Should you be Aggressive or Defensive in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?

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  • čas přidán 2. 02. 2024
  • What's the best strategy in Mario Kart? Should you play aggressively and try to hit other racers with your shells and items? Or should you play defensively and try to avoid getting hit? Today I test out both play styles, to see the pros and cons of attacking and defending!
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    Combos used:
    Bowser / Donkey Kong
    Mr. Scooty
    Roller Tires
    Paper Glider
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Komentáře • 517

  • @HarryB208
    @HarryB208 Před 3 měsíci +241

    Nice video buddy

  • @thisismalachi
    @thisismalachi Před 3 měsíci +1215

    shortcat woke up today and couldn't decide between violence and peace

    • @LiamSFG405
      @LiamSFG405 Před 3 měsíci +27

      Will be tough to beat this comment

    • @anto8722
      @anto8722 Před 3 měsíci +7

      That’s actually really funny lol

    • @FootBallFan4085
      @FootBallFan4085 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Ama sub to u @thisismalachi

    • @pixel_fan1
      @pixel_fan1 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@FootBallFan4085 No

    • @kellyhowe7272
      @kellyhowe7272 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I will add on to this
      Shortcat woke up today and couldn’t decide between violence and peace so he just chose both

  • @PlatinumComet
    @PlatinumComet Před 3 měsíci +244

    "I'm ready to cause some chaos" followed with a picture of Bowser rolling in on a scooter is the funniest mental image ever.

  • @slimeblitz32
    @slimeblitz32 Před 3 měsíci +495

    Bowser looks like an adult riding a kids bike
    AMazing

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 3 měsíci +156

      Rule #1 of mario kart 8 deluxe: it's not a good combo unless it looks goofy

    • @armandoromero2053
      @armandoromero2053 Před 3 měsíci

      I mean he’s got a point

    • @Minetendo_Fan
      @Minetendo_Fan Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@Shortcat321the only reason Yoshi teddy is the best combo is because it looks good

    • @nikolaibeckel1071
      @nikolaibeckel1071 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Haha, that could also align with the aggression, as he stole the kid's bike

    • @Xris10BUL
      @Xris10BUL Před měsícem

      Dry bowser pipe frame is rly funny to me and I have no idea why

  • @whiptonguebulborb
    @whiptonguebulborb Před 3 měsíci +443

    Truly the best stat: the attack stat

    • @laserfoxpro
      @laserfoxpro Před 3 měsíci +16

      you’re wrong, the most important stat is the traction stat, i know because in trackmania the fastest surface is the one with the most grip

    • @13Graham
      @13Graham Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@laserfoxpro Mariokart ≠ Trackmania

    • @vantropix
      @vantropix Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@13Graham you don't say

    • @Ufo3208_
      @Ufo3208_ Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@laserfoxpro Naw its the luck stat

    • @Wizdabest1
      @Wizdabest1 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Idk about that, crit damage and crit rate are pretty important stats

  • @gamkht
    @gamkht Před 3 měsíci +117

    16:35 and 18:17, Shortcat's split personalities working together

  • @zyble
    @zyble Před 3 měsíci +265

    18:57 I think this is the first time I've ever seen shortcat happy to see the pirana plant item lol.
    Love the "Fuck it we ball" eenrgy of Attacking shortcat, really cool to see how down to the wire it was too! Thanks for the video :)

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 3 měsíci +70

      The piranha plant feels bad to get sometimes because it takes so long to use, and you might need your next item to block a red shell or take a shortcut. But sometimes it's one of the best ones you can get!

    • @godzillafirefox923
      @godzillafirefox923 Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@@Shortcat321will u do a qna at 300k??

  • @musa4539
    @musa4539 Před 3 měsíci +31

    The cartoony "bonk" sound effect you use whenever you get bumped is so funny every single time

  • @agentshibe
    @agentshibe Před 3 měsíci +43

    That slow-mo lore shot of bowser attacking his own child is crazy 😭

  • @lordiconix
    @lordiconix Před 3 měsíci +150

    You've gotten better at talking to the audience and playing! Congrats

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 3 měsíci +24

      Thank you!! Always trying to be better!

