@@earlmcmanus194 I love the movie too but youve got some nerve saying that while your name is "Tom Hagan", troll or not. I was literally thinking of The Godfather before I even saw your name.
Mickey Rourke was and is an extremely talented man..He did not go crazy he simply made mistakes and with the second chance of the movie "The wrestler" he proved that he still is an extremely talented actor. He is real and raw..something hollywood can not relate to. I admire his work and his ability to take accountability.
I think its fair to say he has been affected by the whole LA/Hollywood scene. Hes living his life the way he wants to but he does look a bit eccentric to say the least compared to his 90s days. He looks effeminate and thats without taking the unfortunate face surgery into account. As long as hes happy, who cares.
The wrestler wasn't his "second chance".He was doing good work all the way through.Just many people like you know next to nothing about him n say shit the sheeple have said beforehand.Not sayn it's bad or not,it's just what people do I see.♠️
He was more than "pretty dam good" in Sin City. He was the #1 best thing in Sin City. He brought Marv (the best character) to life in that movie. The role was made perfectly for him.
Young Mickey Rourke was (and is) a hallmark actor. Marlon Brando level. He had a horrific abusive childhood which lead to becoming a boxer prior to acting. He was made tough to survive living at all. No one told him about the politics of Hollywood & he insulted some top brass . Being boycotted by them lead him to go back to boxing. He saw it as “unfinished business”. He makes the best of things. He’s unique in that he continually evolves. He’s gotten therapy for his ptsd or whatever complications 😢resulted from tragically hard life yet maintaining a sensitivity only found in “the greats” in movies. Like Brando, he only knows how to be honest. I will always pay to see him in any movie he’s in…why? He’s a once in a lifetime actor, and a gift to behold. Many levels..
nice fairytale he is created by himself to hide the true.. fame money durgs and alcohol did it not boxing ! gron up ! every broken men is telling own story but the true story is the hidden one which is not talking about ! ppl love him coz he is broken inside nobody would remember about him if he did not get the lats chance in wrestler .. and ppl love to watch broken ppl to feel on the same level... he was good actor nothing more !
Everyone has a life story. The overwhelming majority of course remain unknown. It seems like these people born in New York or LA get all the attention. Whether they're actors, bankers, politicians etc. So be it. But they're only a teeny tiny fraction of billions of personal lives going down everyday. I don't direct any admiration towards any human publicly besides mom, dad, kids, wife and family. People always fail and always let you down. Like me. I've let myself down many times over. So I put no faith in people.
@Allan Ros Rourke was never a coke head.. Smoking cigarettes maybe and few drinks and a line every now and then but he was always working out and never touched hard drugs.
@@jonathan2755 I think what he meant was that he did the occasional line. That’s not the same as being a full-blown cokehead. Way more people than you probably think do that.
Angel Heart, Johnny Handsome, Diner, A Prayer For The Dying, The Boxer, Rumble Fish, Barfly, White Sands the list of top notch performances before his fall is impressive. Since his return (and during) is also impressive. The Wrestler, Sin City, Spun, Domino. Always been a fan, always will be a fan.
Mickey Rourke lived his life, he made films that are classic, he became humbled by his mistakes and came back. Mickey is a man. Joe Rogan, Fear is not a Factor to you... what a legacy
Mickey Rourke at the beginning of his film career has two scenes with William Hurt in Body Heat and he’s magnetic in the same way that Brando and James Dean were magnetic. He’s incredible in these two scenes. He’s not doing a lot of physical business. He’s not overacting or chewing up the scenery. Quite the opposite in fact. He’s simply talking to William Hurt. But by the end of these two scenes, you can see him become a movie star.
@@getoffmylawn8986 he didn’t really steal it. Come on. William Hurt was amazing as was Kathleen. great movie to this day. Although MR really did stand out, no question, was likable and so much more than a day actor, for sure definitely memorable
I can still remember the scene with William Hurt, where Mickey is talking with Hurt about the difficulty in using a bomb and getting away with it: "Are you listening to me, asshole?" Brilliant. A well cast movie with Ted Danson as one of the cops.
In the early 90’s I had the pleasure of having a brief chat with Mickey at his bar in Miami Beach. He was the antithesis of a movie star...very unassuming and while not necessarily approachable he came across as an authentic soul.
It seemed so unfair. Sean Penn was excellent in 'Milk' but it did seem like those Hollywood scumbags were paying Mickey back for his destructive behaviour at the height of his career. They have long memories.
@@REDMAN298 Absolutely! He made so many mistakes but it would just be nice if the Academy awarded actors on their merits and not on their past behaviour!
I met Mickey Rourke over 30-years ago, when he still looked normal. He was very easy to talk to, very open and honest. That was the problem... he was TOO honest. Even then he complained very vocally about the negative aspects of working in Hollywood-and of of course he was right-but he stepped on too many big toes for his own good, and it cost him dearly, sad to say. I think he was one of the greatest actors who ever lived, easily up there with Brando and Pacino.
There is a group of bloodsuckers in Hollywood who want to take these stars money --- " Go to my uncle Morty for your PR." " See Dr Goldberg for some work on your nose. " " You have to have use Dr Smith for your teeth caps. " Like Meg Ryan and others. They don't care what the results are or even if you actually need the work. They just want to shove as much work to their friends as possible. I worked for 4 years in a Beverly Hills salon....Trust me.
@@tiffsaverThat depends what you hold dear to yourself. Integrity honesty and holding to principles have more meaning to some than going against your own nature in order to be “successful”. In his eyes I don’t think he thinks he lost..
@@moleahjobe You don't get it. He already admitted he lost, at least financially. In fact, his attitude nearly cost him his entire career, don't you know that??
Hmm...yea but a lot of his fights were staged later and he didn't look good in the ring. But as an actor.....whoooe....another story altogether. The best American actor after Brando along with Willem Defoe.
He was getting plastic surgery before the boxing, his fights were all staged if you watch the footage, he has an addiction to surgery, hence the reason everytime you see him he has some new surgery..
@@michaelking9818 he is, he just hasn't had that much good luck with what movies he chooses to be in. But his actual skill is fucking high. Even in bad movies, he's usually the best part about them. Immortals is an example. Everyone says that movie sucks, but that Rourke as the villain was the best part of the movie.
