Genetic insights into Neanderthal society

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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2023
  • What can we learn about Neanderthal society from this huge genetic sample?
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    Source (It's open access): www.nature.com/articles/s4158...
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  • @StefanMilo
    @StefanMilo  Před 9 měsíci +55

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    • @montypythonator
      @montypythonator Před 9 měsíci +9

      First off, it's only 3:25am...

    • @mitchwood6609
      @mitchwood6609 Před 9 měsíci +1

      STEFAN, CHEESE AND RICE (jesus christ), cheese and rice my friend... YOU LIKE thinking about deep thoughts while affected by mind altering substances?!?!?!?!? GUESS WHAT? Our ancient ancestors did too also and this is exactly what has led us humans to become "human" ......... I believe monkeys got high and that is part of the key to the piece of our evolution puzzle on intelligence... what are your thoughts on this subject? Now I'm not promoting everyone go out and get high. On the contrary I'm against it... But the RIGHT person witht he RIGHT drug unlocks miracles in the mind and allows him/her to think "outside of the box''............. please reply with your thoughts and maybe do a whole video on this?

    • @jimmyjasi-
      @jimmyjasi- Před 9 měsíci +3

      Shout out to Orangután Women! I prefer Gibbons. I really hope Danubepithecus was our 5 million Gibbonlike Ancestor. Brachiation is so Romantic! Almost like flying!

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I finished watching this at 3: 49 am. And yes, I am stoned.

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 : Such minor differences often do exist between British English and American English.

  • @Finkelthusiast
    @Finkelthusiast Před 9 měsíci +2685

    As a 4 am stoner, thanks for the bedtime story Dad.

    • @tannerdenny5430
      @tannerdenny5430 Před 9 měsíci +81

      Late night trips to Mars are my favorite

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      @noahsabin7386 Před 9 měsíci

      Stoners dream of the stone age. Their reasons are their own.

    • @sarcastaball
      @sarcastaball Před 9 měsíci +89

      Right on, and likewise, mate. I'm hitting the hay connecting with my ape-like ancestors right now. This one guy, he says his name is Mok or something, says hello, I think, idk.

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      @InsertHandleHere968 Před 9 měsíci +23

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    • @noobnaab4647
      @noobnaab4647 Před 9 měsíci +30

      Lighting it up, right now! Cheers 🦊.. Many thanks mister Millo!

  • @amandavandenberg9258
    @amandavandenberg9258 Před 9 měsíci +548

    As both a stoner and an archeology nerd I thank you doubly for all you do!

    • @jayarava
      @jayarava Před 9 měsíci +18

      Isn't stoner just another name for an archaeology nerd? 🤣

    • @stewartglass
      @stewartglass Před 9 měsíci +26

      no. one is an aged stoner, the other is a stone ager
      @@jayarava

    • @brycetsawyer
      @brycetsawyer Před 9 měsíci +8

      I too am an archeological nerd who is stoned watching this at 4:09 am

    • @dusk_en
      @dusk_en Před 9 měsíci +5

      same here

    • @victoriajones1575
      @victoriajones1575 Před 9 měsíci +7

      My peoples!!

  • @rosemadder5547
    @rosemadder5547 Před 9 měsíci +207

    When this guest says "I'm glad you asked", I've never heard anyone say it and mean it so much 😂 Dude was soooo happy you asked ☺ I love hearing people that get to work in a field they are passionate about.

    • @BeWellReneeLittlebird
      @BeWellReneeLittlebird Před 9 měsíci +13

      Absolutely that there is the stuff of a life well lived🎉

    • @khem127
      @khem127 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @ellenlewis9860 But the girls werent busy with the denisovans, only the Neanderthal boys, but you could be right it could've been bride kidnapping by the Neanderthal boys.

    • @schmitzkatzewupper
      @schmitzkatzewupper Před 7 měsíci

      Well said

  • @noobnaab4647
    @noobnaab4647 Před 9 měsíci +18

    I live all my life in the Iberian Peninsula, and since i am a child i always got fascinated by neanderthal man.
    My father would bring me to a rock cliff sharp into the high sea to go swim and spear fish in a cave that would flood in the high tide, i remember crying before entering due to the noise of the waves and the dark cave, once inside, my old man sit me down and showed to me a place with a old fire and the deepest part of the cave is shutdown with metal bars, its written there that neanderthal man lived there, so as a child i thought they was the most brave humans ever "how could someone live in a cave and not be scared with the sea and water flooding"..... Only afther as a adult and thanks to awesome peopl like you mister Millo that i understand the geo changes and etc... Never stop... Many thanks...

