Is Wrestling FAKE?
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- Super Eyepatch Wolf: Professional Wrestling Reaction Part A
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People definitely knew it was fake before the 90s but didn't necessarily know to what extent it was fake. The curtain call just put it out in the open
It's just like watching a magician, we know it's fake but it's whimsical to pretend it's real and be amazed by the skill and trickery, just like with any medium that tells a story. Just like the last seasons of Game of Thrones, we were reminded that the show was just a show, and the writing team was forced into a corner that they couldn't get themselves out of, tearing down the illusion that took so many years to build.
@@KaranthaneosTo be fair, Game of Thrones had plenty of ways to end the show and still keep some semblance of legacy; I think most of it comes down to "don’t have your characters take a steaming dump in their hands and then clap".
@@Karanthaneos The reason why people enjoy watching magician is that he manages to trick your brain. If a wrestler was a magician, he would awkwardly hide "disappeared" objects and his main trick would be poorly executed "disappearing thumb".
i mean, Jack Pfeiffer blabbed to the press in detail about how it was all fixed back in the 30s
the idea of kayfabe is less weird to digest when you realize the entire job of Disneyland actors in costume is basically on the clock kayfabe. it's just hardcore roleplaying.
Wrestling is the ultimate LARP lol.
Generally in wrestling, the wrestlers have know where the cameras so they can hide the parts where moves seem too fake. And in the past, cameras were pulled back more and in lower quality so it was very difficult to see that punches weren’t actually landing.
They do connect with punches, just softly
@@ronanawesomeness6160eh, it depends on the time period, the style of wrestling and the individual wrestlers tbh. Watch the Rock or Austin. Austin is very obvious he’s not connecting with his punches when he does his Thesz Press.
And yet in Japanese strong style wrestling, they are legit hitting each other hard, just in safe areas.
I once saw it put like this. Pro wrestling is the one true sport because it was designed and put together in a way that athletics cannot match, In other words it was designed to be a sport even if it is scripted
20:30 - keanu is amazing in these scenes. he's doing almost all of them himself, going through vigurous training beforehand.
thats also the reason why his performance later as john wick is so convincing: he trained on taran tactials gun range for it
YES! There was a small interview with CM Punk where he reacted to wrestling in movies, and he explained that wrestling started as a gig for carnival shows, where they would pin their strongman against the local village idiot that wanted to fight.
That actually required a lot of skill, because the wrestler needed to look beatable because they made money out of beating overconfident cityfolks, but at the same time he needed to be able to absolutely beat the shit out of someone if things got out of hand, hence why they also started fixing the matches.
Fake is not the correct term. Pre determined is. People can seriously get hurt doing this, with some dying from injuries, some getting paralyzed for life and some getting severe brain damage
MMA but done in a professional wrestling way has been done multiple times actually.
As noted by a comment below, there's even a subset promotion of GCW(Game Changer Wrestling)called Bloodsport(founded by former UFC heavyweight champion Josh Barnett).
In 1989, the head of WWF(now WWE)Vince McMahon Jr had basically torn down the curtain by telling a court that pro wrestling is "sports entertainment", as in...it's not real. This was Vince being cheap by hoping to not pay athletic commissions.
Oh, as for something horrible happening by accident, pro wrestlers have *died* during the show(most prolific being Owen Hart).
During the time where people really thought it was real, there were incidents of people attacking Heels to get rid of the dangerous individuals or to get revenge on them for defeating their favourite. Like as a Heel you had to be careful to not get dragged into an alleyway and get a knife between your ribs O.O
You know a lot of new comers tend to say "This is like a dance."
Yeah Keanu is an incredibly devoted actor, he puts his heart and soul into every project. Not just in the training side of things everyone knows about, but he also took HUGE paycuts on several projects simply because he believed in them and the story they were telling, and wanted to money to go to other, bigger actors to make the movie a success.
When I was 12 I met Rob Van Damme before he was famous and I asked him if wrestling is fake, he told me that, "We're not trying to fight and hurt each other in that ring, and to that part it's not real. But because what we do is very dangerous and we risk our safety, our health, our livelihoods and our lives every time we do a move, it's not fake."