@@gamemediafan1714 He is a very good actor ,but not in the same league as Brando , I would have gone with year of the dragon ,not with Immortal which is a dreadful movie and I have never seen him do any Shakespeare which is the gold standard of acting .
@@michaelking9818 I'm making a point on how even when he's in BAD movies, his acting is on point and he's usually seen as the best part of the movie. I used Immortals as an example, because everybody that's seen it says that Rourke as King Hyperion was the best part.
@@Geared84 he actually did a lot of homework prepping for the role but the producers either cut out or mitigated whatever he did to make the movie much more mainstream and marketable. If he had got his way he might have turned Whiplash into an award contending role
Tarantino, the ultimate Emperors New Clothes Director. His films are the most hyped, bull I have ever seen. I'm sure Mickey wasn't buying any of the bullshit he was selling. There's more to Mickey than a good soundtrack, well known iconic actors and mixed up gratuitous violence. He plays meaningful roles that have a story to them.
@@rasher331 You don’t think _Reservoir Dogs_ or _Pulp Fiction_ holds up? From dialogue to how a story is revealed, Tarantino changed cinema. Not a lot of serious film people could agree with you. There are plenty of very highly regarded films that have had violence well before Tarantino, from spaghetti westerns to the dark films of the ‘70s.
@@GloogleGloigle All his films are the same, decent soundtracks and well known faces but the effort to try and make his films original was just too much. Its all but guaranteed that you can expect him to try some over the top concept to try and buy in the audience. I just found his movies boring and the violence became tedious.
Man I'd love to see Rogan interview Rourke! The'd have such a good conversation. Feel like they'd really get one another with their respective backgrounds and dislike of Hollywood.
Saying he went crazy is disingenuous. Mickey was definitely a rebel EVEN against his own self, no doubt, but more than that… too real for Hollywood! And still, a certified legend, with classic movies and classic roles. I think he had the GOAT peak - and best natural talent - for a leading actor. And even after everything, he made his way back and delivered one of the very best performances ever in The Wrestler.
Thank you Joe Rogan, I always liked Mickey Rourke and his movies as a kid and I feel like he never got the appreciation he deserves. Well these days JR is huge and just him talking about Rourke being a great actor makes me feel like he finally got some appreciation from the right people
I do respect what Joe's saying. I don't think anyone has ever questioned whether or not Mickey has/had CTE. He had an impressive boxing career; he's a tough guy. I think the reason he's never been "mainstream " is because of how outspoken against Hollywood he is. Reminds me of Marlon Brando. He does seem like a genuinely nice guy despite his past troubles, and he has cleaned himself up.
Mickey even in small cameo parts is incredible like body heat, Buffalo 66 & the rain maker. He had the same magnetism of a James Dean. Hes so beautiful in Rumble fish
I had my first concussion at 15. I had three more in the next three years. From my 20's to my 60's, I've had ten more. I have multiple symptoms of CTE....now. The biggest for me has been....aggression, irritability, depression, and some cognition issues. I don't have memory loss....yet. Football and bicycle accidents were the leading causes, but it also includes two auto accidents, wrestling, and mountain climbing. 65 now.....
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ now 72 the way i lived my life until i was 65 created an amazing gift package....... those same traits are making these last years hell let’s all go to Sugar rock Candy Mountain
Mickey Rourke suffered a difficult childhood that contributed to his downfall as a Hollywood actor. Trouble with authority. Gave the big shots a hard time and got a reputation for being difficult. Terrific actor. Good looking. He went back to boxing and got his ass kicked. Great actor. Not so great boxer. I respect the guy. Like his films.
If you watch inside the actors studio about him. Amazing !! I've been to the spot were it was the last time he saw his father and stood on that exct sewer drain. Tragic
Dude just about anyone past 40 asks themselves "what happened to me" it's life bro it hits very hard no matter who the hell you are and not alot us can take it physically or mentally... Rourke doesn't look that bad even with his surgery and isn't crazy at all...eccentric to some maybe but not crazy
A freaking mn...as in AMEN... that's exactly how I see Mickey's life. My life has been a mirror image (but as a nobody of course)... at 40 +/- I was like WHAT THE F!!?? Where the hell did my life go... where the woman at... and ohhhh shit.... now I'm really a NOBODY. VERY VERY VERY important to marry and have kids... in your 30's!!! I don't give a rat's ass how horrible it most likely will be (divorce, kids hate ya, etc)... it's better than being a Mickey or a nobody Mickey.
@@symcardnel1741 having kids and getting married for the sake of just doing that so it makes someone feel better or whole is not right, it is selfish and is the primary reason for divorces and dysfunctional kids. Start a family when you know you can handle everything that comes with it. If you cant dont, and if you dont then accept it, you still can walk, dont have any serious health issues and always have tomorrow to look forward to.
@@symcardnel1741 Its not all about women , he had a difficult childhood , he said himself he was beaten by stepfather , who was a policeman, so he had his own fears to deal with, as he told himself , he was affraid to have children with a woman in case if he has a son and divorce her , he couldnt deal to leave a child for her , if the man is abusive
I feel bad for you guys thinking that about yourselves after 40. Since I know people who are stronger and doing better in their 40s than in their 20s and 30s, but they treated their bodies and health well. I mean 40s is relatively young if you take care of yourself. Even in the 50s you can be pretty healthy and strong. My dad is 70 and runs 5 miles every day looks in his 50s. He's stronger than most people in their 20s physically and was making a ton of money all the way up until his 60s. His testosterone levels are 670 and he's never taken anything before, and him and my mother are on 0 medications between the both of them. He's never heard of TRT either. I honestly feel bad for you guys if you feel like that in your 40s, you should be pretty damn close to your prime still legitimately. Don't look at it negatively, you can always improve your outlook and where you are in life. Just wait until you're not young at all anymore, and are actually really getting old like your 60s to 70s and think about how you will feel. Mickey is on drugs man. He's almost 70 and his deterioration throughout life is not typical, he looks awful. Im not quite 40, but im in my prime still with everything. I have made improvements in my mid to late 30s as opposed to my 20s without a doubt. You guys should be getting more hot chicks around 40 just as easy as 20's. You should have more money, and even if you're not doing well with that most guys in terms of looks look best in their early 40s according to younger women. I understand a lot of this is genetics and you guys may have bad genes, but you can improve your lives and your body to where you will feel better and be doing better than you're doing now. Be confident in yourself and your abilities even if you haven't done well up until now, that can always change if you want it bad enough. Hopefully you guys are at least happy, but the sound of your post was negative. I know this is long, but i'm trying to help because the two of you sound depressed, and don't have a good outlook on life overall. Wish you guys the best, and hope things improve as you get older which it can if you take care of yourself.
