Greatest Villain in Jurassic Park (with Klayton Fioriti)
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- čas přidán 16. 02. 2018
- Another collaboration with fellow JP CZcamsr, Klayton Fioriti. Here, we talk about who the greatest villain in the JP series is. Who had the best master plan? Who was the biggest threat? Who was the most despicable character?
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In the book, Nedry is painted in a very different light, and I'm surprised you haven't discussed that.
Nedry took the work on a contract basis and was actually told very little about what he was working on. In fact, the book mentions the project he bid on was described as 'a system for record keeping'. Hammond expanded the contract without paying for it, and when Nedry tried to get out, InGen actually destroyed his professional reputation by writing letters to his other contract clients. The book mentioned how the project put him into financial ruin and his debts were destroying him, but Hammond refused to pay more money.
Regarding Nedry, they've kind of re-interpreted his financial situation, because in the book it is stated, that hammond actually kind of "blackmailed" him to do a lot more than he is paid for, because they argued the initial agreement involved any additional work, that is necessary to make the system work. Also in the books, Hammond is not as "nice" as in the movie. So basically, you could "defend" nedrys motivation in regards of the book but not so much in the movie :)
I agree. The book went more in-depth into Nedry's situation, and even gave him a backstory. He basically signed on for one thing, and Hammond demanded A LOT more than that without any pay increase or further compensation, so he felt like he was highly taken advantage of. He also had a lot of student debt if I remember correctly. We don't really get this in the movie because we know literally nothing about Nedry there, so we have no reason to believe he's been mistreated. It could just be his interpretation of the situation, rather than the reality of it.
Then again, the book has changed a-lot from the Movie, and from what I heard, the movie is regarded more cannon then the books. But I always liked the idea Nedry was blackmailed into it, because he had the skill, and knew if he could screw over hammond while making progress, and the oppertunity to make tons of money, while screwing over the man he hated.
Until I read the book, I interperted Hammond's comments to Nedry about his financial problems to mean that Nedry was deeply in debt to the wrong people (think gambling debts).
I liked Roland for his chivalry displayed in the bar scene.
Yes I think that Roland wasnt so much a villain as he was an "Anti-hero".His goal was dark,his motives were questionable but underneath there was a good and honourable side to him too.
Roland Tembo is definitley not a villain. He's an anti-hero.
Here’s a brief description for each of the villains.
Nedry- sloppy greedy villain.
Ludlow- greedy corporate villain.
Roland- anti hero.
Hoskins- military madman.
Henry Wu- mad scientist.
Jacob Lovorn iai
So true
Deathcoldan I say Henry Wu.
Jacob Lovorn Henry isn’t really a bad guy??
Connor Reed Yes he is. He doesn't know it...But he is
I'd say Denis Nedry because if it wasn't for him, Jurassic Park probably wouldn't have went down and would have eventually been released to the public AND the rest of the people who died from every movie wouldn't have died. So every single death from the franchise is on Nedry.
You know I was thinking about this watching the video, and had come to that conclusion but the time they started talking about Roland. I would also amend to that that Wu is a close second, in that Wu is geneticist behind the animals in the first Jurassic Park and for the Spinosaurus in the third movie.
Undim Except for Joffrey's at the beginning of the movie, which is what led to everyone coming to the island in the first place.
Nick Van Owen #1
I disagree that the park would've gone online and been fine. You're forgetting that the dinosaurs were breeding on the island (Not to mention that they had all sorts of other bugs in the systems, which is why Nedry was there in the first place). Even beyond that, if we look at the book, the dinosaurs wild born dinosaurs were escaping the island via supply boat. While that might not be canon to the movie, I imagine that something very similar may have eventually happened if the dinosaurs continued to breed. This is even barring the possibility that a bad storm may have knocked out their power eventually, or some other natural disaster. Death on the island was inevitable.
Enrique Yanez If anything Nedry saved more lives than he caused the deaths of. The defenses and security were not up to par for what they were making.
This was amazing and very refreshing to listen to! The Jurassic franchise has such a great variety of antagonists. Great work guys. Now onto Indy vs Spino.
Terrordome 3000 hi
The greatest villian in Jurassic park was Mr DNA.
I don't trust that guy.
Hahahahaha. I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but that was a good comment.
I agree he just has that look
he makes up everything, of course you can't trust him.
Yea you can't trust mr.DNA
He’s the most evil guy
I felt bad for Ludlow because he realized his mistake at the end and when Malcolm put him in his place you could see his regret.
