to get 3 modules and I ended getting close to ten because the deal was so good and I knew I was going to be a DCS simmer for the long haul. I got a $550 value for half price and that my friends is a deal you just can't beat!
Thanks for the info mate!!! That is awesome they are doing that for new players
One thing to mention for an inexpensive mid-range alternative set-up is the VKB Gladiator stick with the Thrustmaster TWCS throttle. The Paddles on the throttle work pretty good for the Rudder and you'll have more than enough buttons between the throttle and stick. I just never see myself using pedals even if they were free. I have the freedom of using the sim on a laptop supported by a "lapdesk" on my lap while seated on a couch or easy chair and putting my feet up. Very comfy and I don't have to leave the living-room to go to desk. ... I sure don't want the restrictions of pedals.
My other advice is to skip the Nevada map. And skip the Normandy map too. Definitely buy the Supercarrier with the Hornet.
All the time I've been watching your vid's had no idea you were in Perth as well! (Dianella here!).
Still not up and running propely myself... gotta get a decent head-tracker that works (TracknoIR is useless! - gotta turn all my overhead lights on before it will see my head! too much glare).
Love how you start every video with 'hello fuckers!' lol. Hillarious - Reminds me of Sean Bean on 8 out of 10 Cats greeting everyone by just saying: "Bastards!..."
Nice one mate, small world hey? TrackIR is really good but it is also expensive but well worth it if you can afford it. I got mine off gumtree for cheap so keep an eye out on there and Facebook marketplace for good deals too 👍🏻
@@TorniQuetHD Cheers,
I saw a cheaper version from the UK for couple of hundred, so might try and get that one.
You can also do a search on CZcams on building your own trackIR equivalent. If you’re handy with electronics and soldering etc you can get one made for around $50 I believe. I am not that person though haha
I have the Warthog Hotas and i never regret it that i bought it.
And i have the the rudder paddles from MFG Crosswind V2
Don't forget the F-16C she is a formidabel plane as well
Oh yeah the viper is definitely going to be a strong addition to the DCS module line up when it fully complete
I’ve started thinking that I could get away with just buying Tomcat module and able to use my “next gen” Xbox controller, well it turns out I needed a stick, after I got my 3D extreme pro, I wanted to land on “super carriers”, then I realized my head needs to get tracked, then I realized I need a better HOTAS, then I felt old and moved out of navy and bought the F-16… (jk, I love navy, just wanted Viper with no backstory but wanted to make it seems more dramatic for my story :P) it keeps going like this, I know this is looking like I always spend money but believe me, this is the nature of DCS, you’ll keep spending your money for making your virtual stories more fun. No regrets, I love DCS, you’ll eventually love it too. Just make sure you got some money to spend it, because one simply can’t save money and expect to get away with it in DCS.
Hahaha so true mate 😂😂😂
One tip I would give to a new player is to check your bindings / settings first off.
Yeah for sure, can’t fly if you don’t know what buttons do what
I highly recommend the VKb gladiator evo for stick. I am surprised you did not include vkb.. :(
Yeah i forgot about VKB... so many V named manufacturers
congrats on upgrading to that 2080ti. And the F18 stick, too. That's cool. :-D
Also, can't you get a trial on a module? I thought that was a thing, but jumping through the video I didn't see that (but maybe I missed it)
Cheers mate! Hmmmm I thought they stopped the free trial thing but maybe it is still going??
I'm new here. Recently came across your channel and love your videos. Subscribed immediately. Thinking bout jumping into DCS World and taking my love for flight sims to the next level. One question I have, is it possible to play DCS World offline once you're all set up or is it only playable online.?
The majority of the player base in DCS plays single player only mate so it’s is 100% playable offline once you get all sorted.
It is much more fun to fly with others though so once you find your feet hit up the many amazing flying communities on reddit or any other DCS forums, find yourself a wingman and get amongst it mate
Sounds mighty good to me. Thanks for the suggestion. Makes a lot of sense to get grounded and gain a bit of confidence offline first before seeking out a community to join. Thanks again for the response. Great videos. Keep up the good work..
Cheers mate 👌🏻👌🏻
Awesome tips, and totally made the same mistake with the F-15C.
