ZvT Archon Pro-Match. Serral, Reynor, Lambo and Elazer versus Clem, Kelazhur Soul and Harstem !

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  • čas přidán 11. 05. 2020
  • Link to the Terran PoV on Harstems CZcams: • ARCHON With Serral, Re...
    Here is my Point of View from the Archon match from yesterday!
    I believe that we got better with the communication throughout the games and I think we can do better in this hectic gamemode, if we play more games like these.
    I think everyone had fun playing so i hope we can play more of these in the near future : )
    If you want to catch these things happen live or want to support me make sure to check out my twitch channel at : www.twitch.tv/lamboking
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Komentáře • 139

  • @WilliamOsborneKappa
    @WilliamOsborneKappa Před 4 lety +119

    serral's constant indignation cracks me up hahaha

  • @mioenocksson3263
    @mioenocksson3263 Před 4 lety +343

    Top one player: I'll be the creep guy

  • @davidkim5462
    @davidkim5462 Před 4 lety +86

    So SERRAL was the creep guy, this explains so much after watching Lowko's casting

  • @christiandang8695
    @christiandang8695 Před 4 lety +136

    The group dynamic here is priceless and the skill level is through the roof! Please do more!

    • @Kriogenic_PixelMan
      @Kriogenic_PixelMan Před 4 lety +10

      Check out Harstems perspective, it’s pure gold

    • @guest273
      @guest273 Před 3 lety +1

      I liked Harstems perspective more. I might be biased though since in Game 1 they had 3/4 guys raising and lowering their 1st supply depot while one guy was macroing xD. They even played rock paper scissors for the 1st reaper control. xD

    • @bencheevers6693
      @bencheevers6693 Před 3 lety +1

      I respectfully disagree, these pros are all immensely talented, I don't doubt that at all, and maybe this just didn't live up to how exciting I pictured it in my head, essentially a game where the macro could be maintained to perfection while each separate and often simultaneous micro event was executed as well as could be done. I imagined both teams playing so close to their theoretical potential, without needing to switch screens or deal pull focus but it seems like they've worked against each other a lot. I wrote this comment above and I'm going to link it here. It seems to me when they're dealing with a couple troops like harassing or scouting they do fine but once they get their armies going they fight for control of them, sometimes its 2 groups of lings split between 3 people which doesn't work, what I'm trying to say is this format so could be so much more with some better cohesion and more impulse control.
      My original comment on this video:
      It's shocking to see people who are so good at this game, like a fundamental understanding of all the intricacies, who are so absurdly bad at splitting up the focus and letting each person take care of something, theoretically this could immensely boost performance compared to one person but it seems like the sum of these pros is worse than any of the individually, they work against each other so often and are all so eager to be doing something even when there isn't anything to do and they are all fighting to be the one to do whatever they perceive as the most interesting. I would love to see this format played at the top level and have amazingly cohesive teams, that would be amazing to watch but this seemed worse than watching 1v1 pros go at it. Still entertaining nonetheless.

  • @Bob96784
    @Bob96784 Před 4 lety +154

    Sometimes Serral sounds like a mad Italian or Luigi...
    22:41 "Liings, Liings, what the helle?"

    • @TIMMIAY
      @TIMMIAY Před 4 lety +5

      Hahaahahah

    • @hadriewyn
      @hadriewyn Před 3 lety +22

      He sounds more italian than Reynor lol

    • @itellyouforfree7238
      @itellyouforfree7238 Před 3 lety +2

      @@hadriewyn thats because the stereotype of italians speaking english is quite off from the reality. for instance, in family guy italians sound more spanish to me (yes, im italian). i know we make some sounds wrong, but in a different way than the stereotype

    • @peterthepeter7523
      @peterthepeter7523 Před 3 lety

      When I played RS2 on Finnish server people talking in Finnish language in voice chat sounded insanely Italian or Spanish. I guess these languages just sound similar.

  • @Qichar
    @Qichar Před 3 lety +49

    So this is what happens when you put 4 of the top Zerg players in the world onto the same team...
    You get a huge philosophical discussion about where to place the first creep tumor.

  • @HiroTeaShi
    @HiroTeaShi Před 4 lety +71

    I love how lambo was having so much fun in the 2nd game with the single ling in the terran main while all the ovies on the map were getting sniped by vikings and supply blocking the team.

