Mental Breakdowns & Breakthroughs | Jameela Jamil & Russell Brand
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2019
- From the upcoming Under The Skin podcast with Jameela Jamil.
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Jameela jamil and Russell Brand in one video?! This must be the good place. They're both so inspiring
Hell yeah! Crazy
No.
It's the bad place
*THIS is The Good Place*
Really like Jameela, she comes across as a kind, intelligent and non filtered person. Delighted she had her 'breakthrough'. It is very tiring 'acting' like you are ok. She is fabulous in 'The Good Place' also.
Check out her Instagram, she's super uplifting on her regular and iWeigh feeds!
Oh, the acting. The acting.
Yet another narcissist.
I'm glad Jameela has come to terms with her trauma. That is a huge feat. She is quite the role model! Love her sense of humor, too ♡
I didn't know about some of the trauma she experienced and had hella respect for her before; even more so now.
I don't think her feet are that huge!
There is a beautiful isiXhosa proverb from South Africa that goes: Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu, meaning, a person is a person through other persons. In other words we do indeed exist in relation to other people, as Russell was saying. African Philosophy really focuses on and celebrates the communal aspect of humanity rather than the western individualistic aspect which promotes isolation and essentially depression in western countries. This is why depression is known as a "white man's disease" in southern Africa.
amazing!
I completely agree. I think that the generations before us seemed so much more resilient and just plain tougher than we are today because they didn’t try to “ pill “ away every bad feeling. They rode out the tragedies in life...as hard as it was, without messing with the chemicals in their brains . I don’t think that we’re any more depressed than others.. I just think we’ve lost our “ coping skills “ and our patience for anything. And we have no concept of communal harmony.. because we don’t trust anyone. Not even our own families in some instances.
This is my struggle dealing with self forgiveness and shame, I appreciate this content so much! Thank you 🙏
🙏🏼
Me to friend. Good days and bad but we will get there. Take care of yourself ❤️💛💚
I relate to her a lot when she talked about really being attracted to the idea of spirituality but just not being able to to 'do' it. I thin she's right though that it will click for you one day and you can't force it.
Jameela is still very young and actively involved in her spiritual journey. She may not recognize that yet, but I think you were correct Russell, when you said what she described sounded like a spiritual journey. She may come to recognize that when she is older and looking back on her past journeys or maybe even sooner. Everyone comes to enlightenment at different stages in life. We’re all on a constant journey and life is a lesson to learn at every turn.
The word "spiritual" has a lot of egoistic baggage attached, and means nothing to most people. It could mean "good natured", "religious", "psychically aware", "pretentious", "delusional", "holy", or whatever.
It's sometimes better to instead use words with a clear universal meaning, like compassionate, genuine, humane, etc.
If i remember correctly she previously stated she didn't believe in "any of that stuff" which is truly tragic. When we're divorced from our spirituality we're divorced from life itself. People who have no sense of being connected to something more profound and powerful beyond themselves suffer deeply. And also tend to be extremely self obsessed. Especially into their later years when alot of this public attention they're getting begins to wane. I think we're all innately spiritual. There are some some of those that remember and those of us that have forgotten. And to forget Is a painful thing. May we all remember 💜
Spirituality being sophistry of the materially privileged.
PTSD clinical depression and anxiety omg it's a struggle every day, in top of everything else severe fibromyalgia, just a struggle to get out of bed some mornings. it's good to have someone to trust an talk to. in my world it's my German Shepherd,John.
Tina Dailey sending you love Tina. And John xx
It's interesting to hear them talk about spirituality: clearly they mean different things by it. Russell is talking about connection, dying to self, self-realisation and finding your authentic way of being and thus he sees Jameela as embodying much of that naturally, whereas it seems she is seeing the outward structures of spirituality (meditation, prayer, reflection) as being spirituality whereas arguably those things are more simply tools with which people can begin to engage with their spirituality.