Realizing he screwed up and understanding he was wrong are two different things. I feel he only felt he didn't think things through, not that he shouldn't have bothered in the first place.
Nah if he learned anything he wouldn't have gone after the Baby Rex at the end. He got what was coming to him.
The I see it Roland Tembo is an anti hero, he has antagonist qualities, but certainly not a villain
eddiehoplight2003 hes not a villian at all
Ingen hired him to lead the hunter teams in order to tranq and capture the dinosaurs. Timbo had no want or need to participate in that. All he wanted was to hunt a male T rex. When he finally got his chance to kill the male rex, Nick prevented that. Also, Timbo wasn't trying to hunt the rex in the scene where the rex was attacking the camp. He was trying to kill it in order to defend the men. His best chance of stopping the rex(es) from attacking the hunters (Who were ignorant as to what was going on.) Was to tranq it at that point. So he did just that. He tranqued the rex. This is where Timbo felt guilt, because his tranqing of the rex ultimately turned out to be a bonus for Ludlow and INGen. He didn't want to help InGen, he just wanted to hunt the most predominant predator on the planet; Not capture it. This is why Timbo helped Ian and company, as compared to Ludlow's (Get in get out) mentality. In the end, Timbo was just there to hunt the most dangerous predator on the planet, and didn't give a fuck about InGen's agenda. Once he realized he was a pawn, he walked away. I would barely describe timbo as an antihero. I do describe him as one, but only because that's what was implied in the movie. If anything, He was just some guy with a big game passion and in the end he learned that big game hunting was wrong.
Roland was a good anti-hero, if he was in Jurassic Park one or in Jurassic world he would have been a Hero trying to fight off The raptors or T-Rex, Or help hunt the I-Rex.
Roland is a professional really
@@scoobysnak07 yeah he was the badass of jp2
No, the greatest villain in Jurassic Park is that very first Brachiosaur we see. She was behind EVERYTHING.
She convinced Hammond to pay Nedry so little.
She convinced Nedry to ally himself with BioSyn.
She convinced Dr. Wu that there was no un-authorized breeding in Jurassic Park.
She told the dilophosaurus where Nedry was.
She turned the power off by snaking her incredibly long neck into the bunker.
She broke the raptor fences.
She let Rexy out (tiny arms can't break electric fences).
She set up the raptor/t-rex fight, just so she could watch them kill each other, by making a hole in the visitor center large enough for Rexy to fit through.
She went full-on Sith Lord.
ClEvEr GiRl.
lol
That’s actually a good theory
I think that Wu's whole character can be summed up by being an overly ambitious artist with the dinosaurs as his canvas. He has done something remarkable, brought a life form back from extinction to be viable organisms from nothing but rocks. He was satisfied with just getting the dinosaurs up and running, but he had to express himself more with the hybridization project to prove his mastery of genetics. Of course Masrani shut that down, stifling his creativity to continue doing what is now old hat busy work for him.
When Hoshkins comes with the Indominous project, it was a chance to flex his genetic engineering chops once again. What they were going to use it for didn't matter, the fact that he would be doing something that was just as daring and controversial as making velociraptors back in the day to get that same rush. Then he would fully express himself. Then he would get the recognition he deserves as a genius. In the end, you could sum up his attitude in World in one sentence:
"Where is my Nobel Prize!?!?!"
Not an unreasonable question for what he done in all honesty.
I know this was made before fallen kingdom, but Eli Mills is the greatest villain. Here's why: he went behind Benjamin Lockwood's back to create the indoraptor and auction off the dinosaurs. Then he even kills Lockwood. He tries to take maisie as well because she's a clone of Lockwood's daughter.
Mills is also in my opinion the best JP villain. The tricked the protagonists to go back to the Island to get Blue and at the end, he sold most of the dinosaurs. His plan was almost finished. I think that from all JP villains, he came closest to achieve his goal. And he‘s the first human to kill another human. That makes him at least a little threatening. I like that.
Jason Byrne No. He was the worst, because he was in too much of a wuss. I mean most of his dialogue was just whining and acting like a walking boring corrugated stereotype that’s not even scary, just an annoying little bitch.
William Strother exactly he was the evilest but the worst.
I feel like Hoskins issue is he readily accepts collateral damage. As I recall, his whole thing is using these animals to cut down on military losses. That's to an extent a admirable end goal, using an animal instead of human soldiers. But he seems fine with sacrificing citizens lives it it might save even more in the end. That's my take on Hoskins.
