Things They DON'T Teach You About The Korean War
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- Ever heard of the Korean War? It's like this forgotten chapter in the history books, but let me tell you, it's one heck of a story.
From 1950 to 1953, things got real hot as both sides of the Iron Curtain duked it out over control of the Korean peninsula.
Sure, it doesn't get as much spotlight as World War II or Vietnam, but trust me, it's packed with some seriously overlooked facts that'll blow your mind….
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one unit was segregated during the korean war the 65th infantry regiment was all hispanic and made up of mostly puerto ricans
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MacArthur: Nuke em!
Truman: No!
MacArthur: NUKE EM!
Truman: NO!
MacArthur: AH COME ON!
Truman: You’re fired
Ah yes a real man of culture
@@frankrizzo4460Sorry about your dad but using the nuke would have been a horrendous decision.
🇺🇸🎖️🪖🫡✝️🕊️☮️
@@frankrizzo4460 Absolutely agree.
That pretty much sums it up about MacArthur and Truman
In the German speaking world, the Korean war is surprisingly not as forgotten as it might have been in the US, as far as I can tell. This may be to the fact that the outbreak of hostilities on the Korean peninsula showed people in the divided Germany, especially West-Germany, how quickly things could escalate, so this hastened the rearmament of the only recently reestablished armed forces in West-Germany.
Germany has had an elevated interest in Korea since '53 because they were the other divided nation in the Cold War.
Thus, any development in Korea could be seen as a potential precedent for the fate of Germany.
However, given the very different circumstances of division, this did not ultimately play out that way.
The GDR just kinda keeled over from '89 to '91 and got absorbed, with no shots fired and nothing worse than a large corruption scandal in terms of violence.
In a way, this is likely a foreshadowing of what will inevitably happen when the Juche regime fails, but also a roadmap for North Korea as to what must be avoided.
Any information from the South must be supressed, as little contact as possible, only state-controlled media.
No reunification movement, however peaceful, can be tolerated and the reins can never be loosened so as to not invite revolt.
This, however, implies the necessary conditions for North Korea to fall: Support from China drying up is the one thing that will surely destroy the satellite state. As soon as they do not have a backer in Beijing for any reason, their power is in jeopardy. Right now, maybe Russia will step in. But given projections for the war in Ukraine, this seems unlikely to be a useful deterrent much longer. From that moment onwards, it is almost certain that North Korea will be infiltrated and undermined to facilitate the downfall of the Kim regime and the reunification by South Korea. Which should absolutely happen under UN oversight to prevent a second Treuhand or Shock Doctrine. Although, it seems inevitable that most of North Korea's assets will be nigh-worthless as they are severely outdated or simply too old.
It showed them that the U.S. government would have you shot if you voted labour.
I’m stationed in Korea rn, and had my first winter here. And oh boy was it FREEZING every morning for pt
if you have to stay here until summer
as s.korean let me say i'm so sorry for you
@@NoobNo-eb8ut oh I’ll be here for the summer, I know it’s going to suck
All I can say is good luck, hope ya get home safely after your tour of duty. 🫡 you have a very tough occupation, you deserve any help you can get.
thank you for your service
Take advantage and travel the country if possible.
If you ever feel like your job is worthless, just remember North Korea has a Prime Minister.
Figure head. Kimmy runs the big house
I bet it pays better than my worthless job 😂😂
And province governors. What do they do, sit in a slightly larger shed all day?
😂
Yes, it's a useless job, but you have to understand that they got well paid and hold tremendous power
All I know is Grandpa used to "stack them 10 high"...
Sounds like my ex wife
It's perfectly honorable.
They were Volunteers, of course.
Ah yes, machine gunners and their trauma nightmares.. Honestly, my heart goes out to those relegated to that position. You either need to be VERY dedicated to your own servicemen or an outright psychopath. Even psychopaths are prone to combat psychosis. I pray their respective nations give them the health care they deserve after being served tasks such as that. Bomber pilots don't need to see what they are doing up close and personal..
Grand Torino was a great movie.
"using them as sandbags"
fun fact: till after the war North Korea classifed Seoul as its capital, and ironically, the students of the north still learn that they have 2 capitals Seoul & Pyeongyang
汉城
"Professor how come we can't go to our other capital?"