It's possible, on hearing her speak, that Jameela has a natural spirituality which has allowed her a spiritual path without pursuing the methods of meditation, etc.
The weird thing is that I don't actually think you have to be "spiritual" to be spiritual...do u know what I mean!? 🌈
Yep I know exactly what you mean! ✌
Yes.
Yesss
Being spiritual is not the same as being religious, and that’s something that a lot of people have a hard time separating for some reason. I’m spiritual, in the sense that I feel extremely connected to nature and the universe, and also that I’m a very empathetic person and have always been able to see the good and humanity in people, and feel connections, but I don’t believe in any god.
I understand what you mean.
So she was PERFECT for her role in The Good Place! Enjoyed hearing her story, Happy for her!
Jameela was incredibly articulate, sensitive, open and insightful. Forward to 05:15 to listen to Russell's takeaway from their discussion.
Russell I completely agree with you when you said to Jameel that what she just described is spiritual. I literally spoke those same words at the same time you did! We are quite in sync, eh Russell?!?
I love you and enjoy hearing you speak! You’re on to something with your current beliefs!
i'm sure he read your comment and loves you too
@@murdock6450 I had fun reading your comment in a sarcastic voice
Killing the ego is so important. Being forgiving to yourself also and just even trying to do those things is a step in the right direction. Loved this video 💞
Awesome interview. Loving all these videos you’re doing now. Loved the trews, but feel like this is where you blossom. Just started reading your book, Recovery: freedom from our addictions. Keep posting, your videos are inspiring and have helped in times when I’ve felt in need of perspective.
In my experience, hiding your struggles from the world is the worst part; the compounding fallout of self-imposed isolation causes me to become overwhelmed and further withdraw into the recesses of whatever inner sanctum I have designated as my "comfort zone", thus stagnating personal and professional growth. For me, it has been very useful to seek out as many other perspectives as possible through every imaginable medium. In this way, I am able to confront myself about the habitual negative-self talk without that instantaneous twinge that can so easily crush an already-downtrodden and easily discouraged soul. Thank you as always for your willingness to have these conversations and break down all manner of manufactured stigmas in our society!
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Noya WOW, your comment hit home. To the core.
Thank you for that comment. Sometimes we feel we are the only ones that feel like that
AndJusticeForMe Aww I'm really glad to hear that! You are definitely not alone in this struggle :)
Honestly by my 3rd breakdown I realised I had to own my shame and pain and start being honest. The problem wtih addiction is you live a double life. I no longer do that and funnily enough those I have told have not rejected me and I have realised that unconditional love is out there as I never got it as a child, love was conditional in my family.
A beautiful lady inside and out.Respects from a woman.Thank you both.
My children say that but it's not true. They Do shit that upsets us and we are not being supportive if our daughters sex change, all because we know her and she will change her mind again and we don't want anything permanent. She is 15. But we love them all unconditionally, and it will be that way til our dying day!
@@kenshan5378 There's a difference from what you're describing and what I believe OP is describing. When I was 15 I thought the "conditional" love my parents gave me was normal. I blamed myself for all their toxic projections and even contemplated taking my life a few times as I was gas lighted into believing almost every day of my life that I was a devil child for the most menial things. It took years to realize that the love my parents gave me wasn't love at all. It may very well be the complete opposite scenario with your children and they will come to realize that discipline is not the same thing as hate.
@@kenshan5378 Perhaps try explaining to her that you don't mean to invalidate her feelings at all and that you're willing to support her in exploring her identity as a teenager. Start with small things, allow her to experiment with her look. Tell her she can do chores around the house for money to save up for any procedures she wants so that by the time she is 18 she can handle that herself and feel empowered and assured in her decision. I understand your perspective on this and I really wish you and your family the best!
