Why are Cammy's combos SO HARD???
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- We're doing more Street Fighter 6 combo trials!! Today we're tackling Chun Li, Ken, and everyone's favorite SF2 new challenger: Cammy! Cammy actually has some really hard stuff in SF6, her links and juggles into super are pretty difficult to pull off! wish me luck, and let me know what character you want to see the combo challenge missions for next!
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0:00 Chun Li trials
7:10 Ken trials
11:49 Cammy trials - Hry
They made that one Cammy trial with the old school Capcom “secret input until the community gets it” method.
There a few of these in 6.
If it’s the DP into super then I need to know the shortcut, that trial has been haunting me 💀
@@darriusmarcum4223 it ain’t that one, that one is just insane lmao
@@darriusmarcum4223 idk if you know this already, but the DP counts as the first QCF motion for the super
Guile flash kick into SA3. DB to UF to B to F
“that one was pretty tricky man took me like 5 minutes” is wild
he’s a combo trial god what do you expect
@@2git2theotherside him and BrianF make it look so easy lol, my fingers start cramping after 3 minutes 😅
@@mrcuddles2199 when you've played Street Fighter 4 for years this stuff is pretty breezy
@@pancakejamboree8700 I actually did back in the day but I’m old now 😅
16:00 "that one's easy at least"
I've been stuck on this one for 2 days 😭
The down lp cancel into special part?
@jimcarrey2866 yeah. I have clunky hands, and I really struggle to get the double fireball that quick
Here's what I found out that worked for me: When the spin knuckle hits, do the 1st quarter-circle forward. Then as you are starting the 2nd quarter-circle forwards you are hitting light punch, and then finishing the super. So you're "buffering" the first qcf, and then hitting light punch as you start the 2nd qcf.
If this notation helps...the moment the spin knuckle hits, you do 234, then (2 + LP)3(4 + K).
I had to look this up because I would have thought that hitting light punch would ruin the double qcf.
Gah, I meant 236, then (2 + LP)3(6 + K)....sorry
@@darkrootgabriel ohhh that's smart. I'll have to try that out. Thanks!
I like how they spiced up the returning characters. They all have new mechanics and they feel less vanilla than in 5.
i cant believe they made Ken into Naoto Blazblue
So wild to see someone with experience blaze through these. I think Juri's are pretty easy because the install ones are the advanced ones, but install makes it feel like FighterZ, but advanced 1 had me stuck for a bit until I realized there's a weird juggle on her fireball into the rest of the combo.
I'm so glad you found some of Cammy's trials 'tricky' lol. I've been struggling on those for DAYS! 🤣
"And we exhausted ourself? Was it really worth, Ken?" Ken is a man with nothing left to lose, living on the edge. Why wouldn't he go for it?
And if it's the last 44% you never know if that's the combo that will do it for you lol
Thankyou, brilliant having the combo trials ranked!👍So nice to see Cammy's full array of combos, they are so cool, although seem way hard for me! 😅 But I think even her more basic combos look great, so I still want to play her😀
So glad I watched this. All last night I couldn’t wrap my brain around what I was missing for Advance Combo 3 with Cammy!
At 11:20 the jinrai follow-up is actually really hard to hit consistent for me. I looked at it in training mode, and it's actually a 2 frame window in this trial lol
Yeah that Jinrai follow up took way too long to get down
NO WONDER. I've been going nuts trying to do these lol
I finally got it by watching the individual frame counters on the list of inputs, once you're at 52-54 frames after Jinrai, the follow-up connects.
I remember Cammy's combo trials in SFIV to be a bit hard too. There was an instant divekick one I could never do
All of SF4's trials are insanely hard compared to the SFV and SF6 trials, the only real way to 100 percent them all is with an arcade stick.
@@rickpeters8204 im sure you could do it on controller, it's just harder, but also signifcantly less expensive
@@illford6921 sure you can, but certain techniques from SF4 like pianoing are very difficult on controller.
