Nemesis reacts to Upset joining Vitality
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now neon is the 4th best adc on his team
This comment made my day
damn that's brutal but i can't disagree lmao
Fifth; the coach of Vitality is Hjarnan
Poor Neon lmao
cant agree at all, only Upset is better right now, though its kinda sad, I dont think Neon is an issue, I feel Kaiser was the worst part of Vitality roster
Ok if vit doesnt get to finals this time, the org is just cursed for superteams🤣🤣
Perkz is just, overrated, the problem. He is luckly, he has bo and photon in topside.
@@aotisgoat4343 kinda true
@@aotisgoat4343 i mean this roaster still looks absolutely nuts on paper though. Perkz being overrated doesnt mean he is suddenly bad. He is still at least top 4 in the league. Just not top 2 like he used to be.
Man, upset was in final only once and it was in S04 since then he joined 3/4 super teams and in each and every case it was disappointment :D
@@aotisgoat4343His swap back to mid never made sense to me, why would you give up being a potential world champion adc, back to a role you're far inferior on
finally Perkz and Upset are playing together. Iirc they wanted to play together for years now.
I mean to remember that Perkz though that Upset would be the best swap in for him when he left way back already at the end of 2020/ start of 2021 when he left G2
I really like neon, shame he wasn't able to perform. Hopes he finds another team and plays better there. But with upset as his replacement, I am looking forward to vit vs g2 bo5.
kaiser still needs to step up
@@charlesdarwin2976 I think an important problem in the botlane was just the two of them combined. I think kaiser will play way better with Upset instead of Neon.
@@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719 its not, kaiser still a problem unless upset hold his leash.
@@hsenpai9370 none of us will know for sure, let's just see. If he performs or not.
I feel bad when I remember neon tweeting that he loved his team and the vit Twitter says they love him back then they bench him after 1 very short split
of course it's sad but in the end its a business and bot was holding VIT back a lot of the games
He was the 3rd best adc in his team. He sure is solid but just not enough
@@johnkirk1772 I mean I won't blame them for getting upset because he's too good to pass the opportunity to get him
But I still get the idea that maybe if they stuck with neon a bit more they could've done good because VIT is notorious for having shit adcs that leave and then be top adcs in other teams
You got crownie you got COMP you got recently carzzy they've all succeeded as soon as they left vitality so I would say maybe there is a problem in the Org itself
he loved his team and they loved him, but unfortunately he was gapped and Vitality wants to go places
@@tutku2038 botside was a big weakness for vitality game play wise and draft wise, the decision is completely understandable, they want to win lec after all
VIT are being the Chelsea of LEC
More like trying to be PSG
@@alessandroita96 PSG fits them so much, invest so much in your 3 star players, but the rest of your team is pretty average
don't do them dirty like that
@@alessandroita96fighting for being super team its casual in Asia when someone shows up best teams buy them . Better take rookie like yikes who is bad af and rest rooster loose all year flackintrash example
@@patrykzielinski1927 pls speak english
Well done FNATIC
not much they could do, he refused to play with the actual team so he was benched, rekkles was like 5th option this season for fnatic.
@@carlosxevon9498 he refused to play because the org is shit not because he was having a time of his life
@@carlosxevon9498 he had no problem with players, he had problem with FNATIC management so did everyone else, but FNATIC chose to keep management and fck the players
@Alen Lisic he has issues with the management and the team not wanting to try at all, do you think if all 5 players wanted to scrim the org wouldn't be able to organise it? wunder the infamous wow player and humanoid the "he performs when it matters and when he's motivated" (humanoid never performs lmao), stop making excuses, the players on that team do not care, humanoid was looking to go to NA and retire after mad, but mad sold him to fnc
@@carlosxevon9498 ask urself why no one wants to join fnc starting from exackick (a rookie)
Now when the team gets 4th place in spring they will blame Kaiser.
this is gonna be a banger
Surely this superteam will work
I really hope vitality succeeds not bc of the players but bc the org is trying so hard and doing everything they can Jesus, they got 3 players on the bench that they’re paying to not play lmao
😙
yeah they probably aint paying them much. Jankos once talked about what you get benched and rekkles too iirc
@@zokora3656but this is G2 jail we dont know how it looks on vitality would be nice if we not make trash org like G2 compared to others
@@patrykzielinski1927 man i really hope someone can dethrone that shit org the coming split
@@patrykzielinski1927 while thats true its also known as common practice around the whole esports world. you are benched you barely earn anything. It just makes no sense for an org to pay you full price when all you do is play some scrims and soloq for months.