  • @williamlatham8185
    @williamlatham8185 Před 3 měsíci +83

    On thr dk summit race, i think i know what the problem was with the shortcut. I usually use a higher speed combo like the bowser one and it happens to me a lot. Your speed is really high with the combo that you completely skip the second ramp or (if you take it the safe way) you hit the small bit of wall and completely mess it up. Hope this helps :)

  • @kfv4
    @kfv4 Před 3 měsíci +239

    This is my new favorite video yet!!!

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 3 měsíci +201

      This comment section is pay to win

    • @ilovepotstickers
      @ilovepotstickers Před 3 měsíci +21

      @@Shortcat321Shortcat pls jperm collab

    • @zek2234
      @zek2234 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@ilovepotstickershe cant collab with himself

    • @kfv4
      @kfv4 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Shortcat321well if you admit that you are jperm, I will drop a 50.

    • @kfv4
      @kfv4 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Shortcat321let's gooooo 🎉

  • @Jessejse
    @Jessejse Před měsícem +10

    20:27
    “Im gonna throw this were no one can get hit by it”
    *proceeds to get hit by it*

  • @GRsavedmylife
    @GRsavedmylife Před 3 měsíci +42

    Shortcat, your vids have a blend of calmness, genuinely useful information, and internet funnyman that tickles my brain in just the right way. Thank you for being you

  • @patrickbaker7014
    @patrickbaker7014 Před 3 měsíci +12

    13:56 I would argue that triple redding first on madrid drive wasn't the correct play, depending on your definitions/interpretations. I would assume that defensive = "item strategy which always minimises the chance of you getting hit", and aggressive = "item strategy which always maximises the chance of opponents getting hit".
    By keeping the reds, you keep a triple defensive item, which you likely wouldn't match in your next item box pull since you were in second. This maximises your defensive capabilities, especially considering first posed no threat to you (and you had no blue shell defence), so there was no potential net defensive gain by hitting first (eg throwing a boomerang to destroy triple shells would be a net defensive gain, since it minimises your overall chance of being hit by something (This also helps differentiate from a pacifist strategy, as tossing items to chain and taking out large threats now become reasonable)).
    Of course throwing the shells is absolutely the reasonable play given both first's position, and the low risk since no one else would have items because of the shock; which I think highlights that in ideal item strategy, both offensive and defensive (though mainly defensive realistically) can be ideal based on your current game environment.
    (btw this isnt a critique at all i loved the video, just an interesting thought)

  • @rieyyan9039
    @rieyyan9039 Před 3 měsíci +113

    Their goes your item there goes your race
    *not even 2 seconds later*
    Green shell: *HELO*

  • @blobmaestro
    @blobmaestro Před 3 měsíci +33

    17:25 "Not going out of my way to back green shells and drop bananas where it would probably hit someone." *Just dropped a banana at the item box and proceeds to back green shell."

  • @untitled_unmastered
    @untitled_unmastered Před 3 měsíci +18

    20:10 “But this makes sense … fire under water” lol

    • @13Graham
      @13Graham Před 3 měsíci +5

      It's hydrophobic fire

    • @jeremyabbott4537
      @jeremyabbott4537 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@13Graham how do you know the water isn't pyrophobic? 🤔

    • @ShuckleShellAnemia
      @ShuckleShellAnemia Před 14 dny

      Wotah in de fiyah, WHY? Wotah in de fiyah, WHYYY?!??