  • @nsldsfv1202
    @nsldsfv1202 Před 4 lety +19

    Before matches: “ this is going to be the craziest micro ever”
    During matches: “ this is the biggest clusterfuck ever”

  • @kylelataxes1595
    @kylelataxes1595 Před 4 lety +52

    I'm only three minutes in, and I'm in tears laughing because I watched this from Harstem's perspective the other night, and one of them said something about the Zerg players theorycrafting minute things while they were goofing off and raising and lowering depots. XD I'm a Zerg player and most of my favorites are on this side, so I'm looking forward to watching it.

    • @JkaaraKoDi
      @JkaaraKoDi Před 4 lety +5

      I came here after watching Lowko's casting. This was hilarious!

    • @kylelataxes1595
      @kylelataxes1595 Před 4 lety +3

      I love Lowko. He got me into SC2 during HotS.

  • @skullcrsher4946
    @skullcrsher4946 Před 4 lety +67

    You lost the first few because they had top notch supply depot micro

  • @Probablyacowtbh
    @Probablyacowtbh Před 2 lety +4

    9:30 "this is Kevin, this is 100% harstem controlling he's losing too much" sure enough haha

  • @vladr8968
    @vladr8968 Před 4 lety +40

    Yoona got a promotion from 3 queens to the main army:" it is a really small army to play with."

  • @madumlao
    @madumlao Před 4 lety +30

    I love how the best player on the planet says he'll spread the creep, then you look at the creep and it's amazing XD

    • @lordlopikong6940
      @lordlopikong6940 Před 3 lety +9

      Serral: I'll spread the creep
      Everyone: wut?
      Serral: I'll be the creep guy

  • @peterpaulseminiano7841
    @peterpaulseminiano7841 Před 4 lety +72

    Whats better than a two man Archon? A Zerg Master Race. Its like 4 cerebrate zerg. I can even hear the Overmind screeching.

  • @cobble3231
    @cobble3231 Před 4 lety +123

    I come from harstem, and I think I'll stay a while :)

  • @Necroneer
    @Necroneer Před 4 lety +53

    Serral's voice is so beautiful

  • @oddeda
    @oddeda Před 4 lety +68

    Really epic!
    It's actually quite balanced, because The zerg team have better skill but worse communication and cooperation...

    • @mh1593
      @mh1593 Před 4 lety +15

      And one of the players (Elazer?) constantly asks "who does this?" , "who does that?", "what about this?" (etc.) rather than listening and being proactive. It was painful at times. hah

    • @couchpotatoe91
      @couchpotatoe91 Před 4 lety +32

      Tbh being proactive (aggressive) seems way easier in Archon mode than being reactive (defensive). The terrans could clearly say "I'll do the banshees/hellions" while the zergs constantly have to decide who defends what with what because they have to share their defensive forces.

    • @lordlopikong6940
      @lordlopikong6940 Před 3 lety +5

      If you watch the Terran POV their just making jokes. And in the first round 3dudes played with a supply debut.

    • @bencheevers6693
      @bencheevers6693 Před 3 lety +8

      I noticed this too, I wrote this comment on this video but I'll copy it below:
      It's shocking to see people who are so good at this game, like a fundamental understanding of all the intricacies, who are so absurdly bad at splitting up the focus and letting each person take care of something, theoretically this could immensely boost performance compared to one person but it seems like the sum of these pros is worse than any of the individually, they work against each other so often and are all so eager to be doing something even when there isn't anything to do and they are all fighting to be the one to do whatever they perceive as the most interesting. I would love to see this format played at the top level and have amazingly cohesive teams, that would be amazing to watch but this seemed worse than watching 1v1 pros go at it. Still entertaining nonetheless.

    • @j.w.213
      @j.w.213 Před 3 lety +6

      ​@@bencheevers6693 Who would have guessed that pro players from a 1v1 game don't have good teamwork...
      Also I believe it's harder to share the Zerg race.

