How Primitive Building Videos Are Staged
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
- Primitive technology channels are lying to you. They make their survival builds seem so realistic, yet in this video, we're going to break down how almost every part of the process is completely and utterly fake. From the digging, to the concrete, to the painting, we've got a boat load of evidence for how staged these channels are... besides one, Primitive Technology, who will be used as a baseline for what SHOULD be achievable in a natural setting.
Mr.Heang Update , The Survival Wild , Primitive Tool , Primitive Technology Idea , Primitive Jungle Lifeskills , Tube Unique Wilderness , Primitive Survival , Building Technology , I AM BUILDER , The Survival , Jungle Survival and Mr. Tfue are all included in the fakers.
Thank you guys for watching, like and sub if you enjoyed, SunnyV2 XO ❤
The idea for this video was partially inspired by "Polydactyl" who posted a video on a similar topic in October 2019 titled "Primitive technology channels are lying to you" You can watch his version here - • Primitive technology c... - Zábava
I thought it was pretty obvious they weren't actually doing this by hand. Anybody that's ever tried to dig a hole deeper than a few feet would know what a nightmare this would be without machines
You're right, but many people on the internet have never even held a shovel in their life hah
Yup, i didnt wanna be pessimistic so i didnt assume they were faked (though i had my suspicions). The ground in them always looked like clay so i thought maybe its just easier to dig through. But i need a shovel and after about 6 inches of mud its just rocks and roots and mud, really difficult to dig through. Couldnt imagine digging out a 10x8x3 metre hole.
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I usually dug some holes around a feet deep on the beach to punk my friends (i buried the hole afterwards). It's a pain, it took around 30 minutes of digging with some partners in crime.
Yup, this.
Well said, Thanks SunnyV2.
wow, it's the man himself
Great channel
Had to scroll far to see your comment.
im gonna watch a bunch of ur vids cuz it looked interesting in this video
Dawg we love your stuff
One thing about Primitive Technology is the scale of the projects.
Everything he does is actually scaled for one person, both in terms of physical size and technical complexity.
There is simply nothing in there that is too big, too complex or too labour intensive to be unfeasible for one person.
This is then further re-enforced by how he so thoroughly displayes every step and gives an overview of how long each project actually takes.
Ok. But I assumed that the fancy ones were intended to show what wealthy ancient societies would build and how. And of course they use machines. They have to. And it is still well produced
@@mvd4436The issue is a majority of them never disclose this information. Leading to a false impression.
It's like an artist tracing for a few minutes, than grabbing an AI to do the piece, than finalizing the rest by hand. Sure some may still find issue with how the process goes, but at the very least it's methods used are transparent and don't attempt to be something they aren't.
I like him and am glad now that all the fakes never grabbed my attention.
@@mvd4436Are you saying ancient people used cranes and electrical equipment (Dendera light bulbs) to build things like the pyramids? Please tell me this isn't what you're saying.
@@cdburner2548 Nope. I am saying the producers of the shows use modern equipment to speed up the process. But the videos are still wholesome because it shows how ancient ppl did do it
6:01 Haha ok, You can definitely see the lighter in his hand. lol
LOL good catch
I always found it suspicious that a single person was able to complete fifty-two 100-day projects in a year.
'twas sus, indeed.
Well, he never said he works on them for all 100 days. Maybe he finishes most of it on day 1 and puts the finishing touches on day 100. I thought everyone could dig a swimming pool with a stick in a day?!?
69th like noice
@@CaptainXanax czcams.com/video/I_F8cgn87Nc/video.html
Finally it's here .
@@CaptainXanax i know right they're clearly just bad smh.
I’ve had suspicions about them for a while. They’re out here playing Minecraft irl in some jungle getting tens of millions of subs.
They keep digging straight down too smh 🙄
@@Gormula137 Right! They broke one of the most important rule!
It's obvious they had cheats on
They didn't even have a crafting table!
They tryna dig to bedrock
@@8-ball459 or they begged dime tools from someone offline
Well, the most "compelling" or evident thing for me is that the Primitive Technology guy always does something relatively "basic" whether it's making/firing bricks out of mud and using it to build a shelter, or other things like that. I was always a bit skeptical of the other channels where it's like "hey we're building a swimming pool slash relaxing spa in the jungle!"
I've done some of his builds and I can confirm he is definitely legit. The only one I didn't get same results was with the bow, but that's more due to the saplings in my area. I converted it to a double bow and then it worked like seen in the video.
A lot of his videos tend to be about making materials, be it making iron out of bacterial growths, charcoal firing, or refining his process of making bricks. And a lot of the time he’ll make such a video before making a large project, like building a better kiln and making more bricks before building the brick hut.
The completeness of his processes makes things even more convincing (more so now that he does timelapses instead of only time skips)
Actually very humbling for PT to say hed rather stay out of the drama and leave it up to the viewer. Respect.
I guess hes interested in primitive tech for a reason
Yea that is refreshing. It's just entertaining CZcams videos so who cares.
As someone with 10 years of construction experience, the funniest part of faking this is that they could just be honest about how they're building it and it'd still be impressive.
Yes! I know the big holes are dug by machines, but the fine details would still need to be made by hand. The structures are still impressive even if they admit to using machines to do much of the heavy lifting. They don't need to lie, people would still watch even if they were honest.
"We built this underground penthouse with just a hamster and a contractor!"
Exactly. I would still watch 12 people do what they do. Also, I don't compare it to actual primitive building as this has a much more modern architecture.
The faking it is the point I think, as though they are embracing that truism that: lies travel halfway around the world before the truth can puts its shoes on. For some reason, lies are measurably more entertaining and more desirable than the truth. The thing that puzzles me is that people don’t actually like to be lied to, but they will willingly suspend their disbelief in order to be entertained. WWE wrestling is a great example of that.