Yep. Doing experiment on civilians for saving soldiers' lives is a psychopathic thing to do.
Hoskins was just an idiot if you ask me, His Idea of using organic Dinosaurs in the modern battlefield is just eye rolling bad, no military is going to buy million dollar dinosaurs who can be put down with one good bullet.
@@Historyfan476AD
Sometimes idiots can cause huge damage too
I feel like Wu is more of a tragic villain, if you can call it that, he started out at Jurassic Park as this humble man that was very passionate about his work but as time passed slowly that passion became twisted, and like with the Indominus, he tried to play god by making abominations of nature.
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Breach RaptorNEW He wasn't trying to play god, he was just doing his job. You are right, his passion became twisted, but the passion turned into nihilism and he didn't care about anything but making money
He became that way because he lost Hammond, who was his father figure and a benevolent boss.
He was always like that. Malcolm revealed that when he questioned them on "containing life" and denying breeding of animals. Wu just always underestimated freedom and free will of people and animals, like ALL dumb passionate scientists do.
Good point. Wu did avoided Malcolm's questions. With that said, while i do appreciate your opinion, saying Wu was always evil contradicting His relationship with Hammond. Masrani told Wu that Hammond won't defend him this time. Defending Wu indicate Hammond cared about Wu. And Wu wasnt a psychopath. He's evil and arrogant, but not a psychopath. I do believe Wu cared about Hammond.
I didn't think of him as a villain because he cared about people and didn't want to do anything antagonistic except to prove that he deserved to stand where a king once stood.
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@@averypowers1998 I believe he/she refers to Tembo.
Roland is one of my all time favourite characters of the entire franchise. He's the Gentleman Hunter who sticks up for people who maybe aren't as strong as Him. Regarding the deleted Bar Scene, He didn't immediately start fighting with the Guy that was attacking the Woman, I think he gave him a fair chance. As you stated, he didn't take shit but he wasn't an arsehole.
I say " the big one" is the greatest villain of all time. She killed six raptors and Robert. She used the last two surviving raptors as pawns. If Rexy didn't kill her god knows how many more things she could of killed. She was truly a monster in her own right.
nice idea by you and klayton describing the villains in my favorite movie jurassic park
Hoskins was cold and had tunnel vision. Nerdy was a lazy, slovenly jerk. Ludlow was arrogant, dismissive, and business-oriented. Dr Wu is another level character to me. He’s not evil in a typical way. He’s intelligent, hard working, and ambitious. He lacks foresight/thought; the details and consequences do not register. He’s who I feel embodies Malcolm’s quote: “Your scientists [ahem...Wu] we’re so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
I would definitely consider the Kirbies to be villains. They were definitely going to jail for kidnapping after the events of that movie
KLN no the real reason the Kirby’s went to Isla sorna is to look for there son.
Nedry wasn't that bad, he was planning to come back and restore the system, if he wasn't attacked, he'd of fixed things before it went to hell
In the Novel Canon only. We don't know if he planned to do it in the film
this is so good i can dive into the world of jurassic park even further
I didn't think Roland Tembo was a villain because of the bar scene.
Gaming Nerd1993 And because he actually cared about people if they died. He may have told off Dieter for letting the camp get destroyed but when Dieter is missing he sends a small search party and is upset that he's dead. He's extremely sad about Ajay's death. He makes sure no tells Kelly that Dieter is missing and dead ("And for heavens sakes no one tells the little girl.") He shows concern for Sarah when he thinks the blood on her shirt is hers. He lets the team have a small break. Even though he's angry at Ian's group for sabotaging their camp he not only helps them off the cliff but lets them join his group so they can all get off the island together. He could've left them on their own. He doesn't care about the moral debate between Ian and Ludlow and quickly stops the argument so they can hurry up and get off the island. He has no problem explaining to Nick why he's there unlike Ludlow with Ian. He also stops Ludlow making a base camp on the game trail. Roland quickly accepts the reality when the things go wrong. Unlike Ludlow Roland learns when enough is enough and to quit while he's ahead and can't control the situation and that anything with dinosaurs just brings death. He feels every death and feels responsible unlike Ludlow.