  • @fapkner
    @fapkner Před 3 měsíci +4

    i think the best thing about your videos is that you know so much about the game and you present the information very well, and without a "holier than thou" tone so it doesn't feel like you're talking down to a viewer for not knowing certain things

  • @Crimsonpirate425
    @Crimsonpirate425 Před 3 měsíci +30

    I know it’s probably more optimal to play aggressive in lower positions and defensive when in the lead but I always have this itch to play very aggressively even in 1st as I like setting traps for 2nd with bananas, back spamming or trailing people with shells and I have access to the double item boxes to chain with.
    Backspam is something I practically had to get good with since I’m an inward main in lobbies with Yoshi’s everywhere so I gotta take advantage of the rear view mirror, all hail inward rear view making it easy to back spam

    • @retlaW-Rock
      @retlaW-Rock Před 3 měsíci +4

      Backspamming at the finish line is toxic but funny at the same time right

    • @victoryuji7522
      @victoryuji7522 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@retlaW-Rockfr i do that all the time in mario kart wii

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 3 měsíci +13

      In mario kart wii, it's much safer to play aggressively from 1st place because red shells are not as deadly!

  • @Koulouras
    @Koulouras Před 3 měsíci +25

    You know its a good day when shortcat uploads

  • @lucienoskova2658
    @lucienoskova2658 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Your videos just keep getting better and better!

  • @SkyPachini
    @SkyPachini Před 3 měsíci +4

    I just recently got mario kart and after finding this channel I immediately subscribed, I love your content!

  • @mattb6522
    @mattb6522 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Good races! When I was a kid, it was all about constant attacking with items! I always threw items away. As a more experienced Mario Karter, I have learned you need a mix of both, but I usually tend to play a bit more on the defensive side. You just have to know when to protect and when to be a little more aggressive when it comes down to the wire.

  • @_niyabella
    @_niyabella Před 3 měsíci

    Love that you discuss the more technical aspects of the game. Definitely improved a bunch from watching, thank you for all you do!

  • @Andrew-vj3yr
    @Andrew-vj3yr Před 3 měsíci

    Been waiting for a video where you are aggressive and attack more! Good stuff!

  • @Lockerus
    @Lockerus Před 3 měsíci +22

    The best path to victory I've found is to only play with people worse than myself. To quote Principal Skinner, "up yours, children!".

  • @TP39_vgmusic
    @TP39_vgmusic Před 3 měsíci +3

    You were talking about grey areas with what considered aggressive and defensive. My personal definition is aggression is using items to gain positions, defense is using items to maintain your current position. Boomeranging the guy with triple greens before they trail you? Defensive. Triple redding first place? Aggressive.

  • @brykmcginns
    @brykmcginns Před 3 měsíci +3

    I love the audible click of the controller

  • @Coffee3553
    @Coffee3553 Před 3 měsíci

    every shortcat mk8 vid that comes out im always revved to see them, really enjoying them, keep it up :D

  • @oxlynz7328
    @oxlynz7328 Před 3 měsíci

    Always happy to see a new Shortcat vid, and I've only really played Mario Kart DS back in the day

  • @Jedtheabsolutelad
    @Jedtheabsolutelad Před 3 měsíci +3

    Love your vids shortcat, even if you uploaded a video with no set theme we would still find it entertaining!! Keep up the grind💪

  • @euanberesford9974
    @euanberesford9974 Před 3 měsíci

    Of course another great video. I thought this challenge was creative and really interesting and entertaining. Keep it up!!

  • @chrismorgan8911
    @chrismorgan8911 Před 3 měsíci +8

    19:08 Shortcat: Go Go Go *hits Funky Kong with Pirana Plant* this doesn't feel right, I'm so sorry
    19:25 Shortcat: I'm so sorry Funky Kong
    Shortcat apologizing for attacking Funky Kong while he was attacking Shortcat almost every race prior to that

  • @BlueThunderO7
    @BlueThunderO7 Před 3 měsíci

    These informative videos are one of the reasons why I'm subbed to you, Shortcat.