@@jonarramos4523 It's about the amount of people that would watch it, because in the end it's money. And you could never argue, that a video with nature sound in the background and two guys with sticks, would blend in with an excavator doing all the main work. Only a small percentage of the people that are currently watching it, would watch something like that, and most of them wouldn't even watch the whole thing because why spend half an hour on something that takes 3 days to finish, when in reality you thought it takes several months
You mean to tell me i cant build a 3 story mansion with indoor plumbing with a rock and a stick in under a week
LOL
One good yardstick is the Townsends' log cabin project. They got a simple hut out of it and it was a huge amount of work even for what back in the day was intended to be a temporary structure.
No, mate. You can't. You must be at least two!And that's what these videos teach us!!
Damn that must be the reason why the housing market is soo easy to profit off of
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Sunny I had to rewatch this. Such a good video. Thanks for the work
I always thought it was a bit suspicious how they could just whip up an underground mansion with a pool in the time it takes for me to get up in the morning
you text started out ok-isch and then got primitive very fast
@@IIISentorIII you underestimate how fast i can get out of bed my guy pause
the thing I can't get out of my head is that these guys could just feature the fact that they have a large team, make the structures more elaborate and still get a lot of views
Exactly. And it could be used to teach about modern construction, how it lines up/differs from primitive construction. But naw, just lie and trick to push your way into an established and proven successful genre because that is easier.
@@100gecsrbetterthangod5 that is why I don't respect copycats, even if they might be making decent content.
Why bother being one of many when you can be fully unique, and thus an icon?
Right? These dude obviously have capital and resources if they can do what there doing right now, they could just come clean and do so much coo stuff
Why though? To maintain the sanctity of primitive construction? I can't understand the point of this video, they aren't harming anyone, they are making entertaining videos.
@@arthurmaciel7357 I mean there's not a single person out there that likes liars, it'd be weird if people weren't irritated with the fake channels. Sure, it's not harming anyone, but their entire brand is built on deception. I'd compare it to magicians in a way. Picture somebody performing "miracles" and convince the masses that they have superpowers/have godly powers, when in reality they're using clever tricks instead. That's way different then going to see a magician with full knowledge that they're using some type of trick to achieve whatever fantastic feat they perform. The issue isn't that they're using a huge team and a metric ton of machinery to create these videos, the issue is that they're deliberately lying to the very same people that are making them 1000's of dollars from each video.
This honestly makes me really sad and embarrassed that I didn't realize this sooner. I always figured they had more help off-screen, but as someone who has never attempted to build anything like this I really had no gauge of how possible it would be without machinery.
Im actually so glad im not the only one who feels embarrassed… I feel like I was being lied to for so many years
Can't say I researched deep into the rabbit hole but how did you see the dirt mansions and think they were possibly built by a couple people
Oh yeah, as someone who's family is in construction and it's all I've ever done, none of this would work practically nor stand up to the elements really. At least the ones without concrete and that are just painted dirt/clay basically. I mean, really anyone who's ever tried digging a hole would know immediately it's bogus. There's a reason most bodies are found in 2-3' holes and not 6' under.
@@stevenyoung9738 are you genuinely asking or are you just being condescending?
@@Melissamms genuinely asking
That was one of my main concerns about all of the builds that the others do is what would happen to them after they built them. There are so many different channels that do so many builds and I would just always worry about what would happen to the land after they were done with that episode.
Then why do you keep on watching and supporting them?
As a bushcraft builder myself, I’ve tried to build some of these simpler structures, and they are near impossible unless it is tooken over a year to build
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Hey SunnyV2, i can only say... THANK YOU. We are survival-ish content creators here in Brazil and we often have to deal with questions and critics from people saying things like "you guys are weak, i've seen many videos from other channels that are faster and do incredible things in the jungle".
This kind of videos create a fake ideia that survival can be easy and you can "prosper" in the jungle, wich cant be more far from the truth. Anyway, thanks for the content and explanation! Greetings!
❤️
@@treeofrage7622 man would be eaten by a snake or tore in half by a jaguar the second day lol
@@treeofrage7622 maybe if he brings enough supplies and machinery
I remember watching your videos on combat boots and cammo testing back in like 2014, hadn't realized you guys blew up this much since then. Parabéns!
50 episódios com gravações de todo o processo de construção de uma cabana, ainda com dicas e tutoriais culinários ali no meio, não é pra qualquer um e que de weak n tem nada
Man, I'm glad primitive technology is legit, he was the first channel I ever watched, and I loved it. I hated all the copycat channels that followed. I liked the channels that focus on the primitive methods, it's interesting to see how things like Bricks, and Blacksmithing were done to make the tools we now use today. It makes you appreciate how hard work it was back then for something so simple
It says a lot about the dedication John puts into his videos when countless copycats tried to cheat to get those views, but they still can't topple the king.
It would have been easier for people back in the day as it would be part of their regular lives. Depending on how far back you go humans were also far stronger making some feats a lot easier.
@Road Runner Me too. I used watch Primitive Technology long before the copycats start doing it. I live in Cambodia and heard it a pretty big thing. Don't care enough to check it out though.
@@HarbingerOfTruth1 When you have very few means of entertaining oneself or even providing comfort to your life, work is pretty much all you have to occupy yourself.
And when that's all you have ever known, it doesn't feel as miserable and depressing as it would to us.
I always felt like Primitive Technology was real because he showed us everything the whole way through. Each project was small enough it could be done by one man. I remember watching the one where he made charcoal, and then he used the charcoal to create the clay roofing shingles. It all worked well from what I knew how clay was fired back in the old days. Later, when I saw people making swimming pools in the ground, in the hard clay ground, all I could think was that they didn't have any support, the pool would collapse in on itself, or animals/kids would drown. I wasn't wrong about the latter. I had no idea people did it for money, though. I never got the impression that CZcams paid that much.
Primitive Technology is seriously educational specially for those who want to hike and camp in the wild.
You’re one of the only CZcamsrs who know the comically underrated song “Heaven and Hell”, which I’ve known for a quite awhile now. I love it and it makes you video more entertaining!
Also, Heaven and Hell by Jeremy Blake.
Heaven and hell by black sabbath is all you need.
Wow. Primitive Technology is actually quite a standup fellow. He stays out of the drama, despite it being more algorithmic and directly competitive to his brand.
