Is there another way to do it? Esp when Todd does the under the table thing and locks the shoulder and elbow, it seems one just needs ridiculous strength to get that arm straightened all the way.
@@crazybrosbr9485 yeah that was so nasty !! Now seems that mike is afraid to go frame to frame with any one because of that. He does his kings move till they gas then he pins them. He’s not gonna be able to fight like that with his next match Granalde or however it’s spelled.
Good to see that their last Match ever was a happy ending. It was a great moment for pushkar to take his revenge before he died and todd was proud of him.
@@dangosh3340 the difference is Michael does it ALL the time, and only wins against strong guys that way a lot. His elbow is off a lot, watch him against Devon, that should of been a loss for him. His is worse that Devons
@Jon Bishoff if you have to use it EVERYTIME, to win, it's a big difference, and says a lot about ability. Also not everyone does the kings move the same nor use it in the same way or as consistently. There's a reason it's talked about with Todd more than anyone else, and everyone else isn't all wrong. The people who defend that type of winning either know Todd personally or they like to use things like that to win in their own lives and take it as personal insult. We compare the best arm wrestlers with eachother. When doing that, Todd's way to win doesn't stack up well with how most the other top guys ability to win. How he uses it and how often he does, shouldn't be ok, it's like Blanca in street fighter just pressing the electric move over and over or someone sweeping you over and over spamming it. In some leagues they let it go even worse and can make or break a match with elbow off and arm completely extended hanging off the table. But I see you all over these comments defending Todd, so we won't see eye to eye about it. I just don't respect that type of winning, especially when it's virtually the ONLY way you do ever win. I don't like it when Devon has done it either, the point was he's not known for only winning that way, or uses it as his main move no matter the match. The way Todd uses that move, makes the whole move looked at like it needs to be be moved out of the rules, it treads that line of cheating too closely. Fully extend arm, leaning under table, with an arm that doesn't extend fully, and Just hang in hopes that your better opponent can't hold you and your body weight long enough. This is the best of the best we are talking about here, when you stack up ability and tools used, Todd's use of it makes it seem like it shouldn't be allowed even not allowed for Devan. It should be called hang and hope move not Kings. Todd is a strong guy and a great competitor, I feel if he could get better at other things instead of spamming that move, he would be a better and more respected arm wrestler. Problem is, if he doesnt use it, he probably won't be able to win against any top level guys of today. I say take the whole move out, or be much more strict across leagues with the move and elbow and height of your body and table. Todd's strong and good for him, just not mine or many others cup of tea for only way to compete and win against the best of the best.
@Jon Bishoff and you said stop making excuses for him because you like him more, but that's all you have been doing for Todd bro. If I do like Devon more it's not becuase of their looks lol, it's because of the difference in their ability and tools to win, style. If Devon matched like Todd I wouldn't like Devon as much either. It's not personal, it's simply about how one chooses to win versus another.
This may be the only time I have seen Pushkar playing a calculating or a strategical game. He realized that he needed to have patience and formulate a strategy to defeat the Monster.
@@davidarchibald1124 if Only chaffee spend his time enough to learn how to press instead only using raw power and almost no technique... he would be the best
Well the grip is very important look at 29:21 where todd lost his grip and gave pushkar all his power back. Dude sometimes i have the feel people never even tried it.
@@PawanKumar-vr2uz you can't compare the bitch move with all the other more fundamentally connected moves, even the flop-wrist press, the degenerate form of inside-pulling, requires side/back pressure, i.e. your 'arm', which is connected with the other pulling forms from the hook to the top-roll; but the king's move gives up side/back pressure (your 'arm') to secure hand control relying on one's bone-lock and fucked up tendons, which are more like disabilities than the physical manifestation of most's idea of athleticism, and the only way you win with your 'hand' only is to sit there till your opponent tires himself out and then stand back up for a sneaky (usually flop) press. So is this a legit strategy, why yes, according to the rules; but in my and many others' opinions it's hardly armwrestling.
That's his style it's like saying to Jerry cadorette no flop wrist press = no Jerry or Kamil no shoulder flop press= no Kamil well yeah that's his style Kamil has more options but Michael broke his arms many times in the past human body is fragile.
@@blackwidow1621 it is true, he just did a livestream, I asked him who was the strongest out of Levan, Voevoda and Cyplenkov since he’d felt them all, he said he couldn’t comment on Levan but that Pushkar in 2017 was the strongest arm wrestler he ever faced. Although it’s fair to note that he never faced Cyplenkov left arm.
@@blackwidow1621 I agree, I personally believe that Cyplenkov at his best was better than any version of Pushkar on either hand, but this is just what Todd said. Although I have to say, Pushkar in 2015 was monstrous, the way he crushed Chaffee that year was out of this world.
@@TheMaster47x 2015 was the strongest version of Pushkar but in the other hand Chaffee was not in a good shape in that tournament , he did lost to Travis easily so we can see his shape was not so stable like Denis
25:15 this is exactly why i don't like the kingsmove, Pushkar is literally giving everything he has and Michael with his arm fully extended is somehow being able to hold and talk to the refs, it's not a feat of strength, that's his joint/bone lock saving him from being pinned.
Yeah if you try it you will become champion it's so easy.Armwrestling it's not all about strength ,you need also technique,timing,explosiveness.He doesn't break any rule and not everyone can execute this move.
Wtf lol, so ban the guy for having an freakish amount of pronation strength on his arm? 🤣 you are a joke get stronger and beat him, Dont act like a child and cry about how you are weaker than him therefore he is cheating lmaooo You bunch of losers.
@@gokublack5831 Nope... MT is a weakling who depends on the "kings move" against strong opponents unto this day... when you think of what a "monster" is, he isn't it!!
