The UK should never have left its aeronautical industry to wither on the vine. Current aeronautical technology is just a rediscovery of what the UK was able to do without sophisticated computers. The UK should do what it destined to.
I watch the video before this about the English electric lightning intercepting the U2 at 80,000 ft and that late 80s and it intercepting the Concord but I always thought the Delta dart could have caught the Concord maybe for the Delta Dagger whichever one it was the fastest one these are the interceptor are over and that's too bad the new aircraft don't even get as fast as the old what was a third generation
Those murdererous raping colonizers can go get fucked. The world can only truly be free when the British Central banking system ceases to exist, and nations like Australia Canada and South Africa become their own republic's with their own currency. The only part of my heritage I'm ashamed of are the British ancestors. the rest of them are all from countries that told the UK to go f*** themselves.
I think I am correct in saying just 10 years elapsed between the first flight of a Lancaster and a Vulcan. Astounding ! It must have been a most incredible spectacle when it roared overhead and was witnessed by the public for the first time. Whenever it arrived it stole the show. And that howling sound..... One of Britains great aeronautical achievements. I personally watched many air displays from circa mid 80s right through to XH558 very final flights with VTS and was always mesmerised. So graceful and effortless, almost beautiful, but think of the horror it was designed to deliver..... the possible end of all things !!!!
I still remember, as a child, the "Flying Wing" (707A/707B's) over Hampshire.. Finally years later working on them at Waddington as an RAF Armourer. Good memories of an awesome aircraft.
It was an awesome plane and I'm happy to have seen her last displays live. What I didn't know about the Vulcan is the use of composite materials, processed in the same way they process carbon fibre composites now.
the tail ends of the wing , is about the same thickness as a SUP stand up paddle board or surf board and feels just as light.. they should have never left our sky's
A beautiful aircraft! A squadron of these came TDY to my base in Maine in the early 1960’s, so I was able to see them every day. They had the white paint as shown here. Excellent. They operated out of the USA while their base was doing some runway repairs. Most beautiful bomber ever built!
The test pilot is ww2 pilot Roland Falk and yes he did actually fly and test Vickers and Avro aircraft wearing a pinstripe suit and tie.It was his trademark (no overalls for Rowley).@@TheSupradude26
That was a guy getting into the cockpit for the cameras, dude. You think they actually set up cameras, had him read off his part of the script for the cameras, then strap himself in and go and fly the test program for the new plane, all in a days work? That was filmed after the fact when they were making a film about it all. He was not flying the plane that day. You see, there is this form of magic called "video editing". It can do same amazing things. You think the press operators at Avro also came to work in suit and tie? They felt that one had to look sharp if you were on camera, it was a film made to make Avro look good, they didn't want a bunch of blue-collar types making them look bad.
@@justforever96 Your sarcasm is poorly placed. "At the end of the 1955 Farnborough Airshow, the British Prime Minister, Sir Anthony Eden, flew in an Avro Vulcan bomber. Though most pilots were bundled up in military flight suits and helmets, one figure stood out, cutting a dash in his tailored Savile Row business suit, shirt, and tie. It was the Vulcan’s flamboyant pilot, Wing Commander Roland ‘Roly’ Falk, and that was his standard flying garb. Overalls were from the biplane and propeller era. Falk saw the modern jet cockpit as an extension of his office and dressed accordingly. One of the maxims he applied to an aircraft was, “If it looks good, then it will fly well”. This was certainly true of the Avro Vulcan, which Roly also piloted on its maiden flight in 1952."
Michael Schnittker I wouldn’t go as far as the most beautiful but a marvel yes and the Brits should be proud. That bird has a rather large beak on the front. But never the less it’s an amazing Aircraft. The most beautiful Bomber from England has always been the Mosquito. The most Amazing fighter Hurricane or lightening.
Sorry Gents I seem have a problem writing a reply so if you don't mind I will stick on here .I was there as a seven year old kid in N.Z. amazing!! still stuck in my mind!!
Excuse me, but, it seems to me that the American B-52 is still flying, protecting you Brits and all the other NATO countries who are still relying on America to do what all of you should have done for yourselves after the end of WW2. When is enough, enough? Of course, I may be mistaken, being a lifetime tax-paying American who has seen his tax dollars go to everywhere in the world for people who just laugh at American gullibility.
Mr. Ken yes the B-52 is a wonderful bomber and the most feared for its proven capabilities and longevity. But I think the B-29 would give a run for its money for what it demonstrated with Japan. Plus it was a key aspect of the Star Wars millennium Falcon. Yes it had teething problems but even Russia had to copy it which gave brith to the Russian Bear.
Thanks for posting this. The Vulcan and XB 70 Valkyrie are two of the most beautiful planes ever built. If I were to choose between the two I might give it to the Vulcan. I went to many airshows. The sights and sounds of the Vulcan are a unforgettable experience. 💪💪♥️🛩️🇬🇧
6:52....Test pilot gets into the cockpit with a suit and tie...goes home and sits at the dinner table still donning his suit and tie 'How was your day dear?'...God bless England!.............Here whilst building the Airfix 1/72 Vulcan....and I highly recommend it cos it really is a beaut to build and have in your collection
I lived near Farnborough in the fifties and recall seeing the Avto 707s, also the Fairy Delta aircraft. Then the Vulcan of course. In the 70’s I was in the RAF and worked on the Vulcan doing major servicing and repairs.