  • @user-ys4kn1jj8k
    @user-ys4kn1jj8k Před rokem +2

    Wow, I thoroughly enjoyed the content. Plz do MORE! :D

  • @NinjaBoy606
    @NinjaBoy606 Před 4 lety +36

    Serral hella funny lmao

  • @3leg3gancer
    @3leg3gancer Před 3 lety +5

    holy shit this a tournament of this with coordinated teams would actually be amazing to watch

  • @blop26
    @blop26 Před 4 lety +6

    I saw the replay @ Lowko. Fun to first see the game with full overview @ Lowko. Then to see it from Ter side @ Harstem and from Zerg side @ Lambo

  • @PanamaPunisher
    @PanamaPunisher Před 4 lety +7

    So so so so great content! Please do more, it's the freaking best!

  • @Deifux
    @Deifux Před 4 lety +29

    This is the best thing i've ever seen lol

    • @nobod354
      @nobod354 Před 4 lety +6

      I'm telling you archon mode would make sc2 blow up if blizzard had brains

    • @ilax3071
      @ilax3071 Před 4 lety

      @@nobod354 They tried long time ago but no1 was interested, Could become a thing now but would it blowup sc2?! No, not even close, still fun though

  • @nbaumg
    @nbaumg Před 4 lety +16

    iv tried zerg archon its incredibly hard. terran is definitely the best for archon

  • @You-ul8qw
    @You-ul8qw Před 3 lety +9

    They should make a reynor annoucer pack "Don't toucha my creep!" "ok ok ok they are pushing" ect.

  • @blahblahsaurus2458
    @blahblahsaurus2458 Před 4 lety +11

    This was so fun to watch. If only you could have 400 supply, could make for truly epic games (but imba ofc)
    You're all pretty chill so you weren't arguing, but it was still pretty every-man-for-himself. I know this was just casual, but if you really want to be effective, I think someone has to be the one who gives orders in crisis situations. Not to decide everything, but while there's multi-pronged fighting I think there *has* to be one person who can say "you runby, you defend this base, you make a round of hydras", otherwise you're too slow and disjointed, and groups of units will be idling in a corner, and the right units won't get made.

    • @Kriogenic_PixelMan
      @Kriogenic_PixelMan Před 4 lety +6

      I feel like Harstems team was better organized

    • @Qichar
      @Qichar Před 3 lety +1

      @@Kriogenic_PixelMan Harstem was actually giving orders to his team, whereas this team didn't seem to have a leader.

  • @vladr8968
    @vladr8968 Před 4 lety +20

    What is better than a 3 prong attack?
    A 6 prong

  • @scifitoilet
    @scifitoilet Před 4 lety +32

    I cant tell if serral is being sarcastic or not when he says "thats the play, i copy that move" 00:02:48

    • @rosscockburn318
      @rosscockburn318 Před 4 lety +1

      I was wondering the same thing. I think he is being sincere but im not sure.

    • @pelinore2366
      @pelinore2366 Před 4 lety +16

      @@rosscockburn318 obviously sarcastic, since he continue with "next year maybe".

    • @mikerosoft1009
      @mikerosoft1009 Před 4 lety

      Was he joking about dropping a tumor near the main?

  • @paulboker8145
    @paulboker8145 Před 4 lety +6

    They are doing plays in the middle !!!! Serral is hillarious, I love it !

  • @raestlin86
    @raestlin86 Před 2 lety +2

    That was some beautiful chaos :D

  • @mariuszdziem8203
    @mariuszdziem8203 Před 4 lety +4

    Amazing! :) Please more, and win another time ;) My soul is zergy ;)

  • @The4thShrine
    @The4thShrine Před 4 lety +3

    Good shit. Very entertaining.

  • @plasticsurgeon5062
    @plasticsurgeon5062 Před 2 lety

    that was a godly cast. I have enjoyed it thoroughly

  • @boriskoslowski7176
    @boriskoslowski7176 Před 3 lety +1

    This is just the best thing!

  • @oguzcanoguz5977
    @oguzcanoguz5977 Před 4 lety +6

    9:45 He was absolutely right

  • @cman759
    @cman759 Před 10 měsíci

    Pretty cool, seemed like you guys do much better when you communicated when you were switching to drones, and to units

  • @countspyder4769
    @countspyder4769 Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve seen this from now this perspective, Harstems perspective, and Lowkos perspective, I am the ultimate observer

  • @Lunai5444
    @Lunai5444 Před 4 lety +3

    Serral is actually savage lmao, the worst is that he is actually speaking his mind not just trolling LOL

  • @d64d64
    @d64d64 Před 4 lety

    I watched Harstem's pov of this first and just knew the Z perspective would probably be pretty funny

  • @beckylikesushi
    @beckylikesushi Před rokem +1

    9:37 "this is 100% harstem controllin,g hes losing too much"
    It actually was harstem xD

  • @potosthecardinal3493
    @potosthecardinal3493 Před 4 lety

    Lol this is hilarious!! mor of this please !:D

  • @JohnDobak
    @JohnDobak Před 4 lety +7

    TIL Serral is the son of the Hydraulic Press channel guy.