"Straight to gulag"
I heard that korea gave up classified Seoul as its capital. Now that has one.
It's pretty standard and somewhat reasonable that if a nation-state has a claim of sovereignty over another country... like in most civil wars and the like, they sort of _have_ to claim that that territory is rightfully theirs, even when it quite obviously isn't, lest they would be renouncing to that claim. Usually they'll claim the territory is "usurped" or currently being run by unlawful rebels or something but that it's technically still theirs. For North Koreans, _their_ government is the rightful government of _all_ Korea, so it would only stand to reason that S. Korea's cities and capital would be framed as "theirs". It's kinda silly but that's geopolitics for ya.
Take for example how the tiny island of Taiwan _has_ to claim that they are the real one and only "Republic of China", and the whole of continental China (The People's Republic) is just like... a small temporary thing, don't worry, while they are the _real_ seat of government.
The real question is, has the war over yet?
My neighbor is a 92 year old Korean war combat vet. He was at Inchon etc...
Please ask him about it if he is willing to talk about. Stories like that should always be remembered
I live in Incheon, and there's McArthur statue. I kissed my girlfriend behind that.
@@user-zo3ii2rn4n That's awesome!!!
@@user-zo3ii2rn4nwhy did u not kiss the statue instead
@@RCcuser02 야 임마 난 게이가 아니야! 게이도 맥아더 장군 동상이랑 안할거라고!
My grandfather was a Chosin Reservoir survivor. I was still young when he passed so we unfortunately never got to talk about it. But its a big reason i love history so much
U didn't miss anything because he wouldn't have told u anything about it.
They never do.
@DavidDiaz-zp4hu wow! I didn't know you knew my grandfather better than I did. thank you so much for the insight
Where is chosin? I dont know where it is even though i am korean. Please use words in korean pronunciation regarding korean places. Jangjin
@@user-ee3jc4fn2i or you could be grateful to my grandad that you aren't living under a dictatorship
Here is something interesting. 100 years prior to the Korean War was the Crimean War, which went from 1850 to 1853.
*1853-1856
how are they related at all?
@@grizz9150ean
They are located in different parts of the world.
Distance between them 4642 miles.
History has a way of repeating itself mmm Operation Barbarossa Hitler's invasion of U.S.S.R. June 22, 1941 Napoleon invasion of Russia June 24, 1812 One hundred and twenty nine years apart both dictators of political genius failed miserably militarily in those campaigns.
There’s also the “2nd Korean War” DMZ conflict from 1966-1969
Not declare war in this conflict
@@rodeanalfanteforcadela7645that wasn't the tree thing, I think the tree thing was in the 70's but no, 66'-69' was border skirmishes launched by the north, and I believe one of the North Korean Commandos was caught on the presidential palace lawn in Seoul "I do believe"
Yup. Korean armies' compulsory service period increased one year from that period. Cuz Many old Korean men hate that time.
I work at a senior home, and I have a friend named Eddie who actually fought in both the Vietnam and Korean War. Dude is a real class act with a great sense of humor. I'm glad I got to meet him and to hear the stories he told.
Should write a book based on his experience
I am proud to say that to me The Korean War will never be forgotten, my late grandfather whom I was very close was a US Army veteran who was drafted for the war (He got very lucky, the cease fire was called the night before he was scheduled to deploy to Korea), he served from 1953 - 1958, achieving the rank of SFC. I proudly own his Army uniforms, and in trying to piece them back together learned a good bit about The Korean War in the process (And how insanely rare anything pertaining to the uniforms are. I was also fortunate enough to attend an assembly with some of the surviving members of the Borinqueneers (The 65th Infantry Regiment) who served in Korea during my Junior year of High School and learned about the largest court martial in US military history.
"A Tale Of Two Koreas," would be a great name for a book about the Korean War and it's aftermath.
But it would need to be historically accurate. The fact of the matter is, Both North and South Korea were very underdeveloped following the Korean War. In fact, a little known fact about South Korea was that it was run by authoritarian dictatorships for like 25 years after the Korean War. The most notorious of whom was Park Chung Hee (He was actually assassinated during his reign). The South Korea that we see now really came to life in the late 80s. Up until then, it was an authoritarian nation that sought to match the economic power of China and Japan. Many elderly Koreans will tell you of how tough life was in South Korea in the 60s and 70s
More like Korea gets f'ed up by commies
I had two friends who fought in the Korean War as pilots. Thank you for covering it.
