[HoI4] Poland Joins Axis [WW2 AI Timelapse] What if?

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  • čas přidán 31. 10. 2020
  • In this HoI4 AI only "historic" scenario, Poland goes into the alternative history and joins Axis. What impact will Axis Poland have on Barbarossa and potentially the wider World War 2 theater? Scenario is otherwise set to a historic setting.
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Komentáře • 202

  • @FRANVEBER
    @FRANVEBER Před 3 lety +633

    So basically Adolf just needed Poland to win WW2

    • @eggrollsoup
      @eggrollsoup Před 3 lety +48

      well germany was also given a buff here.

    • @keremerbas8735
      @keremerbas8735 Před 3 lety +54

      He just needed oil

    • @goofy575
      @goofy575 Před 3 lety +18

      Maybe being to selfish in splitting Poland wasn’t such a good idea

    • @eggrollsoup
      @eggrollsoup Před 3 lety +6

      @Товарищ LighTZY what about the danzig massacre and the fact that many poles were jews? There were several more reasons.

    • @kacperdudenko6828
      @kacperdudenko6828 Před 3 lety +13

      @@eggrollsoup It's the fact that hitler want poland as friend, becouse Poland have big amount of land that could have claim on, so the purging the partisans would be easier because a part of population were Polish so the administration would be easier then getting German to travel to Russia to administrate like it happens in real world

  • @enorez4302
    @enorez4302 Před 3 lety +257

    Is no one going to talk about how the Afghans fought the Soviets alone and managed to encircle some of their units

  • @user-ez6qg8hg3k
    @user-ez6qg8hg3k Před 3 lety +127

    Germany: watch yourself, Poland, I’m coming for you
    Poland: no.
    Germany: ?
    Poland: I’m in your team now
    Germany: huh.... okay?

    • @stephencarroll9935
      @stephencarroll9935 Před 3 lety +6

      Well until the previous leader of poland died there was never going to be war between the two

  • @doodlydoo3935
    @doodlydoo3935 Před 3 lety +176

    Poland: *joins Axis*
    Allies: "Hey, you're not supposed to do that."

  • @charger9912
    @charger9912 Před 3 lety +323

    I must say the Allies did well holding France.

    • @ghostduty8359
      @ghostduty8359 Před 3 lety +9

      As always

    • @ghostduty8359
      @ghostduty8359 Před 3 lety +2

      @The Valkist do you think germany ai can make super divisions? he makes default ones and spams heavy tanks

    • @ghostduty8359
      @ghostduty8359 Před 3 lety +2

      @The Valkist for the ai germany its not easy wich makes the holding of france .. As always

    • @twitchMrde
      @twitchMrde Před 3 lety +2

      @The Valkist just let the man make his joke

    • @user-ov2sr8mv8c
      @user-ov2sr8mv8c Před 3 lety +1

      @@ghostduty8359 95% Germany divisions go to fighting soviet union only 10~40 division in france It can makes Ez D-day

  • @madhuakkaraju5509
    @madhuakkaraju5509 Před 3 lety +119

    Danzig or alliance apparently

    • @sontrombone6907
      @sontrombone6907 Před 3 lety +11

      Danzig and alliance

    • @baileyduggan3659
      @baileyduggan3659 Před 3 lety +11

      Alliance for danzig

    • @eddieschwab864
      @eddieschwab864 Před 3 lety

      They probably had to cede some land elsewhere in Germany possibly the area around konigsberg or part of Southwestern Prussia along the Polish border to compensate for the Danzig corridor oh, not to mention allowing open trade through the Danzig Corridor and port.

  • @MichaelDavis-mk4me
    @MichaelDavis-mk4me Před 3 lety +82

    I've got an idea : Africa is a single giant country.

    • @PadaV4
      @PadaV4 Před 3 lety

      Oh that sounds interesting.

    • @Real_Tower_Pizza
      @Real_Tower_Pizza Před 2 lety

      What about: Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Oman, Iraq and Ireland joins Axis?