PT wants to build stuff and rediscover the process. That he shares it and others are thrilled to come along for the ride is incidental. All the rest simply want the clicks and the cash that comes with it. So it's no surprise.
not everyone cares about yt
@@ThePolysyllabist czcams.com/video/I_F8cgn87Nc/video.html
Finally it's here,
People watch his content to relax. If he started talking and yapping about drama, I would instantly unsubscribe
@@proof4469 Today on Primitive Technology we're going to build a hut AND TALK ABOUT POLITICS!!!
I remember watching Primitive Technology years ago, he's a legend
Hello, checkmark! 👋
he's a true blue australian hero that lives in the forest to avoid paying taxes
@@ghoul4748 ah yes, tax evasion, humanity's favorite pastime since the dawn of time.
@e nobody cares bro
He's still GOATed, now he be making bricks
I viewed a few of their videos and personally I'm never convinced that they did it with just 2 persons alone. Thanks for making this video SunnyV2.
Regarding the firemaking, if the rocks contain flint it is possible to light a fire by just smashing em together, however to light a log on fire would be impossible.
I feel really stupid now after you laid the mountain of evidence as to why these are fake. I always just turn my brain off and like to see the progress step by step. I never even thought to think that these were faked. Thanks Sunny for enlightening me on this!
Can relate, tbh it wasn't truly out fault but now, we're lucky to be enlightened by Sunny!
I think that's fair since most people are there for the entertainment and progress
Nah dude don't feel bad. While in hindsight it's obvious these kinds of videos are fake it's easy to get sucked into the raw entertainment these kinds of videos can bring. It's why they're so successful. A lot of people just stop thinking or caring if it's real or fake with this kind of stuff. Even I have been there.
I usualy watch these when i'm tired so I can barely even see the mistakes.
I don't care though, youtube hasn't thrown back into that pit for a while.
It's just such an innocent genre, you'd never think that even out there, CZcamsrs would still be faking vids for money
8:30 here in Australia we do actually have a special kind of termite mound that can be used to make mudbrick, i've seen old settler homes made out of it myself. the mounds themselves can sometimes be up to 2m tall, its crazy. but thats very region and soil specific
i live a bit west of amberly airfield and the mounds out there in the bush are massive
Can you get a whole pool done with one mound?
@@69mickswagg Doubt it, it most likely would take a dozen or more depending on the scale.
@@69mickswagg Definitely not. Maybe 1cubic meter one but these things fake channels are making there is no way and as mentioned you are making bricks. Those bit different than concrete, since bricks are burned after molding to harden them and to able hold liquids and solids. For pool like that you would probably need to use bee wax or something similar after burning to seal it, otherwise that amount of water probably starts to leak since burning just 1cubic meter pools surface coated with that stuff would cause cracking, specially when earth eventually sifts. Most practical solution would be to find good source of blueclay mold and burn bunch of bricks, build a hole, make mortar type of mix from the clay, build the structural frame from bricks, then smoothen and seal the surface with the clay, make big ass fire to pool and burn it again, but there is high chance of cracking still happening and dont know how long this thing will lasts.
I mean to be honest you can make mud bricks in a lot of places, it truly is an ancient building material
it's a shame.
I'm a Civil Engineer, I really had my doubts about the technicalities and structural works of some of their structures.
they faked all of it just to generate views in order to get paid by youtube.
it's a shame.
I've been watching John's videos for over a year now, and I've watched every single one of them. Some, I've watched several times because I couldn't remember parts of how he accomplishes some tasks. I've enjoyed just how AUTHENTIC his methods are, as I've lived most of my life using bushcraft and wilderness survival skills similar to what he does. I'm so pleased to watch this video and see it holding him up as the 'authentic end of the scale'. I couldn't agree more. Without ever having met the man, I can confirm many of his methods from my own experience decades before seeing these videos!
I grew up hacking down trees and building forts in the Amazon rainforest with my friends as a young teen. When I saw these videos my first initial reaction was "huh, we couldn't have dug 3 square inches without hitting roots the size of your arm"
I grew lol 😂
i live in Colorado where the dirt is extremely hard. me and my friend William spend like 5 hours digging a hole that was like 2 feet deep. from what i hear, the dirt in Aisa isn't much better.
and every day i go to my garage and pump weights for 10 minutes. i really hate dishonest work. people who do their jobs correctly and honestly are people you can depend on.
@@moonmelon2439 thanks for commenting on ur experiences
why would you build forts in Amazon? also isn't it illegal to chop down trees in that area?
Yeah, I never watched more than a few seconds of those Primitive Technology copycat channels before I realised the fakery - I watch all of John's though... Even digging a 6-foot fox hole with a small shovel is hard enough (just ask any soldier). Faking it just for money is one thing but the environmental damage as you point out is the thing that annoys me most. Hopefully, this video will help to spread the word and the popularity will fade out until it's not commercially viable anymore. Cheers :)
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sad thing is it likely wont because the viewing stats for these channels show its mostly kids (makes sense, thats what i did when i was little) and kids dont care whats legitimate, they just want fast, consistent entertainment with high pitched funny sounding voices that looks like something they could do.
@@forgivezharion5704 to who yourself the fakers?
Dude I love your channel!
@@forgivezharion5704 what
I’ve known it’s been fake, but it’s so interesting to watch
thats what im sayin
Primitive technology is the man. He started it all and no one can come close to comparing. I have been subed from the get go.
Having dug a fairly decent amount of holes by hand on my channel, I knew something was up with those guys! This is such a great video exposing those channels. Thanks for taking the time to make it. But more so for giving John (OG Primitive Technology) the exposure he deserves. He was so ahead of the trends way back when he started. His authenticity and uniqueness had me glued to his channel. When these other channels popped up not long after, I could tell something wasn’t right. They could have at least not dressed EXACTLY like OG Primitive Tech. With the shorts etc, I also noticed last year that all these channels had their CZcams accounts set to “United States”, which was strange. Either way, I hope that people who watch this video go straight over to OG Primitive Technology and give him a sub and watch all his videos. He was (and still is) the best no-talk Primitive Channel out there.