  • @juliancarlson1992
    @juliancarlson1992 Před 4 lety

    What chaos, i love it.

  • @matespider
    @matespider Před 3 lety +2

    This game was like... holy shit guys Morpheus is fighting Neo!!!

  • @ricardocarballo7791
    @ricardocarballo7791 Před 3 lety

    Que buen vídeo!

  • @strongerandwiser2023
    @strongerandwiser2023 Před 2 lety

    Serrels voice is hilarious when he starts getting irate and frustrated hahaha!

  • @oharaki87
    @oharaki87 Před 3 lety +1

    Came from the Terran stream, the Zergs are their own worst enemies.

  • @bfitz2076
    @bfitz2076 Před 4 lety +2

    "that was depressing" - Serral hahahah

  • @MisterAtmos
    @MisterAtmos Před 4 lety +2

    this is comedy gold

  • @marcimarc203
    @marcimarc203 Před 2 lety

    Yoooo.
    This video is so awesome.
    Ich schreib Mal einfach in Deutsch :)
    Sowas in dem Stil könnte ich mir noch richtig competetive vorstellen so als wäre das auch in 4er Teams und jeder hat seine Rolle im Game (so wie du wärst dann der macro King, reynor Mister run-by..)
    Und dann gibt's dasselbe mit terran und protoss Playern von überall auf der Welt und dann geht die Paddy ab.
    Selbst wenn der competetive Aspekt nicht zwangsläufig so optimiert ist wäre das trotzdem in jedem Fall MEEEEEGA heftiger content. Also die Games zu gucken, so wie ihr im dritten Game miteinander gespielt habt, AAAALTER SCHWEDE das war Balsam für die Seele. Und wenn man dann noch sehen kann was sonst noch auf der map abgegangen ist aus womöglich 8 verschiedenen Perspektiven. Wie das dann alles Hand in Hand gespielt hat.. Da fetzen die Fetzen auf jeden Fall heftig durch die Gegend xd.
    Aber um nochmal auf das Video spezifisch zurück zu kommen.
    Einfach dein macro gameplay.. Hoooooooly shit alter du hattest einfach nie resourcen über, nie supply blocked. Ihr hattet immer Units wenn welche gebraucht wurden. Sie standen immer an den Orten an denen sie gebraucht wurden. Ready um abgeholt zu werden.
    Ich hab halt gemerkt wenn ihr einfach miteinander gespielt habt und keiner sich beschwert hat ging das Game richtig locker von der Hand.
    Ich hab btw ne Frage. Also ich zocke jetzt seit nem Monat starcraft dementsprechend wüsste ich jetzt nicht spezifisch warum das nicht geklappt hätte aber wäre es in dem letzten Game nicht nice gewesen auf Hydra Lurker zu gehen und dann später noch Viper. Da die map ja ziemlich schmale Gänge überall hat könntet ihr dann einfach eure bases zu lebenden verteidigungs Einheiten mutieren lassen und gleichzeitig eine Wand auf creep in die gegnerische Base rein fahren.
    Wie gesagt keine Ahnung warum das nicht gehen würde aber in meinem Kopf sah das mega gut aus. Für mich sah es so aus als hatten die mutas nicht so den Impact gehabt wie nötig gewesen wäre (was nicht heißen soll die waren nicht gut gemicroed, absolut nicht). In dem Video kommt natürlich nicht euer Gespräch von danach vor, also weiß ich nicht ob ihr darüber gesprochen habt oder nicht.
    Falls du effektiv alles gelesen hast.
    Danke fürs durchlesen :)
    Liebe Grüße
    atoilet