NICE.
We have competition for G2 now.
Well there's two people to a botlane and Kaiser was sprinting it just as hard as Neon tbh.
if fnatic doesn't move rekkles support and get neon on the team as an exchange i have 0 idea how they are going to achieve anything in spring split
bad idea , will never happen
okayyyy you have my attention
And now we put free agent nemesis on the midlane spot and we got a super interesting team.
I don't know if its confirmed but I heard the buyout was 800 k
It is a great improvement, but let's not forget that the anchor of the team is Kaiser, if he doesn't give the level he will be out in a few months.
Does Vitality get 2nd seed to MSI if they get 2nd this split?
Winners of winter and spring go to msi, if g2 win again its second placed team i think
Not guaranteed if g2 win again and teams with more championship points lose then yea
@@Tomas.666 not sure but like let's say G2 win again, VIT comes in second and MAD comes in 3rd or 4th. I think MAD would go through cause they would have more points overall. Unless 2nd split is worth more points or smth, I think VIT legit needs to win it to go through or MAD/KOI have to flop.
@@aryamansingh9210 ur correct
@@aryamansingh9210I think spring is more points cuz winter winner gets the 2nd seed in europe in msi and spring gets 1st
I want to see who was the problem
Upset, oh no and I had hopes for Vitality
Upset is good friends with everyone on that team xD and is infinitely better than Neon.
whats up with the random hate
Upset is like top 2 ADCs of the West, has a great personality (Watch interviews/posts of his former teammates) and is very ambitious. So why this comment? Inform urself before talking bullshit - like wtf. Just dont post anything if you have no clue
oh its a gg
The only logical outcome of this situation is that Upset starts smurfing and the rest starts sprinting harder than we've ever seen.
On a more serious note tho: If Vitality can't be at the top now, especially with changes to engage supports coming up (and me thinking that Kaiser will do better then), they're just doomed for eternity.
Yea upset yes
Maybe selfmade was part of the deal. That would explain why Cartman asked him is he ready to play again.
@Filip Lebiedew yes, he mentioned that on steam, but maybe it was just troll
Upset is underated, I bet Vit is gonna pop off now that the bot lane isnt a weight to drag
Huhhhhh who is underrating upset ppl been calling him the best adc in lec for 2 years
@@playboicarkeys9038 People also call him toxic and needing all resources, neither of which is true.
lets see how many issues vitality have before reaching an international event now...
Or non who knows, if g2 is smart they just put out academy playing next split and go to asia to scrim for msi
@@RumandCocaine true, g2 needs more practice, i m confident in yike, caps and miky but broken blade is still gonna int and am not sure bout hans sama
Honestly, after watching their games especially during playoffs I think, it did feel like he was a little weak. Not bad, but just not as good as you expect from a team as VIT.
At this point I just feel like there's a problem in the organization itself... Don't get too hyped guys
Feels like Neon just plays well and then gets kicked off teams and I don't really understand why because he doesn't deserve it
he played mediocre at best and he actually fucked over his team in the last series.
Did you watch any of VIT's games in the group stage? Neon and Kaiser were a complete liability and just couldn't stop running it the fuck down.
for the last 2 teams he played on, he just unfortunately played on the same split they sold off their spots
now when he's on a stable team he somehow underperforms, sad but its how it is
@@Rommel12 Perkz was a liability too, should he be kicked as well?
bro just watch his stream the guy is running it every game i cant imagine what a liability he is in pro play.. ego higher than his skills
upset vs rekkles will be greater rivarly than Conor vs Khabib
Sipping
both finished 😂😂😂
Why take back Rekkles when you have Upset or at least Rekkles supp and upset adc?