Youre absolutley right
If its one thing I've learned from digging holes is all those guys should be ripped. Digging by hand isnt easy
@@kanamekiyru I spent time working for a fence building/installation company and later an excavation company, with kit ranging from tiny skid steers that you stand on all the way to full sized excavators and bucket loaders with articulated steering and tires around as tall as I am. One thing that never changed was the need for someone with a shovel (or someone to crouch on top of the auger with those crap tiny skid steers when the ground is hard). That kind of work sucks. Do it long enough and you will not be ripped, you will be broken.
@@kanamekiyru Even digging with metal tools is not easy.
Honestly sub to both of these channels hrs admitting that they are not the best and that John the original guys the best which most people can't do I support that and I'm subbing because of it
Primitive Technology has always been, first, an educational survival channel. The rest have always felt like entertainment. No survivalist has ever made building an underground pool with a water slide, and a fresh cut green lawn a priority.
@dash shut
I stopped watching those channels when I saw them releasing a video every few weeks saying "We spent a year working on this"
@@tarnos12 how did i not realize this XD
If primative technolagy wanted to he chould tottaly make swimming pools
@@axelfirekirby
Alone?, No he can't, you would need a plumber to adjust the pipes if you want to pool plumbing, an experienced architect to make sure the structure doesn't crumble, an excavator, and a couple laborers.
You totally can't do it alone.
I love the respect given to and from primitive technology and this channel.
It's nice to see people supporting eachother
There is a quick fix for those type of fake vids - bring back the visible dislike count. Any content creator can remove comments exposing their lies, but back then at least they couldn't hide the huge count of dislikes, which would easily alert any viewer before watching those things.
Unfortunately, they removed it & you have to download a Chrome extension to show the dislikes
I was ready to be heartbroken if primitive technology was going to be proved to be staged. My faith in his has and will continue to grow and I'm happy that the only primitive technology channel I've found interest in has maintained integrity.
in his channel we trust...
also the long duration between uploads... if i have to guess, it's fairly regular on the fakes than on his channel
His projects are the only ones that seemed plausible. It's slow, hard grunt work, unlike those absurd overnight swimming pool condos in the middle of a tropical jungle.
@@PrograError i've noticed that with channels in general, whether it's just the quality or the authenticity i tend to trust youtubers that don't upload so often.
To be fair the OG Primitive Technology doesn't anything that's unbelievable. He doesn't create underground waterparks or skyscrapers - he just makes little huts, charcoal kilns and other fairly reasonable stuff. Even his more involved projects - like his brick huts with tiled roofing are by and large feasable. He doesn't show off some supernatural skill - and he shows a lot of detail on how he achieves his projects. It feels quite like you can follow this steps and get a similiar result (unlike digging a luxury swimming pool by hand)...
Have faith in God, God bless you ‼️✝️✝️✝️
Honestly, I wish these channels would just be honest on how these builds are done. They all look pretty cool, it'd be nice to watch the real process
It’s time for them to make a behind the scenes? 😂
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@The TacoCat No.
honestly they would be more interesting to me if i saw the how side.
exacly, then they might be able to make even bigger things, and I would not care
I'm not even that mad that they're lying to people, but not cleaning up after themselves is unforgivable.
@@madamohammed94 he owns the land
so glad john (primitive technology) makes new videos.
in my opinion he is one of the most legit channel there is.
Honestly, severely understating the amount of manpower/resources/technology involved in a build and taking solo credit is EXACTLY what a primitive leader would do back before doing background research was easy. At least nowadays they can't literally bury their entire build team afterwards.
Source? Example?
@@ok-kk3ic I'm pretty sure that this is talking about, like, the pyramids of giza or other ancient megastructures, though it's hard to call the pyramid-era egyptians 'primitive' with a straight face.
@@ok-kk3ic ask for "source" about the oldest practice of humankind leaders... LMAO
@@crystallineAurora Hopefully if he was talking about the egyptians he's aware the builders for temples/pyramids were not slaves or servants but well sought after workers, respected in their community chosen for the holy task of building these things for their god, the pharaoh. If they were buried with the build, it was in their own tombs.
@@PsicosisYT I think they were mostly corvee labour actually
The irony is that they’d probably still easily make over 15 million views showing the authentic building process. Machines and crew included in.
True I would watch that
Probably not.
You're in for a rude awakening if you decide to search "underground pool" on here. There's no irony, only profitable lies.
I watch it because its a primitive build and im sure alot of others do as well
@@poipoi300 wdym by that
This certainly puts a different view on those channels. I'll take this info into consideration the next time I'm watching one as more of a 'personal project on private land' rather than a 'survival' type thing. Also, the only thing that actually annoys me if only a little, especially if the builds are on private land, is the clean up of the plastic bags and anything that won't just 'return to earth naturally over time'. Sure it might be private land, but at least clean up a little afterwards.
Thanks for the video exposing these fakes. I’ve had a subscription to Primitive Technology for quite awhile now. I really enjoy his videos and I did not know he is a fellow Aussie. 👍
I've gotta be honest... I'm usually pretty good at understanding what's fake on the internet, but this genre has always been so innocent and rural in my eyes, it just totally went over my head. Thanks for being a consistent voice of reason!
Sadly, one has to assume the worst when it comes to South East asia
I didn't think anything of the earliest ones but after they started getting more complex I became pretty suspicious
I come from south east Asia origin and can find these fake videos disgust to our ability to build things
@@oplars6487 as a south east asian, yeah totally true. There are good people and bad people in every corner in this world.
The only thing I noticed were the falsified locations. I knew by the landscape and plants in these places that this was somewhere in southeast Asia and definitely not in the US. I did not suspect these massive projects though.
Primitive Technology despite not releasing much anymore, is still inspirational and also insightful. Not just reading how things were made with more primitive things l, but seeing it
I recommend you check out Chad Zuber. He makes similar videos but uploads more often
He is back! He released a book. That's why he didn't upload in so long.
I didn't know about that. Thanks
Dont Read My Name,
Yeah it's nice but No need to pretend you could be Like three of these Things per year With two people. For such buildings you need Like 30 slaves to build Them With that technology in a few weeks.