Dude these are just facts, life for most alters physically and mentally after 40. Yes it is possible to become physically fitter and stronger mentally after 40 but for most people and here I emphasize for most people that isn't the case. Seeing your hair fall off, wrinkles form, developing muscular skeletal problems, becoming more susceptible to diseases you wouldn't normally get sick of for over a week with, losing your libido, having EDS, these are things that like it or not happen to alot of males in the West past their 40s. Is it right to have a positive mindset and not be a victim to the norm? Yes sir it definitely is and recognising the problem is the first step to that. Mickey has lived a 1000 lifetimes in as far as what most people strive for in life i.e fame and riches plus all that comes with that (good or bad) and he is what getting to 70? In my book he has had positive and negative life experiences that could fill up a ten thousand page biography written in size 5 letters. Yes we all have our story to tell for sure, I agree and all your points are very valid, however facts are life is harsh period... I'm just pointing this out.
Sparring with James Toney.......Ihave no words for that bro. If you're not training to fight for the world championship youre crazy to spar a guy on that level Crazy. Toney is one of the hardest hitting boxer/punchers ever.
The guy who thought it was a bike accident was probably thinking of gary busy. Busy was in a motorcycle accident and not wearing a helmet and after that busy went batshit crazy.
I heard someone on TV can't remember who said Sean Penn wants to be Mickey Rourke. They went on to say Sean Penn wants and pretends to be a tough guy but Mickey Rourke is a tough guy the real deal.
He comes up with a theory and runs with it like it’s gospel. It could just be the guy aged poorly then made it worse with bad plastic surgery now he has a tough time even making a living, that could make anyone crazy.
Angel Heart was my favorite movie for years! Mickey is just one of those guys that jump off the screen! His acting career should have included a lot more roles! And I truly believe the man would have won an Oscar somewhere along the line!
The Mickey story is such a sad one. Some people can take huge hits and nothing much changes. Some of us get hit once and it's all over. Rourke was probably one of those one hit and you are out guys. Simply bad luck. I loved his acting. I hope he finds something to help him glide into old age in a good way. You know how it is. One day you are f-d up and the next day you are flying high. Good luck Mickey. You have suffered enough.
Get Mickey on the podcast hed be super interesting to have on his insta is entertaining, also I can't believe Joe didn't mention how amazing his performance was in 'the wrestler' it related heavily to his life.
What happened. Hmm. He was like Brando, he acted great, was bored by it, loved and hated the notoriety for something that came so easy, but always insecure and so he was self-destructive.
Have you seen any videos of his fights ? Most seem to be boat races (fixes) ! He was not a real professional and he should never taken it up . In many of his fights he AND HIS OPPONENT WERE both BOOED !! You could at one time view them but they have been removed and I can see why ! He should have stuck to acting !
If you want to check out the quality pre-boxing acting chops of Mickey Rourke, watch "The Pope of Greenwich Village." The movie co-starred Eric Roberts as Rourke's troublesome cousin. Stylish, intense film. And the song that opens the movie, "Summer Wind" by Frank Sinatra. On point!
I knew almost instantly that Keenan was talking about Gary Busey , but I liked Mickey Rourke in the Wrestler"and even though he wasn't the led actor in Man on fire he did a great job in it.
The story about Mickey Rourke over the years....was that he was a jerk,his ex girlfriend clammed he beat her,he is difficult to work with,turned down a lot of projects that would have made him a really big movie star and he had a substance abuse problem. Basically,he sabotaged himself!
@@amandadassonville4043 Mickey Rouke was offered and he turned down the script called Rocky.He also was offered Highlander and he passed on that project too.
Well, that's not true. That's what he says, but if you take a look at his cameo in the movie "The Pledge", with Jack Nicholson, AFTER his boxing career, he still looked very much like himself, albeit a bit older. Problem is, after that he went on to have more cosmetic procedures, probably to look younger, and THAT's when he messed up his face.
Mickey Rourke, at his best, in the '80's, did one great film after another: "Year of the Dragon", "The Pope of Greenwich Village" with Eric Roberts, "Diner" and "Rumblefish", both with a slew of up and coming talented actors. "Barfly", with Faye Dunaway, is one of my all-time favorite films, really funny, in an understated way, based on writings of Charles Bukowski. And then there was "Homeboy", with Christopher Walken, about a naive boxer who is being taken advantage of by others, getting paid to take dives, and later getting used as "muscle" by a low-level criminal. It may have been training for that movie that got him into boxing, that proved to be his personal downfall.
He had a terrible childhood and was never good enough for his absentee father who only saw him to get money after he blew up. I think that had a lot to do with trying to fix and possibly self sabotage his 'image'.
Barfly is a classic. If you love Bukowski, it's even better. Diner is also one of my all time favourite films. I'd never seen such wonderfully casual, realistic dialogue like that. I was 11 years old and decided to learn to write natural dialogue like that.
@thegentlelivingchannel I do really love both films along with Bukowski's writing. Then again, I'm also a fan of Burroughs and the rest of his friend's circle. They just don't make innovative people like this anymore. 😔
@@TechnicJunglist oh, they do. It took until very late in life for old Buke to be known to us. There are plenty of unknown, brilliant writers out there we just don't know about.
Mickey Rourke s abilities as an actor is at the level of Pacino, Day Lewis, Sean Penn, etc. Very few people have that talent. It s a shame his personality made it difficult for him to choose good roles
No one's gonna mention Mickey's performance in The Wrestler? Incredible film.
Ikr
I love The Wrestler and would argue it's the greatest film ever made.
Dude I was just thinking that as soon as I click this video and then I saw your fucking comment fuck yeah bro
lmao James was thinking of Gary Busey of the guy who bonked his head then looked all crazy afterward
@@earlmcmanus194 I love the movie too but youve got some nerve saying that while your name is "Tom Hagan", troll or not. I was literally thinking of The Godfather before I even saw your name.