Because Upset didn’t want to play and nobody else wanted to join Fnatic.
Rekkles was like 4th/5th pick at best.
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Wont change anything. There are way more problems than weakside adc getting shit on
Lol. Their bot was fking dogshit in the most bot meta ever. Changing is a must. U are either braindead or u dont see the bigger picture. They have hugeee communication problems but bot was one of the main reasons.
He will not be playing weakside.
@@amirtorhan2762 Will he? Botlane is not just adc you know. Kaiser was playing much worse than even Neon and even when he was playing good in MAD he never really was a lane player. He is mostly known for his playmaking outside the lane. And if even if Upset somehow will fix their botlane problem midlane is still a liability. Perkz has his moments but on average he is running it down a lot and the only reason he isn't getting criticized a lot is the nameplate. If Vitality wants to win something, especially internationally, they need Caps.
@@lunacy5510 you actually said why Upset is such a huge change. Upset can play weakside and almost perfectly he can also carry hard. Upset will allow Kaiser to room and be a playmaker and this will make Bo finally shine. Perks is not the best player in the world he is the captain . He feels the need to create plays when his team falls behinde but in lane ? You will never see him getting 1 vs 1 and he had some of the best farm in the league. Bo and Perks where the best 2 vs 2 in the league until play offs . where Neon and Kaiser became so much of a liability he was doing shit plays trying to save theyr ass like the Yone ult after Trymbi on bot . Perks legit had 1 bad split in my memory and that was summer split with C9 where he got to quarters at world's. Last year the team was just a complete flop Lebrov and Carzzy had no sinergy and fucking finally Alphari was deleted from the league cuz that guy is the most overrated player in the history . And yes Perks did not try very hard . I am sorry but you are Perks you know you have been to worlds finals worlds semis won MSI have the most domestic titles in the history of the West you want the big trophy really that's your goal you want worlds. He can clearly see if his team is not a worlds team since he was at worlds since he started his career every single year expect last year . He missed 1 year in 6-7
@@lunacy5510 no, stop replacing Perkz with Caps ahhahah
Well if thing about upset beeing not good teammate are true like i wouldnt be shocked to see them do even worse... I ve been watching lec for a long timenow and as far as i can remember upset is always strong side and wants to be played around......
So who knows how they gonna do. On paper looks like upgrade for sure but will have to see if they will glue together well
I mean Upset tends to be strong side because the rest of his team just fucking hard runs it and can't play strong side. You expected Wunder to carry in FNC? Razork? Intanoid? Do you even watch these games or just repeat shitty Reddit arguments made by morons?
the rumors arent that upset is a bad teammate, but that he is ambitious and expects his team to actually scrim…
He isn’t a bad teammate - He wants decent practice and all things about he and Wunder not wanting to play together was nonsense confirmed by the players themselves.
Dude, inform urself - every of his former teammates say he is a cool guy… I dont know why ppl still say this bs
Well anyone will rage if you dont even show up to scrims
Upset to mad would have been sick
Yeah, Carzzy is just uncarriable.
Then they get Adam top and Bwipo jungle amirite?
MAD don't like to spend money
they would still suck cause mediocre midlaner who chokes every important match.
@@KACE_BLUE tbh nisqy played alot better than the "Goat", it also looks like nisqy hasn't reached his limits yet.
Their academy guy isnt that bad
Neon make every team he joins better even he isnt that good OPEN YOUR EYES GUYS
When is next LEC?
Must be in march i guess
This week ?
@@ozymandias8523 in 2 weeks like 11 or 12 march
Like what you guys saying, lately spring season ends and its soon again lec?
I mean winter
It was about time they do something about that garbage bot
nemesis on fnc with selfmade is pretty dope no?
Didn’t work before though. It wouldn’t be great.
@@PeoplePleaser578 better than what they have now x)
@@anjerkanjer3260 Im not saying that but it’s not hard to be better than that 🤣
While Fnatic management is stuck with Rekkles :V but hey do it for the content right guys! hahaha
Sucks for Neon lol. He wasn't bad. But Upset is clearly better so I still understand VIT.
