Understanding Deep Stall | The Super Stall.

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • A deep stall is a serious condition. Also known as the super stall, it's common to T-tail aeroplanes and can make the aeroplane unrecoverable. Find out how in this video.
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Komentáře • 80

  • @FunWorldGame1993
    @FunWorldGame1993 Před 2 lety +87

    2 minutes of video covered 10 pages in the book. Keep it up it’s absolutely stunning

    • @flightclubonline
      @flightclubonline  Před 2 lety +6

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  • @SS-eu2ef
    @SS-eu2ef Před 2 lety +36

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  • @treyn8070
    @treyn8070 Před 2 lety +58

    I can't imagine what it would be like to be a pilot in a plane that goes into a deep stall. It is unrecoverable so there is nothing you can do but sit and wait for the hit and hope you lived a good life as your life flashes in front of your eyes.

    • @hulayhussain6714
      @hulayhussain6714 Před 2 lety +18

      Its not that bad as you are saying here lol you can recover from it

    • @RealGoldRealWealth
      @RealGoldRealWealth Před 2 lety

      That happened in Britain with I believe the BAC one-Eleven flight test program.

    • @dr.julianbashir9193
      @dr.julianbashir9193 Před 2 lety +7

      You have to quickly realize that there's no going back and leave a humorous recording on the CVR for the youtubers, after you say your goodbyes to family and friends of course. If there's time. Lol

    • @smd4246
      @smd4246 Před rokem

      Unimaginable feeling of fear

    • @Acidburn191
      @Acidburn191 Před rokem +1

      @@dr.julianbashir9193 for a guy with a DR. title, you sound super pessimistic.

  • @pikachu6031
    @pikachu6031 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Only “T” Tail aircraft are affected by the “Deep Stall” phenomenon. They have a device installed in the cockpit called a “Stick Pusher” which automatically forces the control column rapidly forward if the aircraft approaches the stall. This action forces the nose down, increasing airspeed, thus preventing a deep stall from developing. Once a “T” Tail aeroplane has entered a deep stall, recovery is totally impossible and a fatal crash will result. Hence the “Stick Pusher”. This is exactly what happened to the British European Airways (BEA) Trident (Papa India) disaster at Staines, near London Heathrow in 1972. It’s a very famous air disaster case and well worth a read, or watching a video about it on CZcams!

    • @pixelapse9613
      @pixelapse9613 Před 5 měsíci

      But why T tail is only affected by deep stall? Please explain scientifically

    • @ell8711
      @ell8711 Před 2 měsíci

      ​​@@pixelapse9613
      basically, as angle of attack increases to the critical angle, the lift from the main wing is reduced and the turbulent air raises and covers the elevators, making them far less effective, which further contributes to the effect along with slow speed and sinkrate
      think static instability but only at critical angles of attack

  • @murugurthy
    @murugurthy Před 2 lety +8

    Learnt a new concept under stalls..Thank you...
    What I never like is the fact how nonpaid pilots(they were unpaid for 6 months) were blamed for a dual engine failure and stall due to a lack of procedures in the airline to measure the weight of the bags appropriately! This MD-80 hence got into a super stall, and there were dangerous updrafts too unfortunately!
    No wonder this type of aircraft is discontinued!

    • @martinnikolov2363
      @martinnikolov2363 Před 6 měsíci

      This type of aircraft,like every other,has its pros and cons,but i can assure you that it is just as safe as the others if you control it as you're supposed to..

  • @codingvio7383
    @codingvio7383 Před rokem +2

    For glider pilots, it is so incredibly important that the plane is loaded slightly nose heavy, or else stall recovery is close to impossible.

  • @raccoonair
    @raccoonair Před 2 lety +7

    Very well done, thanks for sharing.

  • @pk7549
    @pk7549 Před 7 měsíci

    1. Required sick pusher.
    2. You CAN recover from deep stall.
    3. Appreciate that swept wing CL curve has a much less pronounced drop off when compared to straight wing, therefore aerodynamic incipent stall indications are more insidious.

  • @yanngumbs97133
    @yanngumbs97133 Před 2 lety +3

    thanks for sure save so much of my times my respect , for all you have done and your time you giving for all pilots students

  • @sachinkumar064
    @sachinkumar064 Před 2 lety +5

    Great video as usual.

  • @hotshot4512
    @hotshot4512 Před 2 lety +5

    Is it possible to say use differential thrust + aileron + rudder even with reduced effectiveness? I'd think that the only hope in this case would be to have a wing drop and make it a spin rather than a deep stall

  • @mizzyroro
    @mizzyroro Před 28 dny +1

    Is a deep stall usually accompanied by rotation about the vertical axis?

  • @alexc5449
    @alexc5449 Před rokem +2

    I'm a little confused. Are these aircraft not nose heavy to help recover from stalls?

  • @juanitojr.urbano6257
    @juanitojr.urbano6257 Před 2 lety +3

    Amazing explanation.....

  • @angrypepecancer5205
    @angrypepecancer5205 Před 2 lety +4

    Youre the best

  • @citysoundfm
    @citysoundfm Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hence the invention of the ‘stick pusher’ on all transport category T tail airplanes.

  • @stevenkramer7595
    @stevenkramer7595 Před 2 lety +1

    What a fantastic channel and video!