    • @Jabranalibabry
      @Jabranalibabry Před 9 měsíci +3

      That's awesome, your dad gave you the love for our hominin cousin

  • @thelostone6981
    @thelostone6981 Před 9 měsíci +392

    “No daughter of mine is going to marry a Denisovian.”
    “But I love him dad. Ugh, you truly are a Neanderthal…”
    Jokes aside, I hope someday we can collect enough data to better understand these relationships because this is absolutely fascinating.

    • @rashmibhargav1343
      @rashmibhargav1343 Před 9 měsíci +27

      And after thousands of year later, here we r...
      The hybrids.
      The boys.
      The bastards.

    • @magnipettersson4432
      @magnipettersson4432 Před 9 měsíci +9

      ​@@rashmibhargav1343we dem Bois *proceeds to be slanky and stamina based*

    • @grovermartin6874
      @grovermartin6874 Před 9 měsíci +6

      But it was the women who moved. What was that about?

    • @Yarn_368
      @Yarn_368 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@grovermartin6874they may have been forced by the males or traded

    • @eric2500
      @eric2500 Před 9 měsíci +16

      @@grovermartin6874 patrilocal culture?

  • @Okijuben
    @Okijuben Před 9 měsíci +271

    It is so cool to think about the interplay and lives of these women who are related but lived in these caves that are 75km away from each other. You rock, Stefan!

    • @briancavanagh7048
      @briancavanagh7048 Před 9 měsíci

      Interesting to think about what happened so many years ago. Where the females taken as slaves in battle? Or did the cave dwellers meet seasonally or even less occasionally to trade females? Probably but not necessarily a Romeo & Juliet story.

    • @Kaczyfunny
      @Kaczyfunny Před 9 měsíci +3

      They surley cant think about eachother too much bad if they sent their faughters to the others that much... or is this an ancient R&J story?

    • @margo3367
      @margo3367 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@KaczyfunnyAnd if the women are moving around, possibly to mate and raise families of their own, that precludes inbreeding/incest.

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux Před 9 měsíci +6

      75 km is really not that far on foot or by water. On the camino, a tough walk, 20 km per day is normal. But it is problematic for grandmothering.

    • @iamblackthorne
      @iamblackthorne Před 9 měsíci +9

      They could have been stolen.

  • @OVREZ
    @OVREZ Před 9 měsíci +24

    I was unsure what to do in school, i took a bio anthro class, became super interested and saw this channel…snowball effect happened and now im majoring in anthropology

  • @toryfoster3300
    @toryfoster3300 Před 9 měsíci +74

    Not a stoner but i do love these videos when I’m chilling out at night and it is 3:45 am for me right now. Love your work, art, and curiosity, Stefan!

    • @margo3367
      @margo3367 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Stoners aren’t up at 4 am. They can’t stay awake that long. 😎✌️

  • @Akkesama
    @Akkesama Před 9 měsíci +142

    I really love that you include original artwork. Shows the amount of care and collaboration that goes into this channel.

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      @MeganVictoriaKearns Před 9 měsíci +9

      Yes! Agreed! 👍 💯

    • @sharonhobbs4144
      @sharonhobbs4144 Před 9 měsíci

      So long as we credit the artist

    • @DavideDF
      @DavideDF Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@sharonhobbs4144he credits the artist in the outro. The artist is Ettore Mazza.

  • @jamieharford1008
    @jamieharford1008 Před 9 měsíci +25

    I'm high, it's 2.21am but I certainly didn't stumble here by chance. You are the man, thanks for another great video.

  • @AmericanShia786
    @AmericanShia786 Před 9 měsíci +39

    Your videos are great to watch at any time or day!
    At age 63, I can't believe how much we have learned about ancient humans since I was first getting into science in grade school. It is the same with astronomy. Yes, I was one of those nerdy kids who loved science, then Jazz and reading Science Fiction.
    Your channel keeps me up to date with recent archaeological discoveries. I also watch a Dutch woman's channel. Anton Petrov has a great science channel as well.

  • @andrewscoppetta4944
    @andrewscoppetta4944 Před 9 měsíci +26

    Stefan, do you remember the match we had at Wimbledon? That was a banger for sure. Your match point ace was unreal. If only I could have returned that serve, that ball boy would still have his right hand. Don’t blame yourself, he never should have tried to catch it on the bounce. It’s not your fault. Paying for his medical bills with your winnings was a super classy move though. ‘97 was one hell of a year!

  • @michaelfleming4015
    @michaelfleming4015 Před 9 měsíci +149

    Amazing that so many Neanderthal individuals from the same cave have been found. And this is after excavating only 1/3 of the cave. The relationships between the individuals and how they relate to other populations are just fascinating and invaluable!

    • @anyascelticcreations
      @anyascelticcreations Před 9 měsíci +2

      Here's a thought. Maybe they lived in 1 or 2 of the caves and buried their dead in the other.