    • @theroyalereplay2294
      @theroyalereplay2294 Před 2 lety +6

      United States of Africa (USA)

    • @anjanajnair
      @anjanajnair Před 2 lety +1

      Wait it isn't!!!?? 😱😱😱

    • @itsalmostfun8567
      @itsalmostfun8567 Před rokem

      @@theroyalereplay2294 yea make sense sometimes states are bigger

  • @Manuel1995BEL
    @Manuel1995BEL Před 3 lety +28

    When axis reconquered france, the allies suffered 3mil casualties in a very short period

    • @user-fb9ql8bm2e
      @user-fb9ql8bm2e Před 2 lety

      Yeah that massive spike in the casualty chart was crazy

  • @noname00399
    @noname00399 Před 3 lety +47

    The Polish book Ribbentrop-Beck by Piotr Zychowicz tells about that scenario.

    • @mefisto654
      @mefisto654 Před 2 lety +1

      Not really. Zychowicz's book tells nothing about Poland fighting western allies.

    • @Fridaey13txhOktober
      @Fridaey13txhOktober Před 2 lety +2

      It's unrealistic, tho. Anglo-French would simply have sided with the Soviet-Union against Poland, Romania and Germany. WW2 might even have started with the strategic bombing of Ploesti by the RAF from Crimea.

    • @coinyfrombfdireal
      @coinyfrombfdireal Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@Fridaey13txhOktoberas we saw with appeasement of our timeline, the allies really weren't willing to fight the germans if they didn't have too. And I doubt that they would fight to defend the communists, which were even more ideologically different from the Allies than the Nazis were

  • @marcogh
    @marcogh Před 2 lety +16

    I don't think it can be understated how important it was that Japan won against China so quickly.

  • @chadstrats2431
    @chadstrats2431 Před 3 lety +4

    Best HOI4 time lapses, the text narration, realism, etc. Really good.

  • @RisusShorts
    @RisusShorts Před 3 lety +38

    bruh polish divisions just sit there

    • @killert41
      @killert41 Před 2 lety

      That`s because germans didnt lose any man power vs PL so when they went after comintern or wat ever is called they didnt need to use that divisions to help since germans,italians were winning by themselves

  • @Slariux
    @Slariux Před 3 lety +22

    What if Gran Colombia reunited and join the axis

  • @clydesteele2925
    @clydesteele2925 Před 3 lety +19

    Idk how often this happens in AI only games, but what about triggering that non-aligned officer uprising in the Soviet Union and buffing them so they actually win? I wonder how they'd do if they actually won.

  • @johannstrasser1178
    @johannstrasser1178 Před 3 lety +7

    Fascinating! always love your works mate'

  • @codybrox4693
    @codybrox4693 Před 2 lety +5

    Dude this one legit became the 1984 setting
    All of the main fighting is happening in Africa as well!

  • @antaresmaelstrom5365
    @antaresmaelstrom5365 Před 3 lety +2

    Man that inexorable slow steam roll into comintern at 1:50.

  • @tomiovodabing
    @tomiovodabing Před 3 lety

    very nice, love your videos

  • @fiammanerapatrick3215
    @fiammanerapatrick3215 Před 3 lety +5

    Hey, what mod do you use for you to be able to see each individual unit on your screen? The original Timelapse Unit Display mod had gone Private or something, so I would like to know what you use. Thanks!

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety +2

      I use a different private mod. But mate, and don't take this personally, there is only deception, dishonor and thievery between HoI timelapsers. It's on a level where I don't really feel the need to mingle with any past, present and likely future timelapsers ;) there is 0 joy and reason in cooperating with other timelapsers, in my experience. Hence why I only rarely answer such questions.

    • @fiammanerapatrick3215
      @fiammanerapatrick3215 Před 3 lety +2

      @@GameWatcher545 Hmm.. Okay. I ain't a Timelapser, I just find it cool to see the individual units on screen like that. Anyway, thanks for answering!