The first big move of shifting the mask aside, at least in a very public venue, was when Vincent McMahon Jr testified before the New Jersey gambling board that the wrestlers at the World Wrestling Federation(now called World Wrestling Entertainment of WWE for short) weren't actually fighting and what they were doing was action entertainment and exhibition wrestling. Then the Monday Night Wars happened. The Monday Night Wars were the prime time ratings war between World Championship Wrestling(WCW) and the World Wrestling Federation(WWF, now WWE) with their two principal shows, Nitro and Raw, where they would try to out compete each other for rating to be the top wrestling show on broadcast television, and attempting to steal away each others' talent. That pretty much killed the illusion that pro wrestling was a sport. The final nail in the coffin for pro wrestling being a sport was when Owen Hart, the younger brother of Bret Hart, was killed in a horrific accident in the middle of the at a WWF pay-per-view event. They had to stop the show while paramedics had to get his body out of the ring and arena. The head ringside commentator, Jim Ross, had to announcer simultaneously over the stadium's PA system and to the cameras that this was not part of the show and that a horrible accident had occurred. The following Monday night on both Nitro and Raw for the first 10 minutes of both shows there was no big fanfare, no wrestling, all the wrestlers at the event gathered in and biside the ring as they gave a 10 bell salute to the memory and career of Owen Hart. It was the first time I had seen so many big men weep. The stress of losing his brother in such a tragic way caused Bret Hart to have a stroke that permanently knocked him out of wrestling.
When you think about it, even the competitive part isn't wholly fake. While the performers aren't trying to beat one another into submission, they are still competing in putting on the best performance. They're just competing more with everyone not in the ring than the person(s) they're actually in the ring with. Opposite of a real fight. It matters because the better your performance, the better chance you have of moving up the card, getting bigger matches, more promos, and being granted championships as a face of the company.
“Is Wrestling Fake?” Yes, but that’s what makes it incredible.
16:44 Hey, I have a story for this!
My uncle is a massive wrestling fan, but turns out he was trafficking drugs and was caught and imprisoned in around mid-90s. I was born in the 2000's so I never got to actually meet him then. He was released around 2015 or 2016. I met him for the first time around then and he spent a few days in our home. During those days, of course he was chatting with us and learning about all the things that have changed, but he also asked my dad, his brother, about wrestling. My dad didn't know anything about it, but I was a really really big fan of it at the time. I told him about all the developments, the new, the old, the ones that left and the ones that are here now. Basically info-dumping on him.
To put it simply, his mind was BLOWN. He was like a kid listening about the coolest anime ever. He's a massive fan even until now, at the ripe old age of late-50s. I grew out of wrestling bit by bit and got more into other stuff like D&D, but I still watch it once in a while. But when he comes over we still nerd out about wrestling.
the chicken guy was for an advertisement tie in with KFC. the guy who reminded you of lurch was Percy Pringle, who went by the name Paul Bearer and was the manager for Mark Callaway aka the Undertaker. Percy sadly passed away a few years back
Bret Hart winning the title was in 92, when 80's styles didn't want to die yet. You know, the Goof Troop era!
I think one suggestion you would like is the channel Secret Base's video called Section 1, part of their Dorktown series. It's not about just football, but the finale does depend on the result of the Pittsburgh Steelers VS the Baltimore Colts game in 1976.
The overall presentation is reminiscent of top-tier Prezi slides, but the video actually runs on Google Earth. It makes great use of synchronized timelines, explanations on the football players involved, and scathing commentary on the government.
The villain isn't one of the teams, it is a lone man who is a fan of the Colts.
Finally!! I've wanted you to check out this series for so long, it's so good.
There are cases of people legitimately attacking opponents and hurting them, also called shooting on them ( shoot means real, work means part of the show)
There actually used to be a Japanese MMA promotion called Pride that would supply their fighters with steroids, fix fights and put on freakshow matches without regard for weight class etc.
Another good wrestling video is "Wrestling Isn't Wrestling". It's absolutely hilarious and came out three years before this one.
This is a world that I'm not particularly drawn to immerse myself, but that regularly impresses me with the passion and enthusiasm it inspires in others.
This would probably be a good prologue to his Riverdale video, though I'm still hoping for his two One Piece offerings.
Wrestling isn't fake. It's predetermined.
For me this is a difference. It'*s scripted .. yes. But the moves and athletics are all real and dangerous, if not done correctly. So there'*s nothing "fake" about the action. The results and story are not real, but the athletics are.
I didn't understand wrestling as a kid in the 90's, because I didn't get any exposure to the storylines of it and the actual wrestling wasn't super interesting to me. It wasn't until I watched a couple of videos about the better stories in the history of the WWE and was introduced to Wrestlemania by a friend who is a fan, they walked me through the various storylines that were going on at the time.
I still don't consider myself a fan, but I get it.
Rowdy Piper was one of the biggest wrestling stars in the 80s. You know Hulk Hogan? He was his nemesis, arguably the iconic 80s wrestling villain to Hogan's hero. He was also in movies, ever heard of They Live?