I mean upset is a clear upgrade over 9 of the 10 adcs that played in the winter split, and Neon is not that 10th.
VIT are desperate to win something and you can't afford to NOT get upset when he's available, unless you have that 10th adc.
upset with a roaming supp? uff wonder how the team will implode this time 🤣
Um didn’t upset do great with hylissang? And isn’t hylissang the one with leas ttime in lane lol
Upset played well with Hyli? He likes aggressive roaming supports.
upset kaiser might be the strongest duo in the LEC if both are able to play at their peak
Could be true if engage supports become more meta, although right now the raw talent and flexibility of Hans/Mikyx and the meta favouring Trymbi (who is the only support we have that can play enchanters at a world-class level) means that G2 and Koi's botlanes are the ones to beat. Lane dominant ADCs are meta though and Upset is excellent at that.
@@midastheunwise2423 engage has gotten huge buffs
It was long ago, Kaiser was on his peak.
@@midastheunwise2423 true, theres a lot of uncertainties with whether they gel together instantly, I would assume upset plays pretty well just considering his previous performances on teams, but kaiser has been on a lil bit of a slump recently due to meta change. Tbf it seems like engage is starting to return with little buffs so maybe he'll either give up on improving his enchanters and go back to melee or keep trying.
@@krisp1871 Cool, good to know. I don't play anymore so I'm always a bit out of date on the meta
nooo
photon bo perz upset kaiser. big w
Imagine losing Upset and now propably Wunder to get and keep Rekkless. FNC just want to lose. Next up they kick Humanoid and its perfect. 10th place guaranteed.
Bro Humanoid has been one of the worst performing members on that team 🤣. Rekkles was a distant 4th/5th option because nobody else wanted to join.
Neon wasn't the problem with the team though...
Yes he was… That botlane was getting decimated in a botlane meta.
They literally could not play through botlane.
@@PeoplePleaser578 nope there were many problems
@@sportsngaming6717 And Neon was one of them… a botlane that loses every lane in a botlane meta is not good.
@@PeoplePleaser578 he was not one of the worst. The worst player on their team is perkz.
@@sportsngaming6717 That’s how I know you are Fanboying for Neon. Nobody who watched vitality this year and watched Neon getting fisted by every botlane and genuinely thought that Perkz was the worst… He and Bo as a mid 2v2 literally carried every game for vitality 🤣.
feel bad for neon he was not bad
Ngl he did suck this year, compared to the rest. Adc is so fucking stacked in Lec its hard to keep up
ofc he was bad with kaiser
Nah he was bad
He was always mediocre because he hesitates when there's no reason to, like that lvl1 2v2 vs KOI. Last year he managed to be confident in some said key moments but it seems like that was the exception. It's a pity really because he's shown he can be brilliant but he lacks confidence/fails to read the situation.
I feel bad too and he deserves another chance to prove himself, but come on you can't say he wasn't bad
Him and Kaiser legit kept losing 2v2 every game
Finally. I don't even know why they got Neon in Vitality in the first place. He is the weakest of them all. Thank god they replaced him.
Its fine, neon will play again at worlds kekw
If true then fuck yheah,
smartest move if they want go all in this year.
Reading these comments just reminds me that esport is so young and don't understand how sport works or rather business.
But if they succeed who tf cares what these comments says in feb/march
FNATIC with the big brain plays LMAO
VIT gonna compete with G2 now with upset
Neon can easily replace the three worst adcs in Rekkles, Jackspectra and Carzzy
Really not a fan of this... Upset is good but tends to put himself and his interests over the team interests (FNC at Worlds for exemple) it could be a disaster if VIT didn't put limits and severe conditions to Upset because of his unprofessional behaviour passive
What a Bullshit. Perkz and Upset are good friends andbthey wanted to play together for a reason. This random Upset hate is just fucking stupid.
Ok next get Faker mid and maybe Vitality stacked ultra turbo superteam can win 1 lec split lmaooo
How does VIT have so much money???
they spend like an NA team
Is quite clear VIT is one of the richest team in the west . They can apparently buy any player they want . Also they keeping Selfmade on the bench like he is payed 10 bucks a month. They had at one point 4 junglers in the roster like they don't appear to care that much . As other teams would hurry up to sell players to not lose money . Think at Jankos . Why would G2 sell him just keep him make him coach Yike for a bit but they don't have the money VIT does.