No wonder I got stuck on that one Cammy trial, the secret input 😭 glad I watched this or if probably struggle again for a few hours today trying to get it lol
9:08 people have been experimenting with Running Tatsu in some very wild and unorthodox corner to corner routes (you can do specific sequences to get the back hit which carries them into an easy juggle afterwards)
Yeah those videos are nuts the first i saw that i went "W T F"
Those combos are SO sick, love seeing all the cool stuff people are finding
Ken's Intermediate 13 is such a sweet combo. My favorite of the trials you've shown so far. Also appreciate the tip on parry, didn't know you could hold it like that.
I was stuck on Cammy's Advanced 3 and now I know why, thanks!
Love the trials content
This was my first street fighter and the first fighting game I’d gotten serious with, and I’m feeling less bad for struggling on some of these for like an hour after seeing you struggle even if it’s for WAY less time.
I love all this content you're putting out ❤
I play with cammy but man… we really need to sweat to do damage… I will never do any of those big combos if I can do shorter ones with damage a little closer, and her special attacks are always punishable, only can do them in combos cause for example the hooligan, you do and people just jab and you lose (last day one guy grabbed me doing the hooligan)
How do you mean her special attacks are always punishable?
All versions of her spiral arrows safe if you use them at max distance. Her spin knuckles are all safe or plus on block. All her hooligan options are safe or plus on block. And of course her dive kicks can be made plus or safe as well. In return they have big hurt boxes that are susceptible to DI/ getting jabbed out of if thats what you meant.
@@ngubod16 yes sorry my english is not perfect... I mean the hurt box... when I do from afar the enemies just do some simple jab or attack and always turn down spiral arrow, hooligan... the spin knucle not much cause I do more in combos or to avoid some projectiles... I think the hurt box is too big, or maybe her attacks are slower than before in other games, not sure (I know she moves fast)
I'm a new street fighter player and I pretty much only play cammy and I relate. I gotta really try if I wanna win (I'm not even good I'm barely iron xd). I guess I gotta keep playing
Bro, you nailed Ken's so hard. Idk if that's legacy skill, but as a new player I actually had a harder time with Ken than I did with Cammy, specially with the Jinrai delayed low and double light shoryukens at the end, the timing is SO strict.
All these combo videos are making me want to play. Im waiting for next paycheck lol
Completed trials for cammy last night, little did i know you can dash normally out of heavy punch for a drive dash which made that tricky advanced 5 combo just that bit easier lol
Dude that was cool to watch
I cant wait to see what crazy stuff cammy can do in the future man.
cammy will never do these combos because they suck. their damage output is trash. the only cammy combo's you'll see online are her level 2 EX DP combo and she has a lot of drive-rush whiff punish-type short combos that do like 20%-25%. Cammy's current scaling on her juggles on most of her moves makes unrewarding to play. Just look Advance 3. You spend 4 green bar meter and 1 ex bar meter to do 34% damage. In comparison, Ryu can do 30% with 1 bar with less effort and so can many other character like Honda has easy 30% hit-confirm as well. 4X as many resources for 0 reward. Mannon's grabs are legit 40% 1 button.
@@dodang_9147 yeah but cammy looks cooler while doing it so therefore shes better
@@Padlock_Steve Sure in casual but most player that play games want to win and if these combo are not optimal. they won't get used.
@@dodang_9147 actually most players who play games play to have fun
@@dodang_9147 I played Kitana throughout MK11s lifespan and she had the exact same problem, too much effort for too little reward. Unlike Kitana, I think Cammy's fun to play, she has good normals, she's fast, her animations and combos are flashy and diverse, for that alone I think they're rewarding to learn and execute.
My only complaints is hooligan is still kinda useless and her damage doesn't make sense for a rushdown.
But you're right, I'm going to switch to Ken and play her just for fun
I would really dig seeing Dee Jays combo trial next! 😁 In his classic outfit if possible✌
17:22 Did not know that, ty for the tip
For whatever reason I struggled with Cammy Intermediate 9 with cp into super, but I got it by cheesing with cp into dash cancel punch then super lol.