@@TeStOs78 It's style where the riser is involved but in a lower position you need strength for it , Michael Todd's arm are super broken but he refused to give up and adopted the style that suited for his injuries he doesn't have the advantages other arm wrestlers have being able to stay tight at the top and up high there's a part wheres a bit loose because of all the fractures he had for arm wrestling the wrong way and reckless he would win matches in an extremely reckless way before it's why. His kings move here isn't even that low here you tell he workouts for it too.Its not some kind of cheat hax where you don't need to workout for it same thing can be said about flop wrist press it's the same category arm wrestling without the hand possibly even more Orthodox a than the kings move because the kings move keeps more fundamentals of arm wrestling like hand riser pronation but flop wrist has no hand riser it's push instead of pull
@@TeStOs78 You the stops Monster Micheal Todd did here are you kidding me he stopped Pushkars surges many times throughout the whole match not always so low either so there's was power coming out both of them
@@LionWolfTactical He is ignoring that Pushkar fouled intentionally because he would have lost other wise or tire out. Fouls are part of the strategy for winning.
2017 Pushkar was a different thing. He increased his wrist power significantly. Also the increased experience taught him a lot about wrist control. Maybe this Pushkar would be a good match against Levan. He got significant improvement from the time he lost against Denis and Devon. This Pushkar could actually take on a prime Denis or Voevoda. It's our bad luck that we missed the Vendetta between Pushkar and Denis. RIP Big man.
No dude..Look carefully. Pushkar and Michael both lost their wrist in the straps multiple rounds. Levan is so strong in the hand that he would never let Michael go to straps. Even if by some chance it goes to the straps, it will be flash pins for Levan. The dude is so strong and has so much mass on him. We all know Pushkar is a legend, but sorry, he would lose 0:6 to Levan.
@@sonyx4500I am a Pushkar fan, and even I have to admit that current levan is too powerful for anyone to take on. Pushkar probably would’ve won against a 2018 or 2019 version of levan. But now Levan is too big, too strong, and his back pressure is also out of this world ( Pushkar often struggles with people who have stronger back pressure than him ).
A brief analysis of Todd's tactics here: 16:58 elbow spent some time off the back of the pad, taking a massive amount of pressure off his elbow joint and causing Pushkar to waste precious energy. 19:46 Same thing. It's no secret that Pushkar is most dangerous during his initial hit, and while all elite pullers have great stamina, Pushkar isn't known for having top level endurance. This is a way for Todd to prevent himself from being pinned while (1) not expending as much energy as he normally would with his elbow on the pad, and (2) Drastically reducing the chances of his arm breaking, as his forearm becomes the fulcrum instead of the elbow. 23:33 Sneaky. Humerus bone is at a negative angle here, which is what the "shoulders must be above the table" rule is supposed to prevent. By dipping lower, Pushkar has to fight the bone lock sooner. Todd already has a unique advantage. Due to being unable to even come close to fully straightening out his arm, he doesn't have to have his humerus at a negative angle in order to benefit from the bone lock. But he does it anyway. ***To clarify, I do not see using the bone lock as cheating. To do that would be to penalyze someone for having a disability. People whose arms can actually fully straighten will not have an opportunity to use their bone lock unless they have their humerus bone at a negative angle, which shouldn't be allowed (yet some refs go by shoulder position which muddies the waters of legality). 25:15 Here you can see his humerus bone is MUCH closer to level (parallel with floor). If you analyze Todd's matches, you will see this is a common phenomenon. As he sees that his opponent is becoming completely drained, he will gradually bend the rules less and less. He doesn't cheat every match of course, but you'll see the incidents where he cheats the most are when he is in the greatest danger of being pinned. If you doubt this please revisit WAL 403. 28:37 Todd felt Pushkar was too drained and that he had this in the bag at this point. We see some actual offense off the rip this time with an actual confident hit. He dips far too low on the hit but I believe this is just out of habit. We see a few small hits here and there, first real offense of the match. Seconds later, notice the "oh sh*t" moments as he straightens out his arm every time Pushkar hits. And when Pushkar finally transitions to the press, Todd goes FAR too low and immediately engages his bone lock, as he knows this is do or die. The bone lock wasn't enough though. Notice how the strap seems to have loosened, and Pushkar's flop wrist press is actually attacking Todd's thumb from _behind,_ *causing* Todd's arm to pronate (rendering Todd's incredible pronator useless and), largely negating the effectiveness of the bone lock (even the letter "V" is flat once you lay it down laterally) eventually pinning him palm side down! Incredible by Pushkar. RIP. For those of you that think this is just about the king's move, I urge you to analyze more of Todd's matches. The king's move isn't the problem. It's a lack of authoritative rule enforcement when pullers bend and break the rules. When you're in a king's move, the fact is that the ref is often assuming your elbow is on the pad rather than taking an actual close look. He is usually much more focused on your opponent's elbow as he desperately tries to pin you. It's pretty amazing how he talks casually while holding the strongest pullers in the world isn't it? Well maybe now some of you have a slightly better idea as to how that is possible. It's also pretty amazing that Todd came so close to "winning" this while being in a losing position 99% of the match.
Great comment, personally I'm not too sure strict reinforcement of the rules would dampen the success of Michael's king's move because he seems to be getting better with keeping up with the rules in his recent matches; maybe a sign for another rule-change. Wouldn't it be better if we had three refs, one for each puller and a 'general' ref for monitoring the center of the table and pin-checking, as well as allowing immediate footage-rewinds for ambiguous cases.
@@godfryopa339 well we just saw what happens when elbow fouls and dipping too low aren't allowed. Even after gaining strength MMT seems to be far less of a threat at the elite level.
@@oceanwaves83 Rules shouldnt change. MMT becomes obsolete without allowing full KM. If all these guys are as strong as they are saying, then challenge a full KM like pushkar did here.
@@jasminbisaillon2832 It may not be that clear cut, already l atleast with Laletin. In the past, the monster had successfully stopped Cyplenkov and also won some matches. His king's move is formidable. If he stops am opponent, he has a chance to win.
Can I just say, when Pushkar had Todd's wrist twisted back where he couldn't properly perform the king's move, it was game over for 3-2. After watching this video many times, Michael isn't even puffed out or breaking a sweat because he hasn't worked at all. He has just discovered that a certain angle his arm completely locks up and goes no further, wouldn't call that arm wrestling at all. If he used it once in a while out of desperation I would let it slide, but everytime is just freekin embarrassing
RIP Pushkar He was in his prime right before he passed away in that accident Gosh I miss that dude I mean Andrey was at a level rarely seen Just annihilating everyone !!!! This was what 2017 against Michael ? Andrey was nuts in 2018 !!! I could have my dates wrong ? But I think 2018 was the year he was insane strong the best he’d ever been 💪🏽 ?