@@hannahzografos5729 lol you forgot how he just washed off and make fun of Eddie Carr's death when he said "That Trex's well fed he won't hunt us"
@@hannahzografos5729 Excellent comment
I didn't know that Doctor Wu was a 'bad guy' (he was one of my favorite character)
I liked Nedry because he was portrayed as a computer genius who was completely over-shun in the workplace despite his abilities thus wanting revenge but still always acting a lovable goofy fashion (eventually got him killed after fucking around), but yeah he caused almost every problem in the Jurassic Park universe and his actions ended up killing hundreds of people in the long run. Death in book and movie was pretty brutal however
I am really enjoying this conversation. I am a BIG fan of the entire series. I wish this could be redone adding Wheatley, Eli Mills, Eversol, Rainn, Soyona, and Dodgson.
Henry wu is number one main villain
Everardo Acosta Absolutely.
Pennywise wu in not
tanroop 12 roblox in the book, his reaction to hearing that the raptors were breeding wasn't "oh god, we're screwed" but rather "my god, I'm a genius because this means I've successfully recreated an extinct creature accurately!"
Really, his reaction would be comically missing the point were it not for the dire implications of the situation.
Yea but henry wu was in Jurassic park and he wasn’t evil but now he is
I think it's Lewis Dodgson who's number 1
Nick Van Owen (Vince Vaughn) was the biggest villain in the franchise by being in idiot . He single handidly was responsible for every death in Jurrasic Park 2. For real . Look at his actions . 1) Nick Van Owen for no good reason brings the baby Trex back to the crews trailer causing the death of Eddie Carr and endangering all of his crew. All his crews communication equipment is destroyed . 2) Before that incident , Van Owen breaks into the ingen camp for no good reason and releases all the dinosaurs causing injuries , possible deaths and destroying all their communication equipment and transportation. ... because of the trex incident , the adult trexes hunt all the humans . All the humans killed by the trexes are a consequence of Van Owens actions . Also Van Owen stole Tembos bullets and Tembo wasn’t able to kill the Trex . Instead he put it down with a tranquilizer which resulted in the Rex being shipped to San Diego . So as a result all the characters killed on the boat and in San Diego are also a result of Van Owens actions
Daniel Serrano I feel like if you’re going to argue that ensuing deaths based on a choice make you a villain, then Maisie is more of a villain than Nick and technically, probably, the biggest villain of them all. Nick, to me, is more of a bleeding heart who didn’t consider the consequences of his actions, again, just like Maisie, but people seem more forgiving to her because she’s a child.
srayj agree fuck Maisie
srayj I mean come on she let out dinosaurs
Who cares that she’s a girl if I was next to her and she did that I would kill her
i was just meditating on that last scene with Roland.
I mean how much of a bad ass was he going straight at the male Trex and about to kill it with a shotgun.
Van Ownen was the real villain in the Lost World. He was responsible for the most deaths on the island because he released the dinosaurs wrecking the Ingen teams camp forcing them on their quest to leave the island which cost so many lives.
This vid. needs a redux w/ you and Fioriti, ASAP! Love your video's, anyhow! :D
It's either Hoskins or Wu for me. One of the things I liked most about Jurassic World was the way it upped the villains.
Nedry took a bid for the job, without knowing the full extent of the job. He spent all his time fixing bugs and on the phone talking to his team. He was putting in a lot of work Jurrasic Park needed him and he didn't feel appreciated
For me it's Henry Wu. In his vainglorious pursuit of a scientific legacy he toys with powerful science that's still, after all the incidents, is not treated with respect. He is the mad scientist at the heart of Jurassic Park and what's worse he's intelligent enough to realize that it's wrong, but simply doesn't care.
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It was Dodgson. He was the one who wanted the embryos. Nedry just did it for him.
(Possible Fallen Kingdom spoilers)
I think that dr. Wu is the greatest villain in the end. Mostly because at the end of the day he’s too full of himself to not realize just what he’s doing and why others have been against it. He essentially believes that as long as he’s capable of making it happen he can and should do it.
I mean think about what Ian Malcolm said in the first movie about the science they were doing. What he said about the Jurassic Park scientists is 100% Dr Wu’s character in a nutshell. All he cares about is progress for progress’s sake and that it’s completely his right to continue doing what he’s been doing. His very hubris is what’s made him, in my opinion, the greatest villain.