Your channel is by far one of the best things I've explored lately
The latest Primitive Technology video takes a dig at this sort of thing. While clearing an area he posts, 'no excavators were harmed'.
honestly for someone that just wanted to watch anything and call it a day while eating my food, i never payed attention until the water part came in. was shocked how quick the water was dropping from those bamboo's and i was very confident that this was very fake. until i came upon your video. nicely done. you earned yourself a like and a subscribe
Exactly, when I want to watch what can be done, I look for a channel where the constructions look like they were made by a guy in the middle of nowhere.
But I don't mind wasting a few minutes watching a video in which all of a sudden a huge underground construction appears almost out of nowhere, even if I don't even for a moment think it's true.
Same
i watchet today one of the videos who the faker claims to survice one jeahr in the forrest. i thought it would be real but had one really big uff moment: why his hair looks the same as at the beginning if he claims it was a jeahr.
Just because you like long form video content doesn’t mean you have to be brain dead about what you choose to watch.
I always figured Mr. Primitive Technology was legit. You literally see him doing everything by hand. Its also much more interesting to me to see actual survival style structures being built than these crazy pools and water slide nonsense
the feeling of true passion is even stronger when i see someone doing it legitimately after seeing sooo many fakes
The sheer scale of what he accomplishes is so much more believable too. He never makes these huge, grandiose, structures.
@@MohRidwanWidiyana0_o Ye I mean there is really no reason to use a stone axe to cut every single tree. Showing it CAN be done is good enough. I dont mind if he uses modern tools. Imagine how ridiculous it would be to chop 100% of wood with a stone axe lol or dig a hole with just a stick.
Proving the concept is plenty good. After that using modern techniques to speed up the labor is alright.
Am I really gonna need a god dam pool while I'm being hunted by wild animals and bugs
The effort fits to the outcome.
If i See the little vietnamees from primitiv technology nothing fits. His "homemade" concrete wall from homemade cement....
Absolutly impossible....
I'm civil eng. I know the effort for making cement.... no and never....
This is still my favorite videos from you and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY-
One of the few times you've made a good video Sunny.
I am also a Civil Engineer. Some of these unsupported clay "structures" with sharp edges and no visible support are either completely fake (covering steel, or more likely wood, in a clay facade) or super dangerous and unstable. I would imagine it would be the first assumption because there haven't been any collapses shown in their videos yet. That clay soil they are building with weighs at least 100 pounds per cubic foot and is probably more like 130-150 pcf because of how dense it is from the wetting & drying. Also their unsupported trenches and excavations would give any OSHA compliance officer a heart attack
Also they should really be careful rubbing that concrete all over their hands. Concrete poisoning is real and the burns you can get on your skin from it can be nasty.
@@kylet3390 Concrete poisoning? I'm aware that cement is a fairly caustic substance, but I fail to see how it can be poisonous.
@@BlurbFish It’s from the pre-mixed cement dust. When you breathe it in the cement undergoes the hydration process inside of your respiratory system, which is what causes concrete poisoning. The dust is also carcinogenic. Additionally, the additives like silica fume, limestone dust, etc. are usually carcinogenic and there are studies linking exposure to that stuff to dementia later in life. If you’re ever around concrete dust or really any kind of industrial/construction dust for more than a very brief period of time, it’s best to wear a respirator or at least dust mask. You can also look up material safety data sheets for pretty much anything- that tells you what to be aware of. It’s worth being safe!!!
@@kylet3390 Ah, I was completely focused on poisoning via ingestion/contact, and got blindsided by inhalation. Generally speaking, inhalation of fine particulate matter is bad for your lungs, so I shouldn't be surprised that inhalation of cement dust is also bad.
Re-reading your initial comment, I'd also like to add that the absence of shown collapses is not evidence that the structures aren't unstable - especially when the channels already have a reputation for preferring facade over facts.
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I love the way all their digging is in conveniently soft clay or crumbly sandstone…you can only do this in a very few limited locations.
It's like how in the A-Team every single episode they'd get locked up somewhere and then as luck would have it, they'd find everything they'd need to build.. a tank. Except that was of course obviously fantasy, whereas this is presented as legit.
I'd love to see a primitive underground mansion build in Northern Ontario, complete with insulation and a wood stove.
@@nicholas7548 🙂🙂 me too
@@WiegerJonker damn the a team sounds trippy
So they planned and made sure to do their construction where the soil was adequate? How hard is that to believe? What are you saying? They staged the earth?
Investigative journalism is not dead, it just comes from different people. Congrats homie
I can’t believe anyone would actually believe only two people are doing all that work. The storyline and videos are part of the fun.
Im watching this thinking the same thing like "Wait I thought it was obvious this isn't real, it's just entertainment."
If it's so obvious that it's "just entertainment", maybe they shouldn't be lying about it?
@@vhonanimulea3783 People legitimately believe it's real, a significant amount of them. It gets REAL Survival Channels hate because "if these two guys can do it, why does you hut in the snow that you legit spent time making SUCK SHIT?"
Also if that's "part of the fun" then find other media to enjoy. At least in the WWE the results might be faked, but the skill of a dude hurling another dude above his head and onto the mat isn't. Everything you see is fake with these channels.
I think part of the problem is that they have deliberately branded themselves as Primitive Technology. I myself have asked people if they've ever heard of Primitive Technology, hoping they've seen the videos done by John, and they go "Oh, those videos where they make pools?"
Haven't done the research this guy has. But I remember when primitive technology started, I commented about corners cut on a few of his early videos. Using modern tools to do some things for example, just seemed against the style of video he was attempting. Dude responded to every comment, admitting he felt the same, and said he was working on going fully legit making his own everything. Then he did. Much respect. I purposely avoid all the other knockoffs specifically because they were obviously stealing the idea, the fact they are faking it all on top of that is just icing on the poo cake.
Well, starting with nothing is super boring, it's ok to use modern tools to help get started with the series. I get bored working with modern tools and materials after 30 minutes, imagine u have to rub 2 rocks together for a week to make an axe or something.
those channels never clean up either there was a gu ywh owen to the fakers underwater pool and it was a mess and tools and stuff were everywhere and garbage
@@Rudy97 Yeah thats absolutely true, but thats not why people enjoy these vids.
