The Hollywood Actress Who Helped Invent WiFi - The Lightbulb Moment
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2021
- Actress Hedy Lamarr, deemed the world's most beautiful woman, had an overlooked knack for inventing. During WWII, in an effort to help the Allies, she invented a technology designed to intercept Axis communications. This technology laid the groundwork for wireless internet. This is her story.
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Know the only thing I want to know is what happened to the maid
I researched it and the most accurate and detailed german article stated that she actually fled while her husband was on a hunting trip. I haven't found anything about any maid.
Well I guess the best case is that she actually did flee while the husband was on a hunting trip as there's no need to worry about a maid anymore
Yeah, and if there was a maid its highly unlikely that anything would happen to her, Mandl moved to Argentinia in 1938 leaving his estates in Austria empty. :)
@@enzuki Plot twist, the maid was the hunting trip.
Hedi got away with it because she is a woman.
A bit of a stretch. I wish they would’ve talked more about how the tech was developed because I still have no clue what those two actually created, cuz it doesn’t sound like anything close to wifi or even FHSS.
It's the base technology
Your first sentence was going to be mine but saying she is the mother of wifi I bet there's a boatload of inventors could make that same claim.
@@cgmason7568 Maybe to FHSS but that’s not used in wifi. Which is why I called it a stretch.
The sound frequency pick up a wave of sound just like the light picks up spectrum of color
She didn't invent fhss either
Her work is more related to CDMA( a network similar to GSM) than WiFi.
Nah Wifi is heavily reliant on spread spectrum also because the much lower transmission power and more sensitive to interference.
@@Neojhun CDMA? Absolutely! But yeah, wifi without spread-spectrum is basically a dead rat
FHSS is not used in modern Wi-Fi standards. Those use CSMA/CA and OFDM(A) for channel access. FHSS was only used in the first 802.11.
To be honest it's a well written tale but it's like to say that Wright brothers helped to build a space shuttle. FHSS and AFH are much more complicated than what Lamarr and Antheil wrote in their patent.
yea but we all also know who the wright brothers are as well.
@@respectmychocolate yes but the title is click bait and they should have given her credit for her actual invention
@@alancastro8418 i get where the op is coming from. and a physical aircraft vs a componant for wifi are two different things. but sometimes you have to stretch to bring ppl in
"If I have seen farther, it is by standing on the shoulder of giants." - Isaac Newton
The early plane was a stepping stone on the way to space travel
what a brilliant escape she made from controlling Fritz, disguised as her cleaning lady LOL !! love this woman
Her escape story with the maid seems too fantastic that it seemed "maid" up 😅
But seriously, I have learned of a different - more simple - version of her escape. I hope that this video did not embellish her story as it was already interesting as it is. And it would serve the audience right to explain in a bit more detail the connection of her invention to wifi (maybe even include a shout out to the actual persons who put it all together?)
Embellishing by having her roofie the maid.
In her autobiography, she wrote that she disguised herself as her maid and fled to Paris, but by other accounts, she persuaded Mandl to let her wear all of her jewelry for a dinner party, then disappeared afterward.
Ah, Hedy Lamarr. Nice
That’s “Headley”.
Noice
I knew that based on title. She was a bombshell and a femme fatale... Also in the movies
@@lohphat
I hate you. I planned to make the same comment.
She literally roofies the maid. Nice.
Thank you inventor, actress Hedy.
11:02 Hedy Lamarr was alive in 1997.
Yeah I was confused since she died in 2000
I set my grandma's wifi name to "IP when i sneeze"
lol
hahaha
lolllll
Martin-Router-King, NSA_surveillance_Van#2, hack me if you can ...
all this and it STILL cant reach my room
Buy a better router my dude.
Haha
Buy a better room my dude
Wifi extenders..
The caveman who invented the large hadron collider
Perfect sarcasm... I hope people get it! 👏🏽🙏🏽💯
That'll be Tony stark 😂😂
*This is beyound impressive.* 📡💯
If you're reading this you have the potential to create great things. Yes. You.