I didn't realize that about the RAM. I have 16gb and a GTX3070 and was wondering why I was getting single digit frame rates in Liberation :(
Yeah I though a GPU would boost my frames more but RAM upgrade has definitely made a bigger difference in my case
@@TorniQuetHD aaaand 2x32GB sticks of RAM ordered .. Anapa here we come... trying to toss JDAMs on those two S300 sites + Tors on the Caucasus full campaign at 7fps is really tough :P
Really well-done video. My friends and myself are just getting into dcs more because we decided well why not. I bought FC3 a while back since i got it on a good sale but never flew it since i was waiting for me new hotas to come in which it just did recently and i can finally put it together and use. (I got the gladiator nxt premium with a twcs throttle (the one that comes with the t16000 so hopefully setting this up goes all well). I also while the current summer sale is going on may grab a full module to run. Which one not to sure but i really like your comment on get one you're interested in/passionate about since dcs is a study sim is a really good comment to make about it. Still not 100% on which one I like the hornets especially after my local airbase had them out in the local airshow (it was actually a double session the thunderbirds in their f-16s were joint flying in a show with the f-18s of the blue angels) so that got me interested in those little f-16s but my childhood and love of planes originated because of everyone's favorite F-14 soo its between these 3 ive narrowed it down to.
Those 3 are all really great modules, the most feature complete ones are the hornet and the tomcat but the viper is getting worked on quickly now so it should be up to speed with the others in the next year or so.
Hornet and viper are fly by wire, they pretty much for the most part fly themselves, the tomcat on the other hand will punish you if you don’t coordinate stick and rudder in turns and rolls etc, you really have to “fly” it to get good with it all.
Also understanding jester and what his limitations are as your Ai RIO is big too, I get frustrated with him losing lock on targets but it’s more that I don’t fully understand how the radar works and what jester can and can’t do that is causing him to stuff up as much as he does. The tomcat is essentially 2 modules cuz you have to learn both the front and backseat to really understand how to fly it correctly. It’s a daunting task that I’m almost ready to have a crack at
@@TorniQuetHD hey thanks for the heads up on the modules.
I heard the F-14 get compared to an old sports/muscle car fast loud and very fun but will also kill you very quickly if you do something the airframe doesn't like. I also know jester has his limitations and also loves that ejector seat button. On the postive ive heard that the feeling of analog you get from it though is really nice as your really flying the aircraft becoming one with the airframe.
Like i said ill see thanks for the info though :D.
Don't forget first time users get 50% off their first modules. I got the f18 50% off happy days mate.
Oh nice!!! I did not know that!!
How to get started in DCS?
“Wellll you should get ready spend minimum $500 …” 😆
After two years, and an eviscerated budget, it’s been worth every penny
Agree 💯 mate ❤️❤️
This does not apply to everyone, by any means, but I would say that if you were going to get a module, get that module, and learn it FULLY, or as much as you can before going onto other aircraft. I found it was pretty difficult learning the F/A-18C and the AH-64D at the same time. And personally, I disagree that the Hornet is a "Jack of all trades, master of none," because in my opinion, the F/A-18C slaps harder than any other aircraft I've seen. But that may just be some bias in me cause the RAAF flies it.
Agree mate^^^ and also agree that the hornet is a beast, hence why it’s my fav DVS module… also biased cuz the RAAF flew them, old aircraft technician on F-111’s here 🙋♂️
Hey! Great videos, to begin! I was wondering if you could help me (and others potentially) on setting up monitors. What I would like is to put the Kneeboard or the F10 map on a second monitor. I have the app for the UFC on a tablet, which is awesome. I'd just like to put other information on another monitor for quicker reference. Thanks!! ....StormriderFX
Hi mate. I'm new to DCS..Flight simming in general really...though I've had msfs2020 for about a year now. Glad I stumbled across an aussie channel where you speak in laymen's terms and in a language I relate to :)
In terms of aircraft, I loved the A10, MIG 21 and Harriers as a kid. But I believe that they are some of the hardest modules in DCS. How hard are they to learn in your opinion compared to like the F18?
Just want to add that I'm not interested in the FC3 pack, but still a bit worried about the potential learning curve 😬
Thanks for your time in advance.
MiG-21 is a handful to fly but you will learn actual aircraft handling and stick and rudder control and coordination in it. It is a really fun module but if you fly it against the likes of vipers, hornets or tomcats you’ll be in for a rough time as it’s lack technology really shows.
The Harrier is very similar to hornet in terms of systems etc so the carry over from one to the other is definitely a thing, you will pick things up quicker after you’ve learnt one and moved to the other.
The A-10 was my first full fidelity module, it is an absolute beast for CAS and ground attack but it is very systems intensive so the learning curve is fairly high in it to remember what switch does what. A decent HOTAS is needed for it to fully enjoy it as it is designed to be controlled almost exclusively with the joystick and throttle buttons.
Which ever one you go with just embrace the learning curve and try to learn stuff the right way the first time and you’ll be sweet 👍🏻👍🏻
@@TorniQuetHD Thank you for your quick reply and info. It came at the right time because DCS has a sale on right now. I picked up the A10 and the AV-8B at a great price. I have all the peripherals you mention because I have Msfs2020. Now onto taming the A10 😄. Will pick up the mig 21 in a year's time.