@@Rudy97 I mean, the whole thing of primitive building is the... well... _primitive_ part. The appeal comes from a project done entirely by hand.
At the same time though, these half-primitive builds have an appeal in and of themselves. However, selling them as "entirely made by hand" is extremely disingenuous. Just call it something like "interesting builds"; don't try and sell it as something that it isn't.
@@ShermTank7272 yeah trust me its not easy work even if it was run by all machines, fake "primitive building" takes away the real recognition for actual construction workers.
I've been subscribed to Primitive Technology since practically his 1st video. The man sharpens stones to strip bark to be beaten into fibers that he then weaves into rope to build his home, 100% *in front of the camera*. He will dedicate minutes out of a video to show just how much time went into doing one thing if it warrants it, because even little things take time. No smash cuts to hours later, no tools but what he makes on camera. Homie even burned his hands in Lye, making mortar for his clay brick walls. That kind of dedication is something I haven't seen in any other primitive tech/life channel, which sucks, because I love the genre...
I've watched his iron tool build and I was so amazed with the blade he got away recently! He's an actual og
@@kaigrant88 I've seen a lot of people try to forge iron from ore in similar processes, and his method made most of them look amature, despite years of experience. The pump drill impeller design forge blower is genius. Definitely the OG.
Have you seen Primitive Skills' series though? He's a channel that started off as another copycat of the OG Prim Tech but quickly became quite legit from what I've seen. He doesn't do these ridiculous swimming pool videos either but more realistic survival stuff. At he very least he doesn't claim to be from the USA like the other channels, but openly states it's in Vietnam. He also shows almost everything he painstakingly does on camera, from metalwork and woodwork to farming. After watching this vid I have my doubts but I do think he is legit as well.
@@dingus42 Yes! His channel is one of the select few that actually looks fairly legit to me. I like his videos because you can see the his progress in developing his own patch of property. Although from what I've seen some of his methods utilize more modern materials or do things behind the scenes (such as his videos on making iron tools vs Primitive Technology's) ultimately from what I've seen, it's for the development of his land aswell as a video series. So I can overlook some things with him, because a lot of his ideas are interesting, practical and plausible. I agree he started off a bit questionable, but he's gotten better.
I am so glad to find this video. I hate being scammed and that is what the fakers are doing, or at least trying to do.
I had my suspicions but couldn't figure it out till I found this video.👍
Amazing work, getting all this info together for us....
Damn you really got the research done quickly. Back to watching cos I didn’t always believe these elaborate builds
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@@forgivezharion6989 stop spamming, thanks.
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4 (!) Fucking bots in 1 thread are you serious
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The imperfections and the relatively small builds are what make Primitive Technology so great. The tiny wins add up and give a real sense of progression from video to video. I’d rather watch five 10 minute videos of him making the tools and materials for his bigger projects rather than a single one with him making a mansion.
100% yes to this comment.
Also Primitive Technology is mostly about what the title says, technology. Not really about the specific projects.
I doubted this on the first place. Everything is so beautifully and perfectly made. Impossible by one man....
You ever notice how so many of these videos have an "animal sidekick" like a random puppy or something like that? Makes you wonder where the animals go in-between videos..
I've always wondered what happened to these structures after they were completed. Sad to see that they're just abandoned. I always assumed they were partially demolished or covered in dirt and reused for other videos since a lot of the structures look very similar.
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Finally it's here,
Sadly it wasn't there
Oddly enough John Plant (the OG Primitive Technology) uses all his structures to their fullest and even builds them as prep for bigger projects (he made a roofed house as a workshop so he could make projects under the shelter of said workshop (like bricks and brick kilns)
All the water probably becomes a breeding ground for mosquitoes and other insects. Yikes.
Just think, they could be building homes for people
The thing with Primitive Technology is also, you can see that his builds take months. The Brick hut is a good example, as the video goes you can see the algae growing on the already layed bricks, you can see the wood age while he is building. You can observe the time going on as he crafts. And thats a very good indication for his stuff being legit, as this would not happen if he was working with the help of modern technogogy.
Not only that but they're incremental. One episode just to show moulds and brick making makes an episode using said moulds to make an impressive brick hut more legit. Or the culmination of many different episodes to eventually make iron.
He’s just saying the large deep areas used machinery and they also have professional architects to make sure it will be solid. I’m sure these men do all the craftsmen stuff by hand.
@@alexdexter5496 And sometimes he revisits previous projects.. because you need to maintain your things!
You just need half a brain to realize what's fake and what isn't... Dont need to see algae lmao. Putting together a small brick hut with thatch roof is something people have done for ages. Making Bushcraft tools is a common thing.
On the other hand, Digging out several feet of earth in a massive area alone is a ridiculously hard task, let alone building a luxury hotel lmao. Use your brains.
You can also see his hair grow over time
I always had a suspicion that they were using machinery, didnt know it was to this extent but its quite obvious thinking about it, everything on youtube is basicly plagued by copycat people doing that shit to the maximum to get money out of it.
I really don’t care If it’s fake there is nothing more satisfying than watching these primitive building videos at 3 am 😂
Man I was such a fool for thinking that a lot of effort is put into these videos, but this video explains everything now. It makes so much sense. Big ups to Sunny for conducting an outstanding ounce of research.
sunny boy is a liar
Makes two of us but no worries because as they will only fool us once it's really shame on them mate
I mean - it's still quite a bit of effort. But it's the fact that they are ingenuine and fake that makes it bad. Like come on, the builds themselves are really cool, I bet they would get many views even if they were genuine and recorded how these builds are really made. Instead they do this fake crap.
In hindsight, you'd be pretty dumb to
believe that they are really doing this all by hand. Don't get me wrong, they fooled me too, but taking a look back and realizing it's fake makes it make a lot more sense
Always thought it was suspicious how they always managed to have perfectly uniform, debris-free dirt. Pretty sure they use the same site repeatedly too since they wouldn’t have to go thru the trouble of “cleaning” the dirt again
I actually did not know that most of these primitive building videos were faked, thank you for bringing light to this!