My great great grandfather served in the Korean war. Despite never getting to meet him i still love him to this day
The fact that surprise me the most was that Luxembourg sent 85 soldiers to the Korean War. 🇱🇺🤝🇰🇷
And a Korean Band released a song Luxembourg.
That prolly their whole army
Love the Korean War content! Definitely needs to be more said about this incredibly interesting and overlooked war
I remember my Dad telling me stories of the weather over there being so cold some of the guys were losing their toes from frost bite. They would turn black and fall off. He said it was around 40-50 below zero at times.
I remember a documentary about the retreat from Chosin (I think it might have been American Experience) One of the most exposed Marine units was trying to make back to the south end of the Reservoir before night fell, having been abandoned by their tank escorts. One of the Marines was furious having to wait for their prisoners to rest. He tried to beat one with the butt of his rifle to get them moving again. When the prisoner put up his hand to protect himself, the Marine's blow broke off all his fingers. He didn't realize the prisoners had even less winter gear than he did. He was so horrified at what he done that he threw his rifle down and started crying.
koreas weapon is exported everywhere as a reliable weapon against all weather conditions because korean peninsula has some ridiculous weather fluctuations
My grandpa said a fellow soldier came into his tent and said the heaters were blowing up it was so cold he said “we don’t care!”
That’s all my grandpa talked about . He was a POW for a stint but the cold really ground his gears
@@elee9056 What weapon?
One of my high school teachers was a Korean War vet. He said a lot of what he experienced was still considered top secret information so he couldn’t say much but he did give us the impression that it would be a long time before the bigger picture would be revealed.
A few years ago I was assigned a family research project in a college class which was about connecting a family member to a moment in history. In the process I discovered a 3x great uncle whom I previously didn't know existed and who fought in the Korean War.
He was captured in the first few months of the fighting and spent the entire duration in a Chinese POW camp in North Korea. He also was forced to participate in the 1952 Inter-Camp POW Olympics which I didn't know of prior to my research. It was essentially the still living POWs partaking in crude olympic games to demonstrate that they were being treated fairly and were having fun. My uncle participated with the boxing events.
After the war he returned home but only lived a few years later after having died from a lung infection that he contracted while being a POW. My grandpa who was only a kid at the time remembers his uncle being solemn and refused to speak of his experience.
Didn't know there's a mock-up of the Olympics games made by the PLA
Don't blame for not wanting to talk
@@SiPakRubah I didn't know either until I did my research project. There's a Wikipedia article on it with more detail
My school barely taught me anything about the Korean and Vietnam War. Just that it basically happened and who the sides were. The former was more of a footnote
Government schools skim over those wars so kids don't realize we've basically been in constant conflict since Pear Harbor.
Vietnam was a cash grab for people like LBJ
They never played fortunate son while handing you a M16?
@@clarkitothebaddito not as much as the internet has
I was going to leave a comment that would been damn verbatim the same.
@@neofulcrum5013 SMH and they say arizona doesn't have a good school sstem
Did you know that legendary actor Michael Caine is a Korean War veteran?
Clint Eastwood is technically as well.
@@reegez7688No, Eastwood was in the army, but never deployed to Korea. He was at Fort Ord.
Not a lot of people know that…
This is without a doubt one of my favorite Simple history episodes yet. I would love to see more on this forgotten war. My step father served in an airborne unit during that war.
Things they didn’t teach you about the Korean War.
1. The Korean War
I’m liking these new intros and interjections with the casual speaking tone
China and Taiwan is basically the same situation except they did not split 50/50 but more like 98/2 and there was no official armistice so nobody knows what to do with it now
IMO it will take a total of around 100 years for east Asians to learn and understand that regional hegemony is the only remedy to combat neo colonialism. Colonization of the mind is the worst part. I hope countries in Asia can work together to stop this current degeneracy in morality and culture.
Your animation has been getting better and better keep up the good work!!!
Maybe Adobe should be a sponsor.
awesome video!