The reason Michael Todd is so hard to beat is because his arm literally won’t go straight. He’s not even using strength. He’s just using a bone lock. It’s a disgrace to the sport
@Jon Bishoff notice how Michael never breaks a sweat but gets his hand taken every match. A casual fan wouldn’t know that he has a bone lock. But hey man if that’s what you’re into. It’s pretty clear that 90% of the people he arm wrestles are stronger than him
@@frogman8120 some nba players are taller than others and usually tall players dominate the game. Does that mean that nba rules are fd? Im no micheal todd fan but hes using what talent he has to 100% of its ability, and I respect him for that. Just like almost every armwrestler out there has respect for the fellow.
@@rickwilson5611 that's a false analogy. The correct analogy would be if there would be a player so tall that he reaches underneath the basket to prevent a score. There is in fact a rule that specifically forbids this for the reason that it contradicts the core rules of the game. So even in the NBA there are rules tailored around physical abnormalities to prevent edge cases that literally go against the core principles of the game. And a armwrestler who can not straighten out his arm and drops down so you can't physically pin him goes against the same principle in my opinion.
@@Yodudeee Pushkar was asked if he could set up a camp to take on prime Cyplenkov and he could pick anyone to help train him, who would he pick? He thought about it for about 2 seconds and said John Brzenk. Interviewer pressed him for other names and Pushkar was like..."No, John would be enough". Interviewer pushed him again for more names and he said Larratt and Babayev
He will ran out the gas before winning the second round or third. Levan has a bigger amount of Kalories to burn. Pushkar can't keep the strenght active as much as Levan, but for me he has more strenght.
I used to dislike Todd because of the kings move. But I changed my opinion after starting to arm wrestle. People say it's easy because of a possible bone lock, but I dare you to try it, it's difficult and dangerous. Beyond that, none is critiquing Oleg for his genetic disposition, which I find unfair. Todd developed an access to his technique many years into his career, and it's not undefeatable. The only thing I dislike Todd for is his wheepy demeanor sometimes, but he seems to be doing a lot of promo and coaching for the sport which I appreciate a lot.
@@onlyyash6765 Michael himself said that physically he was probably at his strongest around 2011-2012, when he faced Devon and beat Pushkar 6-0. Today he's lighter and doesn't focus his training on overall strenght, and he's smarter/more technical with his King's Move.
@@fistoftulkas7335 pushkar isnt even left handed boy keep saying those 6-0 try right hand with pushkar i dont think laratt can win - round against pushkar with right
thats because other countries are taught proper morals as well as common decency. they have respect and they continue to live with those things in their everyday life, compared to north americans who just do whatever they please whilst saying “its a free country”.
Damn I'm missing Pushkar so much... A true legend and a warrior of armwrestling. I really think he could have faced Levan and offer him a pretty good match.
New to watching the sport but if Michael can't even straighten his arm wouldn't that make it hard for people to pin him? Seems like every match I've seen with him he drops under the table and uses that arm to hold them.
watch some of his older matches, he used to armwrestle with like a press and endurance, over time these armwrestlers sustain injuries to their arms that limits the range of motion. Micheal has crazy strong rising and pronation, if he just depended on bonelock his arm would snap. A kingsmove is the extreme end of a toproll
Andre Pushkar is still the strongest opponent Michael Todd ever faced. Pushkar pushed through MT’s King’s Move all the way. The recent Devon win, while impressive, did not face an all-out King’s Move version of MT. Until we see anyone beat MT’s below the table KM, Pushkar remains to be the strongest.
I think you are ignoring the part where Pushkars wrist was flat in almost every round and even got cracked backwards in some rounds( Todd's pronation was effective). Against Devon, Todd did go quite low in first round but Devon quickly controlled his pronation and got complete hand control. Michael was completely dismantled. It was superior to what Denis and Pushkar did to Todd. I am not saying Devon would beat Denis or Pushkar on right arm but against Todd, He literally made no mistake at all and was a perfect performance.
I do think the king's move gives Todd an unfair advantage. His opponent uses more strength in not only keeping his elbow on the pad cause Todd is basically forcing them off the pad but then trying to pin Todd with his arm fully extended.
Todd Arm wrestled Devon in Larry's PR event in the same way with shoulder above the Table but devon smoked him so easy..But damn this match between todd and Pushkar is legendary.. Both of them are absolute best pullers..
@@saigajv Even PAL rules didn't allow Humerus below table - it's just that it wasn't enforced strictly earlier. Anyway KM wouldn't have mattered against Devon since Devon won hand control and height all the rounds. If Michael still resorted to KM, he would be palm up and under devon's hand. Inspite of this if he applied any pressure, he would've broken his hand.
If it is ‘unsportsmanlike’, then it should be a foul but it is not. Any sport can be fought by aggression or defensive tactics. Todd has chosen the defensive way and that too within permissible limits. It is better to say you personally don’t like his strategy. Btw, Todd is a dominant force today if not the best. I like his strategy though.
Nah, he applies a near constant pressure. It doesn't pin people, but it will tire them faster than he tires. If he stops your hit, and you can't get the better hand position you get bled out. Its why Pushkar wisely fouls out rather than gassing out.
When the upper arm goes beyond horizontal technically the elbow cannot be on the table, and it is only the cushioning on the pad that makes it appear to be still in contact. In those situations a foul should be called.
There was nothing wrong with todd in this match..He was completely over the table following the rules
Před 3 lety+4
Being forced to armwrestle a M.Todd who's hiding under the table with his fckng arm fully extended and his triceps on the pad is an absolute nonsense ! Even if you think about it open minded (and i've heard Devon larratt's opinion on this), this just doesn't make any sense !!!!! I really think King move should be banned period ! (sorry Michael & Devon) but this ain't armwrestling !!! I really think John Brzenk is right when he says that having your arm fully extended, or the tip of your elbow not touching the pad should be equivalent to a foul and then to a loss !!