  • @raevar9779
    @raevar9779 Před 4 lety +1

    34:30 The poor Zergling :(

  • @aggressivemining868
    @aggressivemining868 Před 3 lety +2

    Its so cool how all the top EU players are tight as hell

  • @wookibert9620
    @wookibert9620 Před 4 lety +7

    8:35 itsa me mario accent hitting hard

  • @hujahuja
    @hujahuja Před 3 lety +5

    14:20 perfectly sniped

  • @canodo6817
    @canodo6817 Před 4 lety +1

    gg

  • @zsclordbarfu8967
    @zsclordbarfu8967 Před 3 lety

    cool das du sowas machst

  • @PhilosophyXGamer
    @PhilosophyXGamer Před 3 lety +1

    MOOOTASSE

  • @ganonk79
    @ganonk79 Před 4 lety +4

    I want to see a Serral versus Clem, Kelazhur, Soul and Harstem match.

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  Před 4 lety +18

      I played a practice game together with soul as terran archon versus serral and we won relatively easily. You can't realistically deal with a Terran archon as a single zerg.

    • @ganonk79
      @ganonk79 Před 4 lety

      @@LamboSC2 In a rematch, what would you guys do differently? Or did it come down to the (relatively) poor communication at the beginning?

  • @farixromero517
    @farixromero517 Před 4 lety

    U ARE THE BEST

  • @mareksicinski3726
    @mareksicinski3726 Před 4 lety +1

    18:52 it was diego on both lambro

  • @nandrexdura
    @nandrexdura Před 4 lety +1

    This group is the funniest.. so hard to manage zerg archon

  • @Niyanyo
    @Niyanyo Před 4 lety +2

    Oh sweaty balls!! 00:42:53

  • @You-ul8qw
    @You-ul8qw Před 3 lety +2

    You should try doing an archon match vs alphastar

  • @boriskoslowski7176
    @boriskoslowski7176 Před 3 lety +1

    Heeeliooons!!!

  • @speedfastman
    @speedfastman Před 4 lety +1

    Upload casts and ladder games like Harstem.

  • @teacherwayne6680
    @teacherwayne6680 Před 3 lety

    i like the way Reynoy backchats serral lol

  • @itzradianttv7536
    @itzradianttv7536 Před 4 lety +1

    subbed :)

  • @user-zg6zc2zx4s
    @user-zg6zc2zx4s Před 3 lety +1

    Was it special offering extra hands? The voice it sounds like special

  • @Unbiased321
    @Unbiased321 Před 2 lety

    Call Artosis and hatless and get them to cast one of these =D

  • @carrotbringer7194
    @carrotbringer7194 Před 3 lety

    Die Mauer is actually showtime I think

  • @PhilosophyXGamer
    @PhilosophyXGamer Před 3 lety

    ''Dont worry im the queen''

  • @alexanderblommaert9519

    DieMauer = Showtime right? cuz they say reynor to DieMauer... explain pls :p

    • @jvzn
      @jvzn Před 4 lety +5

      Showtime is Die Mauer, but he's not playing here. Reynor is using an account named DieMauer.

  • @calculatedmasochism7058
    @calculatedmasochism7058 Před 3 lety +1

    13:46 lmao

  • @MrSAv1Or
    @MrSAv1Or Před 3 lety

    terran team have good teamplay. zerg its panic mode :D

  • @bencekovacs8726
    @bencekovacs8726 Před 4 lety

    Which voice is whoo? Who's the indian sounding guy? I guess i heard an italian accent that was Reynor i suppose

    • @bencekovacs8726
      @bencekovacs8726 Před 4 lety

      @Qimodis Yeah it was him I'd have never guessed that :D

  • @drtony1000
    @drtony1000 Před 4 lety +3

    Man zerg is a lot stronger when more people can scout with the opening lings and terran is a lot stronger when they have multiple people controlling multiprong harass.

  • @primal9238
    @primal9238 Před 3 lety

    It's funny, it almost actually seems like they're doing decent from this perspective. Other views and they got stomped first game.

  • @EvilSmonker
    @EvilSmonker Před 3 lety +1

    19:30 top zerg finally said it, hope some salty terrans stumble unto this lol.

  • @alexanderminogue157
    @alexanderminogue157 Před 4 lety

    I dont understand why the best player on the team was being blown off for the first 2 rounds of the game. Maybe I just dont know group dynamics but...