14:00 That spy is about to assassinate him with the pen gun! 🤣
Well done. Your graphic and animation are very well designed. Watching that was pleasant. And beside refresh history
Crazy thing is, I don't think I ever learned about the Korean War. No one talks about it. There's not much media set in it. This video was educational. Thanks.
MASH was only on for like twenty years
The animation in this video is superb! Well done!
One interesting moment is when France mightve saved the entire Southern forces. During the battle of Baek-Ma heights, the position defended by the 9th ROKA division, reinforced by French forces, was attacked by the 38th Corp, one of the most elite units of Communist China at all times until its reorganization. Despite other factors such as defectors, overconfidence, and intelligence support, it was ultimately the French who held the peak of the Baek-Ma height's top hill, with one company facing nine and successfully holding the grounds. Without them, it is unsure if the Korean war will end in the way we know today. The French was also claimed to forced US forces in Chipyong ni to put up a stand, almost fully surrounded by PRA, WITH MACHINE GUNS just like WW1. This eventually helped the morally collapsing 23rd to hold its positions and repel the attack.
Yeah, even without ammunition, they began to fight with bayonets. Something that Americans rarely did.
lol no the landing at incheon reinforced and saved the forces trapped at busan
@@grizz9150 These are two completely different contexts, this story is at late 1952 where the war is almost over. Communist forces may very likely to retake Seoul if Baek-Ma hill falls, especially the forces breaking through is one of the most skilled units on the communist sides, and commanded by Liang Xingchu, a very skilled general who experienced war against Japan and the civil war. Long story short, without the French, Baek Ma hills wouldve fall. The communist forces may be halted soon but it is very vital for the coalition to hold it, and the French did.
I think the Korean war was mostly underrated.
My grandpa fought in Korea from 51 to 53. 7th infantry regiment 3rd infantry division. Was a squad leader in seconds platoon. It’s crazy to think of what he had seen and done a couple years younger than I am now. No wonder a majority of those guys that came back just wanted to work hard and create a successful life for themselves when they got back.
Nice vid
I love the dude's voice. It's very soothing. Love this channel
from south Korea 🇰🇷 I served ROK army two years.(03~05). I was Korean and world history academy teacher. Thank you for UN soldiers 🙏
형님 저는 해군 나왔습니다. 외국에서 선생하시나본데 고생 많으십니다. 전 한국학교에서 선생하는데 교실이데아들으며 출근하는게 취미생활입니다.
@@user-mt6xu4dk7t ㅎ 답글 감사합니다 한국살고 학교 선생님은 아닙니다 ㅎ 예전에 학원 운영했었어요 이 채널 가끔 봅니다
저도 전쟁사 관심있고 영어도 들어볼겸 해서 가끔 봅니다 ㅎㅎ 이제 곧 출근인데 기운내시고 출근 전에 교실이데아 듣고 가시는걸 강추드립니다.
The Japanese economy was pulled out of the doldrums by supplying the U.N. forces fighting in Korea, and Japanese mortar shells from that war have been documented being used in the Ukrainian army today.
Did you know the movie and TV show M*A*S*H* was and still is banned in South Korea?
Did you know that with the Internet most bans are of no effect 😂
@@jessicaregina1956 You should be asking why it is banned versus making useless snarky comments.
Not really interested! Ancient comedy show
@@jessicaregina1956Why are you on a history channel if you think it's boring/useless?
Unfortunately barely anyone teaches anything about the Korean War. It’s the forgotten war.
*Forgotten 'police action'.
@@familygash7500wdym?
@@familygash7500bro you cannot correct anything
@@familygash7500 Classic Truman move.
There's plenty of information out there if you look for it...
last time I was this early, the Korean war was ongoing
oh wait it still is
Didn’t they end the war 5 years ago?
@@Justin-pe9cl Nope, negotiations stalled and no peace treaty has been signed.
@@Justin-pe9clThe NK has increasing their military action again, so no
@@NightLexic I was going to delete this question after I got to that part in the video but I couldn’t find it.
@@SiPakRubah IDK why they bother, China is the reason they still exist.
Good video!
I was educated in the United States in the 80’s. I learned more about the Korean War from my biology teacher, Korean War Veteran, than my history classes.