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They literally staged crystal clear😭😭 how do ppl couldn't see it.
Common sense
Sunny back with another banger
Same
I had a feeling they were fake but honestly it was mostly just satisfying to watch the build slowly-but fakely come to reality.
can't wait for future historians to think these builds are great archeological finds 😂🤣
im glad Primitive technology got some recognition as the founder of this genre in this video. I remember finding his stuff back in 2017 while i was in highschool and have enjoyed his content since. He's leagues above any other channel like his
I was absolutely gutted when he stopped uploading then I found a deceptive channel copying his name and uploading shitty replicas
He has started uploading again.
He's streets ahead.
He’s moved onto the Iron Age now.
@@hornetf18 😂
I think people's first mistake was believing those builds were legitimate in the first place. As long as the videos generate views, they're happy. They don't seem too concerned with being genuinely primitive/handmade.
With that being said, the builds themselves are pretty impressive and do require a lot of talent and craftsmanship to make. John of the original PT of course is a mastermind, and it adds a whole new layer of grandeur for that reason, but people still get entertainment out of watching the "fake" ones too.
oh my god i remember your videos years ago!!!
People who fall for these videos genuinely think that real life construction works like minecraft.
@@greatcesari it doesn't?
Easy to say that from a high ground looking down but that takes away the responsibility of people who actually lie to make themselves look genuine. There's 7 billion people in the world, don't judge everyone with your own measures.
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Great video! The Social Media minds, yet again, Lying for fame... unsurprising but still gross. Although They're still quit beautiful constructions none the less... A shame they aren't utilised more after the build ay... modern madness...
Big ups to you SunnyV2 and Big ups to John Plant, the OG PT! :)
I'm fascinated with the (legit) Prime Tech - I think I'll buy John Plants book'n try some builds out for myself :)
Concerning too how those water-filled holes might be unnecesary death-traps to random animals.
Glad if at least some of the projects are real and pure!
Great work, it always seemed like too much of a massive money grab for them to all be legitimate - a bit like the fake "animal rescue" trend
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Except the animal rescue videos are worse because animals are being physically abused, the worst part about fake primitive technology videos is that they are slightly bad for the environment. Of course excluding all of the lies and cash grabbing which both of them are at fault for.
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honestly, a video showing 10 guys building a cool underground swimming pool would be pretty fun to watch, more fun then just 2
Yes, but then it wont be anything special about it. You could watch other construction videos doing much bigger things.
They know very well that if the audence knew there were escavators and shovels, people would not be intrested much. The appeal is that its all done by human bare hands.
@@robotube7361 Honestly idk about that. I think it would be kinda fun and satisfying to watch sped up montages of builders and stuff making these cool designs and ideas
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At least it whould be honest
@@IceBlueLugia I agree
@@IceBlueLugia but there are tons of videos like those on youtube that dont get the attention they deserve
The amount of effort you put into these videos is insane man
Bro I rlly liked how you did not risk the guys job good stuff man
I once showed this primitive building footage to my grandpa. Pops was a WW2 veteran and told me that it was all fake. He exactly said "Kid we dug trenches back in the war. It was a nightmare after a few meters." I lost respect to all these dudes after that.
Rest in peace gramps. I miss you a lot...
The ground is alot different in the jungle, not much stone and easier to dig
@@jockeolzzon1222 Good thing then WW2 didn't happen in any jungles or countries that have them! Amazing answer! I wonder where tf did you go to school...
I was always extremely skeptical about the clean cuts and sharp edges seen in those videos. As someone who is familiar with doing manual labor and basic construction I find it very hard to believe that any patch of land could be dug out so cleanly with only sticks and shovels. A jungle floor would be filled with rocks and tree roots and removing any of them would cause the structure to collapse. They are almost certainly dug with machines and reinforced with panels then covered with clay or mud to hide evidence of modern building materials.
I thought about this tooooo
a lot of them are carved out of soft sandstone, not dirt
"almost certainly" lol there's no doubt about it whatsoever
they leave tools quite often visible. Shovels, picks, etc to the side.
Now this is very helpful
I can't remember the name of the channel, but there's a guy who looks like a Chad that does these videos. He always does small projects like one entire video about him collecting mud, moulding a furnace with it, and while it's drying, he's doing another small things like crafting a basket of fishing.
It always seemed very authentic since the size of his projects are VERY smaller than flourished pool with intricate details that does absolutely nothing to its function.
Besides that, he clearly states on the description of his videos that he lives in a city, fully comfortable but he takes a weekend or a week away as a hobby doing this.
One of his videos was made with his dog and he said that the dog spent just two or three days with him and then he returned with the dog to let his wife take care of it and he got back for a couple more days to the "primitive living".
I found him very transparent with his communication and statements and it never crossed my mind he was faking it, specially basing on the size os his projects (the labor he puts in). Like an entire week to build a roof made with sticks, vines and leaves.
Thanks for this. My BS RADAR was on high alert. I saw several red flags. Good to see some research and examination.
My brother was heavily inspired by primitive building videos, and dragged me outside to make one ourselves. Then we realized we had no idea what we were doing, so we switched to modern tools. Even with actual tools like saws and nails and screws, the process in which we had to find the right trees and logs for our “hut” and build one from scratch took about 3 weeks.
1 person 1hour, 10person 1hour is 10meshour, so 10person at 10hours is one workday.emagine what you can do wit 20 people in one week, without camerateam. if wood is prepared allready, you do it in a day or go back to scool. Are you wathing thos videos for entertainment or to hate ????? i love those videos
@@bcs2677 Fix your damn grammar, and OP didn't hate your 'favourite' videos, they just stated how hard is it to make a hut with or without tools.
How did it turn out?
When you use modern tools it’s called bush craft
@@randomcommenter8057 actually pretty good! After 3 winters it’s still standing
I'm an excavator operator and I know from digging hundreds if not thousands of holes for swimming pools, septic tanks and ponds that the amount of dirt that comes out is quite unbelievable, so my issues with these videos is that it would take 2 men a very very long time to dig and then move the dirt by hand in buckets to another location. I take the videos for what they are and just enjoy the architecture and the creativity of the team, even tho they are lying to everyone.