    • @user-lb8bg6kj9m
      @user-lb8bg6kj9m Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@anyascelticcreations
      More like the cave collapsed on them while they were sleeping.

    • @anyascelticcreations
      @anyascelticcreations Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@user-lb8bg6kj9m Hmm. Now I'm curious. I was thinking they said that the skeletons looked like they were intact at the time of death. But I could easily be remembering that from a different video. If the skeletons looked crushed at the time of death I'd say you were probably right. But I would think the archeologists would have come to that conclusion if they were crushed. Because it is a good thought.

    • @user-lb8bg6kj9m
      @user-lb8bg6kj9m Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@anyascelticcreations
      Not like that.
      The cave entrance collapsed sealing them all in.

    • @johnvidal70
      @johnvidal70 Před měsícem

      Maybe Denisovans lived in these cave and they were eating Neanderthals.

  • @kevinberrien745
    @kevinberrien745 Před 9 měsíci +112

    Always enjoy your content! I really enjoy coverage of contemporary research and interviews of the actual researchers too!

    • @CookaSoupNieceEH
      @CookaSoupNieceEH Před 9 měsíci +3

      Dear Mr. Milo I understand that my suggestion is controversial and not CZcams friendly. Nevertheless there is evidence that early hominids did things that we consider now as repulsive, e.g. eating and butchering other hominids.
      This is why it got me thinking, when in our evolution did we "stop" engaging in non-consent sex and transition into consensual sex? Is ancient Greek Greco-Roman wrestling circumstantial evidence of how a early hominid like Ardi engaged in non-consent sex? Is the concept of sports/olympics derived from our evolutionary transition from non-consent sex to consensual sex and is there any correlation?
      Did Lucy's mother stand on a hypothetical highway bent over hoping that primates get her first before the lions? Or was she dragged against her will to the trees by a passing male? Or was it something completely different? I understand that people may feel uncomfortable by these questions, but I'm not the architect of primate behavior. It is what it is.

    • @Katie-ry4lj
      @Katie-ry4lj Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yes! I appreciate this so much.

  • @local3433
    @local3433 Před 9 měsíci +27

    Very much enjoy your skill to contextualise things further for us beyond the scientific articles findings and your interviews. Thanks for the storytelling.

  • @glennhoetker2721
    @glennhoetker2721 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Great to see what a talented interviewer you’ve become, Stefan. Thanks for helping bring us all this knowledge.

    • @josephinetracy1485
      @josephinetracy1485 Před 6 měsíci

      I don't understand his glorifying of the mixing, which has been proven to be the cause of genetic problems, as "beautiful families." Sexual fantasies should remain OUT of scientific study.

  • @masterlinguini
    @masterlinguini Před 9 měsíci +92

    i really just love this channel it is such good quality and you're such a great host! i love the way the video progresses to make us ask questions the same way you did. What a great interview too - such a great video Stefan!

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious11 Před 9 měsíci +11

    100 degrees here in Oregon. I wet myself down and am in the hammock in the shade ready to listen to this!

    • @johntillman6068
      @johntillman6068 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'm in the second hottest place in Oregon, but in my cool, dark basement.

  • @nilkilnilkil
    @nilkilnilkil Před 9 měsíci +6

    I like your aesthetic sense as well as your depth of coverage, stef. So, thanks for doing that for me specifically.

  • @joemanco-no4jy
    @joemanco-no4jy Před 9 měsíci +4

    Great work Stefan. It is nice to have someone who knows something to start with put this new information together, contextualize it, and ask good questions of the author of this new paper. OK, go ahead and wake me up at 4:00 AM when you get something else like this.

  • @user-qt3br1wq2f
    @user-qt3br1wq2f Před 9 měsíci +13

    Jokes on you Stefan! It’s not 4am but I am stoned to the bone, and a huge archeology nerd! It’s like you knew I just put down the bong!

  • @Alasdair37448
    @Alasdair37448 Před 9 měsíci +24

    "Being eaten by hyenas is a certifiable bummer" - Stefan Milo. Legendary .

  • @kertpilman
    @kertpilman Před 9 měsíci +21

    Thanks Stefan. Stoners like me have been watching you for years taking us deep into this story of our own past, keeping the imagination wandering on these different times... And the chance of it all leading up to the current time and our existence is just mind boggling.

  • @jkratzok
    @jkratzok Před 9 měsíci +3

    Stefan, I just have to say - I love your videos! You explain things so we’ll and keep it light but very informative and interesting! Thank you!

  • @Cat-tastrophee
    @Cat-tastrophee Před 9 měsíci +7

    The editing here was top notch! Really enjoyed this video. Thanks Mr. Milo and Dr. Skov!