Mickey Rourke was and is an extremely talented man..He did not go crazy he simply made mistakes and with the second chance of the movie "The wrestler" he proved that he still is an extremely talented actor. He is real and raw..something hollywood can not relate to. I admire his work and his ability to take accountability.
I think its fair to say he has been affected by the whole LA/Hollywood scene. Hes living his life the way he wants to but he does look a bit eccentric to say the least compared to his 90s days. He looks effeminate and thats without taking the unfortunate face surgery into account. As long as hes happy, who cares.
The wrestler wasn't his "second chance".He was doing good work all the way through.Just many people like you know next to nothing about him n say shit the sheeple have said beforehand.Not sayn it's bad or not,it's just what people do I see.♠️
What exactly his 'mistake' back then?
@@ConanObrien22 he pissed off Sam Goldwyn Jr. who is Hollywood royalty and took on bad films. Great actor nonetheless all the way though.
@@jamesgazdik9497 tell me the detail about it?
He was pretty damn good in Sin City as well
He's good in all his movies, as long as the MOVIE is good.
thw wrestler, spun, sin city. Funny enough, i'm not a fan of young bitch voice rourke. I like the old bad ass rourke from late 90's to about 2008
He was more than "pretty dam good" in Sin City. He was the #1 best thing in Sin City. He brought Marv (the best character) to life in that movie. The role was made perfectly for him.
@@devlinsmith942 Yes, one of my fav performances ever. Way better than Heath Ledger as Joker or many more overrated performances.
J. S.P. - Mickey Rourke is the living Marv, can't imagine anyone else doing that character!
Young Mickey Rourke was (and is) a hallmark actor. Marlon Brando level. He had a horrific abusive childhood which lead to becoming a boxer prior to acting. He was made tough to survive living at all. No one told him about the politics of Hollywood & he insulted some top brass . Being boycotted by them lead him to go back to boxing. He saw it as “unfinished business”. He makes the best of things. He’s unique in that he continually evolves. He’s gotten therapy for his ptsd or whatever complications 😢resulted from tragically hard life yet maintaining a sensitivity only found in “the greats” in movies. Like Brando, he only knows how to be honest. I will always pay to see him in any movie he’s in…why? He’s a once in a lifetime actor, and a gift to behold. Many levels..
I recently watched “The Wrestler” and it might be one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen. Incredible performance from him
nice fairytale he is created by himself to hide the true.. fame money durgs and alcohol did it not boxing ! gron up ! every broken men is telling own story but the true story is the hidden one which is not talking about ! ppl love him coz he is broken inside nobody would remember about him if he did not get the lats chance in wrestler .. and ppl love to watch broken ppl to feel on the same level... he was good actor nothing more !
@@walsjell oh, you read his life story?
Everyone has a life story. The overwhelming majority of course remain unknown. It seems like these people born in New York or LA get all the attention. Whether they're actors, bankers, politicians etc. So be it. But they're only a teeny tiny fraction of billions of personal lives going down everyday. I don't direct any admiration towards any human publicly besides mom, dad, kids, wife and family. People always fail and always let you down. Like me. I've let myself down many times over. So I put no faith in people.
@@walsjell first learn to write before teaching everyone lessons, then quit BSing around, then come back to talk!
'80s Mickey Rourke was untouchable
He was exceptional. The talent was always there, he was just conflicted about his place in it all.
Dragon. 9.5 Weeks. Angelheart. Pope of Greenwich Village. Johnny Handsome. Yes..80's was Rourke's decade.
@Allan Ros Rourke was never a coke head.. Smoking cigarettes maybe and few drinks and a line every now and then but he was always working out and never touched hard drugs.
@@fosizas coke is a hard drug you fkn idiot. You completely contradicted yourself.
@@jonathan2755 I think what he meant was that he did the occasional line. That’s not the same as being a full-blown cokehead. Way more people than you probably think do that.
Still a good actor. He lost his face and tried to fix it and ended up looking like an older lesbian.
@MysteryFan to other old lesbians,maybe
Hilfuckinarious 😂 😂
This comment has broken me
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s funny
He should have won an Oscar for his performance in the Wrestler.
Agreed
Angel Heart too
He did
He did
@@JamesColeman78he did not win the Oscar, but was nominated. Sean Penn won.
While I empathize with Mickey on whatever happened to him in his movie career, I don't regret it. He was freakin' fantastic as Marv in Sin City.
The Wrestler was one of the most powerful movies ever made, emotional roller-coaster...
If you don't see The Wrestler, you are missing a great film. Hulk Hogan said the film portrayed his early life as well as many other wrestlers' lives.
Angel Heart, Johnny Handsome, Diner, A Prayer For The Dying, The Boxer, Rumble Fish, Barfly, White Sands the list of top notch performances before his fall is impressive. Since his return (and during) is also impressive. The Wrestler, Sin City, Spun, Domino. Always been a fan, always will be a fan.
Barfly!!
Don't forget Iron Man 2.
Mickey Rourke lived his life, he made films that are classic, he became humbled by his mistakes and came back. Mickey is a man. Joe Rogan, Fear is not a Factor to you... what a legacy
Punny haha
Are you kidding me, Rourke is a legend. Put some respek on his name
It's nice to put respeck on everyone's name.
@@elvis316 lol
elvis316 hey! it’s “respek” not “respeck” 😝
Daniel D “put some respect on his name” is the dumbest saying ever. Made dumber by misspelling ‘respect’
If you're going to use that avatar, have some respect for our professional association and comment like the professionals we are supposed to be.
Gary Busey had the motorcycle accident and is a couple of sandwiches shy of a picnic at the moment.
'Couple sandwiches shy of a picnic ' 😂😂😂
Should watch the highlights of him on UK Big Brother.
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Drug a-busey
Gary Busey is like the Keith Richards of Hollywood
Mickey Rourke at the beginning of his film career has two scenes with William Hurt in Body Heat and he’s magnetic in the same way that Brando and James Dean were magnetic. He’s incredible in these two scenes. He’s not doing a lot of physical business. He’s not overacting or chewing up the scenery. Quite the opposite in fact. He’s simply talking to William Hurt. But by the end of these two scenes, you can see him become a movie star.