YES and the real shit is that both Mike and Devons arms are damaged and do not extend all the way from scar tissue build up in the joint. That's why when they are just standing around there arms are always kind of bent. They use this and the kings move in combo to their advantage for sure. Full extension plus arm won't fully open for Anything naturally FUSED BENT. I am a former pitcher I know exactly what that's like first hand!!
RIP Pushkar, you were an absolute LEGEND
Did he does?
@@alexandresilva2515 Car accident. Absolute tragedy.
@@DashDrones lol don't listen to this dumbass. It was a car accident
Todd always gets so mad. In competition
Todds elbow never on the pad his forearm is.
Pushkar Buried his king's move with Brute Strength 💪 😳 👏
Levan gonna do worse
So true 👍
Todd is a disgrace is a desperation move winning by elbow fouls.
Is there another way to do it? Esp when Todd does the under the table thing and locks the shoulder and elbow, it seems one just needs ridiculous strength to get that arm straightened all the way.
So glad to see it too.....
I love how Todd says "Watch his elbow", the man should do stand-up comedy.
👍😂👍
Say it so calm too. Not hard to tell his bones are locked. Some day his arm will snap.
The guy can't even stand up though
@@mattg3696 Actually dude, already did, search it there, Michael Todd vs Wagner Bortolato in ArmWars
@@crazybrosbr9485 yeah that was so nasty !! Now seems that mike is afraid to go frame to frame with any one because of that. He does his kings move till they gas then he pins them. He’s not gonna be able to fight like that with his next match Granalde or however it’s spelled.
This was a win for ARMWRESTLING. RIP Pushkar.
Good to see that their last Match ever was a happy ending. It was a great moment for pushkar to take his revenge before he died and todd was proud of him.
The incredible speed and power Andrey Pushkar displayed here was out of this world..R.I.P. great man..
Sometimes Todd's king's move is acceptable when his elbow's tip is on the pad. But when he dives under the table it is just horseshit.
You should see devons kings move if you think Michael’s is bad
@@dangosh3340 the difference is Michael does it ALL the time, and only wins against strong guys that way a lot. His elbow is off a lot, watch him against Devon, that should of been a loss for him. His is worse that Devons
Who would even put the word "king" next to this move...
@Jon Bishoff if you have to use it EVERYTIME, to win, it's a big difference, and says a lot about ability. Also not everyone does the kings move the same nor use it in the same way or as consistently. There's a reason it's talked about with Todd more than anyone else, and everyone else isn't all wrong. The people who defend that type of winning either know Todd personally or they like to use things like that to win in their own lives and take it as personal insult. We compare the best arm wrestlers with eachother. When doing that, Todd's way to win doesn't stack up well with how most the other top guys ability to win. How he uses it and how often he does, shouldn't be ok, it's like Blanca in street fighter just pressing the electric move over and over or someone sweeping you over and over spamming it. In some leagues they let it go even worse and can make or break a match with elbow off and arm completely extended hanging off the table. But I see you all over these comments defending Todd, so we won't see eye to eye about it. I just don't respect that type of winning, especially when it's virtually the ONLY way you do ever win. I don't like it when Devon has done it either, the point was he's not known for only winning that way, or uses it as his main move no matter the match. The way Todd uses that move, makes the whole move looked at like it needs to be be moved out of the rules, it treads that line of cheating too closely. Fully extend arm, leaning under table, with an arm that doesn't extend fully, and Just hang in hopes that your better opponent can't hold you and your body weight long enough. This is the best of the best we are talking about here, when you stack up ability and tools used, Todd's use of it makes it seem like it shouldn't be allowed even not allowed for Devan. It should be called hang and hope move not Kings. Todd is a strong guy and a great competitor, I feel if he could get better at other things instead of spamming that move, he would be a better and more respected arm wrestler. Problem is, if he doesnt use it, he probably won't be able to win against any top level guys of today. I say take the whole move out, or be much more strict across leagues with the move and elbow and height of your body and table. Todd's strong and good for him, just not mine or many others cup of tea for only way to compete and win against the best of the best.
@Jon Bishoff and you said stop making excuses for him because you like him more, but that's all you have been doing for Todd bro. If I do like Devon more it's not becuase of their looks lol, it's because of the difference in their ability and tools to win, style. If Devon matched like Todd I wouldn't like Devon as much either. It's not personal, it's simply about how one chooses to win versus another.
The way Pushkar blew up after pinning Todd's arm in 4th round gave me chills. This was a more mature evolved version of Andrey Pushkar.
This may be the only time I have seen Pushkar playing a calculating or a strategical game. He realized that he needed to have patience and formulate a strategy to defeat the Monster.
Yup. Chaffee would have had the same result if he kept his patience
@@davidarchibald1124 True
@@davidarchibald1124 if Only chaffee spend his time enough to learn how to press instead only using raw power and almost no technique... he would be the best
@@smith6368 well armwrestling isn't just a strenght contest .
Pushkar figured Todd out at the end with climbing & pressing. Good work Pushkar!
Pushkar is the definition of "Do the same thing only harder"
I love when Mike puts chalk on his hand like he's going to actually grip lol
Nothing more stupid than that style.
@@somenteasescrituras4064 weak person
@@gencademi9362 if it's weak then let me see you beat him.
Well the grip is very important look at 29:21 where todd lost his grip and gave pushkar all his power back. Dude sometimes i have the feel people never even tried it.
@@josephbach1 keyboard warriors
5:55 That win was so clean it restored back the audio
No kings move = no michael todd
So would you say the same thing about pushkar to that no side pressure no pushkar.
Wtf this shit hn. Everyone has their own techniques to pull.
@@PawanKumar-vr2uz you can't compare the bitch move with all the other more fundamentally connected moves, even the flop-wrist press, the degenerate form of inside-pulling, requires side/back pressure, i.e. your 'arm', which is connected with the other pulling forms from the hook to the top-roll; but the king's move gives up side/back pressure (your 'arm') to secure hand control relying on one's bone-lock and fucked up tendons, which are more like disabilities than the physical manifestation of most's idea of athleticism, and the only way you win with your 'hand' only is to sit there till your opponent tires himself out and then stand back up for a sneaky (usually flop) press. So is this a legit strategy, why yes, according to the rules; but in my and many others' opinions it's hardly armwrestling.