  • @Katie-ry4lj
    @Katie-ry4lj Před 9 měsíci +7

    Heck yeah! I can’t wait to watch this tonight!!! I always get excited when a new Stefan Milo video drops!! ❤

  • @francoislancon798
    @francoislancon798 Před 9 měsíci +3

    That was a real breakthrough find and study. Thank you to bring it out in this funny yet professional manner.

  • @harrisonandrew
    @harrisonandrew Před 9 měsíci +6

    Stefan, I found that video absolutely fascinating. I cant tell you how much I enjoyed it. Thank you.

  • @teresamerkel7161
    @teresamerkel7161 Před 9 měsíci +19

    thank you for your hard work to bring such facinating information forward.

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl Před 9 měsíci +19

    I've been waiting for this! You're so good at these kinds of videos, Stefan! Sitting back to soak it all in, now.
    On an unrelated (but very important) note, please, please take time to tell your loved ones you love them EVERY chance you get. Tomorrow is not a given; you're never promised the next sunrise.
    ~ ~ ~ ~
    "And don't let it break your heart. I know it feels hopeless sometimes. But they're never really gone as long as there's a memory in your mind." _Hold On To Memories_ Dave Draiman, Disturbed
    💔💔
    07 Jan 1984 - 02 Aug 2023
    Rest in Peace, Matthew. Momma will miss you every day of my life! 😢

  • @uncletoad1779
    @uncletoad1779 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Such a fascinating content, such a first-rate presentation. Thanks again, Stefan! The quality of your channel is outstanding.

  • @jorgedawsonwetto25
    @jorgedawsonwetto25 Před 9 měsíci +3

    im a 24/7 stoner..but im also huge into history and pre history and your videos are awesome! very updated sources and good editing and always something new! congrats dude! 🎉

  • @larryparis925
    @larryparis925 Před 9 měsíci +24

    This is a great, information-packed episode. So much to learn. Many thanks, Stefan.

    • @KernowekTim
      @KernowekTim Před 7 měsíci

      Q: What is the definition of a Neanderthal virgin? A: A girl who can out-run her brothers.

  • @gullyfoyle2615
    @gullyfoyle2615 Před 9 měsíci +18

    My favourite Natural history Channel strikes again! Great work Stefan.

  • @osmarmacrob
    @osmarmacrob Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thank you! It's always amazing to see that the more me find out, the more find out how little we know. Every new piece of research just adds to the complexity of the puzzle.

  • @poorplayer9249
    @poorplayer9249 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Every answer poses more questions. Not frustrating...much, but the best kind of science discovery quest. I'm with you on this Stephan. It's more fascinating, and motivating, that anything else, really. Great video!

  • @DonnyDustsPaleoTracks
    @DonnyDustsPaleoTracks Před 9 měsíci +17

    Awesome video! Thanks amigo!

  • @x-ratedalien
    @x-ratedalien Před 9 měsíci +9

    Amazing work! Found your youtube recently and binged the hell out of it. The comment about how a family tree really humanizes their lives, and the reason why hyena dna would be entangled were so great!

  • @lightbeingform
    @lightbeingform Před 9 měsíci +2

    Right when I am in the middle of reading Angela Saini's new book! I am wowed by your relevance always, seeing how you talk about ancient stuff. Way to go! Keep following your passions, we are here for it.
    Hooray for a busy wife, but busy kids? I am imagining toddlers innlittle power outfits with briefcases babbling on bluetooth earpieces

  • @vladtheimpala5532
    @vladtheimpala5532 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I appreciate that you use stock footage that is as accurate as possible, and that you tell us when it’s different. Some channels don’t bother with that which can be annoying and potentially deceptive.

  • @jenseklof2653
    @jenseklof2653 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Thank you for helping us stay on top of what’s happening in academia on this topic. Love your videos.

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz Před 9 měsíci +56

    There is also the seldom studied X-chromosome lineage (non-recombinable segment). From memory now (if someone is interested, I can document further) there seems to be one such X-DNA lineage from Neanderthals and (IMO) it is the same that was previously found to be most divergent from the others and found most concentrated in some specific populations such as Basques, Gujaratis or Native Americans. It was labeled B006.
    X-DNA lineages can come from either side, let's not assume it is matrilineal just because women have two X chromosomes and men inherit our X-chr from our mums (but the non-recombinable segment can be from her mum or her dad). In fact, in a study in coastal Colombia, X-DNA documented the repeated arrival of waves of European male settlers, unlike mtDNA, which was fundamentally aboriginal and documented that almost no female settlers arrived instead.