@Liza Tanzawa she has already been through the hair color changes, years ago. We just know her and she won't like a sex change. She changes her mind too much. But yeah, reverse psychology I guess... pretend I like it and just tell her she gets that from me and she will change quickly lmao
THIS IS THE COLLAB I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
took the words right out of my mouth, this is great 🙌🏽
Found these videos and I'm so glad I have. I've struggled with PTSD for years and sort of tried to tell myself I wasn't. I had a breakthrough a week and a half ago at the VA going through the symptoms and really just seeing that I can't deny this anymore and accepting the fact and that it doesn't have to hamstring me. Found these videos shortly after the appointment and the timing couldn't have been better.
I just love him! He's amazing and I always feel like he's speaking to my very soul.
Sev Vermeer stop it
I was waiting for this interview for so long!!! I don't agree with everything Jameela stands for but I sincerely admire how she maintains her efforts towards the causes she is passionate about even if it is no longer "trending" or contradicts what others in the social justice world are saying. Also she is insanely eloquent and I wish I was as well spoken and honest as her.
Two beautiful souls together. Thanks for creating this interview!
The way you unpack ideas and truths really helps me more than you could ever know. thanks man x
Loved the discussion and you two had me laughing. Positive perspective and nice to share real experiences to relate to . Just nice to know your not alone with the ups and downs of life, that we are all simplistic humans by nature... ❤️ love to you Russel. Thankyou . Enjoy your videos so much ❤️
Love Jameela and how outspoken she is on body positivity. The conversation at the end about awakening was interesting. If I have a conversation with an unconscious person they seem to view 'spirituality' as an abstract concept akin to dogma driven religions and belief systems. It alienates a lot of people because they mistakenly believe that awakening is a kooky thing, a 'belief' system, a cult even. I find it so difficult to properly explain awakening to people without them tuning out and not getting it, but Jameela summed it up by saying she just hasn't 'found it in her life yet' and I empathise with RB's eagerness to correct her. I just want other people to feel the peace I feel - whenever somebody is suffering and trapped in thought, I wish I could just flick the switch for them as the switch was flicked for me over a year ago (thank you Eckhart Tolle!) - but a lot of people just aren't ready yet, or may never 'get there'. That's cool, as long as they're ok in their own way. I also think that the misconceptions over what awakening actually is and the 'extras' that aren't necessarily relevant (karma, the belief in psychic ability etc.) just puts people off more. I find the word 'spirituality' itself problematic, especially to a rational mind. 'Spirit' - ghosts! Paranormal! Awakening and spirituality etc. are just words that one shouldn't be too attached to anyway. In moments of doubt I get scared over the idea of becoming enslaved to something or lead down a bad path through being brainwashed, but at the end of the day, all I know is that awakening has made every aspect of my life better. It's so simple, but hard to 'get there' if you're not ready. It can't be achieved through thought, which is a real catch 22. I'm grateful for Russell Brand and the fact that he uses his platform to spread the message and help lost souls in need.
Exactly my thoughts also!
Russell, you are turning into a very genuine human being. Wonderful to see you let your guests be comfortable enough to speak their minds from a safe place of kindness. Your humour dissolves tension and it's nice to see you influencing your guests through well chosen loving language. Jameela comes across as a pure jovial character that has had to adjust her own value system given the industry's ills in which she has unfortunately had to endure. I hope she takes some inspiration from you and uses her influence to protect and inspire others. Seems like young women today need ladies like Jameela to show them better ways to see themselves and their self worth. Looking forward to your other interviews, keep up the good work!
Her and I have lived such different lives but have such a similar response to our different traumas. It’s amazing to open your eyes and see that you aren’t alone, it’s not you against the world like you thought, and that someone else understands the “No, I’m great!” mask we wear to protect ourselves from being vulnerable and how exhausting it is. It isn’t really us, it’s our traumatized brain trying to protect us. My breakdown came from a trigger in my marriage during a really rough time. It was too much to keep up the facade that everything was great, and suddenly my whole world came crashing down on me. I’m seeing an amazing trauma therapist right now, and I’m finally on the road to a better, healthier life than I had before.