  • @VengefulChampion
    @VengefulChampion Před 2 lety +1

    so the man with the mustache only needed to have allied with Poland to win the second war

  • @Townes888
    @Townes888 Před 2 lety +3

    It was itresting that how the poland participation in axis caused that the finland joins the axis as well

    • @Townes888
      @Townes888 Před 2 lety

      It realy changed the eastern front

  • @pojiratelsisek1626
    @pojiratelsisek1626 Před 3 lety +4

    What if Józef Piłsudski didn't die?

  • @capmayonesa
    @capmayonesa Před 3 lety

    Pretty cool timelapse as always bro. I'm glad you took my idea

  • @xijinping9898
    @xijinping9898 Před 2 lety +1

    When you make videos, how long do you sit there just staring at flags running around a map of the world?

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 2 lety

      often watch the whole thing, it's sad

    • @xijinping9898
      @xijinping9898 Před 2 lety

      @@GameWatcher545 wow, you actually replied.
      i wasn’t expecting that, lol.

  • @thunderedsun203
    @thunderedsun203 Před 3 lety +4

    Britain:if the old world falls the new one will rescue the old world

  • @adrianon375
    @adrianon375 Před 2 lety +2

    Basically, Poland was the key for everything? I'm an indipendent historian and this is fascinating.

  • @chadsix
    @chadsix Před 3 lety

    4:30 encircle n cut of supplies was really harsh

  • @freskoviwechemtidumal3955

    Hi, maybe you've already answered the question, I can't find it, but what configuration do you have in your computer? XD))

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety +2

      2080 GTX, Ryzen 3950X, 32GB RAM, M2 NVMe SSDs - doesn't help HoI4 much, during the worst lag, while recording, CPU use is at 30%. So if you want to upgrade for HoI going too far is pointless.

    • @freskoviwechemtidumal3955
      @freskoviwechemtidumal3955 Před 3 lety +1

      @@GameWatcher545 tnx_)

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety +1

      @@freskoviwechemtidumal3955 np!

  • @Pub4si
    @Pub4si Před 3 lety

    How do u have all these custom settings for hearts of iron 4? Is it a mod?

  • @dejmianxyzsimulations4174

    It was my first scenario which I played Hoi.

  • @lorddominonexus
    @lorddominonexus Před 3 lety

    *Woah, did I just saw a nuclear explosion for a split-second?*

  • @kumandan7481
    @kumandan7481 Před 3 lety

    02:50 what is music name?

  • @lohengramm7798
    @lohengramm7798 Před 3 lety +1

    What is the soundtrack in background?

  • @panakap2186
    @panakap2186 Před měsícem

    There are 5 facts from history:
    Poland had the 4th largest war contribution in Europe against the Axis, France was 5th, even when France was one of the largest armed forces in the world
    The Polish Army prepared for war with the Soviets for much of the interwar period, especially means of transport in the eastern steppes
    The Polish Army in full mobilization would be larger than all of Germany's allies on the eastern front combined
    The Holocaust would never have happened in Poland (in the scenario in which the Axis won), and no genocide occurred in the countries that were loyal.
    The western border of the Soviet Union was historically Polish territory, with many Poles still present, and this would have helped establish control and minimize resistance.

  • @TheMachinist75
    @TheMachinist75 Před 3 lety +9

    how big is poland !!!!!! 🤤

  • @witampana7700
    @witampana7700 Před 3 lety +3

    Dla Polaków polecam książkę Pakt Ribbentrop-Beck

  • @igals2343
    @igals2343 Před 3 lety

    Epic battle! What is the music?

  • @sauronmordor7494
    @sauronmordor7494 Před 3 lety +1

    nice

  • @g.stathopoulos_
    @g.stathopoulos_ Před 3 lety +1

    Adolf: i have dominated all asia and europe in some seconds greece: hipity hopity get out of my properties

  • @youtubenoob1083
    @youtubenoob1083 Před 3 lety +1

    How u got these graphs?