I think Modern Self Reliance has showed that it takes a lot of time to dig an underground hole with just him and his buddy.
By far the most obvious one if you really think about it. They're moving *tons* of material in some of these builds. That's not accomplished with 2 sticks and 4 hands in any reasonable amount of time. At least if you're using modern shovels and wheelbarrows and stuff you could maybe see a few people doing it over the course of weeks.
They aren't "cool". They are stupid holes in the ground that would be of no practical use to real primitive peoples because stagnant groundwater without filtration/constant replenishment quickly becomes filthy and full of mosquito larvae.
I once had to lower a metre-deep pit by an extra 30cm across a 7x4 metre area by hand with nothing but a shovel, a small pick and a wheel barrow. The amount of dirt produced in just that tiny amount of digging was incredible, not to mention that the work itself was very hard, and that was with proper metal tools and not just a slightly sharpened stick.
Absolutely. Just look at Colin Furze taking years to excavate a few dozen feet of tunnel under his home. He did it without the neighbors finding out--no heavy machinery in sight!
Primitive videos are LEGIT the best. They give you actual survival techniques as well as showing how the Celts and all that would have survived!
I still remember the first time I came across primitive technology video it was 2016-2017 and got me hooked which after a couple of years YT being YT started seeing lots and lots of channels which to be honest is lacking the main purpose is to understand how its done
The fact Primitive Technology does this in Australia where literally everything there wants you dead is that much more impressive
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aye bro that just like this ngl czcams.com/video/j88vDrB2TmQ/video.html
that's how you make your caveman ancestors proud!
@Inspired.By.Michael did you witness any spiders or snakes coming from your toilet
@@oks8568 same with florida. I wade through swamps barefoot and I haven't so much as even seen a water moccasin
A friend, a civil engineer, built a water filtration system for a village in Mexico using only "locally sourced" materials. Local means they could dig it out or cut it down and haul it to the site. There were saws and steel chisels and surveying instruments in use.
It took him and most of the village several months of working part time to build the system. It wasn't fancy, but it made potable water and could be maintained by the village.
No alligators, water slides or underground hidden mansions ... just clean water.
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"how wasteful, a village in Mexico could have eaten those alligators"
how do I get involved in something like that
@@quantumblauthor7300 this aint africa
@Luis Suazo It was for a village in Nayarit - The water was from a small creek that was not biologically safe to drink.
I remember a couple years ago I forgot Primitive Technology's name and when I searched for it I ended up seeing a bunch of these fake ones. I immediately knew something was wrong, mostly because the thumbnails/results were wildly too polished, among other things. I was really sad too because I happened to be when PT was on hiatus and it looked like he had gotten pushed out by dozens of knock offs cheating for flashier videos and getting massive view counts. I was so happy when I saw PT return because it had left a bad taste in my mouth the whole time
I feel like a massive giveaway should always be their upload schedule. If a build takes over 100 days, and there's 365 days in a year...
I was legitimately anxious when I clicked on this video, worrying that Primitive Technology himself was cheating. I’ve loved that channel since I found it years ago, and was so impressed, it was the first time I ever used patreon. I had no idea there even were any other copycats, but seeing them for the first time in this video, it was immediately obvious that it was nonsense. Glad Primitive Technology is keeping up his work! Thanks for making this video!
Yes, well-put video. As a civil/structural engineer, I was never convinced with the Southeast Asian Primitive Build channels' builds- too precise considering the tools available, no soil corrosion, water unnaturally blue, amount of manpower, etc as mentioned. But then again, it should be fairly obvious there's MORE involved in their projects than what they're letting on and not being truthful even if the viewer has no engineering/architecture/construction background.
Reading through the comments on these videos, one thing that helps them fool people is the exotic location. People believe the soil in southeast Asia is more diggable and comprised of something that makes concrete, even if they have experience trying to dig a hole in their own yards where they live.
In a few you could actually see tracks from what I assume was excavators. I pointed it out and people freaked out saying I was talking shit and that it was absolutely possible, "with the power of the mind", for 1-2 guys to do all that by hand.
Ah shit, are we crumbling the virgin forest for views??? Fucking AI will kill us and we'll be applauding it.
The truth is that most of these can be done by one person. However, that will take ages. The point of the channel is to make money. if there are shortcuts to produce a better product in a short time, why not do it. The issue is money. The O.G primitive channel was a person who was fascinated by primitive technology. The others just want the money from youtube.
well the blue water comes from the floors being painted blue
The only channel other than Primitive Technology that I watch is Primitive Life, one of very few other channels that seem legit. Unfortunately he stopped posting a couple years ago. (Note, that's Primitive Life, not Primitive Technology Life.)
7:40 pretty sure i hear some stellaris music in the background lol
I absolutely love Primitive Technology and have been watching John for years. I am so glad he’s back and getting some much deserved recognition and respect from other community members. It’s easy to see him as isolated because of the nature of his videos and I’m happy people are giving him the much deserved kudos
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@@Sockren lmao hows that a bad thing
Dang poor dude 5 replies, 2 bots, 1 guy mocking him ,1 guy talking about bots and 1 guy responding to the guy talking about bots
Has no one ever turned on the closed captions on primitive technology’s videos. He walks through the science and techniques of what he’s doing. Not just digging holes and making mud like all these other channels
i remember explicitly not turning the captions on cause i liked to be confused and surprised whenever the pieces finally came together
@@Crosshill Don't just remember, start watching again. He's back to making videos again. :P
For a long time, I didn't put captions on. Then one day they just happened to be on from another video when I started his and my mind was blown. Won't watch it any other way now. I even go back and watched the older ones this way. Such a different experience!
@@billlange9408 Yea I really like the explanations in the captions. Gives nice extra information that you can't get from just watching. And it doesn't detract from the calm and relaxing atmosphere of the videos.
Everybody turns on captions, I swear, it’s the number 1 thing to do on his vids
I always thought it was weird that the water went through bamboo even though bamboo has walls every so often that would block the water.
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I love john and I'm happy to hear most find him to be genuine