I’m glad you’re doing his videos on wrestling now, or at least this one. Hopefully the others too. It’s always so unique to see people who don’t like wrestling - or at least, don’t WATCH wrestling - react to things like The Curtain Call. When you’re already a fan, these videos don’t quite hit the same as when you’re not, since I already know the appeal of it, most of the entertainment in these videos is getting to relive some of the matches he talks about. But someone who doesn’t watch this stuff like you, you seem to get genuine insight into learning things like kayefabe, the Kliq, and even "oh god I remember this why did they think it was a good idea to hang someone on live PPV there are kids watching this". Can’t wait for part 2, the Golden☆Lovers saga was a big part of my teenage years.
You should definitely watch *"Wrestling Isn't Wrestling"* simply for the number of celebrity cameos in it!
(and it's a very unique cliffnotes version of wrestling)
Yes Wrestling is indeed fake, match outcomes are pre determined, everything is set up and choreographed(At some points if you look closely you can see punches not connecting) but none of that matters as long as it's still entertaining. And for the most part, it is
1:38 That's Paul Barer, he used to be the manager for The Undertaker. And yes his name is a pun
26:34 Actually Wrestlemania 8 aired in 1992
30:10 Steve Austin debut in the wwe in 1996 so no, definitely NOT the 80's
You are right about the Kliq, weirdly they all had 'heel' characters, but often those are the ones that turn into the greatest Babyfaces!
I think you misunderstood the point Eyepatch was making about up to the 90s, fans were able to invest in the show being real. 99% of the fans at this point know the results are predetermined, but the show it's self hadn't started to blur the lines into there being a 'real' and 'unreal' reality to wrestling that would go hand in hand.
By the 90s there were undead wizards that could bring lightening down from the roof of the arenas, evil clowns that made children cry, dentists with bad teeth, even a evil Christmas Tree monster (played by the same guy as the dentist with bad teeth). It is more that the show 'allowed' fans to buy into that reality, but after the curtain call, the mix between what is real and scripted got very blurred.
Ah, Steven Austin getting the torch passed to him from Bret Hart was I think 96 (could be 97).
OH! Glad you broke the video into 2! I was worried you were going to skip the second half! XD Great reaction and it is really cool to see people react to Eyepatch Wolf's wrestling stuff! His latest one is excellent IMO (though it is an hour and a half long 0_0). Great stuff! So sorry for the long comment!
Airier 20:10 Keanu Reeves has a lot of well earned fans for a reason he is all about doing his own stunts and learning and training with a lot of things from firearms to swordsmanship just for the The Matrix. you should see the John Wick behind the scenes when he was doing firearms training he came up with a new way for speed shooters to reload and fire that is being used in competitive shooting now 🤯
Roddy Piper was a successful actor after his wrestling career, starring in They Live, and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Quite late here. In my opinion people pre-90's probably knew it was fake. But after incidents in the 90's like the curtain call the relationship was definitely changed. Sort of like the change between knowing a Magician's Trick is a trick, and knowing HOW a magician is doing the trick.
"What if MMA but the professional wrestling version of MMA?"
See: Shayna Baszler vs Ronda Rousey.
They did a poll of WWE fans in the mid 80s and I think it was 33% of fans who thought it was real, granted idk if this also included kids so the numbers might be way lower for adults.
Yo do you think you could go on a week-long binge of reacting to all of eyepatch Wolf's wrestling videos and look up Daryl talks games videos on wrestling hje usually does them during the holidays is that like three or four of them I think you'd like it
Well to be fair all 4 of the guys were good guys and bad guys at various points
20:31 Kianu Reeves was famous for doing his stunts I thought. I guess some things aren’t as common knowledge as I thought
31:25 yes he did he has done one. “Why you should watch Yu Yu Hakusho
His first CZcams video is “why you should watch HunterXHunter” which was made by the same mangaka that wrote Yu Yu Hakusho. And he did a follow up “why you should still watch HunterXHunter” (Which is the reason I did watch HxH)
Most of his anime videos are right in your wheel house super eyepatch wolf likes to talk about storytelling in anime/manga and the 4 wrestling videos are basically about wrestling as a storytelling medium.
If I had any advise for you going into his anime or wrestling videos wear your storytelling analysis/English major hat going in. I personally would love to see you dive into commentating on the commentary and explaining it further from that literary analysis perspective.
Wrestling, or what I like to call it, real life shonen anime
Professional wrestling is basically live action Shonen anime. =P
It's funny you mention Jake Paul, because Logan actually signed with WWE last year. Like an actual contract.
The Matrix was so real that Neo's final fighting style came about because of a broke vertebrae and Trinity kept breaking her leg during training ... which she didn't tell anyone about, in case she got replaced.
Say whatever you like about the franchise as a whole, but nothing was held back or half done on the original.