This was a great video and I learned so much! I found the platoon sergeant (that’s the way my platoon sergeants were so it’s an assumption) very engaging. I felt like I was 18 again listening to a black hat tell us stories during a delayed jump.
Really appreciate that feeling again.
Big Mac: thanks, that's more ordnance than WW2 but we need the...
Truman: Not THAT ordnance
Big Mac: You never even got a college degree
Truman: I'm the boss and you will do what I say Doug!!🤬
@@elwin38 Big Mac: I could've been 6 Stars. 6 STARS!!
@@FarmerDrew Truman: I DONT CARE HOW MANY STARS YOU HAVE!! If you dont stand down, you're fired!
@@elwin38 Big Mac: If Patton hadn't gotten in a car wreck, we'd get the UN to listen
My grandfather was a soldier in the dutch indies amd korea he was dutch allot of grazy atories
The Dutch were constantly rescued by Australia, it was a thankless task.
I read a blood lines book that followed the Dovan family and it was about the Korean war as well.
I really like this newer format of story telling
General Macarthur's landing at Incheon was such a boss move
That he completely wasted by pushing to the Chinese border. MacArthur is the most overrated Gen. in US history.
@@Cascades663 The division along the 38th parallel was inevitable given the circumstances. MacArthur's distinguished service in WW1, WW2 (liberating the Philippines), and the Korean War (liberating South Korea) is noteworthy
@@grizz9150 he didn’t liberate the Philippines. He lost the Philippines, had it retaken for him, then came puffing his chest like he actually did something. He was incompetent and only good at getting people killed.
You should do a video about the recipes that soldiers came up with. In the Korean war, S Korean soldiers came up with BUDAE JJIGAE (ARMY STEW) which used the US Army ration packs, all together. It's still popular today and there are varying recipes online. Budae Jjigae (Army stew or Army base stew) is loaded with Kimchi, spam, sausages, ramen noodles, cheese and anything else that was to hand.
Stephen in the UK,
I'm proud to say that I did indeed know several of these.
I've been watching you for 3 years and now thanks to you in my history subject in grade 7 I passed
As a nistorical miniature war gamer and military historian, this "conflict" holds a lot of interest for me. My Dad worked on ammo ships between Japan and Korea, and his best friend was an Army machine gunner--Bob Bailey in Maine
This guy is the best history teacher ever
Dear mr narrator,
Please make another story about the 13 year old japanese girl Megumi Yokota who was kidnapped by the north korean spies/agents in 1977 including those 17 japanese citizens who were also kidnapped and taken to North Korea. Please make it for the next story soon
Forgotten from the Korean War:
1. Australia was the first allied country to attack the North Koreans after they invaded, going into battle 9 days before MacArthur was appointed.
2. Australia incorporated into its force, Britain, India, New Zealand, South Africa, and Canada.
My Grandfather was at Chosin. All he would say was "It was cold and they had guns".
16:29 lol BOCW reference. It even has the tea right
Lol
One fact he didn't state was during the freezing cold the army actually encountered a battalion of Chinese soldiers who were frozen solid during the Battle of Chosin. When the Americans encountered them many had PTSD because they were at their posts ready for battle but just died over night during the freezing cold.
12:48 at long last I've finally seen my country once again in this channel 🇵🇭❤️
Thank you Simple History 😊
The Filipino 10th BCT fought at the Battle of Yultong in the spring of 1951, where they were guarding the US 65th Infantry's right hand flank. They successfully held off an enemy attack force that was more than 4 times their size with minimal losses. In total, 7500 Filipino combatants served in Korea from 1951 to 1955, and a few of them were decorated with medals such as the US Distinguished Service Cross, the Filipino Medal of Valor, the Korean Order of Military Merit (all received by Cpt. Conrado Yap), and the Filipino Distinguished Conduct Star (Lt. Jose Artiaga, Jr.).
Great vid, however SKS rifles were not used in the conflict, at least not in major numbers. i only know of one account where SKS rifles were seen, and it was when US troops pushed so far north they encountered russian advisors with them.