@@Ronaldona Bo was not that cheep Chinese players are actually expensive even banned from China Bo came after that undefeated 10 games in the LPL for sure he had a decent price
@@Ronaldona And Photon came from SKT academy who produced Zeus Gumayushi. He is for sure the cheapest player but for sure he has like a IRL price. But They had 4 junglers at 1 point on the bench . Again Selfmade on the bench . Alphari on the bench and they don't seem to care. Kaiser for sure has a good salary. And now just straight off buying Upset from FNC under contract ? That's a big buy out since Upset came from a year of solo carrying FNC to worlds.
How to not love vitality
Huh? Neon run it down- they wanna compete and Upset is like Top 3 adc of West
@@insolens6536 true xd
if nemesis was playing instead of perkz, this team would be extremely scary
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD give me some of that shit
The LEC adc pool : Hans Upset Exakick comp patrick kobbe 🔥🔥🔥
@@xEmpress95 Cool story, nobody cares what they did in the past in this discussion, currently Rekkles, Crownshot and Carzzy are giga bad. Crownshot and Carzzy have never been in Top 3 as ADC. Crownshow has never achieved anything meaningful and Carzzy has a title being carried. Rekkles should swap to support because he fell off 3 years ago and has never adjusted back. He could be a god-tier support in current meta but instead of insists on being a mediocre adc in every meta.
@@MartinWasTakencrownie isn't "giga bad" right now, honestly every lec adc is at least decent this season, most competitive role right now
I thought perkz was the problem, he played horribly imo
😂😂😂😂 VITALITY IS SO DOOMED NOW. SINCE UPSAD ALWAYS WANTS SO MUCH RESOURCES TO CARRY. NOW VITALITY TOPLANE WILL BECOME FEEDING MACHINE AND BO WILL HV TO PERMA BABYSIT BOTLANE. PERKZ IS AS USUAL HOPELESS.
VITALITY WITH CURSE UWU BOI. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 LETS GO.
Kinda what razork did in winter split, only his adc was too garbadge to do anything.
Spring split meta for supports will be engage supports, thresh etc so dont be worry about kaiser :D I worry about upset performance more than kaiser :D Upset was godlike in fnc last split but i remember community makes fun of him, blame, call kda player, choke boy in the past :D And reminder he played with hylissang, who in winter made carzzy looks good :D and in the past worlds (2020)history make rekkles looks very agrro kill lane 2v2 botlane when rekkles is generally now as safe lane, weakside so we will see :D
call me crazy but I don't believe this will change much, I don't believe it was Neon's fault for what happened to be honest, Bo and Perkz played really bad in last games as well, Photon seemed the only consistent one, so you can pretty much blame everyone except Photon for that, I don't know how Perkz keeps escaping the blame 24/7, he just played bad, and not only this split, last year as well and yet somehow no one blames him, I'm not saying for people to straight up do what they did to FNC players to him since that's just crazy stuff, those people hating on Rekkles blindly for so many years, literally being on every post about Rekkles to just leave hate comments and those people that gave death wishes to Razork are just not mentally sane, but like don't put Neon as the scapegoat, VIT at the end of the day ended still 5th.. just one place above last year while the scapegoats during those times were Alphari, Haru,Selfmade, Carzzy, ofc not much but might change something like from 5th going to 2nd is kinda possible, saw that Upset is really hardworking, he is spamming soloq and CQ games, aint one of those peoples to believe that SQ or CQ doesn't help at all and plays seriously every game trying to improve and it definitely helps, Hans did that as well during off-season and it seems like it helped, so I believe having someone like Upset will definitely somewhat help but I still don't believ that Neon was really at fault for what happened
I don't get why everybody saying perkz is the goat, the dude was maybe strong few years ago but now he can't carry a game and get gapped too often.
nemesis should mid on vitality
Bo is over rated lol