  • @o.h2202
    @o.h2202 Před 3 lety +1

    Afghanistan pulled UNO reverse card 40 years ahead

  • @zack4915
    @zack4915 Před 3 lety +1

    Germany: Yesss we took like most of Eurasia and Africa by 1961
    US nukes: *Ee-e-e-oh-mum-a-weh*

  • @trollkenobi6727
    @trollkenobi6727 Před rokem

    4:24
    When the Axis does D-Day

  • @luismariocarbone2723
    @luismariocarbone2723 Před 3 lety +1

    What about a industrial power Italy?

  • @soldiercantkill
    @soldiercantkill Před 3 lety +3

    why did finland join the axis? focus mod? commands?

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety +1

      It always does. Well in Expert AI at least. I haven't played vanilla in a while

    • @eddieschwab864
      @eddieschwab864 Před 3 lety +1

      @@GameWatcher545 simple because they hated the Russians more than they dislike the Germans that's why they always join the axis.

    • @FuckGoogle2
      @FuckGoogle2 Před 2 lety +1

      To regain land lost in the Winter War. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  • @Gatinjin
    @Gatinjin Před 3 lety

    What happened to Poland at 2:46? All of its units became yellow, did their country changed from falangist?

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety

      Can't say I know what happened there. They swap to Russian and then to those yellow flags and back. Thought it is perhaps Soviet expeditionary force that they took, but did not seem so.

  • @kennedytheretard975
    @kennedytheretard975 Před 3 lety

    tfw Danzig For Slovakia works on a historical game

  • @DanielCobblestone
    @DanielCobblestone Před 3 lety +2

    Lol, irl in the 1930's when an alliance with Poland by the Germans was still being considered, they wanted to divide Russia with Poland like they did here. Is it just coincidence or the devs actually putting it into the game?

    • @frakcjainspiracja3107
      @frakcjainspiracja3107 Před 3 lety +2

      No, Germany wanted such plans, Poland only expected correct relations. they signed a non-aggression pact which the Germans broke, later they signed the ribbetrop-molotov pact with Russia and broke it too.

  • @ws5861
    @ws5861 Před 2 lety +1

    Russians should be thank full that we never joind axis. Some people at that Time sugested that but never happened. Soviets should help us, but they put knife in ours back 17th of september 1939

  • @the_warr10rs
    @the_warr10rs Před 2 lety

    I like how saudi arabia just chilling watching the war in the corner whole time.

  • @batzal9459
    @batzal9459 Před 3 lety +3

    you stopped before the real fun began (the axis had twice the amount ships of the allies)

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety

      mhm man they did nothing for 10 years

    • @batzal9459
      @batzal9459 Před 3 lety

      @@GameWatcher545 AI should be more open to different fields of war, the german navy AI sucks, and even when they have more ships than the allies, they won't launch an attack

  • @lyvindy0527
    @lyvindy0527 Před 2 lety

    Axis + Poland = Overpowered

  • @remi906
    @remi906 Před 3 lety +2

    Can you do a mega campaign ?

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety +1

      Appreciate the tip but probably wouldn't go there atm

  • @australianphotographer234

    What if turkey faught with the axis in WW2 ?

  • @timothyjonathan1599
    @timothyjonathan1599 Před 3 lety +3

    So the award for betraying goes to.... FRANCO!

  • @epicmaster3716
    @epicmaster3716 Před měsícem +1

    Did anybody notice Afghanistan absolutely steamrolling india?

  • @felixmiles4909
    @felixmiles4909 Před 2 lety

    Like watching an anthill. :)
    Poland was given whole Siberia, good deal for them.
    And when rich Switzerland will be finally conquered?

  • @blackandwhitecats4243
    @blackandwhitecats4243 Před 3 lety +1

    Where's is that belgium vid GW?