The Avro Vulcan..Probably the most beautiful plane every built. Definitely in the top 10. Put the Comet and the Lockheed Constellation looking wise as in the civilian aspect aesthetically.✈️
Someday someone is going to explain the concept of "video editing" to you. You will be shocked and disappointed, all your certainties destroyed. To let you down more easily when the time comes, i will just caution you that it is _possible_ , just _possible_ that the man speaking into the cameras wearing a suit and tie, was not _actually_ an Avro test pilot in the course of his normal test flight duties, and it is equally conceiveable that he was not actually the man flying the jet overhead doing barrel roles. I will leave it to others to explain how this magic, this "video editing", actually works, lest I distress you too much for one day.
Commentary by that well known actor John Standing with his distinctive voice. But most don't know that his full title is: Sir John Ronald Leon Standing, 4th Baronet.
Mike Smith just go and have a chat with the air traffic controllers at Plattsburgh AFB who were on duty when a Vulcan visited them. They never saw the Vulcan coming until it would have been to late for them to take any defensive actions (had we been at war that is). Stealthiness is not just the use of exotic materials that absorb radar energy, sometimes it is the shape of the aircraft (including the smoothness of transition between shapes) like in the Vulcan, and other times it's also size related, like the BAe Hawk which doubles its RCS when the gun pod is added.
You clearly have no idea what intense work goes into designing a stealth aircraft. Just being in a flying wing configuration does not make a plane a stealth plane. and the Vulcan isn't a flying wing, it is a delta-wing.
As an ex Aircraft Mechanic Propulsion in the RAF , worked on these at RAF Scampton . The Engines were either the Olympus 200 or the newer Olympus 300 series , that latter was a bitch to work on as it was a larger engine stuffed into the space as the 200.
Such a beautiful bird! The tiny turbojet engines tucked inside that beautiful wing has such an aerodynamic elegance to it. The U.K aviation industry produced half a dozen or so aeroplanes with this configuration. They all look stunning and slick.
"Tiny turbojet engines"? Have you ever seen an Olympus turbojet dude? Only seem "tiny" compared to a high-bypass turbofan. And looks aren't really what makes a plane successful. All the drawbacks, the difficulty of access, the increased vibration, the fire risk, heat management issues, all unit to say that underwing pods are better. And you can't really say that underwing turbojets aren't elegant and aesthetic looking. Look at the 707 and DC-9. hard to say those are not handsome aircraft.
@@justforever96 Where is this coming from? Did I say that no other plane is beautiful? Underwing podded engines are so common now that it ceases to be anything remarkable. These early British birds stand out in comparison to what we see today. They are tiny. Even for turbojets. They produce 1/3 the power of the Concorde and 1/5 the power of the TU-144.
Back in the days when testing the prototype meant "Dressing for the Occasion!" I have never seen a 500 Ton Rubber Press Operator in a Suit and Tie! You have to love the British for their sense of formality and fair play. "Jolly good show.... Tea anyone?" As for technical achievements..... World leaders. Look at the Spitfire, Merlin Engine, Whittle Jet Engine, and Radar to mention just a few. Also, Trains..... they just re-produced the Tornado, a coal fired steam locomotive capable of sustained speeds up to 100 MPH to be able to haul tourists and share the main line. Lots of examples of engineering, design, & workmanship. As for the Vulcan.... if you have never seen one fly in person.... you have truly missed a great experience. For several years, the Vulcan came for the annual Abbotsford Air Show in British Columbia Canada. A highlight of the show to see it perform steep and tight maneuvers all within the confines of the airfield. So massive a wing, they called it the "Aluminum Overcast." I saw it several times and was amazed every time.
No one ever called the Vulcan "Aluminum Overcast". That was the B-29, and the B-36 was "Magnesium Overcast". anyone calling the Vulcan that was straight ripping off the American nickname.
Well... I hope they fixed the issue where someone in the co-pilot's seat could insert poison gas into the the aircraft's O2 system. Sorry... flashback to Thunderball :) When I saw that movie as a youngster in the early 60's, I thought the plane was a prop. No way was there an aircraft that wild and cool looking in real life. All we had, was the B-52. It looked like a 50's stationwagon. And then later... the Concord. Man... England really knew how to design great aircraft. The Vulcan was one of, if not THE, greatest looking bomber ever.
Bob Lindley does not get the credit he deserves. He had a hand in the Avro Canuck and Arrow and the space shuttle as well. Roy Chadwick may have given the go ahead for the design, but it was Mr Lindley who came up with the idea for the Vulcan.
This film is inspiring and sad. The inspiration comes with the Vulcan itself... It simply looked great and did a great job during the cold war. Vulcan crews should rightly feel proud to have flown these fine aircraft, knowing they helped deter Russia from encroaching on western Europe. But it's sad to know our political masters have allowed our aircraft industry to decline so much. Films like this are like time capsules, which describe and reflect the technology, attitudes and ethos of a distant age.