Empty platitudes. You should become a politician.
@@Miranox2words have power
@@Hisloyalservantslistenlove613c Critical thinking has more power.
@@Miranox2 Yes, but if not presented in an edifying manner it can be damaging individually and societally.
@@Hisloyalservantslistenlove613c Currently, society has a serious problem of inflated egos due to the self-esteem movement.This is also the main cause of the continuing drop in education quality. We need less ego, not more.
Always thought it was CSIRO Australia that perfected it.
I thought her invention was only used for CDMA.
Her research for frequency hopping in music formed a foundation for any technology that can use frequency hopping.... CDMA works on same logic... ECE graduate here 🤟
Cool story, now give us history please
She's one of my favorite women in history. Both brains and beauty. Another Ada Lovelace.
Wow! genuinely and beautifully gifted
This needs a movie
Another example of a non-US citizen doing great things on US soil. Imagine if all those people were stopped by a "wall" of some kind, where were we today.
Imagine if the US supported all of the brilliant people in their own nation rather than only the brilliant people who also happen to have rich parents, rather than needing to import most of their top talent from other countries.
For a starter "those people" are educated, do not commit a crime crossing the border illegally, want to contribute to society and become citizens. That kind of people are always welcomed and do not fear a wall. Most Americans of latin descent living _legally_ in the US are in favor of the wall, even illegal ones who are honest too. Every single criminal entering from abroad casts a dark shadow on the innocent. The wall is not more discriminatory than you having a door with a lock in your house or your car. So way do you lock your doors??? Why do you have passwords?
Second, if you mean "people of color" are so advanced, intelligent, invent everything, and therefor should be let in by the masses no questions asked. Why exactly why don't they do sh*t in their own countries? Why do they always need to come to the US/Europe, get an education for free, receive welfare and even be assigned a job? No one forces them to migrate to the US. Or do they just magically transform to superbeings when they cross the borders in one direction, but loose everything if crossing back to the other side?
Third, well if there was such a wall would there be thriving Wakandas in all third world countries, while the US/Europe would descend into the dark ages? Funny how migration just goes one way and not in both directions.....
@@joeldelgado3641 You're confusing many related but distinct things:
- The wall isn't ridiculed because its discriminatory. The wall is ridiculed because its a pointless waste of money. The vast majority of illegal immigration passes through existing checkpoints. Its always "scary" to see a few dozen people making a mad dash across 100 yards of barren land while border patrol are chasing them down, but that's still on the order of _dozens._ Not anywhere close to the _hundreds of thousands_ that just lie their way through the official ports of entry.
- The discriminatory part is Trump's policy and attitude toward immigrants. Calling an _entire country_ "rapists and murderers" is not only horrific but its fucking absurd. Kidnapping children and letting them die in cages without even bothering to record who their parents were is very close to if not crossing the line into literal war crimes under the Geneva convention. The wall is just one expensive and poorly-thought-out aspect of Trump's overall awful and inhumane immigration policy. And no, he was never particularly concerned with distinguishing illegal immigrants from legal ones. He wasn't even particularly concerned with distinguishing full-blooded born-in-the-USA Americans who happened to be of Latino descent.
Trump's policy was pure racism, plain and simple. It failed to address the real problems with illegal immigration in any meaningful way while simultaneously being a horrific attack on legal immigration. And not only that, but it was based entirely on country-of-origin. There was never any crackdowns on illegal Canadians or Europeans, of which there are plenty. Gee I wonder what the main difference is between an undocumented Canadian and an undocumented Mexican.
> if you mean "people of color" are so advanced, intelligent, invent everything,
Nobody means that. Why do you racist fools think that "people of color are just as good as white people" is the same as "white people are the worst at everything"? That's not what anyone has ever said, except Tucker Carlson. The real question is, why are you racists so insecure that you think anything short of "white power" is a personal assault on your identity?
> No one forces them to migrate to the US.