  • @MilesGonzaloMorales.
    @MilesGonzaloMorales. Před 3 měsíci

    omg I've been waiting for you to upload i love shortcat

  • @RemyWillard
    @RemyWillard Před 3 měsíci +4

    24:30
    I miss when the Koopalings were widely accepted as Bowser's children, but Nintendo decided to retcon that and make Bowser Jr., who's not even a Koopaling, be Bowser's only child.
    As for their ages, I don't know if it was ever determined beyond Larry being the youngest and Ludwig being the oldest, but if we base it on Super Mario Bros. 3 going from youngest to oldest, which does keep Larry as the youngest and Ludwig as the oldest, then Iggy would indeed be the 4th oldest. And the 4th youngest too, as there are 7 Koopalings.
    28:07
    Peak commentary. I only have one thing to add.
    " Fiyah in the watah... *WHY?!?* "

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 3 měsíci +2

      They're still Koopa's kids. He's just a deadbeat dad.

  • @soup3ppee
    @soup3ppee Před 3 měsíci +3

    always so fun to watch shortcat be an absolutely menace on the racecourse

  • @Galaxy_1432
    @Galaxy_1432 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Before watching the video- I’m assuming the final results are gonna be smth like “it’s completely situational, you can’t stick to one playstyle and always expect to win” I’ll come back after I finish the vid

  • @Mandotransformers.
    @Mandotransformers. Před 3 měsíci +8

    I love shortcat vids!😊

  • @Positivity4ever
    @Positivity4ever Před 3 měsíci

    YES I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
    I've always wanted to watch a video where you constantly just attack everyone the moment you get an item

  • @pankeque284
    @pankeque284 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Can't wait for the Shortcat short explaining what happened at 9:59
    (tbh I just need more shortcat content in my life)

  • @jayschoenherr9911
    @jayschoenherr9911 Před měsícem +1

    This video was awesome thank you

  • @ItzLarry_
    @ItzLarry_ Před 3 měsíci +5

    by far the best mario kart 8 deluxe content creators ever, your content is always so fun to watch as you explain everything so well!

  • @Diancie7246
    @Diancie7246 Před 3 měsíci

    Shortcat is back! With amazing vids! We want that funny 1v1 videos

  • @sakuyaizayoi9235
    @sakuyaizayoi9235 Před 3 měsíci

    Always love a new shortcat video

  • @brownbuns3445
    @brownbuns3445 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shortcat, now that you’ve improved so much at bagging, could you give the fastest combo another try for the memes?
    Love your stuff btw❤

  • @VHMA4LIFE
    @VHMA4LIFE Před 3 měsíci

    Hi shortcat love your vids keep up the good work

  • @henrydaniels4647
    @henrydaniels4647 Před 3 měsíci

    I naturally use items for attack, but I've been more defensive since watching your videos. Knowing what strategy to use has improved my win/loss ratio. Thanks budd!

  • @michaelromo3407
    @michaelromo3407 Před 3 měsíci

    awesome video! next time you should do front running vs bagging!!!

  • @sophiam6692
    @sophiam6692 Před 3 měsíci

    Shorcat you made me love Mario kart and you taught me a lot

  • @user-ox6zx4eo5t
    @user-ox6zx4eo5t Před 3 měsíci

    Shortcat, You are just the best. 👍great video

  • @TrulyXenon
    @TrulyXenon Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shortcat literally slowing down to hit someone with a star only to miss them has got to be the funniest thing 😂

  • @nathanh2523
    @nathanh2523 Před 3 měsíci

    always worth the wait

  • @Sebboebbo
    @Sebboebbo Před 3 měsíci +2

    Da king is back baby he neva miss

  • @mariuschampagnat
    @mariuschampagnat Před 3 měsíci

    Really good vidéo! Also would it be intresting to play without the map? I don't know imo it would be a cool video

  • @BOMBER_PRO
    @BOMBER_PRO Před 3 měsíci

    Next, you should make a part two of this video playing how you normally would. So not just attacking or just defending but the hybrid style you would typically race with. And one where you play passively and don’t use items at all. I would love to see the final comparison of them all.