Just imagine the old Chap gardening at 8 mins sees the Vulcam fly overhead was born into a world of horsedrawn vehicles and the steam train.Talk about rapid progress brought on by 2 World Wars.
All those witnesses of the first flights say the same thing verbatim: "It stopped traffic in Cheshire because nobody had seen anything like it again". And that means only one thing - THEY ARE LYING.
@@deezynar B 36 was not a delta wing aircraft , you are thinking of the B 58 which did not fly until 4 years after the Vulcan. The B 58 was introduced in 1960 and retired in 1970, not only a short but also a very uninspiring career.
Six years, same as the B-52, which actually flew a few months earlier. And not all that amazing really, the B-36 is impressive as the ultimate example of wartime technology, the sheer size and complexity of it. The Vulcan is a subsonic jet bomber, not a quantuum leap beyond it. The B-58 was only ten years afterwards.
It is sort of sad that none are still flying, but also, it is perfectly understandable, since the operating costs of the engines alone are those of running four (4) Hawker Hunters, or more than quite a lot of countries have an air force budget in total.
The B-52 has an advantage over the V-bombers and the XB-70 Valkyrie: its engines are mounted in pods. As newer engines were developed, it was relatively easy to create an adapter pod. With new engines, it was worth to update the electronic equipment as well. But the Vulcan has its engines inside. Any new powerplant would have to be the same size, and the retrofit would be very expensive.
Vincit Veritas by the 1980s the Vulcan had lost its main role of a strategic bomber to the Polaris armed submarines, which were hardervto destroy than the bombers even if they were dispersed.
Alex Lopez it wasn't so much the engines that killed off the Vulcan, but equipment in hard to reach places that had reached the end of its design life. The Vulcan's longevity was the problem. The designers had expected the airframes to be retired long before the 1980s.
I have the Original Side Slip Indicator Taken from XH558 and Presented to me by Chief Engineer Andrew Edmundson during her re-build at Bruntingthope if anyone is interested in buying it
So far as I know Chris it's a slip & Bank indicator, I can send you a picture but not for a few months cus I just left UK for the winter. For me it's priceless as it was a personal gift from the engineer (Andy Edmunson) who was charged with the rebuild to put XH558 back in the air on the Vulcan to the Sky Project... He presented it to me personally for my contribution to the rebuild....My story is so deep but finally he betrayed me..Make an offer if your interested, /Regards Toby
Then keep it. Because you will regret selling it. I love history and as an aviation maintenance engineer it would be cool but I dont have a story behind it.
All too common story, get the punters and suckers to pay for it telling them later how unforeseen circumstances forced a change of mind and it wasn't really ours and the real owner wants it back now that all the work has been done..
It is quite hilarious that the film director (2006 ??) has casually inter-mixed the Mk.1 and Mk.2 variants. Perhaps this happened during the 1950-60's. [Aussie in BC]
That is why I am concerning, that Canadian developed and made, one of the >>> CF-105 Avro "ARROW" >>>,(RF 202 or 206), has successfully escaped from being cut to the pieces by Canadian torches, and being untouched somehow ended up in Britain, because it was the same AV Ro. Company, which made the BOTH airplanes: CF-105 Avro ARROW (Arctic interceptor) & then Avro VULCAN (Arctic bomber) !!!!!
@Derek Todd.. Yes. look for Avro Delta Formation. It's about halfway through straight after take off. Tony Blackman performing a loop is out there somewhere.
I like the film says 'the first time any delta wing aircraft had flown in Britain" and people just hear "the first delta wing aircraft ever flown". They wouldn't specify "in Britain" if it was the first delta in the world. The Avro 707 was not the first delta. the Saab Draken was not the first delta. Like, google is a thing. Wikipedia is a thing. Literally two minutes can solves these questions for anyone who really wants to know.
Those was built during the cold war for deep penetration into the Sovie tunion, I think they carried two high yield hydrogen bombs.the Russians didn't stand a chance against French British, and American bombers"what a nightmarish scenario🤔🙄
The Comet's major issues were structural, not related to the engines or their placement. 3 Comets were lost in 12 months in '53/'54 and the investigations eventually revealed that square window corners developed up to eight times the load stress as the rest of the fuselage skin and the aircraft had been designed to be glued and riveted but was built riveted only. Once improvements were made (consider the timeline of large jet development) the Comet airframe went on to have a long but chequered career: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_Nimrod
Comet never had any problems with the engines. They thought it was possibly engine fires for the first year or so until they finally found that it was problems with metal fatigue in the fuselage. The Comet and Vulcan both had the drawback of buried engines, which is difficulty of access for maintenance, risk from fire, increased vibration and noise, heat management problems, etc. But not "problems" the way you seem to be suggesting.
And that roll is an exactly one G manoeuvre, so that is not unbelievabĺe at all. You can roll all airplanes in the world that way. Just keep clear of Mother Earth.
The modern B-52 can launch nuclear cruise missiles this aircraft should be able to do the same it was carrying two large missiles or it can carry anti-ship missiles
It did. The last years of the V-Force was as missile carriers with nuclear missiles. But is it worth paying for that as well as gorund based and sea based missiles? UK goverment didn't think so. They really only outfitted them that way because they had already paid for the planes and they needed SOMETHING for them to do. The US keep B-52s in service because they have money to pour down the drain, not because we really need them.
