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Ford GAA test run
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2019
- First test run after full overhaul. Ford V8 tank engine, gas powered, it displaces 1100cu (18 L). The Ford GAA engine is an American all-aluminum 32-valve DOHC 60-degree V8 engine engineered and produced by the Ford Motor Company just before, and during, World War II.
You could cruise down the highway at damn near idle with that thing. Imagine building it for even more power and higher RPM's....
Sorry to hear of your passing, Mr. Saget.
@@natem1234 not actually him lol. I made this profile when Tourettes Guy was the funniest thing on the internet and couldn't think of a username
I know, it was supposed to make people laugh. 😕
Jay Leno needs another Blastolene Special (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastolene_Special)
Surprisingly smooth and quiet for what it is
It was a flat plane crank for greater operational symmetry lol even amount of things moving the same direction at the same time inside
Being a history buff I always knew about this engine.
But I did not know it was all aluminum, 32v DOHC, with a flat plane crank....
That's awesome for the 1940s...
It was a 60 degree V engine, as well! Most V8s have a 90 degree V.
I've always wondered why americans could make a high tech engines like this one but in cars they just stuck with pushrods for who knows how long
@@buddini2648 because it is reliable the chevy l.s. can handle making 1,000hp on stock heads and internals with a turbo setup
@@buddini2648A. They were sufficient for a really long time B. Most importantly, they're cheap.
The flatplane crank would have been a necessity of the 60 degree V angle. A crossplane crank balances the reciprocating masses of the pistons with rotating counter-weights on the crankshaft, but a rotating counter-weight can only properly balance two reciprocating masses if they move at right angles to each other, meaning a 90 degree V angle. At 60 degrees, a crossplane crank would produce strong unbalanced vibrations, so a flatplane crank is the only choice. I'm assuming the narrow angle was chosen to fit the engine into the tank, especially since DOHC cylinder heads take up more space than push-rod heads, which adds to engine width in the case of a V type engine.
I came here looking for the Cosworth Ford V6 3.4 quad cam GAA engine !!
Some day!!!!
Instead you got the best tank engine of ww2
This engine probably weighs as much as the whole car lol
Nope. Just one of many engines that helped prevent the world from speaking German.
Well you came to the wrong place!!!! But somehow ended up in the right place. :)
What a beautiful sound!
If ford makes the coyote now, this is definitely the dire wolf
That's a great analogy
Gorgeous sound
Beautiful sound!!!!!!
I have heard a lot of tanks in my day and that sounds like some kind of luxo car tank. I would love to have that in my pickup
Interesting that it has that 60-degree V6 sound. Nice smoke.
I think it's the flat plane crank that gives it that sound.
I'll guess this was when it was fresh after a rebuild. Get some load on it and get the rings to seat and odds are that oil smoke will go away.
@Loyd Champion
This smoke is at the first start of this overhauled engine. According to measurements the engine got to its temperature, the smoke also became less and less.
IF YOU DID NOT PUT A LOAD ON IT RIGHT AWAY, IT WOULD USE OIL.
@@wolfsroadie FYI to all, the load on fresh a fresh engine is great for building cylinder pressure and thus helping expand and seat the rings in the bores. It doesn't take a full load, but a 25% load with various RPM's works great. The easiest to break in ar the engines in boats since the load is the same at all times from a propeller. It takes about 15 minus on an engine dyno. In a car I always look for a hill to drive it on for a while a different speeds once I know everything is OK such as leaks, oil pressure, water temperature, and no bad noises.
@@BAIVBV. Here a CB400 Honda 4cc engine!!!!!! This engine From the Cars,and the motorcycle.
Quite right!
A very good mechanic who used to race Datsun 1200 cars with A12 engines overhauled one for a relative.
At the first start he had four persons in the little car and gave it the beans going up a hill just 1/2 a mile from his workshop....
it was his normal break in procedure!
That car ran with "no" oil consumption for years after that......the rings had fully seated and the bore was scraped (bedded in) just right so no glazing occurred.
@@LoydChampion
Interesting exhaust note. Doesn't "Rumble" like a normal V8. More of a "cackle" like a V6......wonder why that is.....
Valve design most likely and exhaust port design
@@INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D CZcams caddydave Sherman tank engine. The low idle rpm Is Brutal...low rpm tick over so slow that
You can hear each compression event .
@@samuelegbert2199 big low rpm industrial engines. And single cylinders are like that you can hear them draw in air heat the valves open and the compression stroke......it’s weird hearing it for the first time.
@@INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D putting a FORD - GAA engine scale 1/18 tank engine in my bicycle
Flat plane crank.
Great work guys. Love the sound. Can we now put it a 1978 camaro and see how she peforms. Lol
I love this engine, I could go out to the garage and spend hours just listening to it purr. I was told this engine was banned from drag racing at one point back in the 50's is this true?
It was banned from drag racing indeed. As a tank engine, its power wasn't fully untapped and was limited to 500hp at 2600rpm with a governor. Some tank crews removed the governor for a boost of power in emergencies.
After the war the engine was made available for commerical/public use, including in drag racing. Modifications to the engine made it an absolute monster capable of around 2200hp, and since there was basically no competition, the GAA was banned from drag racing since whoever had a custom GAA just won.
@@JakeTheTankmaster2,200 horses on what, regular pump gas of the time?
Probably high grade Avgas.