  • @Girlilla-n-4eyes
    @Girlilla-n-4eyes Před 29 dny

    30:51 I didn’t know that what my day was missing was Shortcat singing a High School Musical song while playing as a gorilla on a tiny scooter, but my day is now complete

  • @kingkoller1503
    @kingkoller1503 Před 3 měsíci

    Hey man, thanks to you i learned the 3x3 and got into cubing :))

  • @kamranhussain2210
    @kamranhussain2210 Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing content as usual.
    I’m not a bot, I just genuinely want to share these thoughts with you.

  • @Firestar4041
    @Firestar4041 Před měsícem +1

    Odd theming quirk of Bowser and DK this helped me pick up on;
    Going aggressive, with the giant hostile turtle man, that has defensive super armor in almost every game iteration he has
    And going defensive, with the very ready to throw hands, aggressive monkey, who often times never has a shield ready

  • @tally_ish
    @tally_ish Před 2 měsíci

    Can you make a vid analyzing the pros and cons of each and examples of when we’d want to play each strategy? This is a great vid and I feel like a more in-depth one would be helpful for newer players or aspiring comp players :)c

  • @Hallaaballaaa
    @Hallaaballaaa Před 3 měsíci +3

    You’re the best mk8dx youtuber

  • @Ztama12
    @Ztama12 Před 3 měsíci +1

    20:27 "so we're gonna throw this where no one can get hit by it." Proceeds to run into own banana

  • @psychoticape424
    @psychoticape424 Před 3 měsíci +2

    awesome

  • @alexandrepr5534
    @alexandrepr5534 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You should have done a third where you play "normal", which is a mix of both defence and offence depending on the situation :)

  • @KamawnTH
    @KamawnTH Před 3 měsíci +2

    Not only is this cat short, but it's also now contemplating between chaos and order.

  • @adierez1154
    @adierez1154 Před 3 měsíci

    From today I am only defence in MK8D❤❤❤BTW thank you so much on these videos ❤❤❤

  • @-xcelsior-
    @-xcelsior- Před 3 měsíci

    I think tossing those triple red shells was actually playing aggressive, not defensive. Given the position you're in, triple reds (or any revolving item besides mushrooms) is the best defense item. Chaining it into a box will almost certainly take out the person ahead of you, but the item you get will likely be worse for defense than a triple revolving. Playing defensive means playing with a lean towards keeping your items as defense rather than tossing them to attack as well as accumulating all the best defense items, so throwing away triple reds is really playing more offensive than defensive.
    Either way, I really love these comparison/challenge videos and would like to see more like these in the future! Keep up the great work!

  • @johannesli4184
    @johannesli4184 Před 3 měsíci

    Nice Video! Question concering attack😂: What would you say is the best combo when you play with furious items?

  • @bonthecuber
    @bonthecuber Před 3 měsíci

    I love as shortcat slowly goes from loving to hating attacking

  • @Xylax.
    @Xylax. Před 3 měsíci

    Just another goated video

  • @XxXStoneFingerXxX
    @XxXStoneFingerXxX Před 3 měsíci +1

    30:50 kongs in sync and then the trick off the glider xD

  • @Bayzer0191
    @Bayzer0191 Před 3 měsíci +1

    If you ever do a sequel/part 2 to this, maybe run Inside Drift during attack mode? The Inside Drift Bikes excel at trailing and sniping. It would make item play even *more* nasty. 😈

  • @iainandnegarmackie2884
    @iainandnegarmackie2884 Před 3 měsíci

    Shortcat's videos are amazing

  • @Onceuh
    @Onceuh Před 3 měsíci

    Ik it’s gonna be a good day when Shortcat posts

  • @maccook9951
    @maccook9951 Před 2 měsíci

    Dk scooty has been my main for many years as a 200cc only player. So satisfying to see how consistent it is

  • @WaddleMoogle
    @WaddleMoogle Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Shortcat! I have a question: do/did you play other kart racing games like Crash, Sonic, or Chocobo, and how do you feel they compare to Mario Kart proper?
    I personally have a lot of nostalgia for Bomberman Fantasy Race on the PS1 though I haven't played it in more than a decade it might be rougher that I remember it.