We used to wake up, half an hour before we went to sleep, lick run-way clean wit' tongue, then work; twenty-seven hours a day, ten days a week, down at Avro factory......AND, we used to have t'pay manager f't apprenticeship!.... Tell that t'kids t'day, and they'll not believe ya."....
A test pilot wearing a suit and tie it just don't look right I mean how come you don't have a flat suit I seen RAF pilots were flight suits in world war II I mean why don't he have a flat suit why the hell is he wearing a suit and tie it's just looks ridiculous
I will say the Vulcan looks really impressive, but over its entire active life span of 30ish years, its credited for putting some potholes in a runway and taking out a couple radar structures? Damn, talk about a massively immense waste of time and money lol. No wonder even as a moderate aviation fan I hadnt ever even heard of it until the other day..
It successfully infiltrated US airspace not once, but twice under the noses of the prowling ADF. War game scenario with a simulated nuclear payload, uncle sam got his delivery both times.
None of it is "fake", it is representational. They didn't have gopros and the camera technology we have today back then, they had to film things in a controlled environment. No one actually expected the scenes being shown on the screen to be ACTUAL footage of the subject, it was like a "dramatic reproduction". As for the rest, the people making the documentary in 2006 have to pick and chose from the footage that exists. Would you rather they just showed a blank screen when talking about something that they didn't have footage for, is that better in your mind than choosing something that looks similar to what is being discussed? They can't go out and take new footage, the planes are all out of service. Deal with it.
No German technology, the Delta wing developed in Britain had nothing from a non existent German drawing, and Britain made working axial flow engines from 1942
Gorazd Psenner the Metro-Vick F.2 axial-flow compressor turbo-jet was indvelopment since 1941 and was being flight tested in 1942. A long time before we ever got hold of any German axial-flow jet engines. Swept and deltawings were being theorised as needed for high speed flight in the 1930s, but only the Germans had flown one before tge end of WW2.
Top of the range..Wonder how politicians that kill time,money,dedication,ideas,enthusiasm,skill,craftsmanship etc..at the stroke of a pen,sleep at night..
The UK should never have left its aeronautical industry to wither on the vine. Current aeronautical technology is just a rediscovery of what the UK was able to do without sophisticated computers. The UK should do what it destined to.
I watch the video before this about the English electric lightning intercepting the U2 at 80,000 ft and that late 80s and it intercepting the Concord but I always thought the Delta dart could have caught the Concord maybe for the Delta Dagger whichever one it was the fastest one these are the interceptor are over and that's too bad the new aircraft don't even get as fast as the old what was a third generation
And what is that? Rule the world?
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Oh dear I think we know your politics.
Those murdererous raping colonizers can go get fucked. The world can only truly be free when the British Central banking system ceases to exist, and nations like Australia Canada and South Africa become their own republic's with their own currency. The only part of my heritage I'm ashamed of are the British ancestors. the rest of them are all from countries that told the UK to go f*** themselves.
That's the price you pay being a American Pudel!
I think I am correct in saying just 10 years elapsed between the first flight of a Lancaster and a Vulcan. Astounding ! It must have been a most incredible spectacle when it roared overhead and was witnessed by the public for the first time. Whenever it arrived it stole the show. And that howling sound..... One of Britains great aeronautical achievements. I personally watched many air displays from circa mid 80s right through to XH558 very final flights with VTS and was always mesmerised. So graceful and effortless, almost beautiful, but think of the horror it was designed to deliver..... the possible end of all things !!!!
Menacing is the word I was looking for when it comes to the look of the Vulcan.
I still remember, as a child, the "Flying Wing" (707A/707B's) over Hampshire.. Finally years later working on them at Waddington as an RAF Armourer. Good memories of an awesome aircraft.
I had a swim in the sea in Bournemouth while the last flying Vulcan flew over me...what a sound..what a day.
It was an awesome plane and I'm happy to have seen her last displays live.
What I didn't know about the Vulcan is the use of composite materials, processed in the same way they process carbon fibre composites now.
the tail ends of the wing , is about the same thickness as a SUP stand up paddle board or surf board and feels just as light..
they should have never left our sky's
I was buzzed by the last operational Vulcan, mid channel, in the late 80s; what an incredible experience!
Sitting in one of these was a dream come true and seeing the last flight was in incredible! What a machine. Stunning!
A beautiful aircraft! A squadron of these came TDY to my base in Maine in the early 1960’s, so I was able to see them every day. They had the white paint as shown here. Excellent. They operated out of the USA while their base was doing some runway repairs. Most beautiful bomber ever built!
6:56 Definite contender for the best dressed test pilot award...
That was obviously set up for the TV show and he wasnt actually flying the plane that day lol.
The test pilot is ww2 pilot Roland Falk and yes he did actually fly and test Vickers and Avro aircraft wearing a pinstripe suit and tie.It was his trademark (no overalls for Rowley).@@TheSupradude26
Remarkable how the test pilots of that era flew ... in suit and tie, and dress shoes!
Only in Britain!
@spudnic88 can't turn up at the hospital with soiled underwear
Lol that was obviously only a shoot for the TV show or advertisement or whatever it was and he wasnt actually flying the aircraft at that time haha.