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety

      Keeping it mind but can't promise when. Belgium world conquest was it?

    • @blackandwhitecats4243
      @blackandwhitecats4243 Před 3 lety

      @@GameWatcher545 "What if belgium joined the allies" not world conquest.

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety

      @@blackandwhitecats4243 ok noted but no promises for when man, thanks for the tip in any case

    • @GameWatcher545
      @GameWatcher545  Před 3 lety

      @@blackandwhitecats4243 "What if Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg joined Allies in 1938?" Or well Lowlands? x) That's a long title.
      But hence after Czechoslovakia. Would be interesting to see what would happen indeed.
      Ok with that setup?

    • @blackandwhitecats4243
      @blackandwhitecats4243 Před 3 lety

      @@GameWatcher545 I'm fine with that just build forts in the lowlands pointing at germnay's border and small buffs.

  • @toddv7257
    @toddv7257 Před 2 lety +1

    7:58 everyone: thicc axis
    Me: why is there a Filipino division in london

    • @MasterBomer
      @MasterBomer Před 2 lety

      it's cuz Philippines was a usa puppet, and usa joined allies

  • @callmewolvie2781
    @callmewolvie2781 Před 3 lety +5

    I wonder why dont the german naval invade the UK :P

    • @nakoamechi
      @nakoamechi Před 3 lety +2

      They don't have the naval capabilities to launch a naval invasion on mainland UK.

  • @BusinessOnCatoNeimoidia
    @BusinessOnCatoNeimoidia Před 3 lety +1

    Poland can into Lebensraum.

  • @flaviusaetius5701
    @flaviusaetius5701 Před 3 lety

    Allies needed Spain MUCH sooner

  • @Icantstop850
    @Icantstop850 Před rokem

    People in France:OH WE'RE LIBERATED! Germans,Polish,Italians and turks: *Hippity hoppity,you're freedom has expired.*

  • @Seethenhagen
    @Seethenhagen Před 2 lety +1

    Ah yes, the Danzig for Moscow agreement

  • @cyber1243
    @cyber1243 Před 3 lety

    The only thing Allies can do is attacking Japan first, cuz its eazier, after japan capitulate, focus on Africa until the Allies get acces on suez canal. Then invade italy, its kinda eazy cuz germany cant put many division to italy, until its capitulated, and hold it. And then, i dont know :v

  • @itsalmostfun8567
    @itsalmostfun8567 Před rokem

    wow it reached 1968 my game crashed at 1946

  • @CaptSilver
    @CaptSilver Před 3 lety

    what the mod

  • @carlosurbina3355
    @carlosurbina3355 Před 3 lety

    Well I mean i feel it’s a bit unrealistic because Poland didn’t really have as much to take on the Nazi blitzkrieg so I don’t think they would survive more then 170.6 million people

  • @Neohack100
    @Neohack100 Před 2 lety

    Everyone praising here Poland but we must not forget Spain. They decided to join the Allies after France and Soviet Union were defeated :D

  • @TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul

    So the average non-historical HOI4 game?

  • @poorpoora
    @poorpoora Před 2 lety

    Hitler said he was lacking 16 divisions to get Moscow and Leningrad. Poland had almost 40 in 1939 - milion strong army which beat russia 20 years eaelier

  • @CalvinMcMurray
    @CalvinMcMurray Před 2 lety

    yet again axis controls half the planet but cant invade an enemy nation in spitting distance of their capitol

  • @DarthRevan0007
    @DarthRevan0007 Před 3 lety +1

    Kommentar für den Algorithmus

  • @metalkixjr7582
    @metalkixjr7582 Před 2 lety

    Is no one talking about how Finland joined the axis

    • @MasterBomer
      @MasterBomer Před 2 lety

      that's normal because finland wants to invade ussr too

  • @oyunchimegbazarsuren3660
    @oyunchimegbazarsuren3660 Před 6 měsíci

    0:11 ??????