@@PawanKumar-vr2uzit seems you don't understand armwrestling my friend..
@@PawanKumar-vr2uz 3rd world indian
That's his style it's like saying to Jerry cadorette no flop wrist press = no Jerry or Kamil no shoulder flop press= no Kamil well yeah that's his style Kamil has more options but Michael broke his arms many times in the past human body is fragile.
the Pushkar war face is the best.....god rest his soul he definitely put Todd in his place
this was a great match dont think like that
Andriy Pure Power Pushkar
This match was a bit of a joke. Pushkar stopped the round every he got tired. He Shouldn't have been allowed to do that.
Michael said this version of Pushkar was the strongest arm wrestler he ever faced, stronger than Voevoda and Cyplenkov.
@@blackwidow1621 it is true, he just did a livestream, I asked him who was the strongest out of Levan, Voevoda and Cyplenkov since he’d felt them all, he said he couldn’t comment on Levan but that Pushkar in 2017 was the strongest arm wrestler he ever faced. Although it’s fair to note that he never faced Cyplenkov left arm.
@@blackwidow1621 I agree, I personally believe that Cyplenkov at his best was better than any version of Pushkar on either hand, but this is just what Todd said. Although I have to say, Pushkar in 2015 was monstrous, the way he crushed Chaffee that year was out of this world.
@@blackwidow1621 pushkar won right last time eith cyplenkov 6-0 i think back in 2014
@@TheMaster47x 2015 was the strongest version of Pushkar but in the other hand Chaffee was not in a good shape in that tournament , he did lost to Travis easily so we can see his shape was not so stable like Denis
@@Daybr3ak1991 lol, Pushkar had never won more than two rounds in a match against Cyplenkov with either hand.
I really liked the look on Pushkar's face before the GO, he was just charging brute force.
😳😳😳😳 CHAAAAARRRGGGGGIIIIINNNG!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!
he would have broken many people's arms..such a brutal and explosive powerrr..
25:15 this is exactly why i don't like the kingsmove, Pushkar is literally giving everything he has and Michael with his arm fully extended is somehow being able to hold and talk to the refs, it's not a feat of strength, that's his joint/bone lock saving him from being pinned.
Yeah if you try it you will become champion it's so easy.Armwrestling it's not all about strength ,you need also technique,timing,explosiveness.He doesn't break any rule and not everyone can execute this move.
@@dimkilago2958 not everyone can excecute this move because they havent broken their fucking arm lol
I can tell pushkar was frustrated. I would be as well if a guy who is substantially weaker than me cheats like that
Wtf lol, so ban the guy for having an freakish amount of pronation strength on his arm? 🤣 you are a joke get stronger and beat him, Dont act like a child and cry about how you are weaker than him therefore he is cheating lmaooo You bunch of losers.
Tell me more about this bone lock in detail
No one pulls a better facial expression before every pull than the late great Andrey Pushkar. It's almost like I smell fart face.
Mike "Monster under table" Todd
andrey had such a raw energy he was truly truly a warrior
pure powerrr..R.I.P. ..master Pushkar..
Andriy Pure power PUSHkar
Pushkar could have light up a city with all that power...
@U Betcha shut up man
What about Monster Michael Todd with all that power to stop Pushkars hit several times get wins and it was pretty close match
@@gokublack5831 Nope... MT is a weakling who depends on the "kings move" against strong opponents unto this day... when you think of what a "monster" is, he isn't it!!
@@TeStOs78 It's style where the riser is involved but in a lower position you need strength for it , Michael Todd's arm are super broken but he refused to give up and adopted the style that suited for his injuries he doesn't have the advantages other arm wrestlers have being able to stay tight at the top and up high there's a part wheres a bit loose because of all the fractures he had for arm wrestling the wrong way and reckless he would win matches in an extremely reckless way before it's why. His kings move here isn't even that low here you tell he workouts for it too.Its not some kind of cheat hax where you don't need to workout for it same thing can be said about flop wrist press it's the same category arm wrestling without the hand possibly even more Orthodox a than the kings move because the kings move keeps more fundamentals of arm wrestling like hand riser pronation but flop wrist has no hand riser it's push instead of pull
@@TeStOs78 You the stops Monster Micheal Todd did here are you kidding me he stopped Pushkars surges many times throughout the whole match not always so low either so there's was power coming out both of them
that was embarrassing for todd the points he got were only by fauls no pin,and still lost
@Jon Bishoff what did he say that wasn't true? It was all facts what he just said.
@@LionWolfTactical He is ignoring that Pushkar fouled intentionally because he would have lost other wise or tire out. Fouls are part of the strategy for winning.
@@Leonardo0leandro0 He's not the sharpest tool in the shed. He's trolling from his parents basement all day, and that's on a productive day.
Hahah seriously ,that bum only stales time and plays around ruling to gain advantage . Todd’s a Trash competitor
Todd has had about 2 pins in the last 6 years
RIP - THE LEGEND ANDREY PUSHKAR
This video goes WAY hard. Where can I find more 😩. This is the best production of arm wrestling I've ever seen 😩
I wish Pushkar was still pulling :( i LOVE how he starts at GO,Pure horsepower and always on offense
*"Monster"* Michael Todd: I don't do under the table business. I *handle* my business from *UNDER* the table!
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2017 Pushkar was a different thing.
He increased his wrist power significantly. Also the increased experience taught him a lot about wrist control.
Maybe this Pushkar would be a good match against Levan. He got significant improvement from the time he lost against Denis and Devon. This Pushkar could actually take on a prime Denis or Voevoda.
It's our bad luck that we missed the Vendetta between Pushkar and Denis.
RIP Big man.
Pushkars lost to devon means nothing cause its left hand, right hand pushkar was the king. A cut above all else
No dude..Look carefully. Pushkar and Michael both lost their wrist in the straps multiple rounds. Levan is so strong in the hand that he would never let Michael go to straps. Even if by some chance it goes to the straps, it will be flash pins for Levan. The dude is so strong and has so much mass on him.