Glad somebody remembered Body Heat! Rourke stole that movie.
No doubt!
@@getoffmylawn8986 he didn’t really steal it. Come on. William Hurt was amazing as was Kathleen. great movie to this day. Although MR really did stand out, no question, was likable and so much more than a day actor, for sure definitely memorable
He stole the show in The Pledge. Mickey only had one scene, but it was extremely powerful.
I can still remember the scene with William Hurt, where Mickey is talking with Hurt about the difficulty in using a bomb and getting away with it: "Are you listening to me, asshole?" Brilliant. A well cast movie with Ted Danson as one of the cops.
In the early 90’s I had the pleasure of having a brief chat with Mickey at his bar in Miami Beach. He was the antithesis of a movie star...very unassuming and while not necessarily approachable he came across as an authentic soul.
I really liked him in harley davidson and the Marlboro man.
Yes
Dam I need to see that again.
Rumble fish was awesome as well.
Same here awesome movie 😁😀!!!!!!!!
Great movie!!!
Old or younger he's still a great actor the wrestler nearly got him the Oscar
He got robbed, they were afraid of his acceptance speech, think he won every other award that year.
Al Pacino nearly got many Oscars.
It seemed so unfair. Sean Penn was excellent in 'Milk' but it did seem like those Hollywood scumbags were paying Mickey back for his destructive behaviour at the height of his career. They have long memories.
@@Saintinthecity-wh9nl Ol` Mickie does like to burn bridges.
@@REDMAN298 Absolutely! He made so many mistakes but it would just be nice if the Academy awarded actors on their merits and not on their past behaviour!
Angel Heart is an underrated classic
5,ooo LightYears Away Haha it was way more fucked up than i thought!!
And Rumblefish..
@@georgegreig8054 thank you
"Who was the boy?!".
I know who I am!😎
Mickey was also great in Barfly.
rabble levin hell yea. Fricken drunk ass, fighting, low life poet.
A drink for all my friends
Bukowski hated the guy he felt he embarassed him with his interpretation and his behaviour off-screen.
great
He was! I have that movie with Faye Dunaway. I love all his movie
I met Mickey Rourke over 30-years ago, when he still looked normal. He was very easy to talk to, very open and honest. That was the problem... he was TOO honest. Even then he complained very vocally about the negative aspects of working in Hollywood-and of of course he was right-but he stepped on too many big toes for his own good, and it cost him dearly, sad to say. I think he was one of the greatest actors who ever lived, easily up there with Brando and Pacino.
Cost him to be true to himself ?
@@jakesmith6337
BIG TIME.
There is a group of bloodsuckers in Hollywood who want to take these stars money ---
" Go to my uncle Morty for your PR."
" See Dr Goldberg for some work on your nose. "
" You have to have use Dr Smith for your teeth caps. "
Like Meg Ryan and others. They don't care what the results are or even if you actually need the work. They just want to shove as much work to their friends as possible.
I worked for 4 years in a Beverly Hills salon....Trust me.
@@tiffsaverThat depends what you hold dear to yourself. Integrity honesty and holding to principles have more meaning to some than going against your own nature in order to be “successful”. In his eyes I don’t think he thinks he lost..
@@moleahjobe
You don't get it. He already admitted he lost, at least financially. In fact, his attitude nearly cost him his entire career, don't you know that??
Rourke in 9 1/2 Weeks was iconic!
He hasn't done any good films? Hello, 'The Wrestler'
Angel Heart is really good, ALSO rumble fish him and Matt Dillon directed by Franis Ford Coppola. Another great film.
Being born in the 90's, I discovered him in Sin City. Very good actor
Killshot has some great moments...especially the dinner scene...
Marlbro man was a great movie, the one with 2pac was good sin city. The list goes on
Sin city
Much respt for Rourke. Could have just been a Hollywood pretty boy, but loved boxing and wanted to fight. The dude had stones.
Not a lot of brains though. He sucks at fighting and should’ve known he didn’t belong.
Hmm...yea but a lot of his fights were staged later and he didn't look good in the ring. But as an actor.....whoooe....another story altogether. The best American actor after Brando along with Willem Defoe.
So you have much respect for a man who proved his manhood by disfiguring his face and getting brain damaged?
Id rather be a pretty boy with women
Boxing does not change your fuckin face it’s from surgery man
I hope Mickey Rourke comes on his show after this
It would be a trainwreck that I wouldn't be able to turn away from.
@@jessesloan1909 lmfao thats amazing
@@jessesloan1909 lol
LurkerDood that is fucking disgusting
Legit madmen street guys don't actually mix well with Hollywood which deep down Joe is
Rourke just had talent for acting
it was the plastic surgery after boxing, he started looking bad in 1996, and Year of the Dragon is awesome
Joe “I don’t care about facts” Rogan
How did his voice change?
He was getting plastic surgery before the boxing, his fights were all staged if you watch the footage, he has an addiction to surgery, hence the reason everytime you see him he has some new surgery..
Mickey's never looked bad.
.Mickey couldn't look bad.
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Sounds like he got fed up with Pedowood.
He's one of the best actor's since Brando. Incredibly talented.
No he’s not please
@@michaelking9818 he is, he just hasn't had that much good luck with what movies he chooses to be in. But his actual skill is fucking high. Even in bad movies, he's usually the best part about them. Immortals is an example. Everyone says that movie sucks, but that Rourke as the villain was the best part of the movie.
@@gamemediafan1714 He is a very good actor ,but not in the same league as Brando , I would have gone with year of the dragon ,not with Immortal which is a dreadful movie and I have never seen him do any Shakespeare which is the gold standard of acting .
@@michaelking9818 I'm making a point on how even when he's in BAD movies, his acting is on point and he's usually seen as the best part of the movie. I used Immortals as an example, because everybody that's seen it says that Rourke as King Hyperion was the best part.
@@gamemediafan1714 as I said a very good actor but as good as Brando ?
It's a popcorn movie but I loved Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man when I was a kid.
Daniel Lindy awesome movie maine
I agree. What a classic
Daniel Lindy big John Studd fight .
"Better to be dead and cool than alive and uncool."