Geography does. Of course here you're taking a page from Trump's racist playbook and conflating immigration with refugees. Immigrants who just want a better life can (and do) scout around for their best opportunity. Refugees just go to the closest place they can find that they feel is safer than the place they left. The US is the closest "safe" nation to most of Central America so that's where Central American refugees go. Europe has to deal with refugees from the Middle East and northern Africa for the same reason.
Are you really comparing Europe having to deal with 5 million Syrian refugees against America having to deal with a couple thousand people in a caravan? But of course why would you bother thinking about anyone but yourself, so you probably don't even know/remember that the Syrian refugee crisis even happened never mind the fact that there are still _millions_ of displaced Syrians out there.
> Funny how migration just goes one way and not in both directions
Yeah funny how people want a better life for themselves rather than a worse life. But give it 100 years. Africa is rapidly developing while America is crumbling. If Trumpism comes back and takes over on a longer term basis than one single presidential term, its entirely plausible that 100 years from now Americans will be wanting to emigrate to Ethiopia for a better life.
(Well OK maybe not because climate change likely means pretty much all nations as we currently know them will be redefined over the next century, but that's a whole other discussion so I'll let you ponder yet another way Trump did his best to fuck everything up.)
Hedy Lamarr was a central character in an episode of Timeless.
Captivating cancelled series that just didn't catch on with viewers.
I like how the military was trying to get pidgeons to use a touch screen to guide torpedoes. But they're like "they probably didn't use their invention because she's a woman"
The cost of inventing a brand new untested system of frequency hopping technology was way too much. I think going with SONAR on bombs was already expensive enough.
to be fair, that wouldn’t have been out of the question for the time, even before many female inventors have had their idea/credit stolen from them.
They have this wrong. The US govt used her technology while she had the patent secretly. Then when it expired they got the patent.
Grok invented fire. Routers make warm. Routers have fire in them. Grok helped invent wifi.
Romantic story... But she did not invent wifi.
It says she helped to invent it Genius.
@@Ghoulstille that's still a huge stretch.
@@andre8272 In this case, no, because WIFI HUGELY depends on that technology and wouldn't be possible without it
@@computerdores no this is like saying the guy who discovered static is the father of the electric grid. On top of that there were many similar patents submitted around that time. Is she smart and is it a cool story yeah. It's just not realistic.
@@Ghoulstille dont try to communicate with incel. It kills your brain cells.
HOW HOW HOW is this NOT a movie ?????
Don't get it. What did she actually do? If Antile did the actual work...why does she get credit?
because she woman
The title says she "helped invent" Wi-Fi, not that she invented it by herself. That is accurate as she helped conceptualise the technology that preceded it.
It's similar to how Babbage is credited with the computer, despite never constructing his theoretical counting machine.
@@theMoporter Babbage had a whole theoretical model ready and even worked on getting the gears ready for the computing machine. What did she do ?
Biden voters made this video. 😒
@@moviemania1137 okay Putin..
You guys are really stretching here, This is so far fetched and a disservice to the actual engineers who made this possible!
That's a lightbulb moment for me..Thnk U Hedy Lamar &(don't know his name ) ... & CHEDDAR
She didn’t shut up, this discredits the people who actually made it
This is crazy dope yo.
Wait,is this the one my teacher was talking about?? such a coincidence !
Did anyone else keep thinking of Harvey Korman in Blazing Saddles while watching this? "That's Headly!"
Hedy did the race on ol boy Fritz 😂
MAID HER WAY2 PARIS!?! hehe keyuk keyuk
How exactly did those guys help exactly? And why are you dismissing the fact that several scientists like Nikola Tesla for example already had patents for this technology?
Because womanism!
This is just a propaganda clip to rewrite history and erase male inventors, while blaming non existing patriarchy and imaginary sexism. Either only HIS name was on the patent or the names of _both_ were written, meaning the military was not sexist at all. Just being right about the patent being incompatible with current day technology, instead opting for other inventions more easily achievable.