We all know Pushkar is a legend, but sorry, he would lose 0:6 to Levan.
@@RaeshAlGhul Pushkar toyed with Levan before Top 8 started
@@sonyx4500I am a Pushkar fan, and even I have to admit that current levan is too powerful for anyone to take on. Pushkar probably would’ve won against a 2018 or 2019 version of levan. But now Levan is too big, too strong, and his back pressure is also out of this world ( Pushkar often struggles with people who have stronger back pressure than him ).
Yes i was searching for this. Thanks
Todd without bone lock wouldnt be even top 20 in the world and im very generous ...he is useless without it
Mike was easily top 10 before using the kings move and his hand + wrist are a lot stronger now so I don't know what to tell you 🤷
@Jon Bishoff Better to remain silent and be thought an idiot than to speak and remove all doubt
Exactly !
You guys see Todd lately, hes an absolute monster, pussy ass PAL wouldnt let their monster go to battle. Shows me they’re scared.
@@brandonramey4114 yes I saw toddler get destroyed by Devon Larratt and Genadi Kwikvinia in the past year
Everybody talk about todd under the table but i want to tell you The Dj got a big melon 😍😍
2 of um
Really kid?
@@DropkickNation kid? An what's your pic from. Dude looks like his children's children gonna be feelin that that shit for years to come😆
21:08 thank me later
Name?
Congratulations Pushkar 🏆
Pushkar is a beast. One intense dude. RIP
Pushkar pure power Andriy
make the pads an inch higher and todd’s hand would be pinned way faster. i bet todd would retire if that happened
@Jon Bishoff its funny that you defend Todd on every comment
Smash a hammer on Devons elbow and he won't be able to armwrestle.. We can all argue hypotheticals
If the pads are higher, Todd gains an advantage. The arm needs to be lowered more until his hand gets pinned.
A brief analysis of Todd's tactics here:
16:58 elbow spent some time off the back of the pad, taking a massive amount of pressure off his elbow joint and causing Pushkar to waste precious energy.
19:46 Same thing. It's no secret that Pushkar is most dangerous during his initial hit, and while all elite pullers have great stamina, Pushkar isn't known for having top level endurance. This is a way for Todd to prevent himself from being pinned while (1) not expending as much energy as he normally would with his elbow on the pad, and (2) Drastically reducing the chances of his arm breaking, as his forearm becomes the fulcrum instead of the elbow.
23:33 Sneaky. Humerus bone is at a negative angle here, which is what the "shoulders must be above the table" rule is supposed to prevent. By dipping lower, Pushkar has to fight the bone lock sooner. Todd already has a unique advantage. Due to being unable to even come close to fully straightening out his arm, he doesn't have to have his humerus at a negative angle in order to benefit from the bone lock. But he does it anyway.
***To clarify, I do not see using the bone lock as cheating. To do that would be to penalyze someone for having a disability. People whose arms can actually fully straighten will not have an opportunity to use their bone lock unless they have their humerus bone at a negative angle, which shouldn't be allowed (yet some refs go by shoulder position which muddies the waters of legality).
25:15 Here you can see his humerus bone is MUCH closer to level (parallel with floor). If you analyze Todd's matches, you will see this is a common phenomenon. As he sees that his opponent is becoming completely drained, he will gradually bend the rules less and less. He doesn't cheat every match of course, but you'll see the incidents where he cheats the most are when he is in the greatest danger of being pinned. If you doubt this please revisit WAL 403.
28:37 Todd felt Pushkar was too drained and that he had this in the bag at this point. We see some actual offense off the rip this time with an actual confident hit. He dips far too low on the hit but I believe this is just out of habit. We see a few small hits here and there, first real offense of the match. Seconds later, notice the "oh sh*t" moments as he straightens out his arm every time Pushkar hits. And when Pushkar finally transitions to the press, Todd goes FAR too low and immediately engages his bone lock, as he knows this is do or die. The bone lock wasn't enough though. Notice how the strap seems to have loosened, and Pushkar's flop wrist press is actually attacking Todd's thumb from _behind,_ *causing* Todd's arm to pronate (rendering Todd's incredible pronator useless and), largely negating the effectiveness of the bone lock (even the letter "V" is flat once you lay it down laterally) eventually pinning him palm side down!
Incredible by Pushkar. RIP.
For those of you that think this is just about the king's move, I urge you to analyze more of Todd's matches. The king's move isn't the problem. It's a lack of authoritative rule enforcement when pullers bend and break the rules. When you're in a king's move, the fact is that the ref is often assuming your elbow is on the pad rather than taking an actual close look. He is usually much more focused on your opponent's elbow as he desperately tries to pin you.
It's pretty amazing how he talks casually while holding the strongest pullers in the world isn't it? Well maybe now some of you have a slightly better idea as to how that is possible. It's also pretty amazing that Todd came so close to "winning" this while being in a losing position 99% of the match.
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Great comment, personally I'm not too sure strict reinforcement of the rules would dampen the success of Michael's king's move because he seems to be getting better with keeping up with the rules in his recent matches; maybe a sign for another rule-change. Wouldn't it be better if we had three refs, one for each puller and a 'general' ref for monitoring the center of the table and pin-checking, as well as allowing immediate footage-rewinds for ambiguous cases.
@@godfryopa339 well we just saw what happens when elbow fouls and dipping too low aren't allowed. Even after gaining strength MMT seems to be far less of a threat at the elite level.
@@oceanwaves83 Rules shouldnt change. MMT becomes obsolete without allowing full KM. If all these guys are as strong as they are saying, then challenge a full KM like pushkar did here.
@@saigajv Elbow fouls are not a part of "full KM".
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I'd like to see the monster against first Laletin and then Saginashvili.
Laletin know weight 140 kg and he gonna gain more. Levan 160-170 kg. I think he gonna loose them both
He has no chance cuz they are just too strong 💪 they are both on a another level
@@jasminbisaillon2832 It may not be that clear cut, already l atleast with Laletin. In the past, the monster had successfully stopped Cyplenkov and also won some matches. His king's move is formidable. If he stops am opponent, he has a chance to win.