Daniel Lindy I still love that shit lol. Always was obsessed with the soundtrack, especially when they go to rob the armored truck.
Hey, Why don't you invite Rourke for an interview? God, he is so unique. He knows how to talk. And god, what a brain!
I think you'd marry him!
Not sure Rourke would be keen to talk to a guy that called him crazy and other insulting names.
I think MR is ridiculous. He pissed his talent away.
Hell yeah!!!👍
@@edp3202 that's why he Is so damn interesting. He speaks His mind and Hollywood doesn't like it.
Loved Mickey Rourke in Barfly , great film.
I don't care how cheesy and corny it is "Harley Davidson and the Marborro Man" is one of my all time favorites lmao :D
Loved it! My brothers and I watched it often as kids.
That’s a terrible movie great bike
I thought he was great in iron man 2. His performance was hilarious and underrated
Why didn't you mention that in the podcast, Joe "I like Turtles" Rogan? 🤣
I agree with you, he did an excellent job in Ironman 2.
@@Geared84 he actually did a lot of homework prepping for the role but the producers either cut out or mitigated whatever he did to make the movie much more mainstream and marketable. If he had got his way he might have turned Whiplash into an award contending role
That was a great character! They should have expanded that role a lot more!
You should get Mickey Rourke on the podcast
Quentin Tarantino originally wanted Mickey to portray Butch in Pulp Fiction, what a perfect casting choice. Too bad he didn't play that role.
I didn't know that, I think Mickey would have done a much better job than Sugartits Willis
Tarantino, the ultimate Emperors New Clothes Director. His films are the most hyped, bull I have ever seen. I'm sure Mickey wasn't buying any of the bullshit he was selling. There's more to Mickey than a good soundtrack, well known iconic actors and mixed up gratuitous violence. He plays meaningful roles that have a story to them.
@@rasher331 You don’t think _Reservoir Dogs_ or _Pulp Fiction_ holds up?
From dialogue to how a story is revealed, Tarantino changed cinema.
Not a lot of serious film people could agree with you. There are plenty of very highly regarded films that have had violence well before Tarantino, from spaghetti westerns to the dark films of the ‘70s.
@@GloogleGloigle All his films are the same, decent soundtracks and well known faces but the effort to try and make his films original was just too much. Its all but guaranteed that you can expect him to try some over the top concept to try and buy in the audience. I just found his movies boring and the violence became tedious.
Man I'd love to see Rogan interview Rourke! The'd have such a good conversation. Feel like they'd really get one another with their respective backgrounds and dislike of Hollywood.
Why hasn't this happened yet
Saying he went crazy is disingenuous. Mickey was definitely a rebel EVEN against his own self, no doubt, but more than that… too real for Hollywood! And still, a certified legend, with classic movies and classic roles. I think he had the GOAT peak - and best natural talent - for a leading actor. And even after everything, he made his way back and delivered one of the very best performances ever in The Wrestler.
It’s as if the movie Johnny Handsome was real life for Mickey .
Yes,but inreverse!😅
“Hollywood is too fake, so I’m gonna go get my face beat up so badly that I’ll be forced to replace half of it with plastic”
Right. Because fake Hollywood would get plastic surgery for looks. An injured boxer would get it because he needs it.
Angel Heart, Year of the Dragon, DIner, Sin City, Harley Davidson and Marlboro man.... the guy is a multitalented actor.
Thank you Joe Rogan, I always liked Mickey Rourke and his movies as a kid and I feel like he never got the appreciation he deserves. Well these days JR is huge and just him talking about Rourke being a great actor makes me feel like he finally got some appreciation from the right people
Who remembers him SPUN???? Great film!!
Vishnu Alcyone yesssss the cook!
Great movie
Amazing film
Bullet was a great movie. Mickey Rourke was a badass in that film.
Bullet is a classic, I got the vhs still and I dont got no VCR
Volshebnik awesome movie
FACTS 💯
Tupac Classic
I like your pic
I still watch THE POPE OF GREENWICH VILLAGE and still gets the New Yorker in me everytime. Eric Robert's at his best with Mickey.
I watched that movie when I was 10 or so. It had a profound impact on me. First time I began to realize how difficult the world can be.
My favorite film for 33 yrs.
Roberts overacts in The Pope.
With it's name, I expected a better movie.
Try RUNAWAY TRAIN for ERIC and THE YEAR OF THE DRAGON for Mickey.
I do respect what Joe's saying. I don't think anyone has ever questioned whether or not Mickey has/had CTE. He had an impressive boxing career; he's a tough guy. I think the reason he's never been "mainstream " is because of how outspoken against Hollywood he is. Reminds me of Marlon Brando. He does seem like a genuinely nice guy despite his past troubles, and he has cleaned himself up.
There’s two different humans. Pre CIA operative Rogan and Post CIA operative Joe Rogan.
😂😂😂
Joe Rogan should have Mickey on the podcast... Mickey is a real Legend, and the most talented actor of his generation hands down.
He was real good in Sin City as well as the Wrestler.
Mickey even in small cameo parts is incredible like body heat, Buffalo 66 & the rain maker. He had the same magnetism of a James Dean. Hes so beautiful in Rumble fish
Joe 'for a lack of a better word' Rogan
Just accept getting older and do so gracefully.
Robert Dinero ,Clint Estood & Morgan freeman look greats as natural old men without the plastic surgery crap that others do to look younger
He’s amazing in multiple new films...most notably “The Wrestler”. His performance in that is incredible.
I had my first concussion at 15. I had three more in the next three years. From my 20's to my 60's, I've had ten more. I have multiple symptoms of CTE....now. The biggest for me has been....aggression, irritability, depression, and some cognition issues. I don't have memory loss....yet. Football and bicycle accidents were the leading causes, but it also includes two auto accidents, wrestling, and mountain climbing. 65 now.....
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ now 72 the way i lived my life until i was 65 created an amazing gift package....... those same traits are making these last years hell let’s all go to Sugar rock Candy Mountain
I saw Mickey Rourke box once in the 90s. He won. Dude can really box
His fights were all staged, he was terrible..
Common knowledge most were staged
@@stevebb2915 whaaaaa. I was duped!!
Who's that in the avatar pic OP? It's that River Phoenix?