I literally did the exact same thing on the cammy trial, didn't realize there are 3 different ex versions of hooligan that have different properties.
Kimberly's last one is hard. I gave up. Most of hers is tricky as well. I think it's around 7-8. Same as Luke's due to needing perfect timing. So far I've completed Ken, Ryu, Gief, Jamie, Marisa, Lily and Manon
I'm playing jamie on sf6, but I haven't got to see the trial yet. 😅 also hype for your video there are always good, to learn something or talk about something "" also I don't realy know how to use correctly the green drive in combo "(one of my friend told me you can hold the medium punch and dash after the medium move)
I was doing her trails last night. They're not hard....they're EXTRA. I feel like when the devs decided her frame links they did so to stop her from being way too powerful. Some of those combos are unintuitive in what you would imagine you are allowed to chain together. Crazy.
Yeah I’ve been labbing cammy and working through trials, and there were a few “oh, I didn’t think you could link those” moments.
You don't see Jim doing it, but that last one you can let the arrow finish all the hits and still have hangtime to do the lvl 3. Granted it will be reversed as you end up on the other side but it still lands.
I've never played a fighting game before and I've been learning with modern controls. I wanted to try Cammy because she seemed fast and agile and fun, so I went into combo trials to learn what I expected to be some useful general combos for me. Even on Modern I got absolutely blasted and ended up giving up. I'm gonna play Luke instead for a bit and learn how to play the video game first lol
Just a heads up, most fighting game trial combos aren't that practical. They're just for the challenge and sometimes to show some of the stuff that's possible. You'll be better off learning some simple combos from youtube
@@jordibaizabal5682 SF6 trials are pretty optimized, most of Cammy's one are BnB
Goodluck learning the game! I'm a noobi cammy too, hmu if u ever wanna spar
Bro, learning combos on pad is so dang tough. Idk if hitbox or stick make them marginally easier to execute but I could barely finish the “beginner” ones on it.
@@torchlight1785 i learnt SF4 on pad, it's not a matter of controller but a matter of habbit, persist enough and you'll get used to it.
This is my first street fighter game so I’m bad at attack canceling because I’m used to ggst and dbzfighterz and mk but it’s so fun to play cammy because she plays like sin from ggst with short fast high dammage combos and can even do long combos and has good mixups
I don't know why i didn't see that shit sooner thank you much for the video.
Now i want to see you do all the trials :D
I'm on the Last one for Cammy...I'm new to street fighter and the cancel into super is tricky for me. I did JP and his one was fun. You have me fearing Guile's trial. haha!
🌚🌚🌚 seeing him breeze thru stuff I’ve been stuck on especially cammy. She takes so much patience
Chun Li : ah
Nobody : ...
JM : OH SO IT'S THE LAUNCHER
Would love to see the Dhalsim combo trials, everyone talks about how technical of a character he is but idk if his combos are that hard or if he just has a lot of spacing stuff required to make his moves work they way they're supposed to
The trials really dip into what's important for mixing with Dhalsim, it's a good trial. He is very spacing dependent, a lot of his recovery depends on how far away you are. Hope you got those trials he's my favorite character to play.
chun actually does have that command cross up in sfv. although it's a full kick instead of a knee
I believe that variant originated in 3rd Strike.
These parry-drive rush cancel combos make me realize how balls easy X-Factor cancel combos where in UMvC3
Can’t wait to play the game with one hand!
I only use dpad on a controller, so it took me quite a while to do Cammy's trials. Crazy seeing them done so easily
...? Why did you say that like it's a handicap? Plenty of people play on D pad just fine, you just suck.
That’s impressive you did them. I’m using the PS5 pad, which imo has the worst dpad.
@@torchlight1785 it is, man. It's tearing up my thumb near the nail. I'm starting to think I'm getting too old and stubborn lol
Oh man, this game's crazy.