Just to add my experience here. I've been learning the AV8B for the last 2 months. I could do almost everything after just a couple of weeks, the hardest part are the mav missiles and the Vertical Landing. But everything else is relatively easy in the harrier.
@@R3DCODE Nice. I look forward to doing Carrier missions in the Falklands, but I understand that map still has a way to go. Getting into the A10 right now and really enjoying the ...steep ..learning curve 😅
Welp. I'm a poor who has greater priorities for my money to go to so I guess I'ma just live vicariously through Growling Sidewinder's videos and make due with other games for personal play.
Yeah it’s definitely not cheap mate 😭 but remember you don’t have to buy everything all at once, and keep an eye on the classified ads for cheap gear from people upgrading, you find some bargains every once and a while
@@TorniQuetHD I think you misunderstand. I'm paying off my debts and throwing my spare cash into investments that look to pay off big in a decade or so. The only sims I play on PC are the old X-Wing and TIE Fighter series and I use a 360 and PS2 for the rest. It boggles my mind how the likes of you, Growling Sidewinder, and others get in on this while otherwise satisfying your obligations. I make $50k per year as a skilled tradesman and I allocate my money to paying off all my main shit ASAP (house, car note, etc) but you guys can spend thousands of dollars on software, hardware, and time to make your videos.
It is all compromise mate, i dont go out partying and drinking hardly ever and I have minimal debts to my name which affords me the opportunity to do this stuff. Also an understanding partner always helps too👌🏻
so many of my friends messaged me to say hey im getting DCS just saw top gun. One guy even bought a hotas on his way home from the movie. Looking at their steam account play times the longest ive seen was 19 min before they quite. I asked if they wanted help but they said no.
Yeah this is why I made this video, we can’t lose the new found interest in DCS. The more people know about it and play it the better it will be for everyone
@@TorniQuetHD yea unfortunately the influx of new gamers too it are probably expecting COD with planes and instead find out it’s a deep complex sim that needs actual dedication and time to learn which is the opposite of what casual gamers want. I’ve had friends say it’s boring looking or “who wants to fly 300 miles for 2 min of action”. I call these people instant gratification gamers, meanwhile I like to learn, study, hone a skill and know that I got a kill based on real skill and I like how the action builds to a 2 min finally.
@@masterman3178 totally agree ^^^ this is also a big reason why there is minimal griefing and trolling on multiplayer servers too because to be able to actually be a menace or pest to people costs you money which most casual gaming trolls will not pay or be bothered to learn. Kinda a double edged sword, entry level learning curve is extremely high which gets rid of a lot of typical COD style troll players.
CPU is the main bottleneck in DCS, it doesn't look that way in task manager because DCS currently only utilizes mainly one core. Once Vulkan comes out it will address that issue. I have 64GB RAM and a 3080Ti but a busy liberation mission will still bring me into the low 20 FPS.
Sounds like it will be amazing once the Vulcan engine comes out!!
@@TorniQuetHD Yes it will, i just hope it comes out in my lifetime LOL
Fast forward through the first 15 min or so of this video. I’m guessing anyone who is watching this already has the game installed and knows their rig can run it
Should I install the STEAM version or the direct install?
I’d go with the website version personally mate, it’s not as big a deal these days but some things are not steam compatible which could cause an issue with missing out on a sale or a module not being available to you straight away so best to go off the website 👍🏻
@@TorniQuetHD Thanks!
Torni is one of the best DCS pilots, if not the the best. Subscribe, and watch his vids he knows his stuff. My mate. 👌🏽
Cheers for the kind words mate, If I can learn DCS anyone can 👍🏻
I wonder its because torni is a real pilot.. it's like a chef showing you to cook. It's their job to do it well?
@@erfguuipo8084 A very high percentage of current DCS pilots are either still active or former military and civil pilots.
@@the_rakan lol I'm just a gamer. I have no experience flying. It's very hard
@@erfguuipo8084 You'll get there, just practice
DCS has one of the worst ‘onboarding’ experiences of any application I’ve had the dubious pleasure of using. Now that I’m over the worst peaks of the learning curve, I can see why it’s so bad... Being so confusing and without guidance, DCS’ usability acts as a gatekeeper, keeping tyrekickers and children away. Nah, that’s a stupid way to look at it :D. The user experience is just crap!
Agree mate, it is extremely difficult to get your head around if you don’t have an aviation background, hence why I’m trying to make my series of tutorials as simple as possible for people to understand.
Where to begin? Not with FBW and MFDs 😤😤😤
Haha you’re a pure sadist and sucker for punishment, I love it 👌🏻
X56 throttle quality is garbage
Yeah it is quite plastic feeling but if that’s all your budget allows then it still does the job 👌🏻👌🏻 I had an x56 before the warthog HOTAS