@@30weekoldwomber61 80s James Spader 😎
Mickey Rourke suffered a difficult childhood that contributed to his downfall as a Hollywood actor. Trouble with authority. Gave the big shots a hard time and got a reputation for being difficult. Terrific actor. Good looking. He went back to boxing and got his ass kicked. Great actor. Not so great boxer. I respect the guy. Like his films.
Bullet with Rourke and Shakur will forever be my favourite movie. Still looking for that soundtrack on cd too!
Bullet, Marv, Wrestler.
Mickey gangsta
Mickey Rourke's best movie was Angel Heart.
Movie Nerd I think “where is my boird” was peak
I love that movie
Pope of Greenwich Village
The wrestler!!
Dont sleep on iron man
Mickey and 2pac in bullet was one of my old school favorites !
It's a classic. Lots of people never heard of it, but after they finally see it..They love it right away
The pope of Greenwich village. They took my thumb Charlie!!!
the soup is canned Charlie : (
Barfly was a great movie, totally underrated.
Year of the dragon was highly underrated, great performances and a great climax.
I see a lot of great movies mentioned here, but my favourite Mickey Rourke role was "the cook" in Spun.
Exactly! "HEY! Senòr El fucking Camino.."
hahaha... the little asses big titties speech...
Harley Davidson and the Marlboro man was my favorite!
If you watch inside the actors studio about him. Amazing !! I've been to the spot were it was the last time he saw his father and stood on that exct sewer drain. Tragic
The wrestler is one of my favorite movies. Mickey Rourke's acting capability is impressive.
Mickey Rourke is a cool dude. He was awesome in Angel Heart.
Dude just about anyone past 40 asks themselves "what happened to me" it's life bro it hits very hard no matter who the hell you are and not alot us can take it physically or mentally... Rourke doesn't look that bad even with his surgery and isn't crazy at all...eccentric to some maybe but not crazy
A freaking mn...as in AMEN... that's exactly how I see Mickey's life. My life has been a mirror image (but as a nobody of course)... at 40 +/- I was like WHAT THE F!!?? Where the hell did my life go... where the woman at... and ohhhh shit.... now I'm really a NOBODY.
VERY VERY VERY important to marry and have kids... in your 30's!!! I don't give a rat's ass how horrible it most likely will be (divorce, kids hate ya, etc)... it's better than being a Mickey or a nobody Mickey.
@@symcardnel1741 having kids and getting married for the sake of just doing that so it makes someone feel better or whole is not right, it is selfish and is the primary reason for divorces and dysfunctional kids. Start a family when you know you can handle everything that comes with it. If you cant dont, and if you dont then accept it, you still can walk, dont have any serious health issues and always have tomorrow to look forward to.
@@symcardnel1741 Its not all about women , he had a difficult childhood , he said himself he was beaten by stepfather , who was a policeman, so he had his own fears to deal with, as he told himself , he was affraid to have children with a woman in case if he has a son and divorce her , he couldnt deal to leave a child for her , if the man is abusive
I feel bad for you guys thinking that about yourselves after 40. Since I know people who are stronger and doing better in their 40s than in their 20s and 30s, but they treated their bodies and health well. I mean 40s is relatively young if you take care of yourself. Even in the 50s you can be pretty healthy and strong. My dad is 70 and runs 5 miles every day looks in his 50s. He's stronger than most people in their 20s physically and was making a ton of money all the way up until his 60s. His testosterone levels are 670 and he's never taken anything before, and him and my mother are on 0 medications between the both of them. He's never heard of TRT either. I honestly feel bad for you guys if you feel like that in your 40s, you should be pretty damn close to your prime still legitimately. Don't look at it negatively, you can always improve your outlook and where you are in life. Just wait until you're not young at all anymore, and are actually really getting old like your 60s to 70s and think about how you will feel. Mickey is on drugs man. He's almost 70 and his deterioration throughout life is not typical, he looks awful. Im not quite 40, but im in my prime still with everything. I have made improvements in my mid to late 30s as opposed to my 20s without a doubt. You guys should be getting more hot chicks around 40 just as easy as 20's. You should have more money, and even if you're not doing well with that most guys in terms of looks look best in their early 40s according to younger women. I understand a lot of this is genetics and you guys may have bad genes, but you can improve your lives and your body to where you will feel better and be doing better than you're doing now. Be confident in yourself and your abilities even if you haven't done well up until now, that can always change if you want it bad enough. Hopefully you guys are at least happy, but the sound of your post was negative. I know this is long, but i'm trying to help because the two of you sound depressed, and don't have a good outlook on life overall. Wish you guys the best, and hope things improve as you get older which it can if you take care of yourself.
Dude these are just facts, life for most alters physically and mentally after 40. Yes it is possible to become physically fitter and stronger mentally after 40 but for most people and here I emphasize for most people that isn't the case. Seeing your hair fall off, wrinkles form, developing muscular skeletal problems, becoming more susceptible to diseases you wouldn't normally get sick of for over a week with, losing your libido, having EDS, these are things that like it or not happen to alot of males in the West past their 40s.
Is it right to have a positive mindset and not be a victim to the norm? Yes sir it definitely is and recognising the problem is the first step to that.
Mickey has lived a 1000 lifetimes in as far as what most people strive for in life i.e fame and riches plus all that comes with that (good or bad) and he is what getting to 70? In my book he has had positive and negative life experiences that could fill up a ten thousand page biography written in size 5 letters.
Yes we all have our story to tell for sure, I agree and all your points are very valid, however facts are life is harsh period... I'm just pointing this out.
Steroids and getting knocked to the dome repeatedly is a deadly combination lol.
I think this guy is confusing Mickey Rourke with Gary Busey re: motorcycle head trauma.
This guy
Because joe doesn’t know what he’s talking about
@@flabio7074 could've sworn he said I may be wrong before he said it but who has time to listen when you're making a point
Obviously Rhonda will be female Ali after her lack of head movement
To be kicked by Joe Rogan’s kicks is the real Joe Rogan Experience
Year Of The Dragon was a classic and is still one of my faves.
They should make a movie about his life. In the 80s he was my favourite actor.
The Pope of Greenwich Village!
CHAAAAAAAARLIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! THEY TOOK MY THUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMB!!!!!!!!!