Of course there are always other similar inventions from male scientist.... but then you cannot play the only-women-invent-stuff-but-are-shut-down victim game.
That's Hedley!
Why is this achievement only looked as Lamarr's, when its George Anthiel piano technology that gives fruit to the idea? Lamarr mostly just expand it into another usage.
Was wondering the same exact thing. From everything laid out in this video I did get the impression that it was actually primarily George's invention rather than Hedy's. Even if it was 50/50 it is kinda too blatant how the creators of this video pushed the guy aside and gave 90% of the credit to the girl, showering her with praise endlessly. I get that women had a rather difficult life in many ways in the past, and in some ways still in the modern world, but taking credit away from a good man to a woman to equalize the world is just not the way to go.
Some of us here learned that from watching Timeless.
Glad to see a video about her.
The person who used to sell burgers to the person who invented Wi-Fi has helped too
Invention? Yeah it was impressive but in the heat of the largest war in history around 43’ even if it was just the guys they would have ignored funding it in favor of the Manhattan project. But yes their break through is about as impactful as the Manhattan project. I think it’s because it was pushed by people seen as a techie musician and as you said a famous actress.
This video is bs, Australia invented WiFi. What a disingenuous title
"Helped invent", not actually invented
It's headly!
This video misspells Antheil as Anthiel.
It’s Hedley!
My BT headphones often get connected to someone else's cell phone in the subway. I wonder why.
So, are we only supposed to praise her work (which I do not deny) or also George Antheil?
My point was that perhaps it should have been, it is not as though it was her work alone that made it happen
The lady sounds like a badass. She shines as a powerful diplomat. There are lot of great qualities you could project. But cheddar decided to go down the click bait path at the expense of her real success.
FHSS? Because she used a radio controlled synchronizer? Really?
She did not invent wifi
Thank you for educating us about Hedy Lamarr
🗣❤️❤️❤️ mind BLOWN👀🤯💥💥💥💥💥💥
JC Bose was the first one in the world to achieve communication with radio waves. Why is he not shown everywhere? Cos he's Indian... Duh..
Why is Hedy Lamarr not mentioned in Indian text books? Goes both ways jani. Treat your farmers right first.
It's not a story about radio communication in general, it's a story about FHSS in particular. But they're also incorrect in the title, since FHSS is not used in WiFi, but it's used in Bluetooth and related protocols such as nRF51. FHSS is the reason that Bluetooth, although lower power, absolutely bulldozes over WiFi and most other protocols, it's less interference sensitive than them and induces more interference itself.
It's also a bit weird since there are multiple inventors of FHSS and multiple patents covering it, the similarity between which probably wasn't initially discovered.
@@randomguy-ue9ee lol that seems to be the general Indian response to dealing with international criticism i.e. yes we're killing our own people but please look away
@@randomguy-ue9ee Indian streets are so dirty
@@cheegum6296 What do you know about the situation with Indian Farmers?
Japan actually declared war on us in 1941, so not all over the world
And the opening scene of a b17 dropping bombs over Europe could not have happened in 1940 ... way to ruin your video’s credibility in under a second !
The narration is 1,000x more aggressive than it needs to be.
made by the dutch
The vacuum tube technology of the time may not have made the spread spectrum
practical.
It’s a good story but if it wasn’t for Dr John O’Sullivan you would have needed an Ethernet lead to post this video lol
This sounds wrong. (Dont get me wrong, what she did is inspiring and amazing - proactively working on her goal and ethics!)
But as much as i (at least think to) know - Frequency hopping is in the simple, elegant idea, with which you can have more devices or more data transmitted.
*But it's absolutely not the "reason wifi exist"* or even a core element of it.
Wifi uses radio as a transmission medium. To ensure no other devices 'talks' into your conversation - there are several measures in place.
In short:
- Listening for others talking
- not talking for more than x time at a time
- recognizing 'collisions' in the transmission if two devices start 'talking' at the same time (like in a conversation when both parties start at the same time)
- every device on the frequency waiting a random time and hope the device with the least time to wait wont be talked over by someone else, or this step starts again.