  • @calebchin6597
    @calebchin6597 Před 4 lety

    serral voice funny lmao

  • @Cossaw
    @Cossaw Před 4 lety

    Serral is funny as fuck hahaha

  • @kildatboy
    @kildatboy Před 4 lety

    Do T v P archon next time.

  • @slipperyjohn3144
    @slipperyjohn3144 Před 4 lety +1

    1v1v1 3 man archon with special

  • @BenGrimm977
    @BenGrimm977 Před 4 lety +3

    Mootas

  • @matespider
    @matespider Před 3 lety

    4 people playing the Zerg? This is the way. 😄
    True Overmind. Guess no one would ever beat you in tournament by playing solo.

  • @bencheevers6693
    @bencheevers6693 Před 3 lety

    It's shocking to see people who are so good at this game, like a fundamental understanding of all the intricacies, who are so absurdly bad at splitting up the focus and letting each person take care of something, theoretically this could immensely boost performance compared to one person but it seems like the sum of these pros is worse than any of the individually, they work against each other so often and are all so eager to be doing something even when there isn't anything to do and they are all fighting to be the one to do whatever they perceive as the most interesting. I would love to see this format played at the top level and have amazingly cohesive teams, that would be amazing to watch but this seemed worse than watching 1v1 pros go at it. Still entertaining nonetheless.

    • @Qichar
      @Qichar Před 3 lety

      This looked like they just threw it together for fun. If they were really trying they would plan more ahead of time and one person would lead and give orders. If you watch the Harstem stream for this same game, you can hear Harstem providing leadership and it makes a HUGE difference:
      czcams.com/video/8GPupD6wP_o/video.html
      The problem with this Zerg team is obviously that nobody is in charge and thinking about the top level strategy.

    • @bencheevers6693
      @bencheevers6693 Před 3 lety

      @@Qichar I watch all of Harstem's content, he's a wizard and really entertaining, you're exactly right that the difference was night and day compared to the Zerg who got dumpstered.

    • @oldoddjobs
      @oldoddjobs Před 10 měsíci

      Obviously dividing up the tasks to 4 individuals who have less gamestate information by design is weakening.

    • @bencheevers6693
      @bencheevers6693 Před 10 měsíci

      @@oldoddjobs They all have the same information, they have even more information than is available to a single player because they can fully focus on their task while periodically glancing at the map rather than having their attention divided all over the place, I think they were playing silly for fun rather than actually giving it a solid try.

  • @scarredable
    @scarredable Před 4 lety +4

    Archon mode is a quite unexplored zone of Starcraft 2. Also this, more or less, confirms the theory Terran is the best race.

    • @WilliamOsborneKappa
      @WilliamOsborneKappa Před 4 lety +2

      or certainly that it has the greatest potential to pressure other races by far

    • @mh1593
      @mh1593 Před 4 lety +6

      nah, it's all based on the teamwork and co-op skills of the players.

    • @BaufenBeast
      @BaufenBeast Před 4 lety +1

      @@WilliamOsborneKappa It might depend on how many players as well. Adding players to Terran gives you more simultaneous drops, but there's only so much you can split up mutas while keeping them potent. Zerg would benefit a lot from a guy full-time on muta control.

  • @Cannonbo
    @Cannonbo Před 4 lety +1

    for a race that is supposed to have a hive mind there's quite the communication problem
    i'm going back to Haarstem pov. it was less frustrating :)

  • @heliaxx
    @heliaxx Před 4 lety

    playing banes against an enemy that can micro a lot is terrible, imo

  • @liampett1313
    @liampett1313 Před 4 lety

    imagine roasting the best player in the world for bad macro lol

  • @aaronl6284
    @aaronl6284 Před 4 lety

    Bist du nich Deutscher?

  • @TheQsanity
    @TheQsanity Před 4 lety

    Zerg gameplay is too quick for Archon mode. Too many quick decision, hit, hit, pulls. Verbalizing is too slow for that. Usually, Zerg units are more expendable in exchange for the other player's time and attention or reasonable trades. At least that's how I play Zerg.

  • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
    @AntiDoctor-cx2jd Před 9 měsíci

    haven't watched yet. My guess is terran benefits more from archon because they are more underperforming their race than zerg, who is already maxing out what the race can do.