Thanks for the history lesson and thank you to all the Korean War veterans. I wouldn’t be here 🇺🇸🇰🇷
I think it’s good that more people are becoming aware of this forgotten war and the events that happened during it. It seems like a small justice for those who fought in it
The VFW allows service members to join solely based on a tour of duty in South Korea, even today. Because they recognize that the "war" is still technically ongoing.
dawg the intro, with the soju bottle and the meat grill...
respect from a korean American lmfao i love that lil touch ❤
13:13 as Salvadorean I didn't know this information, it's just awesome
Can you do a feature episode about March 1st Independence Movement in Korea
kinda makes me rethink about Andrew Haldane or Ack Ack's quote of "History is full of wars, fought for a hundred reasons."
Why they call it the forgotten war. Legit only had 2 pages for it in my high school history class book
13:59 Hey its pen gun guy on the left lol
Just in the first part in a Korean bbq with soju lol bro I can relate
Everything I'm about to hear on this video is things I didn't know about the Korean War because it wasn't taught in K through 12 in the 60s and 70s.
There weren't a whole lot of books written about it either so, here's to learning something new!
That was AWESOME!!! Thank you for telling these TRUTHS that need to be remembered!!
It takes courage to tell the Truth, especially nowadays. But it is so appreciated and needed.
Our amazing Veterans and our ancestors deserve better than the smear campaign we have allowed and only hear about now.
Thank you again and God Bless!!
Can you do one about the war in Azerbaijan right now? I feel like it's being overlooked and your channel is great at explaing such conflicts
If possible, please make video about "Battle of Jangsari". The battle of Incheon was possible due to the Operation Order 174 "aka Battle of Jangsari". Most of the South combatants were the student volunteers. All those 772 students were forgotten by their own government.
Nakdong River was a Mother Nature strategic point in the Korean War last line of defense before Busan
My great grandpa was in the navy in the Korean War he calls it the forgotten war
My grandpa served in Korea just after the war ended but the North Koreans still loved to yell out and harass the troops on the other side according to him
This guy’s voice is so calming I watch these just to listen to him
I saw the bottle of soju in the thumbnail and now I'm drunk 😂😂😂
GUN BAE!
you should totally do a vid on the first Indochina war or the first French Vietnam war in the 1950s which was happening at the same time as the Korean War
My dad was at the Chosin Revisor. Didn’t know much about until he started dying of cancer. He told me about the waves of Chinese and details of the retreat. I meant advance to the rear.
The only thing I know about the Korean war is from Mash.. good show!
Yes
I like I'm at the beginning they made it seem like you were having a conversation
Fun Facts:
PO-2 operated by NK, managed to destroy 2 jets and damage many other (at least 8).
PO-2 no armor component (aside from engine) only made from canvas fabric and wooden hull proven to be headache, since they had very small radar signature and flying slow enough for missile(SAM) to be inoperable.
To this day, it still stand as confirmed credited kill by biplane on jets.
The Soju was a nice touch.
Heh, actually knew most of that mostly from watching the series M.A.S.H. and deciding to look more into the conflict while watching the show.
Pretty well covered in history when I went to school.
Potential blooper at 15:20. The person on the left has the Vietnam Veteran ribbon on his jacket.
Just for the record, at minus 40 Fahrenheit, it's also minus 40 Celsius.
Talk about Dogfight with Jet planes, the doctrine air battle from WWII are still applied in that era for air force, even with new technology
Dude sipping on Soju like it's some refreshing beverage!
i hope u would make history about battle of yultong
nah
My Grandpa? Brother of my grandpa was a machine gunner.
The way he described it by the 3rd or 4th wave Koreans didn't have guns, they'd literally rip them from the hands of dead to keep charging American lines.
When the waves stopped, it was time to pack and run since the small Chinese mortars were insanely accurate and (obviously) focused on the Gunners.
He was 17 when he joined. Apparently there's some old news article about him somewhere.
19:33 did not expect simple history mukbang
Can we get a similar video on the Soviet Afghan War?
Can you do a cross section m1a2 abrams like you did with the Sherman and panther?
Man, I want that Sake bottle
Thats soju not sake and your korean creds are instantly void
@@jessicaregina1956 nooo, my credits.
The facts that stood out was the war NOT being a war, and a clerk touched off the conflict.
What SHOULD stand out is that the Korean War was the FIRST war that was not a declared war. The United States Congress hasn't issued a declaration of war since WWII. Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Iraq, and Afghanistan were all undeclared wars. There is probably some significance to that...