I still like KoF more, but this game sure looks like it has a great future
KoF is so underrated
Same, I'll be sticking to both games in the long run. I'm so happy both Capcom and SNK are still making great fighting games.
hey jmcrofts, I've only done honda's and blanka's trials, and struggled a bit on blanka's advanced 2. i was wondering if i could see you do blanka's trials and get your opinion on them
15:40 How do you super cancel from a light/jab? Been stuck on this trial for ages and can't find any shortcut inputs
9:48
"That is such a cOOl combo",
Words, a World Warrior, Jun. 20×3
Us Cammy mains have to get arthritis to do less damage than a Ken target combo smh
You know that even advanced combo that is quite hard to do for Cammy will deal less damage than monkey-easy Ryu 3 hit combo right? Cammy damage is pathetic compared to rest of the cast right now.
Funnily enough for the Cammy Hooligan loop trial, Pad players (or anyone who uses triple punch and triple kick shortcuts) just get it for free because triple punch does the "heaviest" version
I've seen threads and my friends and I have been having a he'll of a time with intermediate 9 Cammy, cause of the crlp xx level 1. Might be worth making a quick video since you described it as easy.
I'm new to fighting games and I was practically pulling my hair out trying to get cammy intermediate 9! Glad those threads exist because because I wouldn't have figured it out on my own
Same, I was stuck on that one for so long
I got stuck in this one for so long. I think there has to be a shortcut or something. The cancel window is as tight as those pants
I just did that combo and it took me days to do. I was barely trying when I did it and it just came out🙃 I wished it came out as easy when I was trying and now I’m just stuck on the very last combo and I had to give it a break after spending 30 minutes on it
There is a lot of nuance with which buttons you choose for EX in a lot of these trials that have caused me untold hell. Lots of heights issues across the board because of the combination you use.
2:49 tis combo looks sick!
I played for about 100 hours in world tour (with cammy style) mode and cammy in training before even attempting this. This Cammy trial was the only one i've attempted so far (besides lukes in modern, just to test the controls) and i found them pretty easy, although i had many hours of experience with the char. The dive kick shenanigans are really mess up, i remember spending hours with that shit in the world tour practice mode (which is REALLY limited) to figure that out by myself. That said, i'm enjoying cammy a lot in this game, even though i never played her before;
19:20
Sick combos
Cammy's overdrive hooligan changing based on buttons really confused me, so I finally came to watch this vid to see what trickery was going on lol
At 19:30 They do need to tell you which buttons you need to press, the combo button on the combo is red, which means heavy.
? It literally doesn't. It says QCF (white 👊) (white 👊)
Im new to fighting games and I cant for the life of me get the cammy intermediate trial 9 down consistently on a pad. Something about crouch light into super i just cant get it out fast enough. Is the trial just really hard or am I just not fast enough on the input?
I'm upset he got Chun's advanced 3 so fast. By far her hardest trial for me. Between the awkward stance input from b.hp into an annoying ex fireball link, into the fairly quick mp-cr. mp link making it a quick charge issue took me so long to get all of them to connect in the same combo.
what’s the hardest combo trial you’ve done?
Makoto in third Strike has a trial that took me over 3 hours, that's probably hardest
can you tk the ex move in cammy's advance 3 instead of doing medium and heavy?
Kimberly and deejay my dude. They are fun!
I love when you say something is the most basic combo when it's more advanced than anything I can perform.
Everyone seems happy since the release of SF6
Def wanna see Blanka trials, there's some weird stuff in there.
Hi everyone I got a question. Is it still worth playing USF4 to practise for 6? I don't want to pay 60 bucks yet.
Are the inputs for combos etc transferable?
Dude, do the Manon Trials next if you haven't along with Marisa. Along with Kim and Juri.
Spin Knuckle actually crossed up in V too.
You need to try using both hands for Cammy, that'll make it much easier.