    • @molloblin
      @molloblin Před 9 měsíci +4

      Certainly seems like an interesting way to parse between purely matrilineal and patrilineal inheritance and ease out patterns over pairs of generations (grandfather to grandchild). Good stuff

    • @ambergilbeyjustin7774
      @ambergilbeyjustin7774 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'd watch

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 9 měsíci

      Just for the record, I mentioned this issue of X-DNA haplotype B006 being possibly of Neanderthal origin in my old blog: forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2011/01/is-x-dna-lineage-neanderthal.html

  • @whitesun264
    @whitesun264 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks for interpreting and relaying in an understandable way; I also liked your analysis and the questions which it raised for you.

  • @Miriboheme
    @Miriboheme Před 9 měsíci +3

    excellent video, once again. thank you! i actually got a little tear in my eye when you revealed that there was a genetic connection between those two communities. it's not often we get such a glimpse into prehistory. beautiful.

  • @Orcrez
    @Orcrez Před 9 měsíci +26

    This made my Tuesday!!! Always interesting and amazing work!

  • @billxx188
    @billxx188 Před 9 měsíci +6

    It's 4 am somewhere. Your videos are the perfect set and setting for entertainment and education.

  • @Ptaku93
    @Ptaku93 Před 9 měsíci +19

    the image of a neanderthal man and his daughter 60,000 years ago and on another continent, speaking an unknown language, whose lives are otherwise absolutely lost to history, yet who shared love between one another and had their little moments and nicknames like all parents and children do nowadays, just had me tear up, ngl

    • @darko714
      @darko714 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I have no problem imagining this. The words they spoke were likely precursors of the ones we use today, and their love was universal and timeless. It's okay to anthropomorphize them, because they were people.

    • @Cobalt1520
      @Cobalt1520 Před 8 měsíci

      @@darko714no they weren’t. They weren’t our ancestors, and weren’t able of complex speech, they had the speech of a 2 year old human child. They were a different species, which emerged 300 000 years before us. So when we emerged they were already here since 300th years, so they could not be the same species. They were hominid, not humans.

    • @darko714
      @darko714 Před 8 měsíci

      There's evidence that anatomically modern humans evolved more than 300,000 years ago (at least if the dating of remains found at Jebel Irhoud in Morocco is accurate). There's also evidence that their Neanderthal and Denisovan cousins, while anatomically distinct, were able to and did breed with the humans, which strongly suggests that they were not a separate species at all. However, perhaps I went a bit far in speculating that their language had evolved to a fairly advanced state. @@Cobalt1520

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It’s not known whether Neanderthals possessed the language faculty, but it’s thought probably not from what’s known of linguistics.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 7 měsíci

      They literally have Valuev & Treshkova in russian Duma, and judging by these Neanderthals, they were not capable of human emotions or thought.

  • @Pixxelshim
    @Pixxelshim Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wonderful discussion, presentation and artwork! Thanks again.

  • @EB-qi3mx
    @EB-qi3mx Před 9 měsíci +8

    Loved it - thank you so much for this Stefan!

  • @StephMcAlea
    @StephMcAlea Před 9 měsíci +3

    I love Stefan's ad reads! Always genuine and funny!

  • @Erinselysion
    @Erinselysion Před 9 měsíci +18

    It's just so cool that we can learn all of these details from ancient bones, DNA is such an interesting form of science

  • @tyronefrielinghaus3467
    @tyronefrielinghaus3467 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is great : thanks so much for taking the effort. I truly appreiate it. Great production values too

  • @rockinbobokkin7831
    @rockinbobokkin7831 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Quality content as usual! Thanks Milo

  • @melissab8500
    @melissab8500 Před 9 měsíci +8

    This is great! Thank you so much for taking the time to decipher the data for us. You really made it come alive. Sounds like the Denisovan's women didn't wander lol, I hope there are updates in the future

  • @russellbarndt6579
    @russellbarndt6579 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Having the benefit of your interest to share this amazing discovery and others but your questions most particular that bring so much detail to this subject tjen how you introduce it then bring out the meaning, I will always have appreciation to be able to expand my understanding....

  • @matthewdrum2961
    @matthewdrum2961 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Love lots of your videos Stefan, but this was one of the most interesting yet!

  • @stevenbalderstone709
    @stevenbalderstone709 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Quite amazing! You are a great science communicator, keep it up.

  • @Dave-bt8pm
    @Dave-bt8pm Před 9 měsíci +11

    Love your work! Cheers!

  • @charlieculp3956
    @charlieculp3956 Před 9 měsíci

    Helluva delivery there, buddy! My attention was captured by this info

  • @hom3chuk
    @hom3chuk Před 9 měsíci +2

    Love your videos, good stuff as always. Awesome production, awesome story, brilliant way of humanizing someone so far away in time from us. Also, mic fork is missing in the new setup?