That was a guy getting into the cockpit for the cameras, dude. You think they actually set up cameras, had him read off his part of the script for the cameras, then strap himself in and go and fly the test program for the new plane, all in a days work? That was filmed after the fact when they were making a film about it all. He was not flying the plane that day. You see, there is this form of magic called "video editing". It can do same amazing things.
You think the press operators at Avro also came to work in suit and tie? They felt that one had to look sharp if you were on camera, it was a film made to make Avro look good, they didn't want a bunch of blue-collar types making them look bad.
@@justforever96 Your sarcasm is poorly placed. "At the end of the 1955 Farnborough Airshow, the British Prime Minister, Sir Anthony Eden, flew in an Avro Vulcan bomber. Though most pilots were bundled up in military flight suits and helmets, one figure stood out, cutting a dash in his tailored Savile Row business suit, shirt, and tie. It was the Vulcan’s flamboyant pilot, Wing Commander Roland ‘Roly’ Falk, and that was his standard flying garb.
Overalls were from the biplane and propeller era. Falk saw the modern jet cockpit as an extension of his office and dressed accordingly. One of the maxims he applied to an aircraft was, “If it looks good, then it will fly well”. This was certainly true of the Avro Vulcan, which Roly also piloted on its maiden flight in 1952."
The most beautiful aircraft ever built. Marvelous engineering. Brits should be proud.
We are.
Michael Schnittker I wouldn’t go as far as the most beautiful but a marvel yes and the Brits should be proud. That bird has a rather large beak on the front. But never the less it’s an amazing Aircraft. The most beautiful Bomber from England has always been the Mosquito. The most Amazing fighter Hurricane or lightening.
Sorry Gents I seem have a problem writing a reply so if you don't mind I will stick on here .I was there as a seven year old kid in N.Z. amazing!! still stuck in my mind!!
Excuse me, but, it seems to me that the American B-52 is still flying, protecting you Brits and all the other NATO countries who are still relying on America to do what all of you should have done for yourselves after the end of WW2. When is enough, enough? Of course, I may be mistaken, being a lifetime tax-paying American who has seen his tax dollars go to everywhere in the world for people who just laugh at American gullibility.
Mr. Ken yes the B-52 is a wonderful bomber and the most feared for its proven capabilities and longevity. But I think the B-29 would give a run for its money for what it demonstrated with Japan. Plus it was a key aspect of the Star Wars millennium Falcon. Yes it had teething problems but even Russia had to copy it which gave brith to the Russian Bear.
Thanks for posting this. The Vulcan and XB 70 Valkyrie are two
of the most beautiful planes ever built. If I were to choose between the two I might give it to the Vulcan. I went to many airshows. The sights and sounds of the Vulcan are a unforgettable experience.
💪💪♥️🛩️🇬🇧
6:52....Test pilot gets into the cockpit with a suit and tie...goes home and sits at the dinner table still donning his suit and tie 'How was your day dear?'...God bless England!.............Here whilst building the Airfix 1/72 Vulcan....and I highly recommend it cos it really is a beaut to build and have in your collection
I lived near Farnborough in the fifties and recall seeing the Avto 707s, also the Fairy Delta aircraft. Then the Vulcan of course. In the 70’s I was in the RAF and worked on the Vulcan doing major servicing and repairs.
The Avro Vulcan..Probably the most beautiful plane every built. Definitely in the top 10. Put the Comet and the Lockheed Constellation looking wise as in the civilian aspect aesthetically.✈️
Interesting that the Vulcans bomb bay was all loaded from below. I think it was the Valiant where you needed to be above too.
Documentaries used to be so good
That's so awesome!!! he just walks up in a suit, jumps in the plane and does barrel rolls and lands...
Someday someone is going to explain the concept of "video editing" to you. You will be shocked and disappointed, all your certainties destroyed. To let you down more easily when the time comes, i will just caution you that it is _possible_ , just _possible_ that the man speaking into the cameras wearing a suit and tie, was not _actually_ an Avro test pilot in the course of his normal test flight duties, and it is equally conceiveable that he was not actually the man flying the jet overhead doing barrel roles. I will leave it to others to explain how this magic, this "video editing", actually works, lest I distress you too much for one day.
That's one beautiful bird!
The Vulcan - probably the only jet bomber ever tested by a bloke wearing a tweed suit and brown brogues 💪
I enjoy seeing the mix of early delta and later designs on this video!
Commentary by that well known actor John Standing with his distinctive voice. But most don't know that his full title is: Sir John Ronald Leon Standing, 4th Baronet.
Wouldn't have taken but a little redesigning to turn the Vulcan into a Stealth Bomber. What a beautiful aircraft.
Mike Smith just go and have a chat with the air traffic controllers at Plattsburgh AFB who were on duty when a Vulcan visited them. They never saw the Vulcan coming until it would have been to late for them to take any defensive actions (had we been at war that is). Stealthiness is not just the use of exotic materials that absorb radar energy, sometimes it is the shape of the aircraft (including the smoothness of transition between shapes) like in the Vulcan, and other times it's also size related, like the BAe Hawk which doubles its RCS when the gun pod is added.
