HOW TO CHOOSE THE CORRECT MOTOR, GEARING, ESC, TUNE FOR YOUR NPRC DRAG CAR | PREP | FULL TUTORIAL
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Thanks for what you do. Alot of dragster doesn't like sharing under the hood secrets. The video 📹 will help alot of newbies like me .
I try :)
Thank you for not being selfish with your knowledge and for helping me with with tuning and suspension setup, looking forward to watching more of your great videos...💪💪💪👍👍👍💯💯💯
Anytime man. I try my best to spread the word. Got a really good one coming in a few days!! Appreciate the kind words
Thanks for the video. Really interesting and informative.
one of the most under rated channels. love your stuff! FYI I am in Columbus, Ohio. Love to meet up
Thanks my man. Yeah I would hope so some time
jackson Ms
Getting better man keep at it looking good
Trying to be fast like you man!
@@Dorkyand40 shit brother I'm just middle-of-the-pack we're all learning together looks like the land of prep is inevitable
You killing the videos on the rc drag stuff I love it 👍🏽
Thanks man. I’m trying
@@Dorkyand40 I learned a lot from your videos, time to play with gearing
Prepare for a long ride :) I would pick a spur like 87 and start with a 15-16 pinion and work up. Don’t bounce all around like me. If you use that app once you find a gear you like you can plug in the numbers and make a change that’s equivalent faster
@@drrcs891 That's what I'm saying that's Sensi Chad.
@@Dorkyand40 yea that’s exactly what I leaned from your video lol thanks
Great content!..its all about TBS decal on the door!croping time! Cheers from Cyprus
Lol. It makes it faster :)
Trappy push:)
did you run into any issues controlling the throttle phase through the radio? i noticed through my maclan motor it tells me not too lol
Thanks for the video. Really considering getting into this part of the rc hobby. Have drones, bashers, monster trucks but this peaks my interest. Just not sure about races in my area. But my forte is auto mechanics and drag racing, have done it all my life, Mustangs , Chevelles etc so I know the game its a little different being electric powered, adds a new element. Wondering how costly the data loggers are or some of the setups your using, have not researched that part yet. How are you getting your times...from the data logger or did you have sensors on the road? Assuming the data logger.
But I could watch the rc drag racing all day, or any drag racing. Love it!
Speed and times all come either from a $90 gnss we put on our cars and or a local track timing system. We get all our car data through the esc and it’s built in logging. Start my videos around March and April this past year and watch all the progression and you’ll get an idea of what goes into it and what a few different platforms will do for you. It’s all here.
All that work my friend is paying off. What's good Chad? I'm just settling down to watch your video wife home from Breast Cancer surgery all is super well. I see gearing can take time to get to where you're consistent. I'm getting to my Losi finally 3.5 with the Maclan ill keep you posted this week when I test. Gearing my main concern.
Hope it all went smooth snd she recovers fast big guy!!
@@Dorkyand40 Thank you. 👍🏽
hello cool vid man.. what brand of tire warmers are they in this vid I like the use of 1 battery, thank you sir.
I got these from desert hobbies but all those west coast stores like desert snd jakes sell some.
Thanks for sharing yr process , have you experienced any brownouts due to that voltage drop into the 5s ?
Never did. Also don’t see those kind of drops anymore especially with a 4 pole motor
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Thanks for the reply , just setup my DR10M with the R1 and castle 4 pole and I'm getting voltage drops to 6.8 causing loss of car control at full load - not good ! Running a new team zombie 6900, 300c bat . What would you suggest ?
Good morning! HELP! Can I use ESC XR10 pro with brusheless slingshot 3.5t for Drag Race?
Sure can
2.55 at 64 65 mph, you must have a whole lot of spinning!!!! I run a 2.46 at 53 mph on pure stock electronics
awesome keep it up
Where did you get the 96T spur?
I'm after 1 for myself and can't find any
Usually fivestarhobbies
Are you sure the motor and ESC are healthy?
Up until last weekend, running a GNSS 2.34 with my 3.5 DRK setup was pretty easy assuming the road would take it. The 4.5 high traction tune with 35 turbo (20 can), 10 slew, .15 delay would get it done. This is in a much heavier Losi roller with 13.21 FDR. However, something seems to have changed this past weekend. Same type of tune is (was) only good for a 2.5 something. To even run a 2.4 flat required launching at 60% and ramping to 100% in well less than a second. Then, the motor stopped working in Sensor Mode. Haven't figured out yet if it's the motor or ESC (or both) that have gone bad. I'm currently awaiting a response from Maclan before send 1 or both in for repair.