  • @Edengar86
    @Edengar86 Před 9 měsíci +10

    I really like what you do on this channel, like, you explain complex stuff really well at a level I'm able to understand ...I'm super curious to learn about ancient humans, how they lived, what did they feel, how did they think etc, but I'm not a genius, I can't understand like, scientific papers lol ^^;; so thanks, really cool video, it's really interresting to think about neandertal women moving around in between groups!

  • @pzuliomaccavellion9711
    @pzuliomaccavellion9711 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Awesome video, as usual. Cheers

  • @CristinaAshley8
    @CristinaAshley8 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just got back onto the whole pre-history wagon the last week and a half and I've learned so much.
    It's amazing, these pre-people existed. They had some sort of dynamic, definitely understood that they needed to be near each other to survive, and left an imprint that we today are still trying to understand.
    It's amazing, I don't think I'll ever get tired of learning more about our beginning.

  • @peterpayne2219
    @peterpayne2219 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love your videos, Stefan! You have a fan in rural Japan! I often watch (listen to) your videos through AirPods while sitting in Japanese hot springs/public baths.

  • @GneasYTC
    @GneasYTC Před 9 měsíci +53

    You earned a subscription for accurately guessing that I am watching at 4AM. 🤣Alas, not high though. 😵‍💫
    I really like your style, Stefan - very casual and conversational, but still managing to get the hard data across, with no sense of dumbing it down.
    I guess like most others who watch your vids, I'm fascinated by the story of human origins.
    It's become very clear in the last few decades that the old 'branching tree' model that I learned back in the 70s/80s is seriously flawed.
    Instead there has been a lot of crossover and reintegration between the branches.
    I wonder if it's becoming a bit inaccurate to think of Neanderthals/Denisovans/'Modern humans'/others as being different 'species'?
    Perhaps it would be more correct to think of us as subspecies of some overarching whole?
    I mean, we kept shagging each other throughout our evolution, apparently whenever we got a chance. Maybe we should be known collectively as the Horny Apes?
    As I said, not high but definitely tired, so probably writing nonsense at this stage. 😎
    Again: really interesting stuff, thanks for taking the time to share with us.

    • @Alarix246
      @Alarix246 Před 9 měsíci +5

      It wouldn't be possible to get to Homo sapiens without the horrible regular cataclysms which wiped the slate clean from time to time.

    • @gawkthimm6030
      @gawkthimm6030 Před 9 měsíci +6

      you are completly right in that its "inaccurate to think of Neanderthals/Denisovans/'Modern humans'/others as being different 'species" - since the word species usually means not being able to interbreed, which is why you wont hear Stefan say the word species, he just calls them all humans, homonids or archaic humans

    • @BenSmith-jw8zy
      @BenSmith-jw8zy Před 7 měsíci

      Sapiens is the globalist word for AI connected to tech. @@gawkthimm6030

  • @justdavedoindavestuff3479
    @justdavedoindavestuff3479 Před 9 měsíci +17

    I'm both in archaeology nerd, and high (and drunk). But it's not 4 a.m. how do I fit into your demographic? Love yer channel.

    • @wrp3621
      @wrp3621 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Need to change your clock .

  • @lawrence5117
    @lawrence5117 Před 9 měsíci +3

    A fascinating topic very well presented. Thanks Stefan. I've downloaded the paper in the hope my poor brain will be able to follow some of it.

  • @jameswithers2334
    @jameswithers2334 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I think that the sample size could be relatively small. There could very well be other sites in the region with individuals possessing different mixtures of inherited material. Or the other sites of habitation may not have survived at all, which seems likely.

    • @SupahTrunks7
      @SupahTrunks7 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yeah my initial assumption is either that the cave closer to the denisovan cave (which they had a hard time getting sample results from) May yield some individuals with denisovan dna, or that denisovan women were more like orangutans than chimps and did not have the same female dispersal that Neanderthals did, leading to Neanderthal dna entering their community but denisovan dna staying put

    • @jessicaj2990
      @jessicaj2990 Před měsícem

      @@SupahTrunks7 yea even among human populations it's dependant on culture wether males or females are the ones to disperse. chimpanzees and bonobos are closely related, yet chimps have female dispersal and bonobos have male dispersal. just makes sense it would vary between homo species or even just different cultural groups within the same species.

  • @fiveandfour
    @fiveandfour Před 9 měsíci +3

    I don’t know why, but the total population sizes of Neanderthal and other prehistoric human types had never occurred to me before as a significant factor in the genetic successes and failures of the different branches of our ancestors. The rapid changes to the genome that takes an individual away from the genetic ideal of its species within something like a couple of generations of inbreeding could explain so much 🤯. Thanks for facilitating this discussion.

  • @johntomasini3916
    @johntomasini3916 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Always enjoy your video's Stefan, education never stops. My interest comes from an Australian indigenous friend who's history can now be traced back 75,000 years, I'm always looking for those ancient connections.