This is something every device has to do on their own, basically behave nicely. Only then will the FCC aprove them for radio transmission.
In Germany we have several stations measuring the behavor of radio devices to confiscate misbehaving devices. Cause if you build a device to just 'talk' random noise on every frequency - not a single device will be able to transmit anything. (luckily its very, very rare - like, i can't believe how well this works!)
*To be fair:* Frequency hopping enables to have multiple channels, in which 'collisions only occur within the same channel' and thus reduce the overall collisions. Also with newer Wifi, you can also use the unused frequencies to parallel transmit data (faster wifi).
*I think the message "Someone in the past invented wifi" is a little too simplified.*
*even thought the invention was quite impressive for the little knowledge they could base their work on at the time -*
*I do respect her way more for her proactive, smart work against fashism and her do-it-myself way of life!*
This is a hard topic for me right now. Mainly because i do appreciate Cheddars work to recognize the unappreciated women in technology history.
(eg: When women where the one programming the first computers with punchcards. calculating the math for nasa to go to the moon. Where building "Core memory" by litterally knitting the electronics with copper cableing)
I want to clarify - my criticism is about the wide spread of what she supposedly enabled.
Wether this is by choice or just well-meant, it seems for me that the report is artifically inflating, what her invention means for scociety. And i think this would be the wrong way to go when trying to work against the old stigma, that women still face the after-effects of. If it's
It gives space for doubt when the people believing in the prejudis (women and tech/math/science) can look besides the truth and see what what suits them.
(Kinda like my previous comment *seems* on the 1st glance to try to disproof or disacknowledge their work)
Also i think this is not nessesary.
Because women do have their groundbreaking inventions and have changed the world. There may be less women in the past having done so - because they haven't been allowed to. But those who did, showed even more bravery and earned my respects for ehat they did even more.
I think my problem with this is the polarisation i feel in this video ... or on the internet everywhere.
The world is not black and white, it's gray.
And i feel an over-appreciation or "decoration of words" (telling more things on top of facts, which are seen as fact, but aren't) is getting the better of the internet.
It's what's spreading fake news dressed in actual facts.
I mean: You indicated that her work was banished by the millitary, likely because she was a women (which is an understandable tought), and then the tought process of how many lives could have been saved when they woudn't have beed (possiblly) sexist, without mentioning anything about the reasons why it "wasn't feasible" for the millitary. Maybe they where just sexist assholes - maybe we do them unjust.
I think it could very well be unfeasible at that time to be used in basically a sacrificial tech. Radiofrequencies have been created with analog technology and have multiple sender and receivers to switch on and off rapidly. That technology was hugely expensive, and can be nowdays recreated with around 1€ of total costs.
What do you think about what im trying to say?
I tried by best to phrase as accurately as possible, but my english isn't good enough for such fine things i want to communicate about.
I hope it has become clear what i wanted to say.
Holy shit, i thought i wrote a hugely controversal comment because it might give off the wrong message - but the others agree xD
REALLY??? I have a bachelor in technology and had no idea about this history! Incredible!
Tbh, this was not the foundation of WiFi, it is the founding of advanced detection beacons however.
It was also co developed by a man. Her being a woman had nothing to do with it. A few woman worked on the Manhattan project. I guess the Navy thought that player pianos & torpedoes don't mix.
Nikola Tesla spoke about frequency hopping in 1903 about 40 years before Heddy "invented it".
There was really nothing new about their invention other than the fact that they used paper roll playing pianos to sync the frequencies. Also the novel part of their invention was never actually used.
There also was no maid and Hedy even admitted that she did the creative work while George implemented it.
I'll call you "Limburger" because something here stinks.
8:35 Ya, Nikola Tesla wasn't even a beautiful famous woman.. but he was very famous & he they still didn't take his work on it..
He really got a lot of his ideas stolen..
coolz
Thanks heddy I'm on my wifi
🤔 Wonder what else they're using that we can't use.. "yet".