  • @pratiek_writes6726
    @pratiek_writes6726 Před 2 lety +2

    Keep giving knowlegde to us...
    Love from India❤✨

  • @bedirhanari
    @bedirhanari Před rokem +1

    Thanks a lot, explained very well. But i recommend speeding video a bit.

  • @lucasbunk836
    @lucasbunk836 Před 2 lety +2

    Good Video. Thank you!

  • @sm1thyk593
    @sm1thyk593 Před 18 dny

    ที่ผมเข้าใจก็คือเครื่องบินเชิดหัวขึ้นมากเกินไปจนเกิดอาการStall ถูกไหมครับ(คล้ายกับที่บราซิลตกเลย) แล้วถ้ามันมาจากระดับที่สูงมากๆ มันก็ยังมีโอกาสดึงเครื่องทันใช่ไหมครับ

  • @yoginero
    @yoginero Před rokem +2

    You can use thrust , aerons and rudder to get out of it, if the flight computer doesn't block your inputs.

    • @unflexian
      @unflexian Před rokem

      on any airbus you can turn off the two elacs and two facs to get into direct law, with absolutely no protections blocked inputs or modified inputs

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm Před 10 měsíci

      In a deep stall, nothing that you mentioned definitively works towards lowering the angle of attack. Remeber the airplane already has a very high sink rate. Only a definitive nose down push can break the stall. Without the tail, this cannot be effectively accomplished.

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 Před 9 měsíci

      Nope!

  • @t.r.s.5129
    @t.r.s.5129 Před rokem +1

    Isn't this what happened to the Air France 447 flight from Brazil to Paris??

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm Před 10 měsíci +2

      Not exactly. That airplane was in a pilot induced stall yes but it was recoverable. The pilot just made no attempt to correctly recover.

  • @drseven1275
    @drseven1275 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing !

  • @mattfeldman1854
    @mattfeldman1854 Před rokem +2

    nose down power on

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm Před 10 měsíci +1

      You can’t ’nose down’ if your tail is in the stall wake. It has no authority.

  • @josiahbutler2254
    @josiahbutler2254 Před 18 dny

    only T-tail planes are affected by this because the turbulent air hits the elevators and makes them sluggish or not work at all…. A-tail planes can recover with enough altitute

  • @fonwoolridge
    @fonwoolridge Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting! Thanks - subbed!

  • @ecwskier4500
    @ecwskier4500 Před rokem

    Question, would decreasing throttle not drop the nose? Or could increasing throttle help?

  • @OnceShy_TwiceBitten
    @OnceShy_TwiceBitten Před rokem +1

    is a death sentence unrecoverable? or is that a different term than I think it is? find it hard to believe SOME movement wouldn't let you recover in some way.

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm Před 10 měsíci

      You can’t get into it in the first place. The T tail transport category airplanes require a mandatory ‘stick pusher’ that breaks the impending stall before it gets to full development.

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 Před 9 měsíci

      Only in the UK do T Tail airplanes have a stick pusher.

  • @thewidow7864
    @thewidow7864 Před měsícem

    tha'ts probably what happened to air france 447

  • @boop53
    @boop53 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m not even a pilot i just find airplanes interesting

  • @josephhurdman5588
    @josephhurdman5588 Před 2 lety

    Some people have suggested unequal thtust, in a multi-engined aircaft, in order to get out of a Deep Stall, but it's not a guarantee of survival...

  • @makantahi3731
    @makantahi3731 Před 5 měsíci

    extend flaps and slats

  • @georgeconway4360
    @georgeconway4360 Před 9 měsíci

    Two Deep Stall T Tail crashes: NWA6231 B727 JFK-BUF 01DEC1974, West Caribbean MD80 15AUG2005.

  • @user-ge1qc9pl6y
    @user-ge1qc9pl6y Před 7 měsíci

    I came here from emergecny landing event

  • @3mar00ss6
    @3mar00ss6 Před 8 měsíci

    u can't recover the plane? like nada it's over? bruh like nothing on the tail could save u realign???? wow u learn something new everyday

  • @ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock

    sooo .. how you supposed to recover from it?

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm Před 10 měsíci

      You can’t get into it in the first place. The T tail transport category airplanes require a mandatory ‘stick pusher’ that breaks the impending stall before it gets to full development.

    • @pk7549
      @pk7549 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The horizontal stab can still have some authority. If the pilot can create enough up and down pitch oscillation by using a combination of thrust and elevator application, they may be able to force the tail out of the turbulent air and recover.

  • @BMW_Z4idiot
    @BMW_Z4idiot Před 2 lety

    say your prayers, and then booooooom - charred toast

  • @toyotacdobylylepepito207

    This what happened to Air France 447

    • @gort8203
      @gort8203 Před 8 měsíci

      No it isn't. The F/O held that airplane in a stall with backstick.

  • @noir_fedora1701
    @noir_fedora1701 Před 2 lety

    Reasons why im scared to become a pilot

  • @johnsmith-rs2vk
    @johnsmith-rs2vk Před rokem

    BE 548 ?

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 Před 9 měsíci

      BEA may have had a deep stall but the actual cause of the stall was the retraction of the Droops 60 knots below the retraction speed causing an immediate stall that left the only possible way to recover was to extend the droops back to the extended takeoff position. Nothing else could have saved them.

  • @justvid366
    @justvid366 Před dnem

    T-tail is the worst

  • @Niamhboof
    @Niamhboof Před rokem

    did anyone else see it 1:32