Another reason why he’s the worst is because he refuses to understand what is wrong with his very creation. Sure in the newest movie he shows during the auction scene that he knows the dinosaurs, or at least the hybrid ones, are definitely dangerous, but since he’s never truly been around the real danger when everything goes wrong, he just doesn’t get how seriously wrong he is. Basically what I’m saying is that dr. Wu is both a scientific genius and a complete dumbass at the same time. Genius because he was able to do what he did in the first place. Dumbass because he hasn’t learned anything about why he needs to stop and why continuing his work is the greatest mistake of his life/ career. Cause he may very well go down in the history of the film series as the reason humankind goes extinct.
Don't forget that Hammond said that he expected Nedry to pay for his mistakes, so he could have made a stupid decision with his money and Hammond wouldn't give him a raise.
Great now I wanna play Jurassic Park: Rampage edition on Sega Genesis
I always found Ludlow kinda reasonable. His uncle was about to die so I think it's understandable that he would fire him. Also according to Malcolm he had a a wife and kids. He also only wanted to take herbivorous until the only choice was one t-rex then when it broke out he tried to kill it but keep the baby because it could be domesticated. He was still greedy but not as bad as the other's.
Misrani is also a villain, He did some under the table shit to fuck up the gene guard act , and that was Hammonds dream
It's not what your raptor can do for you but what you can do for your raptor
Hammond was and always will be the biggest villain to me.
He always manipulated people, it’s all about his grand design and he only really cares about the dinos!
Saying that I always wanted the Hammond from the book WHO WAS A VILLAIN!
1:58 (2:27) Oh, I always thought that he put shaving cream on his pie and ate it. He knowingly did it.
Congrats on 10k subs :)
The best villain in the Jurassic Park series, is, uh,... chaos. Because chaos, you see, not only thwarts our, uh uh, our ‘heroes’ so to speak, but it menaces our villains and the dinosaurs themselves. Chaos is the, uh, permeating force throughout, uh, pretty much everything that’s happened since 1993.
It is the force that uh, results in the park going down, and the man who took it down being killed, and uh, uh, later the, uh, the dinosaurs being killed, by the volcano.
Chaos... is an obstacle for us all. It is, uh, the... penultimate antagonist.
I think InGen was the offscreen villain for JP 3, because it kind of starts the "InGen is making messed up crap on the down low" idea.
One thing those four haven in common is they are blinded; Nedry and Ludlow by greed, Hoskin by his ambition and Wu was blinded by his pride
I really want Dr. Wu to be the final boss, perhaps go full mad scientist and try to create the ultimate hybrid that will take over the world and return it to the dinosaurs.
I know it's been two years now but I'd like to see of you guys have done a best badass character in the Jurassic series.
Coincidently they were all killed by what I think are the most dangerous dinosaurs depicted in the franchise: Dilophasaurus (Nedry), Rex (Ludlow), and Raptors (Wun in the novel and Hoskins).
Hoskins seems to have been waiting for his chance to take over, and was prepared for it
I would say in the movie continuity that Dr. Wu is the greatest villain since he's more of a master planner and looks like he's the end game bad guy but I wish Biosyn were in the main bad guys in the movies like they were in the novels, video games and comics. They are more of a ruthless corporate organization and in some stories like in the game, they have their own para military. I love they're corperate espionage war with InGen and wish it was shown to the movie audiences.
I think in the entire franchise, the greatest villain is chaos itself.
Love the video
Dennis Nedry singlehandedly destroyed Jurassic Park by shutting down the power and messing with those security fences-provoking Rexy to escape from her paddock and lay waste to everything, which eventually devastated the whole park and ultimately depriving it off its future and to the public.
Klayton sounds like dream
This is a question for both of you. Would roland be able to fare better than muldoon against the raptors?
Good question
Nedry's dumbest thing was not rigging the monitors to make the other control workers think everything was normal while the systems were all shutting down. And if he was such a talented programmer, that should have been relatively easy for him to do.
From how I experience them, all of the human villains have one parallel that connects them; disrespect. Nedry and Ludlow were both after money in their individual ways and didn't pay much respect to the dinosaurs nor their fellow people. The same also applies to Hoskins with an additional crazy streak for power through harnessing the animals as biological weapons. Wu is consumed by his career and scientific power to create life, unwittingly at the expense of human lives. As villains, though, none of them are exactly formidable, just unlikable. Whereas the dinosaurs definitely are the true antagonists, they just have more personality and aren't plain villainous(with the exception of the two hybrids).