  • @mr.potato3595
    @mr.potato3595 Před 3 lety +2

    This is why Germany lost ww2 if Poland was join Axis, Germany could be won ww2

  • @TheEGrievous
    @TheEGrievous Před 3 lety +1

    Ah yes when you lose the African front so you go through Russia instead.

  • @deisk2707
    @deisk2707 Před 3 lety

    Try Independent India (keeping pakistan, bangladesh, and burma) vs United China (get japan out of the intervention)

  • @Arielziito
    @Arielziito Před 2 lety

    oh, yeah, that time when poland allied with germany, denmark never was attacked, the soviets basically lost to afghanistan and the new mongol empire formed

  • @salmansingh66
    @salmansingh66 Před 3 lety

    Ayyee finally tall Iraq

  • @Namelesswhirl
    @Namelesswhirl Před 3 lety

    I did this, and then I turned on Germany after we defeated the Soviets and won.

    • @Namelesswhirl
      @Namelesswhirl Před 3 lety

      Of course it was a different war. England went Fascist, and made a faction with Italy, so I didn't have to fight them.

  • @EntityVsEntityInteractions

    >Nationalist Spain joins the allies

  • @kongeman3030
    @kongeman3030 Před 3 lety +1

    Next do what if Liberia joined the axis, I’m predicting a total victory over both the Comintern and the allies. I’m thinking Moscow in a week then London in another week and then a navel invasion into north England and the capture of Moscow

    • @toddv7257
      @toddv7257 Před 2 lety +1

      And if the allies SOMEHOW manage to hold them off until 1941, then invasion of USA will be easy!

  • @christopherthompson2388

    Some of these Axis ones... feels like I'm watching a horror movie.

  • @gungnir3926
    @gungnir3926 Před 2 lety

    Poland should gave joined anti commintern packt

  • @JakubS
    @JakubS Před 2 lety

    I did a game as Germany were I joined the Międzymorze, and turned Poland fascist by boosting ideology

  • @xenonthemurderer
    @xenonthemurderer Před rokem

    In the end, Poland gets more teritory than Germany, and Germany's territory is not in germany at all. It was is Ukraine.

  • @hokton8555
    @hokton8555 Před 2 lety

    Poland joins Axis because Fascism
    Wait, Franco joins the Allies?!

  • @koulematon7359
    @koulematon7359 Před rokem

    Hitler's ideology was sick and wrong and that is the reason Poland didn't consider joining. For the Germans we were an obstacle.
    I guess if this happened, in the worst case Poland would be forced to move behind Ural mountains (I'm not joking, if Germans would've won, they would've taken a lot of land).
    So aside from ideological differences we had also no trust in such people.
    In my opinion, as an anti-communist I've got to say that an alliance with the USSR would've been the best for Poland in that period.

  • @BusinessOnCatoNeimoidia

    If this doesn't prove Putin is right I don't know what does.

  • @OOOOOOO693
    @OOOOOOO693 Před rokem

    The fairest borders in the USSR...

  • @warmonger5681
    @warmonger5681 Před 3 lety

    Turkey: casually watched world be taken around it

  • @Silverstrike.1
    @Silverstrike.1 Před 3 lety +1

    yo

  • @Furioushunter
    @Furioushunter Před 2 lety

    i love how afghanistan is invading the USSR. Pay back time!

  • @talink6867
    @talink6867 Před 3 lety

    The music is so fucking annoying

  • @JaCrispy3060
    @JaCrispy3060 Před 7 měsíci

    The real winner of this match is afghanistan

  • @witampana7700
    @witampana7700 Před 3 lety

    Tbh this borders are fucked up. Poland would get Mińsk, part of Ukraine and Lithuania. The rest would belong to Reich

  • @hydrosprezarka4204
    @hydrosprezarka4204 Před 3 lety +1

    Do u see it u pitiful germans? If u would be more nice to us Poles u could win this war