This engine had a thousand foot pounds of torque at 2200 rpm.
There's been some documentation of this motor producing 5k hp in some tractors.
Imagine that's engine on pickup truck 💪🤠🇺🇸
You'd have to beef the hell outta the front end but man that shit is gonna mooooove
Why would you put it on a truck? I'd much rather install it in a truck. Dumb fuck
I would like to see one those built up with good cams and forged internals!🐍
I didn't realize these were flat-plane cranks. Ford was going into Ferrari territory FAR before LeMans.
Let's put this in a miata. It'll fit for sure.
I would like to see if they're going to shoehorn that M4 Sherman engine into a hot rod. That would be great.
What a engine
I is truly amazing they built this in WW2 I have read about it, if they had the technology back then why did they wait so many years to bring it mainstream.
Cost. Exotic engines are fine for tanks and war planes but what people are willing or able to pay for in the free market is another story.
Should bolt right into my 8N.
Proper work boys! Now stuff it into a Capri!
Nah man this is perfect for a Fiero swap!
I’m wondering how much an engine would weigh. Not a lot of huge aluminum block engines to compare it to
That engine weighs more than your car.
650kg aprox. And it is aluminum block
It weighs around 1560lbs
@@vitorhugoschneider5698WIW!
I came here a Baltar B524 V6 Diesel aircraft engine be like uses by Rayssa RA-1998. But a test run video sound like a RS2000 racecar engine.
What a Baltar B524 V6 Diesel engine.as I6 V6 Engine Sound like a RS2000 Escort Racecar engine.
You could drive that big thing down the freeway in Mobile and kill all the mosquitos in town.
I'm a bit surprised Ford didn't make this after the war for their tractors.
I'de be curious to know the manufacturer of the carburetors. Giant Zeniths? Beautiful restoration I'm sure parts arent easy to come by
Information about the engine is here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GAA_engine
Stromborgs.
Edit: ...bergs?
Yep, sounds like a Sherman tank 😉
Put some headers and a blower on it.
Would to see it on the dyno
You are practically red lining that thing when it's cold
Sounds like it has 5:1 compression
Hello BAIV can you provide some idle fuel consumption numbers for the FORD GAA?
if you want to impress me shoehorn that into a Mini Cooper
i wonder how that engine would run on fuel injection? and distributerless injection.
that thing is YUGE!
Será que cabe no helicóptero da vacina???? Kkkkkk
Turbos would be neat
Yep, sounds like a Sherman.
I came a Here a 3.5 V8 Diesel Baltar R4300 engine From the Aircraft então but sound like!!!!
Isn't this like 1100cu in
Smokes a bit
These 1940s engines aren’t as tightly built as modern engines are, if that explains anything.
@@michaelmurray7199 Engine was freshly rebuilt, so the rings haven’t seated into the bores yet. id also like to add that there probably isn’t any sort of oil control system on the valve stems (valve stem seals)
How are the cams driven? Chains or gears? Very impressive engine.
Worm gear (!) if I recall correctly.
Thanks for that information.@@ohger1
Put a Chevy LS on it for a supercharger
So its essentially a ford flathead.. but much bigger?
not necessarily a flathead
It's got valves in head as well as being dual overhead cam
Other than the cylinder banks being split at the same 60 degrees and having 8 cylinders the GAA and the Flathead having nothing in common. The GAA cylinder head has 2 overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder. The Flathead was valve in block with a single cam.
The GAA was cast from aluminum and was originally designed as a V12 aircraft engine but Ford lopped off 4 cylinders when the US Army needed a better tank engine than the radial engine that was then being used in the M4 Sherman tank. The V12 version was later revived and used in some US Army vehicles post WW II.
@@sabinabrozynski9215 if you, hypothethically, put one in a muscle car, with a good tune on it so it pushes like 1000 hp, i think it would it be very badass, front heavy as hell, probably a handful to drive.. and get like 1 mpg, not a commuter car :)
@@sakariaskarlsson634 There are a few GAA motors in drag cars but as you can guess parts are an issue - so they are mostly for show. But 1,000 HP is easy to make with the GAA.
@@sabinabrozynski9215 dude, the flathead had a 90° bank angle.
Really cool engine. Sounds odd though. Not nearly as nice as a cross plane crank sounds.
So in 1940 the magnate ford was able to produce an engine that had 28hp per liter. While the other side did similar power almost 10 years earlier.
The engine had a governor (often removed by tank crews). At around 500 crank horsepower, it was nothing close to maxed out on output. Durability was the name of the game for combat use.
Got to remember this is a tank engine that had to run on the very poor (60 octane or thereabouts) 'pool petrol' available to ground vehicles of the time. By necessity it is detuned a lot compared to an aircraft engine.
The "other side" was gearing up for war - that was their motivation. In any case, the GAA was limited to 2500 rpm by governor because torque and reliability is the name of the game when moving a tank. These would put out over 1000LB/FT all day - every day - and did until the "other side" collapsed.
@@ohger1 Thank you for your opinion.The DB600 was pre Nazi party. War was not in sight yet. 1000LB/FT all day every day was only at the end of the war! So in short Ford failed, being one of the biggest companies in the world at the time. With all their resources to develop and produce an engine that produced enough power to be put in an aircraft. And also in a tank, because it was only after the normandy landings it was good enough to be put into a tank.