Dinoslay k,
The greatest human villain in Jurassic Park? Hmm....that depends, are we strictly the movies, or can we include the novels? If so, then I have a hard time choosing between Novel Hammond and Lewis Dodgnson.
Novel Hammond was just.....how can anyone be....this guy is the MAIN REASON I prefer the movie version of Jurassic Park (I still like the book). All he cared about was the money that the park would bring him. He didn't listen to ANY reason, even some that DIDN'T come from Malcolm. He didn't care his own GRANDCHILDREN were out in the park, IN DANGER, he just believed the situation was always in control, despite it being obvious it wasn't. Plus, after all of it, ALL of it, he didn't learn a SINGLE THING! His next intentions was to start all over again, with a fresh start.
Lewis Dodgnson was just a jerk, and he did some pretty messed up experiments in his past. Can't remember exactly what they were, but I remember them being pretty bad. However, I'm more welcome to his actions because the book told me "this guy is the villain." Hammond left a more sour taste because I read his character after watching his complete opposite film portrayal.
Now, if we stick to the movies:
I think you guys were too hard on Nedry. Now, was he responsible for the entire chaos, yes. However, you guys over looked that when he turned off the fences, A. He had to, in order to reach the east dock, and B. he only intended to be gone for 15 MINUTES.
The plan was: Disable security and fences, steal the embryos, drop the can off at the east dock, COME BACK, and reset everything, all in the span of several minutes.
The rest I think you guys did justice, so I guess my final answer would be:
Books included: Lewis Dodgnson
Movies only: Peter Ludlow
darthlord1997 I haven't read the books yet but after reading you're amazing comment. I wish they'd included the villians/opposite character portrayals in the books. For me going by the movies I would say Henry Wu.
Hannah Zografos book Hammond has such a big ego that he expected to live past 100 and create numerous other parks. Not only did he not care about his grandchildren's safety, it's implied that he didn't care about them PEROID-he admits to himself that the only reason he let them come to the park (besides their parents' divorce) was because he had hoped it would assuage some of Gennaro's worries about the park
Gaby George Agreed, Novel John Hammond was very much a dick, same with Lewis Dodgson.
@@charlessugg6102 Dodgson was worse. He was pure evil. The novel even tell it with a giant neon sign. His dubious experiments led to at least 10 casualties, at least one of them was a child. He was Mills 23 years before Mills.
Your Caps Lock button must hate you.
Technically the only villains in JP are those who have blood on their hands...using that as the basis number 1. John Hammond [for forcing the creation of the dinos] 2. Wu [for creating and reengineering the dinos DNA] 3. Ludlow/Van Owen [Ludlow sending the ingen team (Van Owen for loosing the dinos and stealing baby rex causing the chaos on both the island and San Diego)]. 4. Nedry again causing the deaths of at least 3 people. These people are villains as their actions directly resulted in the chaos. IMO...not to mention amanda Kirby for letting her BF take her son parasailing...causing 4 deaths...
I was bout to say Wu is like Dr. Frankenstei...annnnnd Klayton said it
I remember there's a line that was cut out of Jurassic World where after he jumps onto the helicopter, he says something like ingen isn't the only people that can create this
I just realized while watching this that when Malcom says “Now your John Hammond” it’s also a little of a reference to the book because in the book John is killed by his creation. The way he is killed though is directly pulled from Dodgson’s death scene in The Lost World novel. Also Dodgson is my favorite villain, although he isn’t given justice in the movies
"I've sent enough time in the company of death.'" referring both to InGen and the literal specter of death that had plagued them since their arrival on the island.
Yes, Nedry bid for the job. But like a lot of bosses who hire on contract, Hammond wasn't clear on what the job was so that Nedry could give him a quote that would reflect how MUCH work would be needed and what the rate of pay should be. Evidently he bid for one job, but then Hammond began piling more work on that what Nedry had bid for, and THAT is why he got greedy. The fact that he shut down EVERYTHING endangering the people on the island IS still absolutely DESPICABLE. But one might argue that Hammond and Wu were (at the least) short-sighted for making a dino park that included predators as dangerous as T-Rex and Velociraptor, and a "first-class" scientist like Wu didn't understand that some species of frogs have been known to change sex when he added that DNA, but paleontologist Grant knew that info.
33:04 thats an actually good impression
Fun Discussion
I really loved this video, but it is difficult to choose a greatest villain when everyone makes decisions with subjective weights given to the villains' philosophies, intentions, and outcomes.