@@jasminbisaillon2832 Of course he has a chance, especially against Laletin. Top-roll is very bad against the King's move.
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Bloody terrible music non stop. I would prefer to hear what they are saying etc
I agree. Who thought it was a great idea to blast shitty techno music...
Can I just say, when Pushkar had Todd's wrist twisted back where he couldn't properly perform the king's move, it was game over for 3-2.
After watching this video many times, Michael isn't even puffed out or breaking a sweat because he hasn't worked at all. He has just discovered that a certain angle his arm completely locks up and goes no further, wouldn't call that arm wrestling at all. If he used it once in a while out of desperation I would let it slide, but everytime is just freekin embarrassing
that was a great fight! Pushkar adjusted and went through the kings move! thats impressive. not s lot ppl could do that with Monster Todd
I like this different ref every round setup lol
RIP Pushkar
He was in his prime right before he passed away in that accident
Gosh I miss that dude
I mean Andrey was at a level rarely seen
Just annihilating everyone !!!!
This was what 2017 against Michael ?
Andrey was nuts in 2018 !!!
I could have my dates wrong ?
But I think 2018 was the year he was insane strong the best he’d ever been 💪🏽 ?
pushkar from 2013 to 2018 was unbeatable,out of this world strong
Much respect to both competing 💯
Good content keep it up👑
The reason Michael Todd is so hard to beat is because his arm literally won’t go straight. He’s not even using strength. He’s just using a bone lock. It’s a disgrace to the sport
its a disgrace for the sport,,, the rules need to be change
@Jon Bishoff notice how Michael never breaks a sweat but gets his hand taken every match. A casual fan wouldn’t know that he has a bone lock. But hey man if that’s what you’re into. It’s pretty clear that 90% of the people he arm wrestles are stronger than him
@@frogman8120 some nba players are taller than others and usually tall players dominate the game. Does that mean that nba rules are fd? Im no micheal todd fan but hes using what talent he has to 100% of its ability, and I respect him for that. Just like almost every armwrestler out there has respect for the fellow.
@@frogman8120 exactly
@@rickwilson5611 that's a false analogy. The correct analogy would be if there would be a player so tall that he reaches underneath the basket to prevent a score. There is in fact a rule that specifically forbids this for the reason that it contradicts the core rules of the game. So even in the NBA there are rules tailored around physical abnormalities to prevent edge cases that literally go against the core principles of the game. And a armwrestler who can not straighten out his arm and drops down so you can't physically pin him goes against the same principle in my opinion.
Andrey seemed like a real man's man. Intense in a genuine way. He just loved going at it.
So badly missing Andrey, the strongest armwrestler in the world of 2018. Great, great pro guy.
Love how Andre's all calm, closes eyes, waits for the green light, while Todd's bitchin the whole damn time😆
I'll say this JOHN BRZENK is the legend. Period. Even at his current age now he still kicks ass
@@Yodudeee Yup pushkar beat a 50 year old john.
@@Yodudeee Pushkar was asked if he could set up a camp to take on prime Cyplenkov and he could pick anyone to help train him, who would he pick? He thought about it for about 2 seconds and said John Brzenk. Interviewer pressed him for other names and Pushkar was like..."No, John would be enough". Interviewer pushed him again for more names and he said Larratt and Babayev
@@clash5j can you send me the link please?
Michael kingsmove,he is not even trying hard when he called pushkar elbow,his hand is lock 🔐
This is why Michael says this version of Pushkar was the strongest he ever felt by a gap
He says like that just to make himself looking better
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What an animal! That Pushkar press was unstoppable.
Great video!
Pushkar was such a beast! RIP PUSHKAR
In my opinion, if Andrey Pushkar is still alive, he could almost pin Levan
He will ran out the gas before winning the second round or third. Levan has a bigger amount of Kalories to burn. Pushkar can't keep the strenght active as much as Levan, but for me he has more strenght.
Both men are beast like strong, but Pushkar was a cut above! RIP we miss you, champ!
I used to dislike Todd because of the kings move. But I changed my opinion after starting to arm wrestle. People say it's easy because of a possible bone lock, but I dare you to try it, it's difficult and dangerous. Beyond that, none is critiquing Oleg for his genetic disposition, which I find unfair. Todd developed an access to his technique many years into his career, and it's not undefeatable. The only thing I dislike Todd for is his wheepy demeanor sometimes, but he seems to be doing a lot of promo and coaching for the sport which I appreciate a lot.
Yeah i like Todd also ,i first hate him lol . Watch the new vids with him on Larry wheels channel, very good !
Same...👍🏼😎❤️
Same I hated him but now I respect him.
You will be remembered Pushkar 🙏 RIP
Todd was hiding under his bed. The real monster was lurking in the closet.
Only Legend who defets kings move easily
Well i wouldn't say easily....
Only guy who beat Michael 'easily' would have to be Devon in 2011.
@@gencademi9362 but Michael is not in his full power in 2011
@@onlyyash6765 Michael himself said that physically he was probably at his strongest around 2011-2012, when he faced Devon and beat Pushkar 6-0.
Today he's lighter and doesn't focus his training on overall strenght, and he's smarter/more technical with his King's Move.
@@fistoftulkas7335 pushkar isnt even left handed boy keep saying those 6-0 try right hand with pushkar i dont think laratt can win - round against pushkar with right
@@Daybr3ak1991 What are you talking about? I was mentioning Todd vs Pushkar in 2012, not Devon.
Watching Michael properly fight Pushkar taught us the problem is WAL's rules.
It's not the rules, it's the refs
Its sad when other countries respect our national anthem more than our own people
thats because other countries are taught proper morals as well as common decency. they have respect and they continue to live with those things in their everyday life, compared to north americans who just do whatever they please whilst saying “its a free country”.
@@boi3126 your right man.
Damn I'm missing Pushkar so much...
A true legend and a warrior of armwrestling.
I really think he could have faced Levan and offer him a pretty good match.