In Australia, we learn that our government science agency CSIRO invented wifi. Not sure that making a patent with no working prototype constitutes actual invention of modern wifi.
They didn't trial it because the circuitry to make it work would have required vacuum tubes, which are not the best thing to be putting in a battlefield weapon. Once discrete solid state circuitry came along, oh hey, look at that - the whole thing suddenly became classified. Funny how that happens, huh? It had nothing to do with her being a woman, most of the engineers assessing the technology probably had no idea who it even came from. Just because they didn't use something a woman invented, doesn't' automatically make it sexism.
Cheddar screws up again with it's fact. How about changing the title to "Help invent Bluetooth" for starters?
actually it was also used to help create wifi too
I loik concrete
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Wait so did the patent expire or was it not approved
Not so late
5:38 The story couldn't be further from the truth: at that time, there were no cell phones and maids in Austria had no cars, because at that time, only rich people had possessed cars. Sounds like a modern fairy tail.
they didnt mention a phone at all
No phone was mentioned
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It seems Hedy didn't actually want to do the nude scenes in ecstasy. She was forced by the director and tricked into doing so as he said they were long shots so nothing would be seen but used telephoto lenses.
Its black history month not white lady month right?
😂🤣 why am I laughing?,, shut up. 🤣😂
Because of intersectional leftwing dogma: being born with a cervix + being a jew makes it kosher to mention and elevate her above any blacks.
Wow i saw this in a show and i was sure it was just a fictional character
Timeless?
@@tudorjason yes🙂
Of course there are prejudices. There are prejudices against children too, even if a child invented something geniuous it could be easily disregarded. Women are rearly inventing something useful, that is why we don't take them seriously even when they are actually invented something useful.
Sound like another drama story lol
And don't forget Olivia de Havilland helped invent the de Havilland Comet after looking up into the night sky, seeing a streak of light, and exclaiming, "If only planes could fly that fast."
Should be a movie about her life, I feel like ive seen one but cant remember....
Well , this is a direct middle finger to others who pioneered FHSS technology.
Čuvena Hedi Lamar
She didn't I'm sorry you're stretching a lot here
She wasn't an inventory, so she didn't get credit for the invention.
Bluetooth not Wifi lol.
When they said he bought all the copied of the movie, so that nobody sees her naked, I thought - "Aww, how sweet of him". It turned not so sweet very quickly, though...
Waiiiiiiiit whatttttttty
She actually helped just a little bit.
Cheddar overhypes this topic for feminism.
Because clearly, no women can invent or create anything...
@@jopiart He said she help a little bit not a lot learn the difference.
@@theobnoxiousguy3425 Yes, he said "she helped just a little bit", as in, she didn't do much. I think you need to improve your reading comprehension.
@@jopiart omg, your overwokeness has made it’s way to CZcams comments! 😩
WE STAN HEDY LAMARR
I dont like them cause lag ruins my game sike i like them i get get annoyed at wifi
Omg she’s a women DENIED lmao okkkkkk
Wait it was he who invented everything. She just listened to her husbands conversations?
She heard her husband discuss the weakness of their torpedos. She invented a way to remove that weakness to give to the US. The husband had nothing to do it
Damn! The celebrity went from show business 2 STEM! She may be the most beautiful lady to be applauded amidst Women's History Month (March)!
She should have more revenue and awards than Arnold Schwarzenegger!
A bit strange to think the army might not have used an important technology to have an advantage over the enemy purely because she was a woman
thanks to her i can watch hentai over the air
Cuban American aggression!
The name of your channel tells me all about a stretched, cheesy story. One could tell she invented the smartphone if you twist and bend a little more.
Several women had an impressive career and helped human kind and they all should be praised for, no need to build up something so far fetched.
Why don’t you talk about about Mrs. Curie? She was an impressive woman, groundbreaking scientist that succumbed due to her work’s effects. That is a real story to tell.
A movie in the making.
Yes! A 12 minute and 55 second movie! 🙄