I bet hammond would paid denis more once the park was fully working. I bet though denis wanted be paid 1 million or more. I bet if got that payment he just left working there not finish his job.
If nedry never was hired nothing bad like this would have happened
Hindsight
I always thought that the reason they cut the bar fight was bc it was kinda similar to Nerdy's meeting with Dodgson
Can you do an episode with you guys discussing about what dinosaurs or prehistoric animals can actually beat the Indominus Rex; Land and sea; Before the dinosaurs, when the dinosaurs and after the dinosaurs
It’s Henry wu. That guy creeps me out because he survives EVERY SINGLE MOVIE
I'll try be brief;
Nedry - I think there is more to his backstory and why he did what he did,one could imagine that he had signed up a contract for his work,but ran into problems and would have had to do a lot extra but when he asked for more money Hammond refuses,also possiby something that he had done as Hammond does say that he does ask that people pay for their mistakes.
Ludlow - Pretty much a CEO/Director type. He does need to make money to recoup losses from the original park. So in a sense he was just doing his job and he was trying to be cut throat about it,so in a sense not really that much of a villain.
Hoskins - Same deal he is just trying to do his job,I mean as far a weaponising the animals well one could argue that it is an evil agenda and possibly only a pawn under Wu and his ideas but still not that much of a villain....
Wu on the otherhand.....now he is really a villain,whilst he comes across as just doing his job and obviously a bit of a hero as to bringing back Dinosaurs in JP1,his transition into the mad scientist with no bounds or scruples tips him into villain territory with what he is doing in regard to actually weaponising the Indoraptor and playing around with the other animals in the Jurassic World lab....and then the later selling off of dinosaurs so that he could make more money to further his research into gene splicing....
The real villain of the serie JP is: GREED.
Nice video
Interesting to note most of these guys brought their own deaths to themselves.
Nedry shut off the power which resulted in the dilophosaurus escaping and eating him.
Ludlow brought the buck rex and infant to San Diego which eventually trapped him on the SS Venture an then the infant ate him.
Hoskins has the raptors go for a test run, one came back to the lab and killed him, despite his attempts to control it.
I can’t really decide who is the best villain, they’re all pretty despicable people.
After seeing Fallen Kingdom, I think I can say that Eli Mills could be considered the most evil of the villains without giving away any spoilers.
I beg to differ. He makes Nedry look like a ace secret agent. Aside from Lockwood, he never did anything except argue with Dr.Wu like a baby wanting his bottle. I swear greedy corporate villains are among the lamest villains in any franchise. They are almost never smart and have real depth to them, they were put there to be someone the audience could (yes that is the point), yet comes as annoying instead of threatening. Hell Claire even grabed by the arm and he screamed like little bitch. He even ran from a Stigymoloch, a herbivore. WOW, what a joke.
William Strother sorry but that doesn’t age him any less evil. Nothing you said does. Mills isn’t the best villain but he’s the evilest.
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Yep. The problem with Mills is that he was more of a wannabe Lewis Dodgson (which is why I think that they're actually bringing back the actual Lewis Dodgson - played by Campbell Scott this time - but I do believe that they were planning to bring him back since Jurassic World, but they couldn't because Cameron Thor (Dodgson's original actor) was arrested in 2013) and I kinda question whether Hoskins actually did work together with Mills, considering Mills' rash and hotheaded behaivour.
My theory is that Dodgson was working with Hoskins and Wu in secret, while Mills was just a means to an end.
But I kinda liked how Fallen Kingdom gave us a villain who we can cheer when he meets it's demise. I admit I actually cheered when Mills got eaten by Rexy.
He isn't the best villain, but he is the 2nd most evil character in the franchise, Dodgson (Novel Canon and possibly after 2022 in the Movie Canon) being the top 1 most evil character.
I go for nedry and ludlow they are great antagonist for Jurassic Park and The Lost World Jurassic Park.
dr henry wu is the number 1 villian he the one that create indominus
Nguyễn Duy I completely 100% agree. The whole scene where Masrani confronts Wu, shows Wu as the Villain; more so than Hoskins who is the secondary Villian. Especially when you consider some of the lines Wu says to Masrani in that scene like: "All of this exists because of me. If I don't innovate, somebody else will." and " "Monster" is a relative term. To a canary, a cat is a monster. We're just used to being the cat." Wu's voice tone, body language, awareness, control, power, intelligence and complete disregard for human life along with Masrani's reaction which is shock, horror and the realisation that he's in control and never has but Wu's.