I LOVE THESE TWO I CANT BELIEVE THEY'RE IN THIS TOGETHER IM SO HAPPY
Russell B is very brave and seeing easy to talk to and relate . Keep it up bro and keep enhancing your spiritually . Peace !
I think she sounds incredibly in touch with her spirituality just on a more basic level rather than full Lord of the Rings yogi 😆
Lord of the Rings (the book trilogy, not the Peter Jackson fantasy movie) has a quite lot of spiritual elements written into it though.
The two people I would follow to my end...I can’t wait for the full audio (so I don’t get distracted by their perfect form).
Russell I got luminary for you. Thank you so much for having and sharing these conversations ❤️xx
What a beautiful, simply genuine woman. Never heard of her before this conversation, so glad you let her speak so freely Russell, she has an incredible message of hope and self discovery. Such a playful perception of her own journey. Delightful informative content.
When I watch these videos and I’m completely understanding the alchemy of everything they’re discussing, I feel so validated.
I love it, you’re an amateur psychologist! I’m guessing you (Russel) have helped more people with your talks than most all practicing shrinks. Keep up the good work my brotha!
bye girl I’m referring more to the audience and subject matter to which many can relate. Have you seen posts where he just looks directly into the camera and talks about addiction, spirituality etc....?
These two were not only warming and heartening to listen to but relatable and so funny at the same time. So many deep and serious things taken under a wing of understanding and compassion in the face of such misunderstanding and illusion in recent days of our world's development
so glad I came across U Russell some months back. just what the doctor ordered I always liked your wit and intelligence and boisterousness sexuality all that flirting with Mika Brzezinski. Now I am grateful for your knowledge and inspiration. Sometimes I need this kind of Direction due to some difficult people in my life. You helped me greatly in combination with things I've studied over the years. Yes just what the doctor ordered. Keep shining that great light
Jameela Jamil. One thing that really helped me start developing my meditating skills was to simply open my ears and listen to everything around you, and eventually your own heartbeat. Soon I was able to distract my mind long enough to learn how to leave it off. Yoga also helps these things a lot once you get going too!
Love her... So awesome to see more women sharing about these topics. And thanks to Russ for providing the platform for so many important topics to be discussed. Thank God for positive media outlets
This girl is the most real person, love u
Been waiting to these 2 articulate voices come together!
LOVE THIS VIDEO! I found it interesting that the conversation kind of proved that she has not yet been through her spiritual awakening yet and I guess not all people do. Only someone who has had their breakdown, breakthrough and awakening would understand what Russell means. For most people all three things happen at the same time which is why we tend to associate our breakdown with the beginning of our awakening. But I have also seen people just recover and never discovered spirituality
Inspiring conversation! So happy Russell is doing these videos!
I had to disclose today to my boss over my mental illness. I felt a lot better after hearing Jameela and Russell speaking their truth.
The sound is so much better. Thanks Russell :D!
Russell please give us more clips on CZcams from the podcasts. Now they are behind a paywall I'm sobbing because I can't afford. I bloody love jameela, this is just teasing.
“This is gonna blow their.. minds”
More power to her, finding 'spirituality' without the typical handles. Like learning anything by discovering it yourself, the lesson is more concrete that way.
I love these, because the sense of belonging you find with all these examples, truly let you know you're not alone. That in itself is enough to free your mind.
This little snippet of the interview got me to sign up for Luminary. Looking forward to hearing the whole conversation.
These two beautiful souls have accompanied and taught me so much during the last few months I’ve been following their work more closely. It’s so good to see them together. Russell, Jameela, thank you so much for all you’ve been doing lately to help others.
'Mental Breakthrough' is such a brilliant way of reframing what has traditionally been an extremely disempowering term e.g. breakdown. It is a journey and a process, not necessarily 'spiritual' in any sense - although having guidance to help you through such a journey can lead to a kind of enlightenment. Psychoanalysis, psychotherapy can all serve that function as much as any religious path.