  • @v4n1ty92
    @v4n1ty92 Před 3 měsíci

    This is about what I expected. Attacking is very much high risk, high reward, while defense is a lot more consistent at getting around a top 5 placement. Obviously nothing is a 100% rule in this game cause you can play perfectly and still get screwed, but still a good experiment and entertaining video!

  • @Bryan.Hernandez
    @Bryan.Hernandez Před 3 měsíci

    Shortcat has such a positive impact in this world. Shout out to him

  • @nicoelpro996
    @nicoelpro996 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I learned cubing from you, and now I learn mariokart from you

  • @coffinflop
    @coffinflop Před 3 měsíci

    the "fourth oldest son" editing was so funny. quite literally lol-ed

  • @katefarce6213
    @katefarce6213 Před 3 měsíci

    The vine boom shock is soooo funny 😂

  • @epiccake7781
    @epiccake7781 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think it’d be cool if you did a challenge where you have to use any item you get instantly. No item strategy allowed 👀

  • @A4Funcool2022
    @A4Funcool2022 Před 3 měsíci

    Yay Bowser and Donkey Kong on mr scooty i love it

  • @ianzhou7010
    @ianzhou7010 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Video idea:
    Play with friends but disable all items except the blue shell.

  • @Crappy_videos786
    @Crappy_videos786 Před 3 měsíci +1

    you should do a challenge were you can't take shortcuts in a race

  • @boogiebear3095
    @boogiebear3095 Před 3 měsíci

    I love that you’re using the heavy weights in this one

  • @callsomehelp
    @callsomehelp Před 3 měsíci +4

    nice

  • @MP39
    @MP39 Před 3 měsíci

    that mushroom at the end was insane

  • @horserax
    @horserax Před 3 měsíci

    I think what this really proves is that its best to switch between the two based on circumstance. Given how close the two where, and there were clearly times when Attack was working and Attack wasnt working.

  • @NoahGray-zk5sk
    @NoahGray-zk5sk Před 3 měsíci

    Question for you shortcat, when is the pro guide coming, bc im on my schools e-sports team, and i want to make sure im ready (we're playing mk8dx btw)

  • @Lio_Zx
    @Lio_Zx Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Shortcat!
    I’m a big fan
    I have a question, How the drafts work?

    • @laserfoxpro
      @laserfoxpro Před 3 měsíci

      you just stay behind someone else for a bit of time and you get a speed boost

  • @ClanDomino
    @ClanDomino Před 3 měsíci

    You should totally do a video on the all gold Mario combo and trying to win with it

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Here’s a quirky idea: Try to win with the WII U Mario Kart 8 meta combo (Morton, Blue Falcon, Cyber Slick Tyres, Gold glider)

  • @mahmoudrayaneelhajji
    @mahmoudrayaneelhajji Před 3 měsíci

    Damn i really liked this vid. Even tho defense won,i still think attack is better bc its just waaaay more fun.

  • @ASMRleah
    @ASMRleah Před 3 měsíci

    BABE WAKE UP SHORTCAT POSTED A NEW VIDEO

  • @onebear6504
    @onebear6504 Před 3 měsíci

    I long to see the day of a "I chose violence" video starring Bowser Cat

  • @Hallaaballaaa
    @Hallaaballaaa Před 3 měsíci +2

    Can you make a video on how to dodge a red shell with a mushroom

  • @marcossideaccount
    @marcossideaccount Před 3 měsíci

    BABE WAKE UP SHORTCAT UPLOADED