You clearly have no idea what intense work goes into designing a stealth aircraft. Just being in a flying wing configuration does not make a plane a stealth plane. and the Vulcan isn't a flying wing, it is a delta-wing.
Beautiful plane!
As an ex Aircraft Mechanic Propulsion in the RAF , worked on these at RAF Scampton . The Engines were either the Olympus 200 or the newer Olympus 300 series , that latter was a bitch to work on as it was a larger engine stuffed into the space as the 200.
Such a beautiful bird! The tiny turbojet engines tucked inside that beautiful wing has such an aerodynamic elegance to it. The U.K aviation industry produced half a dozen or so aeroplanes with this configuration. They all look stunning and slick.
"Tiny turbojet engines"? Have you ever seen an Olympus turbojet dude? Only seem "tiny" compared to a high-bypass turbofan. And looks aren't really what makes a plane successful. All the drawbacks, the difficulty of access, the increased vibration, the fire risk, heat management issues, all unit to say that underwing pods are better. And you can't really say that underwing turbojets aren't elegant and aesthetic looking. Look at the 707 and DC-9. hard to say those are not handsome aircraft.
@@justforever96 Where is this coming from? Did I say that no other plane is beautiful? Underwing podded engines are so common now that it ceases to be anything remarkable. These early British birds stand out in comparison to what we see today. They are tiny. Even for turbojets. They produce 1/3 the power of the Concorde and 1/5 the power of the TU-144.
@@ejkk9513 okay, that is the first time I have ever heard Olympus engines described as " tiny" but suit yourself.
hey thanks for putting this up
Back in the days when testing the prototype meant "Dressing for the Occasion!" I have never seen a 500 Ton Rubber Press Operator in a Suit and Tie! You have to love the British for their sense of formality and fair play. "Jolly good show.... Tea anyone?" As for technical achievements..... World leaders. Look at the Spitfire, Merlin Engine, Whittle Jet Engine, and Radar to mention just a few. Also, Trains..... they just re-produced the Tornado, a coal fired steam locomotive capable of sustained speeds up to 100 MPH to be able to haul tourists and share the main line. Lots of examples of engineering, design, & workmanship. As for the Vulcan.... if you have never seen one fly in person.... you have truly missed a great experience. For several years, the Vulcan came for the annual Abbotsford Air Show in British Columbia Canada. A highlight of the show to see it perform steep and tight maneuvers all within the confines of the airfield. So massive a wing, they called it the "Aluminum Overcast." I saw it several times and was amazed every time.
Yes, the suit and tie for all occasions back then!
No one ever called the Vulcan "Aluminum Overcast". That was the B-29, and the B-36 was "Magnesium Overcast". anyone calling the Vulcan that was straight ripping off the American nickname.
That was back in the good old days when your new revolutionary aircraft wasn't copied by China in less than 10 years
an icon of the Abbotsford Airshow during the 1970's and early 80's...
Now THAT'S what represents the Best of British!!
PoorManRC you mean designs and concepts taken from the germans?
Extraordinary to know that this delta wing jet bomber made it's maiden flight only 7 years after a war in which the Lancaster excelled.
I did not know this craft pre-dated the Hustler. The Vulcan looks more contemporary, hence why I thought it was newer and younger.
Well... I hope they fixed the issue where someone in the co-pilot's seat could insert poison gas into the the aircraft's O2 system. Sorry... flashback to Thunderball :) When I saw that movie as a youngster in the early 60's, I thought the plane was a prop. No way was there an aircraft that wild and cool looking in real life. All we had, was the B-52. It looked like a 50's stationwagon. And then later... the Concord. Man... England really knew how to design great aircraft. The Vulcan was one of, if not THE, greatest looking bomber ever.
Bob Lindley does not get the credit he deserves. He had a hand in the Avro Canuck and Arrow and the space shuttle as well. Roy Chadwick may have given the go ahead for the design, but it was Mr Lindley who came up with the idea for the Vulcan.
And this great aircraft just became available in X-Plane. I think I know what I'll be learning to fly in the next few days ;-)
This film is inspiring and sad. The inspiration comes with the Vulcan itself... It simply looked great and did a great job during the cold war. Vulcan crews should rightly feel proud to have flown these fine aircraft, knowing they helped deter Russia from encroaching on western Europe. But it's sad to know our political masters have allowed our aircraft industry to decline so much. Films like this are like time capsules, which describe and reflect the technology, attitudes and ethos of a distant age.
We still use these techniques for certain composite materials.
Just imagine the old Chap gardening at 8 mins sees the Vulcam fly overhead was born into a world of horsedrawn vehicles and the steam train.Talk about rapid progress brought on by 2 World Wars.
All those witnesses of the first flights say the same thing verbatim: "It stopped traffic in Cheshire because nobody had seen anything like it again". And that means only one thing - THEY ARE LYING.
Irbonically the cockpit was so small tbat John wasn't standing.
When aircraft were art.
This thing was also stealthy 10 times less than a b52
Thanks for this great video
somwhere here on youtube is a docu where they restore and fly this beauty
It's amazing to think that the first flight of the Vulcan was only five years after the first flight of the Convair B-36.
Are you saying the Vulcan was beaten to the claim of being the first delta wing bomber by the Hustler?