How did the race go?
as far as i can tell its all good. the esc was one sent back brand new from their recall. my times are the fastest they have been but ive always noticed the drk seems to like to be babied. i didnt try to see if it would run better at lower timing. i didnt make it to the race since i got stuck working at the hospital but did make it out locally on sunday and things ran good. this setup is getting moved to my dr10 in the new brisket chassis and im going to be trying a castle monster 8s and 2.5 trinity in the breakout. going to maiden it tonight :)
@@Dorkyand40
This COVID stuff is out of control. Both of my parents were recently in Canton hospitals and they were packed full of COVID cases. Stay safe.
Maclan tells me the problem is almost certainly the motor. While I wait for word on repair parts availability, I just ordered an R1 Wurks 3.0T to play with. Worst case, I still have a Hobby Wing 5.5 I can throw in if I decide to go play this weekend.
Good call I heard they had some ready to ship.
And yeah it sucks. Hopefully trends down within the next few weeks.
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My experience with the R1 3.0T is the same as yours with the Holeshot. Trying to run it hard only makes DRK and CNHL batteries drop their voltage into the 5s. I'm going to need a parallel pack to run this thing. In the meantime, it's coming out and the 3.5T DRK with a fresh board, reshimmed and ceramic bearings is going back in.
Bro have you tried changing from that 48 pitch gearing and going to 32 pitch gearing. I changed my losi to 32 pitch and the top speed I got was 70mph. I’m running the tekin 3 turn drag motor with the gen 3 rx8 and I’m still trying to figure out a good tune to use that’s my only issue at this point.
That’s good to know. I’ve never messed with gearing pitch on these at all.
I'm the opposite, Im a believer in 48P for short run drag applications, more gearing, smoother running, along with a few other reasons 💯🏁🤙🏽
They run hard too. Need to find the details of what this new soflo champion ran
@@Dorkyand40 I know lol, I'm constantly trying to find out what the best Drivers are running, from gearing to motors tires & everything in between 😂
Most of it is solid. I’m really happy with my gear and it’s performed well for me.
I’m curious what you were launching at when you were tuning with the drk and the sanwa
stage 1 40 .25 stage 2 65 .20 stage 3 85 .15 stage 4 100 .5 stage 5 100 .5 turbo 100 o.1 delay 60deg and 8.3-16.3 slew punch at 1
@@Dorkyand40 I meant when you were controlling the ramp with the radio. What was the starting point
100 on all stages 0.05 delay on all stages. Point 10/25 on radio depending on ramp or curve. I start at point 10 and ramp 96 and then move up point snd when road takes 30 at 96 I drop back down to 10 and ramp 95. And repeat
We do here no prep 1.8 on the gnss by sky rc
awesome. keep flying
Great Videos!!! Do you prefer M17 or Futaba & how many stages of ramping does the M17 have? Cheers Man... OIIIO
Thanks a bunch
@@Dorkyand40 Does the M17 have three stages of ramping as well Bro? Thanks
It complicated but here we go. When it’s all said and done you have about 5/6 useable ramp speeds. Each is like one long stage. You set an initial launch point and then the ramp takes over and brings in the power at a certain speed. Then you can control the slope of that speed and finally you can change how much of a final ramp you get by adjusting dual rate. So there’s a lot going on.
Asome Stuff brow is the gearing 48dp or 64dp can say that please nice day Manuel from Europa
All 48p sir. Thank you much
Try truning the pumch way down to anout 20 or less,
I go back and forth between 10 and 80. Can’t really decide which one I like the best lol
Did you like the ramping of the radio better or running the stages? I’m currently going to try and ramp it off of my 7pxr
I like them both. The drk software is working for now but the ramping obviously works as well. I’m going to try it again.
Yea i fried a drk doing the ramping on the 7pxr smh im actualy going to just stick to the tried and tru mmx8s with my ron 3.0t trinity almost in the low 2’s ! No matter what i did to that esc it just took it even with the amps maxing out on almost every log used every battery you could think off low turn motors just eat batteries with aggressive gearing oh well pay to play still fun
@@nolimitrc1 I’ve had some pretty good luck with ramping through the drk so far, I have a good tune on it finally that it seems to like and I’m making consistent passes in the 2.3’s. She has more in her just gotta get the fine tuning down right.
@@jarrodferguson8964 well i have 3 drks now if the rma makes it back soon enough im going to put it through its paces and max it out an run off of the 7pxr but im hearing the way the m17 ramps the power in is softer on the rx and esc might look into grabbing one of those
It is. I’ll be testing it again when the dr10 is back up and running.