New to watching the sport but if Michael can't even straighten his arm wouldn't that make it hard for people to pin him? Seems like every match I've seen with him he drops under the table and uses that arm to hold them.
Yea exactly its very hard to pin an arm thats almost completely straight no matter how strong u are
It has name: King’s move.
Yes Todd is a cheater.
Stop complaining, it's not unbeatable. If you're a good arm wrestler you can beat it
watch some of his older matches, he used to armwrestle with like a press and endurance, over time these armwrestlers sustain injuries to their arms that limits the range of motion. Micheal has crazy strong rising and pronation, if he just depended on bonelock his arm would snap. A kingsmove is the extreme end of a toproll
If you keep going to the side against Todd when he’s stopped you an inch from the pad, it’s gonna be game over for you.
i think the king's move is BS
@Jon Bishoff Dude, about 95% percent of the audience agrees its BS
@U Betcha no they are not, it is you that who is fan of this bitch
How ironic when you call 95% of them pussies while youre defending the most pussy move in armwrestling which is the kings move
5th round provided me satisfaction ..now i can die calmly..😊
I thought I was watching “Arm wrestling” then it turned into some type of leverage game where you can have your arm completely extended...
Strange...
Andre Pushkar is still the strongest opponent Michael Todd ever faced. Pushkar pushed through MT’s King’s Move all the way. The recent Devon win, while impressive, did not face an all-out King’s Move version of MT. Until we see anyone beat MT’s below the table KM, Pushkar remains to be the strongest.
I think you are ignoring the part where Pushkars wrist was flat in almost every round and even got cracked backwards in some rounds( Todd's pronation was effective). Against Devon, Todd did go quite low in first round but Devon quickly controlled his pronation and got complete hand control. Michael was completely dismantled. It was superior to what Denis and Pushkar did to Todd. I am not saying Devon would beat Denis or Pushkar on right arm but against Todd, He literally made no mistake at all and was a perfect performance.
@@imranzakir3427 You are exactly on Point
Two legends!
RIP Andrey....you were one of the best and probably would be the right arm WAL hammer holder now if not for you're ultimate demise. sad indeed.
Seeing Pushkar destroying that king's move with that vicious flop press was so satisfying.
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Props to Michael for almost being able to stop this beast.
You can say whatever you want from michael but he is humble in victory or defeat, that show alot of character.
His a cheat tho so forget humble.
Humble??? You must be new.
Great performance by both
Pushkar what a legend.
The music is horrible... why have that noise blasting during the match?
I do think the king's move gives Todd an unfair advantage. His opponent uses more strength in not only keeping his elbow on the pad cause Todd is basically forcing them off the pad but then trying to pin Todd with his arm fully extended.
Pushkar was amazing! R. I. P Big man.
Todd Arm wrestled Devon in Larry's PR event in the same way with shoulder above the Table but devon smoked him so easy..But damn this match between todd and Pushkar is legendary.. Both of them are absolute best pullers..
PR rules doesnt allow for a full KM
@@saigajv Even PAL rules didn't allow Humerus below table - it's just that it wasn't enforced strictly earlier. Anyway KM wouldn't have mattered against Devon since Devon won hand control and height all the rounds. If Michael still resorted to KM, he would be palm up and under devon's hand. Inspite of this if he applied any pressure, he would've broken his hand.
Пушкарь в конце нашёл противоядие - в трицепс. Круто
Man, this is the strongest version not Pushkar I've ever seen, doing that to the king's move is insane.
The way Pushkar defeated king's move is epic
indeed..that's unseen..
hahahaha...full extended arm and he gets no foul!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!! DESPERATION MOVE!!!!!!!!!! Same as Revaz now
Whats the name of the referee of the second round boys?
Rip pushkar, u wrre awesome puller will b sadly 😥 missed x
I think the music should be quiet during the rounds. Surely it's much more interesting for the audience to hear the athletes and judge?
All arm wrestlers says to todd- who are you without king's move?
This 140 kg Todd was a beast... probably 30% stronger then today..
Michael Todd only knows how to win by causing the fouls of his opponents, he uses an unsportsmanlike tactic.
If it is ‘unsportsmanlike’, then it should be a foul but it is not. Any sport can be fought by aggression or defensive tactics. Todd has chosen the defensive way and that too within permissible limits. It is better to say you personally don’t like his strategy. Btw, Todd is a dominant force today if not the best. I like his strategy though.
@@RaviShankar... facts. No rules against it
Nah, he applies a near constant pressure. It doesn't pin people, but it will tire them faster than he tires. If he stops your hit, and you can't get the better hand position you get bled out. Its why Pushkar wisely fouls out rather than gassing out.
100% disagree
The old bone lock the only thing saving todd at all.
When the upper arm goes beyond horizontal technically the elbow cannot be on the table, and it is only the cushioning on the pad that makes it appear to be still in contact. In those situations a foul should be called.
Andre, slayer of monsters under the table!
I think this was the strongest version of Michael Todd.
Omg, michael todd should be banned from Armwrestling, Forever!
lol ok
Why?
@@mrbuck2646 because he cheats and gives the sport a bad image
@@justina9914 he didn't cheat that's an arm wrestling technique
There was nothing wrong with todd in this match..He was completely over the table following the rules
Being forced to armwrestle a M.Todd who's hiding under the table with his fckng arm fully extended and his triceps on the pad is an absolute nonsense !
Even if you think about it open minded (and i've heard Devon larratt's opinion on this), this just doesn't make any sense !!!!!
I really think King move should be banned period ! (sorry Michael & Devon) but this ain't armwrestling !!!
I really think John Brzenk is right when he says that having your arm fully extended, or the tip of your elbow not touching the pad should be equivalent to a foul and then to a loss !!
YES and the real shit is that both Mike and Devons arms are damaged and do not extend all the way from scar tissue build up in the joint. That's why when they are just standing around there arms are always kind of bent. They use this and the kings move in combo to their advantage for sure. Full extension plus arm won't fully open for Anything naturally FUSED BENT. I am a former pitcher I know exactly what that's like first hand!!
Cuenta la leyenda que Michael Tod fue engendrado debajo de una mesa de arm wrestling!!!
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who is the DJ?