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B 36 was not a delta wing aircraft , you are thinking of the B 58 which did not fly until 4 years after the Vulcan. The B 58 was introduced in 1960 and retired in 1970, not only a short but also a very uninspiring career.
@@barrierodliffe4155 Thank you for clearing that up, Barrie! I thought Corrie was referring to the Hustler.
Six years, same as the B-52, which actually flew a few months earlier. And not all that amazing really, the B-36 is impressive as the ultimate example of wartime technology, the sheer size and complexity of it. The Vulcan is a subsonic jet bomber, not a quantuum leap beyond it. The B-58 was only ten years afterwards.
This was narrated by John Standing, which is definitely more exciting than John Sitting
55:12 He set her down like a butterfly with sore feet!
Stolen from the “I landed a KingAir after pilot died”.
What a SHAME Britain no longer has an aircraft industry.
Just to hear those engines one more time...
We were the best 👌
It is sort of sad that none are still flying, but also, it is perfectly understandable, since the operating costs of the engines alone are those of running four (4) Hawker Hunters, or more than quite a lot of countries have an air force budget in total.
Much better than the one featuring John sitting
If UK government had kept this marvellous aircraft like USA kept b52....
The B-52 has an advantage over the V-bombers and the XB-70 Valkyrie: its engines are mounted in pods. As newer engines were developed, it was relatively easy to create an adapter pod. With new engines, it was worth to update the electronic equipment as well. But the Vulcan has its engines inside. Any new powerplant would have to be the same size, and the retrofit would be very expensive.
Vincit Veritas by the 1980s the Vulcan had lost its main role of a strategic bomber to the Polaris armed submarines, which were hardervto destroy than the bombers even if they were dispersed.
Alex Lopez it wasn't so much the engines that killed off the Vulcan, but equipment in hard to reach places that had reached the end of its design life. The Vulcan's longevity was the problem. The designers had expected the airframes to be retired long before the 1980s.
At 8:12 that Avro 707 is going round the corner on the ground incredibly fast! Try that with most aircraft and they'd ground loop or tip over.
I have the Original Side Slip Indicator Taken from XH558 and Presented to me by Chief Engineer Andrew Edmundson during her re-build at Bruntingthope if anyone is interested in buying it
So far as I know Chris it's a slip & Bank indicator, I can send you a picture but not for a few months cus I just left UK for the winter. For me it's priceless as it was a personal gift from the engineer (Andy Edmunson) who was charged with the rebuild to put XH558 back in the air on the Vulcan to the Sky Project... He presented it to me personally for my contribution to the rebuild....My story is so deep but finally he betrayed me..Make an offer if your interested, /Regards Toby
Then keep it. Because you will regret selling it. I love history and as an aviation maintenance engineer it would be cool but I dont have a story behind it.
All too common story, get the punters and suckers to pay for it telling them later how unforeseen circumstances forced a change of mind and it wasn't really ours and the real owner wants it back now that all the work has been done..
It is quite hilarious that the film director (2006 ??) has casually inter-mixed the Mk.1 and Mk.2 variants. Perhaps this happened during the 1950-60's. [Aussie in BC]
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Imagine what that airframe could do with modern electronics and engines.
The best in the world
I worked in Bae, 1982, Falklands vulcans
Black buck ❤👍👍👍 yep 1982 i was there
No structural issues on vulcans, 8 vulcans did an attack on usa to test their defence, 6 got through undetected with nuclear bombs
That opening CGI sequence tho lol...
Sick to death with all these know all cnts. Go away and leave us Patriots alone.
@8:42 I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter!
It's very considerate of the British to put targets on their planes.😀
That is why I am concerning, that Canadian developed and made, one of the >>> CF-105 Avro "ARROW" >>>,(RF 202 or 206), has successfully escaped from being cut to the pieces by Canadian torches, and being untouched somehow ended up in Britain, because it was the same AV Ro. Company, which made the BOTH airplanes: CF-105 Avro ARROW (Arctic interceptor) & then Avro VULCAN (Arctic bomber) !!!!!
quite informative.. however, why, at 50:27 is the crewman wearing what appears to be a Victor patch? inquiring minds want to know...
Victor pilots went on to fly the Vulcan.
How many were built with the the straight leading edge wing. Something no one mentions.
Music composed by L Ron Hubbard!
some say that Swedish drakken was the first delta wing aircraft.
But not a 70 ton bomber
The SAAB Draken is a double delta and first flew 3 years after the Vulcan, also a year after the Fairey Delta II.
I believe the German rocket powered Komet came earlier.
Anyone who says that is a moron.
Is there footage of Roly doing that barrel roll?
@Derek Todd.. Yes. look for Avro Delta Formation. It's about halfway through straight after take off. Tony Blackman performing a loop is out there somewhere.
Correction.. air show vulcan rolls at farnborough .. will get you there.
don’t think the term ‘movies4men’ would fly today, though the Vulcan doesn’t either so do what you want with that
I like the film says 'the first time any delta wing aircraft had flown in Britain" and people just hear "the first delta wing aircraft ever flown". They wouldn't specify "in Britain" if it was the first delta in the world. The Avro 707 was not the first delta. the Saab Draken was not the first delta. Like, google is a thing. Wikipedia is a thing. Literally two minutes can solves these questions for anyone who really wants to know.