Nguyễn Duy and the Indoraptor,man he's unstoppable
Even without the Board scene and the him breaking the baby Rex’s leg, I hated Ludlow from the start. To me he presented himself as a rich snobby condescending ‘I’m better than you because I’m rich and you’re not’ asshole that you just wanted to punch in the face.
He’s the muggle version of Lucius Malfoy. His weapon is his money.
I'd argue that Dr. Wu is the closest the series has to the true "villain" archetype;
He's wicked smart.
He works largely in secret while projecting a diminutive, relatively harmless outer persona, laying the foundation for every disaster in the entire franchise from behind the scenes and out of the spotlight.
Death and destruction mean nothing to him, as long as it doesn't prevent him from achieving his goals.
Despite all this, very few people think of him as a threat.
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Matthew Modine should’ve been cast as a villain in Fallen Kingdom. Pvt. Joker from Full Metal Jacket. When you think about it, Vincent D’Onofrio from Jurassic World (Head of INGEN), was Pvt. Pyle from Full Metal Jacket. Arliss Howard from Jurassic Park: Lost World (Head of INGEN), was Pvt. Cowboy also from Full Metal Jacket.
I'd say Nick Van Owen, though not evil, was by action a villain... in the lost world, everyone who died, did so because of his actions.
... you know, been rethinking it, John Hammond is really the Villain, he spared no expense to fund the research to bring dinosaurs back to life, and he's the one who sent Nick Van Owen with the intent to sabotage the Ingen camp... without him, no one would have been killed by Dinosaurs
with your logic muldoon is the villian of jp. he is the warden, he is supposed to keep order so is it not his fault for every killing
The greatest threat was Dr Henry Wu (but he was not a villain he was just doing his work). The greatest threat really were the dinosaur like Indominus Rex, T- Rex, Raptors etc and if Wu wasn't there no dinosaur were there.
i'd say Dr. Wu
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“NEDRY! WE GOT NEDRY!”
People fight over who the villain was in JP3, but I genuinely think that the villain was the Spinosaurus😂
Lol the Kirby's too.
The thing with hoskins is it seems like they were trying to use him as example of how money and power can corrupt a man because the wolf story seemed as though they were trying to make it look like he was a decent person in the past
I wish they brought Lewis Dodgson back from the book series into the film series. He would be the definitive villain of the franchise if they did. Maybe they could bring in a new actor to play Dodgson’s son (Dodgson from the first movie could be Lewis’ dad for the film series). They can’t bring back actor Cameron Thor from the first movie because of his scandal. But they could simply get around that by hiring a new actor to play Dodgson Jr.
Lewis Dodgson is actually coming back along with BioSyn in Jurassic World Dominion. Not his son, the actual Lewis Dodgson.
Roland stands by his convictions which makes him like able despite being antagonistic.
In terms of my favourite villain i would have to say Hoskins. He's a very enjoyable character to watch, and he does have some points that do make sense. Though he is mostly a sleazy guy. In the end he died thinking he had control over Delta.
However the most intriguing villain would have to be Henry Wu. Not only does Jurassic World add to his backstory, but also makes him out to be a guy who is drunk on the power of creation himself. To the point where he would work with hoskins to improve his 'creations'.
Dr. Wu is exactly what Ian Malcom warned about in the first film: "Your scientists were too busy thinking about if they could that they didn't bother to stop and think about if they *should*."
Greg Heffely from Diary of a Wimpy Kid is the greatest villain. He’s pulling the strings and manipulating things.
Darth Tyrannus yup
The thing about nedry, at least as it was expanded upon in the original book, is yes he bid for the job, but he did that job. They then had to bring him in to fix issues with the system he designed, but weren't willing to pay him any extra to do all that extra work.
Doesn't exactly make what he did better, but at least there's a better reason than "I like money"
I’d say Nedry because if it wasn’t for him, the whole Jurassic park incident wouldn’t have happened. Also, why did he have the brutalist and gory death in the whole franchise? Because he was the greatest villain :)
Dodgson from the lost world novel is by far the most notorious villain. They should have had him instead of Ludlow.
Dr Wu I believe is the main villain in the entire Jurassic Park franchise! But also he created these dinos in the first place... but what happens when he didn't know what he created can cause so much damage?
Roland and Van Owen....did nobody else catch the reference to Roland, the Headless Thompson Gunner by Warren Zevon there?