  • @alayneperrott9693
    @alayneperrott9693 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Really interesting and throws up lots of new questions. Thanks. ❤

  • @JHaven-lg7lj
    @JHaven-lg7lj Před 8 měsíci

    Brilliant and fascinating, as always. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @Potkanka
    @Potkanka Před 9 měsíci +6

    It's interesting and yes, the father-daughter connectino definitely makes thme seem more... real, I guess? More familiar. I hope we'll eventually learn more about their family structures, possibly some traditions etc.

  • @jeffkzhj9477
    @jeffkzhj9477 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great content! Keep up the good work ❤😎

  • @gabrivalen5435
    @gabrivalen5435 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love your videos Stefan! Super interesting as always.
    I'm also a 4am stoner watching.

  • @sidnl
    @sidnl Před 9 měsíci +3

    Fascinating discussion as always, Stefan, and the production quality of your videos only gets better each time! Does the genetic data you illustrated beginning @18:35 also suggest that only male Neanderthal-Sapiens hybrids were fertile?

    • @MeganVictoriaKearns
      @MeganVictoriaKearns Před 9 měsíci

      I don't think he's saying that. Not 100% certain, though. But no, I don't get that from what he's showing as a family tree example.

  • @ryanmillichap8327
    @ryanmillichap8327 Před 9 měsíci +3

    What service did you use for your own DNA analysis @Stefan? I want to do this myself as well

  • @annepoitrineau5650
    @annepoitrineau5650 Před 9 měsíci

    I like the fact that the channels I have subscribed to advertise sponsors which I am happy with (whether I would/can use their products or not). No ethical conflict!

  • @FannyShmellar
    @FannyShmellar Před 9 měsíci

    Such a class channel, people like you make me proud to be English. Keep it up. Im a big football fan and my team got battered today so it’s nice to watch really interesting stuff like this to take the mind off it. Legend 👍

  • @Mr3DBob
    @Mr3DBob Před 9 měsíci +4

    Well, it's really only 3:39, but you guessed it pretty close. Fascinating stuff - genealogical reality. I'm a 3.6% Neand, and I miss my Denisovan sweetheart from eons ago. This is as romantic as an Omeleto short film.

  • @rebeccasford
    @rebeccasford Před 9 měsíci +7

    That's really amazing. It would make sense that they were depositing their dead there. And if they lived somewhere else nearby, there might be evidence of that. I can't wait for more research to be done.

  • @LuxisAlukard
    @LuxisAlukard Před 9 měsíci

    Such a great video!
    And I'm grateful for subtitles, they help a lot! =)
    P.S. I came here from watching Super Mario video, so that first scene was mindblowing!!

  • @profmatt505
    @profmatt505 Před 9 měsíci +1

    As a stoner from the same uni who has recently left a pretty good career to follow my true passion I have so much respect for someone who in the archeology community, which let's be real is tragically an underpaid area, has put the work into making something out of their passion. It's truly inspiring! Keep up the work Stefan!

  • @readmycomment3157
    @readmycomment3157 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Incredible video. I don't understand people who don't find this fascinating, my imagination goes wild hearing about the lives of these individuals from so long ago

  • @spao9411
    @spao9411 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Its always so fun to watch your videos and just ponder what life looked like thousands of years ago. What did they think about life? Wonder if future humans think about our lives the way we think about our ancestors lives

    • @MeganVictoriaKearns
      @MeganVictoriaKearns Před 9 měsíci +1

      I ask myself those exact questions all the time. I've been contemplating those same things as far back as age 7/8. Unfortunately, anytime I bring up these ideas, which to me are fascinating questions to ponder, I get weird looks 99% of the time. Always nice to stumble upon a kindred spirit! ❤

  • @SaszaDerRoyt
    @SaszaDerRoyt Před 9 měsíci +1

    As someone coming from the more cultural and artistic side of archaeology, I love to see the incredible insight aDNA work can give us into the social structures of Neanderthals

  • @hotncoldez
    @hotncoldez Před 9 měsíci

    Big fan of your channel Stefan! Thank you for making accessible videos that allow sci-curious folk like me to dive into an otherwise mysterious field of research.

  • @pcatful
    @pcatful Před 9 měsíci +30

    I studied genetics in college in the 70's. It has gone so far, but some of the terms and concepts are the same. I didn't pursue the field so I don't follow much of this so well. Fact is we are part Neanderthal. It could actually be one of our best parts, who knows? Given that we both share so great a part of our DNA with Chimpanzees, we're getting down to fine distinctions here.