They made the actors take philosophy exams before agreeing to cast them and the chorographer demanded they take 4 months of martial arts training before any filming.
Rowdy Piper famous line "i came to kick ass and chew bubble gum,and I'm all out of gum",other series i think you enjoy watching vg exiles by spritebyte
Yaaaay at least one of my recommendations went through. HINT HINT
By the way I don't know for sure wether or not their videos would suit you, but I would suggest that you check out bobbybroccoli he makes high quality video essays on scandals in physics, which also as a byproduct of that contain a lot of information on how politics work (I'm not sure wether or not it would be your thing but if that sounds interesting to you he also has a few shorter videos though those normally include less political things, and they normally aren't as complex). Also dingo doodles, puffin forest and zee bashew have a four part let's play series in order being the two part Christmas special then the two part Halloween special and they are basically shortish episodes of a dnd podcast.
I would say the plan worked, but yeah no, I genuinely expected you to be masochistic enough to jump right into the Fake Martial Arts vid. 😂
So... Sorry, I guess? I wanted this too, so like I said, I would say my plan to get this reaction worked... But I didn't actually plan for this. 😂
5:18 I always saw it as being an uber masculine and violent soap opera.
In the UK it was a family show years ago not as much anymore however it depends on the show
Here before Airier fixes the title typo
I no think type good are fix.
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5:13 .... Huh. That's a pretty neat take. Honestly as a wrestling fan, i'm totally fine with it.
No that match was in the early 90s lol
Wrestling is basically live action shonen
Also for those who do think wrestling is fake look up ECW/CZW or heck just New Jack
Not having watched this video fully, yet. Is wrestling fake? No. Is it scripted and sometimes choreographed? Sure.
Airier, American Wrestling like this, is best described as MALE SOAP OPERA
One of the best comments I ever saw on Pro Wrestling went like this.
In Japan: it's a sport.
In Canada: It's a Tradition.
In Mexico: It's a religion.
In America: It's a joke.
more people need to watch this video
I highly suggest his video on the heels (the bad guys). He explores how they began, how they make the crowd boo them and how they thrive in it.
The video in called "Villains in Wrestling: Making people hate you"
Pro Wrestling is more coreographed than fake realy, the moves do hurt
Wait, you people don't check your subscriptions?????!
American interpretive dance! 🤣
SEW: "Between Rowdy Roddy Piper-"
Airer: "Who?"
🤨 Airier, go watch John Carpenter's They Live. Right now. 1: It will give you all the Rowdy Roddy Piper goodness you need to cleanse your soul of this transgression, and 2: It has one of the greatest fight scenes ever put to film, mostly owed to Roddy's career in professional wrestling, and him and Keith David busting their asses to make it one of the most memorable scenes in a movie full of memorable scenes. Go. Go now.
“I came her to chew bubblegum and kick ass!”
A floppy drive? Don't you be speaking your archaic language old man! 😡🤣🤣🤣
You must be starting to get to that age where your judgment in how long ago things were seem incredibly long ago that they must of happened in the 70's or 80's. My guess is that you were born in the 90's and don't really have a great sense of how the 90's were, because you were so young. Steve Austin became a major star in the late 90's. I'm 38 now. I was around 12-13 when Steve Austin had that feud with Bret Hart.
4:00, season 6 wasnt great either. Its got its moments, but the show does a lot of dumb bullshit to get us to those moments where not much is really going on. Compare it to seasons 1-4 and not much really haopens in most s6 episodes.
the main thing s6 had was that the dialogue was still well written at least. Even that was lost when we went to s7.
I know it’s fake and I was a fan but it’s gotten worse over the years
how is wrestling fake? its real.. look at their bodies they are jacked
Doesn't change the fact that it's fake. Yes real injuries can happen but it's still fake. Matches have pre determined outcomes, stories are all scripted, it's all fake.
The athleticism is real, the match results not so much.
9 view. I currently don't have anything smart to say
25:01 Yep. That's exactly it. Wrestlers could put a good act (maybe?), they can perform some cool stunts. But the fighting part? This is where immersion breaks into pieces. I can't take seriously all this talk about "professional wrestling" and "experienced fighters", when this narrative is put together by fights what should be flawlessly executed, and the actual fights look like ten years old kids pretending to be Mortal Kombat characters.
Actors pretend that they fight, and those who watch should pretend that they don't know actors pretend? Yeah no, I have enough of stupidity in my life, I don't want to add this to the pile.
The Pro Wrestling version of MMA is called Josh Barnett's Bloodsport. It is a real thing.
Sorry to inform you, but Season 6 was never official. It was a non-canon fan fic