These trails aren't the only thing that's hard👀
Blanka's advanced trial 2 is pretty tough
I'm wondering why in some combos 10:34 (second from the bottom) it lists a double kick button icon for what is essentially a dash move?
It’s one of ken’s command normals called quick dash that can be followed up with other special moves only accessible through the dash
@@RadBoyEloy Thankyou for explaining, much appreciated 👍
Ken has an insane 47% combo that requires 4 gage meter and only lvl 2 super. nHK(punish counter or not) -> jihnri -> OD Dragon Lash -> OD Jihnri -> lvl 2 super. can easily seal round 2 or 3 if u have the resources.
blankas need love too ❤
11:00
Ken having sick combos
JM: "Is it really worth spend?"
Us: it was really worth watching
Can you do Zangief Trials bro? I find df+M.P into his level 1 and 2 to be hard, however, I might be a scrub lol
Cammy trials were super easy for me and i can't DR at all. The hardest one was the intermediate one with Crouch light into super
Do all of them!
I have such a hard time getting ken's run cancel specials to go off I gave up on using him entirely
It was tricky but it only took him 5 minutes….. what are you using a hit box or stick? Cause I can’t even get passed most intermediate trials with a controller lol
Fuck thats impressive, I am Currently stuck on her intermediate combos
19:33
I knew I wasn't crazy
Hi jmcrofts. I have been following your content and I am a huge fan, especially of the way you are constantly improving things like your narration style, video and voice production, etc.. Your videos have been enormously helpful for me not just for learning fighting games, but appreciating and enjoying important parts of fighting game culture as well.
I am wondering if you are aware of a former pro fighting game player named 'DarkSydePhil'? He took 4th in Super Turbo at EVO 2005, and he is recently playing Street Fighter 6 on stream seemingly as a way to get back into the FGC culture. He is struggling a lot, however, with basic concepts like frame data making moves 'safe', countering drive impacts, etc.. He also has a particularly difficult time with the mental side of learning-blaming the game instead of himself, salting when his opponent beats him, concluding a move is broken after only a single match, etc..
It is probably a bit of a stretch, but I wondered if you would be willing to make a short video aimed at helping him improve his attitude and fundamentals. I think he could really benefit from the level of knowledge and compassion you always present, and might actually be able to make diamond with your help.
Thanks as always for the video. Loving your steady releases, and hoping to see more SF6 content soon.
Cammy trials felt pretty ez but took a long time for me (90 min overall) because she had some pretty long combos and I suck at dp inputs/remembering stuff
meanwhile that random manon just did the equivalent damage with just a single command
There are hard combos in SF6?
News to me
whenever I click on a jmcrofts video I say "FOLKS!" out loud to myself.
Men god only know how much I would like to get Sakura in SF6 with all these mechanics her combo would be insane, please let it happen
Everyone playing SF6
Cammy Playing UMVC3
"that one's not so bad" 😭
Yeah man I find them really *hard* to do... haven't tried using both of my hands though...
Dude I hate Ken advanced 4 I can’t hit the second kick and when I hit it the dp doesn’t come out 😢
I would appreciate if you cover the advanced 3 from Kimberly. I'm stuck with that instant airborne combo 😅
If that's the air tatsu on do qcb then uf kick to get it instant air. If that's the EX throw, do the "tiger knee" motion, which is qcf/uf in a single motion
@@Brennus411 It is the air tastu, Thanks bro! I'll try that later
Ken overwhelmed me smh
i cant get the intermediate level 9 i dont know how to buffer with stick :/
Advanced 4 for cammy does more damage if you cancel into her lvl 2 i think, and advanced 5 does more damage if you dont cancel into her lvl 3.. there are more optimal damage combos than these obviously but its still worth noting..
Are you using joypad or hitbox
Zangief,blanka and dahlisim
Ken now reminds me of Hayate from DOA
The only one I can’t do is the super after the down light punch in intermediate 9 its impossible to move your fingers that fast.