    • @analyticalmindset
      @analyticalmindset Před 9 měsíci

      Correction a portion of our population share DNA with neanderthals. Africans don't share that DNA from what Stefan has said

  • @fukpoeslaw3613
    @fukpoeslaw3613 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Oh yes, Milo dominating the tennis scene, what days they were, we thought they'd never end!

    • @slwrabbits
      @slwrabbits Před 9 měsíci

      When I was that age, or maybe a bit younger, we made me stop playing tennis because I kept hitting myself in the head with the racket.

    • @fukpoeslaw3613
      @fukpoeslaw3613 Před 9 měsíci

      @@slwrabbits 😄, everybody has their own unique talent!

  • @abcde1054
    @abcde1054 Před 8 měsíci

    What a cool channel. Never thought i would find this kind of stuff interresting but do thanks to Stefan.

  • @MattttG3
    @MattttG3 Před 9 měsíci

    20:40 you are very appreciated for doing so. I always love your videos

  • @stormevans6897
    @stormevans6897 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I would love to somehow meet and learn about these long gone people, they're so fascinating.. I'd love to know more about their culture, about the things we could never figure out from just looking at bones.

    • @MeganVictoriaKearns
      @MeganVictoriaKearns Před 9 měsíci +1

      I've always been more interested in the day-to-day lives and cultural beliefs of extinct hominids, much more than the "big picture" kinds of information that tends to be all that can be verified when we only have bones to deal with. A scarce amount of bones, too.

  • @marthanewsome6375
    @marthanewsome6375 Před 9 měsíci +4

    To think 50 to 60 thousands years ago humans got to Australia and that native Australians have a really good amount of Denisovan DNA too.

  • @theviper1999uk
    @theviper1999uk Před 9 měsíci

    Puzzling and incredible glimpse into the past. Thank you Stefan

  • @ma7hatter
    @ma7hatter Před 9 měsíci

    Great work as always!

  • @HandyMan657
    @HandyMan657 Před 9 měsíci +4

    And to think people have this crazy idea the planet's only 6k years old, so silly. Amazing information man, thank you.

    • @sandorrabe5745
      @sandorrabe5745 Před 9 měsíci

      What made you believe it's older than that? Neanderthal DNA ... the fact that we can still sequence it with enough precision to make any conclusion about the connection between "homo sapiens" and "neanderthal man" points to a much younger age of the specimen than is suggested. When I look at these skulls, I see the remains of human beings. We all descend from Noah and his sons and daughters-in-law, and ultimately from Adam and Eve. Don't be fooled by the "wise scientists" with their "millions of years" that they need to explain God away. Repent and read the Bible.

    • @BenSmith-jw8zy
      @BenSmith-jw8zy Před 7 měsíci

      Ever notice the Bible also says "He changes times and seasons"? Gods time is eternal, so yes the 6000 club is dumb, just adding numbers but not giving God absolute power over time? What is longer than everlasting to everlasting?

    • @sandorrabe5745
      @sandorrabe5745 Před 7 měsíci

      @@BenSmith-jw8zy "we" take the 6000 years from reading God's word in a natural way. Yes God is outside time, but in His word, He tells us He made day and night and the lights in the sky and the seasons for us, so that we have regularity and predictability and can be productive (genesis 1 and 2). He did manipulate time (or rather, the movement of earth and all other celestial bodies) after creation week at some moments as a sign/miracle. But the general rule is that everything is stable and predictable, like all the natural laws that He made. If you read the bible it's all quite clear really.

    • @BenSmith-jw8zy
      @BenSmith-jw8zy Před 6 měsíci

      Time is NOT. 1000 years is a day and a day is as a 1000 years, the 70 weeks of daniel means 490+ years? Im not arguing the prophecies are spot on sometimes, and we definitely have the technology for a mark of the beast now, which even 40 years ago seemed crazy, but I think units of time in the Bible are far different than what we observe now, because things like a nation being destoryed in an "hour" ive heard pastors say that means a day and others say its literal. Its very hard to draw absolutes from text as everyone is going to have a slightly different interpretation of what they read, which i guess is good as long as it doesnt cause strife hate and division. the main message of loving others as long as its possible is the most important thing, and trying to live with a clean conscience, which ive had to "reset" quite a few times as it is difficult to truly live as morally as the Bible asks us to. Of course, thats my opinion lol@@sandorrabe5745

  • @wabisabi6875
    @wabisabi6875 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thanks, Stefan, for bringing this very complex analysis to a broader public. Can it be confirmed whether these caves were actually inhabited? or just deposit areas for remains? And, if the latter, deposited by others of their species, or predators/scavengers?

  • @scottinWV
    @scottinWV Před 9 měsíci +1

    I don't know why this channel doesn't have over a million subscribers.

  • @dellseasandoval8187
    @dellseasandoval8187 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I absolutely love your channel. You have a great personality.