Vulcans airframe was the only one strong enough for low level
Vulcans helps develop concord
Those was built during the cold war for deep penetration into the Sovie tunion, I think they carried two high yield hydrogen bombs.the Russians didn't stand a chance against French British, and American bombers"what a nightmarish scenario🤔🙄
BRITISH BEAUTY
I noticed the engines were very close to the fuselage like the infamous Comet passenger jet. Was there ever any problems like with the Comet?
The Comet's major issues were structural, not related to the engines or their placement. 3 Comets were lost in 12 months in '53/'54 and the investigations eventually revealed that square window corners developed up to eight times the load stress as the rest of the fuselage skin and the aircraft had been designed to be glued and riveted but was built riveted only.
Once improvements were made (consider the timeline of large jet development) the Comet airframe went on to have a long but chequered career: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_Nimrod
Comet never had any problems with the engines. They thought it was possibly engine fires for the first year or so until they finally found that it was problems with metal fatigue in the fuselage. The Comet and Vulcan both had the drawback of buried engines, which is difficulty of access for maintenance, risk from fire, increased vibration and noise, heat management problems, etc. But not "problems" the way you seem to be suggesting.
Is that Peter Jones doing the narration?
Which Vulcan had that howl at 20:38???
The most beautiful howl I have ever heard
What’s the music used?
And that roll is an exactly one G manoeuvre, so that is not unbelievabĺe at all. You can roll all airplanes in the world that way. Just keep clear of Mother Earth.
She sure is beautiful
Vulcans can out turn and climb any fighter
B52s are no comparison
The modern B-52 can launch nuclear cruise missiles this aircraft should be able to do the same it was carrying two large missiles or it can carry anti-ship missiles
It did. The last years of the V-Force was as missile carriers with nuclear missiles. But is it worth paying for that as well as gorund based and sea based missiles? UK goverment didn't think so. They really only outfitted them that way because they had already paid for the planes and they needed SOMETHING for them to do. The US keep B-52s in service because they have money to pour down the drain, not because we really need them.
We used to wake up, half an hour before we went to sleep, lick run-way clean wit' tongue, then work; twenty-seven hours a day, ten days a week, down at Avro factory......AND, we used to have t'pay manager f't apprenticeship!.... Tell that t'kids t'day, and they'll not believe ya."....
Git.
Farn-bruh Airshow.
Yep, that is how you say it. Congratulation. Just like Edinburgh, and the rest. Many words in English are not pronounced the way they are spelled.
So the Concorde was inspired by the Vulcan?
Concord definatly got its engines and it doesn't take a far stretch of the imagination to see some similar design inspiration from the vulcan.
No. It wasn't.
Me and my Clifford were in charged
Its NO, AVRO Arrow ,
20:48 unfortunate name
God of fire
Low level vulcans 🖖
Volatol
Volatol gta 5
A test pilot wearing a suit and tie it just don't look right I mean how come you don't have a flat suit I seen RAF pilots were flight suits in world war II I mean why don't he have a flat suit why the hell is he wearing a suit and tie it's just looks ridiculous
It is for the cameras dude. they thought it was important to look sharp on camera.
I will say the Vulcan looks really impressive, but over its entire active life span of 30ish years, its credited for putting some potholes in a runway and taking out a couple radar structures? Damn, talk about a massively immense waste of time and money lol. No wonder even as a moderate aviation fan I hadnt ever even heard of it until the other day..
There for prevention. Think you should change your name to tosser, because your existing one is a misnomer.
It successfully infiltrated US airspace not once, but twice under the noses of the prowling ADF. War game scenario with a simulated nuclear payload, uncle sam got his delivery both times.
so much of this footage is clearly fake and so many times misleading
Always the negative.
None of it is "fake", it is representational. They didn't have gopros and the camera technology we have today back then, they had to film things in a controlled environment. No one actually expected the scenes being shown on the screen to be ACTUAL footage of the subject, it was like a "dramatic reproduction". As for the rest, the people making the documentary in 2006 have to pick and chose from the footage that exists. Would you rather they just showed a blank screen when talking about something that they didn't have footage for, is that better in your mind than choosing something that looks similar to what is being discussed? They can't go out and take new footage, the planes are all out of service. Deal with it.
Everywhere german technology. Delta wings, axial flow engines
Whatever, dude.
No German technology, the Delta wing developed in Britain had nothing from a non existent German drawing, and Britain made working axial flow engines from 1942
@@barrierodliffe4155 dream on with your bullshit
@@MultiMetaldemon What bullshit? The man is correct.
Gorazd Psenner the Metro-Vick F.2 axial-flow compressor turbo-jet was indvelopment since 1941 and was being flight tested in 1942. A long time before we ever got hold of any German axial-flow jet engines. Swept and deltawings were being theorised as needed for high speed flight in the 1930s, but only the Germans had flown one before tge end of WW2.
hide your knife lmfao!
Top of the range..Wonder how politicians that kill time,money,dedication,ideas,enthusiasm,skill,craftsmanship etc..at the stroke of a pen,sleep at night..