Mickey Rourke came back into acting and really nailed it again especially in the movie the Wrestler and of course Sin City
Sparring with James Toney.......Ihave no words for that bro. If you're not training to fight for the world championship youre crazy to spar a guy on that level Crazy. Toney is one of the hardest hitting boxer/punchers ever.
The guy who thought it was a bike accident was probably thinking of gary busy. Busy was in a motorcycle accident and not wearing a helmet and after that busy went batshit crazy.
He was nuts before that though
Mickeys best was Pope of Greenwich Village. Mickey and Eric Roberts had great chemistry.
Great movie indeed.
Mickey is badass. Old or young. From Barfly to Sin City. Love the guy
I heard someone on TV can't remember who said Sean Penn wants to be Mickey Rourke. They went on to say Sean Penn wants and pretends to be a tough guy but Mickey Rourke is a tough guy the real deal.
@@artpalombo4126 Mickey Rourke appeared in Sean Penn's movie "The Pledge"(2001). It was a brief role but he's still brilliant in it.
Joe is so damn naive and judgemental at times.
He comes up with a theory and runs with it like it’s gospel. It could just be the guy aged poorly then made it worse with bad plastic surgery now he has a tough time even making a living, that could make anyone crazy.
Angel Heart was my favorite movie for years! Mickey is just one of those guys that jump off the screen! His acting career should have
included a lot more roles! And I truly believe the man would have won an Oscar somewhere along the line!
one of the best actors of our generation - real man as well
The Mickey story is such a sad one. Some people can take huge hits and nothing much changes. Some of us get hit once and it's all over. Rourke was probably one of those one hit and you are out guys. Simply bad luck. I loved his acting. I hope he finds something to help him glide into old age in a good way. You know how it is. One day you are f-d up and the next day you are flying high. Good luck Mickey. You have suffered enough.
He had a lot of hits in his early years man check his wiki.
You got to love “Bullet”
My favorite movie he stars in. It’s where I first ran across his work.
One of the last movies where he looked normal. Already had cheek implants though i believe. But his nose, eyes and mouth were untouched.
Get Mickey on the podcast hed be super interesting to have on his insta is entertaining, also I can't believe Joe didn't mention how amazing his performance was in 'the wrestler' it related heavily to his life.
Joe "It doesn't take a genius" Rogan.
Mickey Rourke is a great actor! He also passed on Top Gun, Platoon, The Untouchables, and Rain Man...he should have at least done Platoon!!!🎬
What happened. Hmm. He was like Brando, he acted great, was bored by it, loved and hated the notoriety for something that came so easy, but always insecure and so he was self-destructive.
Joe: Talks about Plastic Surgery and Implants.
Next podcast:
Invites Whitney Cummings.
One of my favorite actors of all time,Mickey is the man!!!!
He quit Hollywood and became a boxer. Problem was he was too tough for his own good.
Have you seen any videos of his fights ? Most seem to be boat races (fixes) ! He was not a real professional and he should never taken it up . In many of his fights he AND HIS OPPONENT WERE both BOOED !! You could at one time view them but they have been removed and I can see why ! He should have stuck to acting !
Golden Globe for The Wrestler, great actor. Inside The Actors Studio with Mickey Rourke is great.
If you want to check out the quality pre-boxing acting chops of Mickey Rourke, watch "The Pope of Greenwich Village." The movie co-starred Eric Roberts as Rourke's troublesome cousin. Stylish, intense film.
And the song that opens the movie, "Summer Wind" by Frank Sinatra.
On point!
I knew almost instantly that Keenan was talking about Gary Busey , but I liked Mickey Rourke in the Wrestler"and even though he wasn't the led actor in Man on fire he did a great job in it.
The story about Mickey Rourke over the years....was that he was a jerk,his ex girlfriend clammed he beat her,he is difficult to work with,turned down a lot of projects that would have made him a really big movie star and he had a substance abuse problem. Basically,he sabotaged himself!
Basically the movie the wrestler
Didn't they she live in the sewers for awhile and turn tricks for dope? Carrie ?
So did you
A story is not the truth now is it? 🐝
@@amandadassonville4043 Mickey Rouke was offered and he turned down the script called Rocky.He also was offered Highlander and he passed on that project too.
Well, that's not true. That's what he says, but if you take a look at his cameo in the movie "The Pledge", with Jack Nicholson, AFTER his boxing career, he still looked very much like himself, albeit a bit older.
Problem is, after that he went on to have more cosmetic procedures, probably to look younger, and THAT's when he messed up his face.
He was great in Rumble Fish. Played a James Dean type figure. A very underrated film!
Mickey Rourke, at his best, in the '80's, did one great film after another: "Year of the Dragon", "The Pope of Greenwich Village" with Eric Roberts, "Diner" and "Rumblefish", both with a slew of up and coming talented actors. "Barfly", with Faye Dunaway, is one of my all-time favorite films, really funny, in an understated way, based on writings of Charles Bukowski. And then there was "Homeboy", with Christopher Walken, about a naive boxer who is being taken advantage of by others, getting paid to take dives, and later getting used as "muscle" by a low-level criminal. It may have been training for that movie that got him into boxing, that proved to be his personal downfall.
He had a terrible childhood and was never good enough for his absentee father who only saw him to get money after he blew up. I think that had a lot to do with trying to fix and possibly self sabotage his 'image'.
Barfly is a classic. If you love Bukowski, it's even better. Diner is also one of my all time favourite films. I'd never seen such wonderfully casual, realistic dialogue like that. I was 11 years old and decided to learn to write natural dialogue like that.
@thegentlelivingchannel I do really love both films along with Bukowski's writing. Then again, I'm also a fan of Burroughs and the rest of his friend's circle. They just don't make innovative people like this anymore. 😔
@@TechnicJunglist oh, they do. It took until very late in life for old Buke to be known to us. There are plenty of unknown, brilliant writers out there we just don't know about.
Mickey Rourke s abilities as an actor is at the level of Pacino, Day Lewis, Sean Penn, etc. Very few people have that talent. It s a shame his personality made it difficult for him to choose good roles
The Pope of Greenwich Village was an amazing movie.
He's great in the terrific film Diner. This was effectively his breakout role in the early 80's.