Hey Chad where do I buy the weight box for the front of the car ?
Five star hobbies
what type of 2s lipo battery are you using?
r1
Info on the brake out chassis??
I have an entire build series and review of it on the channel
you say the timing in the ESC is turned all the way up but what is the timing on the can?
32
@@Dorkyand40 32 degrees in the can and 60 in ESC for a total of 92?
32 can and 45 esc for my castle. 60 for the drk.
What’s up bud idk if you are familiar with my buddys CZcams #rcfun but I’ve been racing with him I just put a drk esc in my car last Thursday from the hobby wing with the trinity hole shot 3.5 but can’t break the 2.3 mark any tips????
its all in the videos man..takes a lot of work..took me 16 hours to get through these tests and i know what im doing. started at a 3.0s in april and its been a slow climb. find your gearing..setup your chassis right and then stat with their default tunes and start working the stage times closer together while looking at the logs and finding voltge drops or tire spins. find a good surface and go there every time to test or youll be chasing your tail
@@Dorkyand40 thanks man I’m from mass got a good spot I had my hobby wing doing low 2.2s and then was in a rush plugged my battery in backwards and everything in my car stopped working
I’m gonna be watching all your vids in the next few days to get some knowledge lol thanks bud
What tire warmers are those?
Desert hobbies
I have a lot of rc cars and trucks I do a lot of off road racing and carpet racing but I’m interested getting in to drag racing what is a good car or truck to start of with I watch a lot of videos but still can’t make up my mind on losi traxxis or other brands what would you suggest
If your looking rtr then I’d say maybe Traxxas since it’s cheapest snd there’s a few decent chassis kits if you want to upgrade. Otherwise the r1 dc1 is the most complete kit with the most value.
What gear app do you use?
It’s a free one called gear calculator pro. Pretty basic.
Still liking the chassis? Getting one in a few days.
More and more each time. Just so many options and they keep releasing options amd hop ups weekly
@@Dorkyand40 what springs you liking on it? Any place good for setup info?
It comes with and they have a complete build and chassis setup guide online. They sell the rcforless springs that most use in the rear. Front springs are the ones that come in the b6.3 kit. Oils of 2k and 80. All in their setup sheet. That’s what I run.
@@Dorkyand40 ok thanks.
cat pack prob fried because your running a 3. motor on that esc?
HMM..so did tim smith all year
@@Dorkyand40 I mean I'm only suggesting, & mostly because your not running it mediocre or conservativly, your pouring everything but the kitchen sink into that thing 😂 (which I don't blame you) but I'm thinking you overloaded it with all your timing, boost & whatever else your adding to it.. 💯🏁🤙🏽Great Vids
Thanks. I had 2 drk. One of the original and it never had an issue and I replaced the cap with a bigger one. It never blew. The second drk was part of the recall. I got a new one back and that cap blew. Lots of others were as well. So I think the chip shortage and things like that made them make them cheaper. Not a big deal. The new drk has a nice one. Not as big as my castle pack :) thanks for dropping by
Get a sanw m17 and your good. 👍🏁🏁
@@Dorkyand40 hi chad what is better sanwa m17 or futaba 7px i also thought about buying futaba 4pm 🤷🏽♂️
Change to a castle 8s mmx
👍
I would love to understand this gearing stuff much better than I do.
You just have to grab some and do the work snd log the data and see how your car reacts. All of them work it’s just what will work better.
Dude love you show
1/4 mile or in our WOURLD 132 ft is all about et not mph
apprecaite it rick :)
Are you in Jersey?
ohio
go to Guy for pricison work of the controller 👌
I'm running a 4.5 turn holeshot drag master on a breakout. I have no idea what to expect expect from this motor, and had to fix a few things just to get running. I don't understand much about these manual timing motors. 19/96? Is that gearing? I've heard 60° is max for timing as a max? Any help appreciated. I've got a couple drag cars, running different setups, and am more comfortable with brushless setups, burly how can I get faster? My dr10 is running a 4600tp on a mamba monster, and flies. The velineon 3500 is ok, but my dr10 smokes it and the losi22 2s to 3s. They run three, and I yard em. I've heard great things about these drag motors, but don't know where to start. Great vid.
Dude it’s time. Time for you to to a track with real time measurements
Those satellites are 1500 to 2000 miles in space
You need to get real time
+- .2 sec using a satellite is possible
+- 2 mph using a satellite is possible
got em later in the summer
Lets go to Tappan Chad
Goood ole days