An excellent conversation. Being real in a world of illuson is a great challenge for all of us. Jung said, "it takes a great deal of courage to be who you really are.
The journey of your life only begins when you forgive yourself and start living. Sometimes that's the only things that wakes you up, hardship in life. We all exist but very few chose to live
Couldn't ask for a better duo
can't wait for this one, jameela is so great
Been enjoying these they're short & sweet.
This one's for me. I can relate to a lot she says. Eating disorders and having to perform all the time as a woman while ultimately we're nothing but spiritual beings and that is all that matters. Took me a long time and a breakdown too but as they say - the only way out is the way through. Wish her the best. Thanks for this, Russell!
Sometimes for some people a breakdown is a requirement to shatter old egoic paradigms that have become too ingrained, it becomes too strenuous to remain as that egoic identity hence why we "breakdown" like a vehicle that is overencumbered. It allows us time to look after ourselves and reevaluate ourselves and our current values accordingly in order to start once more free of previous burdens and loads that weren't even necessary to carry in the first place.
Wish you peace and love on your journey and I'm glad to hear that you've made it through the rough seas.
@@Tullece Thanks but I haven't 'made it'. It's an ongoing process. I grew up without a mother (cancer took her when I was a baby) and thus, never felt connected. Void. My father started to drink and neglect me while his new wife, a sadist who couldn't have children of her own, started to beat me from age 2 all through my teenage years. She and her father sexually abused me, invading my privacy, and my dignity. At 19 my body finally reacted and I got 'panic attacks'. Later I learned it wasn't panic, it was rage. THEIR low energies that they had constantly battered my body and spirit with. No one was there for me. I had no friends - like most abuse victims. People sense that something's 'off' with you and avoid you. Victim-shaming. When I could I moved to another country and created my own life. I started modeling and became a dancer, in an attempt to take the power over my body back. I promised myself to never let anyone ever touch me again, unless I initiated it. But it was a trap, as no one in that industry cares for women. You're meat. Just flesh. Even to those who were 'friends' and pretended to understand me. In 2010 my body started to attack me. I had weird symptoms that no doctor could explain. I almost died. In 2016 I lost the most important person in my life and it was then that my breakdown was complete. I checked myself into a stress clinic where my life was saved. They finally took the time to listen to me and to let me heal. They diagnosed my eating disorders, my PTSD that I had never heard of before, and above all GRIEF. I could never grieve my mother, or me. I needed to heal. To BREATHE. They say we choose our path, our lives before we come here. If that's true then I'd like to know why I would've chosen mine. Unlike Russell, I never turned to drink or drugs, which even my own sister still finds a miracle, given what I've gone through. I just endured it all and it nearly killed me. Still, I never learned to hate. I always took it out on myself. And had no understanding or compassion for 'weak' people who turned to substances, like my father, or Russell. I grew up without a faith and was told that religious people are insane. So I didn't even have God. But I always knew that there was more out there. Something that took my mother. And from very early on in life I was a searcher. And a rebel. I read books, wrote my own, questioned everything, especially authorities, systems and our insane 'rational' world, studied everything until I finally found the spiritual world - or it found me. I had my awakening and I found my own faith. I'm not there yet but I'm HERE. And I'm so glad to see that Russell found his way too. We're all in this together. Wishing you love and light.
Cat Wow, you must congratulate yourself for overcoming all the awful things you’ve lived through. I do agree about THE CHOOSING BEFORE YOU ARE BORN. It’s a hard one for me to accept.. I just don’t believe it.
I do so wish you peace and happiness. You do deserve it.
@@TomTom-df9ph Thanks for your kind words.
Two great people in one room together!
I need a longer interview between these two
My two loves❤️ looking forward to this podcast
Jameela is one of the main reason's one I want to become a better person...She's one amazing person x
I could watch these two chat for ages.
just wanted to say thank you for this work you do, but MOST importantly for the water jug. it's essential to be seen caring for water as a 'being seen' kinda person. thanks lots
Wow what a great podcast ....looking forward this
Spiritual Break-threw I think I shall use that from now on 💖 I’ve had one of those, it’s called a spiritual enlightenment but it’s the darkest thing ul ever go threw.. the ‘light’ is at the end or awakening of the breakdown, just in case someone reading this is mid breakdown keep going.. it will get better 🙏🏻 x x
This is my favourite one so far. Both are fab!
This was awesome thank you both love James
Thank you for these videos x
I'm impressed that Russell pointed out the spirituality thing. You could tell he is far along his journey and she isn't quite yet. They both handled the topic really well..
Beyond gutted these won’t be on Spotify anymore 😭😭
Inspiring. Thanks Rus
I am only a little surprised that I find Russel Brand to be an authentic voice of love and hope. Keep up the great work.
I quite literally have never heard of this women but she is my parallel with the exception that she is passed her demons and I am still learning and healing
Tanya M She’s amazing and very intelligent woman.
What a great pairing!! More please with Jameela & you, Russell!! It's interesting and delightful ❤
Brilliant.... glad 12 step programme emphasised..... 🙏🏼
HOOOOOO OUR TWO FAVOURITE PEOPLE HAVE UNITED!! Everyone stop screaming!! Im not screaming!! YOU ARE!!!!
Russell is such an inspiration he relies on support groups due to his mental and moral inferiority but stills helps other people who can't stand on their own two feet through no fault of their own - it's marvellous! Recommend Russell's book the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions for any wild ego sick person - Allah bless him! A male Mother Terressa!
Beautiful conversation
Two of my favourite wordsmiths I am glad Jameela did not let herself be recruited in TM by Russell. We don't all need a spiritual programme Russell !
Good on her. Best of luck on her journey.
Can´t wait for the podcast, this is so short.....
I liked the funny vibe of it. It was entertaining, informative and a very light good way to talk about trauma.
YOU GO GIRL!!!
What great energy between these two I hope they become mates.
Very interesting and helpful video. Thank you.
Please add acoustic absorption to reduce echo. Love this channel
Hi Russell, would you consider doing a podcast with Mooji? I heard that you listen to his meditations etc. I think the dialogue between the two of you could be profound and beneficial to us all!
Thank you Russell!
I have one note to what Jameela said at 5:10: Spirituality and religion are not the same thing! Actually, you can be an atheist nowadays and live a spiritual life. In the other hand, you can be an orthodox religious person, and follow each and every law of your religion - and not experience any spiritual awerness progress whatsoever.
A religious framework and a spiritual awareness journey are two completely different things. Don't get me wrong - a religious person can have a great awareness journey, but religion has no monopoly on spirituality or mysticism.
This was yet again a good listen. I should definitely become more transparent and I never considered group therapy before this because I'm so shy and anxious, but I might try it if I get a chance.
Jameela has really helped me come to terms with my past ED. It hurts me when people attempt to silence her.
Oh, she helped me deal with my ed too. Because of her, I no longer have erectile dysfunction.
@@nickca6104 EATING DISORDER
@@Itsunclegabby I know dude, I was just messing with you. 😂
@@nickca6104 I know you know. I just wanted you to reflect on why you thought it was appropriate and/or necessary to sexualize a serious subject like a person's suffering. Have a good one.
P.S. Erectile dysfunction is a sign of heart disease, as is lower back pain. Good luck.
Would have loved to hear more about her breakdown but I guess it's hard to talk about. Rather than a breakdown I had, what I call an "angry up"
*Your NOW isn not YOUR forever.*
“Now” is all we ever have.
Your NOW is your forever
This podcast made me laugh, thanks for sharing it.
Peace and love to all☯️☮
Really admire you both
Sending love.
Love your vids!!!
She is spiritual and so lets face it so is everyone else. We just need to connect. It’s always there.
Spiritual breakthrough, waking up 💜
I love how he gently checks her when she makes light of spirituality by conflating it with fiction.