It's not about the money, like he said, he has endless trunks of it. It's the fact that he lost to a school teacher that he couldn't come to terms with lmao
Fishman was an even better math professor! First day of class he’d make everyone write their name on a playing card and while lecturing he’d occasionally stop and pull a card, if it had your name you had to answer the question. Made me pay attention haha! Really cool, down to earth dude.
It's actually a world famous pedagogical trick (teacher from Sweden here) - Dylan Williams was the origin for that. I do the same for my students... They always think the deck is rigged. (Sorry for the comment being of topic)
@@luigiff3431He wasn’t out bro. It’s a cash game so he can rebuy in as much as he wants & knowing his rich bratty ass? I’m beyond sure he’d have re-bought in for more money if in fact he lost all of his stacks in that 1 hand vs the math teacher. I think OP is kinda spot on 75% & also I think Perkins was still tryin to dig in a lil towards Phil 25% lol
@@berekexer8158 To be fair to hellmuth, Perkins broke the unwritten rule of poker. You dont say shit like "good reads tho" to the loser when its not your cards being played. You should be quiet. The winner can say that shit, not the guy who folds.
@@arthurhouston5685 too many ppl don't isolate with it & think they can beat multiple ppl drawing. But then if u do u get the problem where they all just fold & u make very little off it 😂
@@jasonandrus12 Exactly why he did it. Pocket rockets are the best preflop starting hand against any particular player, but against multiple players it's more likely than not to get drawn out by somebody. Bet aces aggressively preflop to isolate.
The fact that they understood that that is life changing money for him and has no Ill will towards him folding was absolutely commendable. Respect to the poker stars
Not that hard of a guess in this case. Only reason to go all in is a bluff or nuts. Only cards that provide nuts are KQ. If they are clubs that means he's flopped a flush draw as well so more likely to see the river. But yeah, top level pros are really good at figuring what you likely have based on how you played your hand.
I don’t think I’ve ever been happier to see someone win. What a nice man. I still can’t believe he folded aces pre flop and quad sixes won. He trusted his gut.
I don't even play Poker, but between Perkins putting Helmuth in his place and the amazing AA fold, and the beautiful phone call at the end, this might be my favorite CZcams video of all time.
Took his class at ASU the year that he was on this. Couldn't tell the class until it aired. One of the smartest and inspiring individuals I met in college. He survived bone cancer and had a metal rod in his leg and still ran marathons. Definition of humility.
Yes I know we’ve all seen it 100 times but come on, a school teacher comes on and gets max value from Phil hellmuth and folds aces pre flop and then laak hits quads. Pretty entertaining
@@bluedonkey180 It's a great play if you want to have a literal 0% chance of losing more than the blinds for the rest of the event, which is exactly what the LC wanted at that point. In the words of Perkins: "He's. A. Schoolteacher." And he has life-changing money in front of him. I completely respect him not wanting to risk it at that point.
@@bluedonkey180 I think the point he’s making is that it’s good tv. Lol these $1/2NL players coming on here to talk strategy. Stfu and go back to your zynga poker play money account.
Bro this moment in poker history is awesome, i love when people who struggle all day everyday gets blessed in ways like this, they deserv it so much! That call back home after the win was so wholesome. Dude got my respect!
Gosh. I love watching David Fishman's episode. It's such a feel good video. He wins a great amount of money and deserves it. He's a humble, likeable guy. And in terms of content, laying down Pocket Aces Pre-Flop. ALSO goes down as a legendary moment
@@ThouArtOfWar0724 The original commenter talked about how they respected him and were empathetic. They did have a choice. they could have been rude or annoyed or told him he was being pathetic or whatever. They didnt. They have no choice but to ACCEPT he did that, but thats not what op said.
Every once and a while the universe aligns and focuses a beam of energy on the right guy. Phil hellmuth getting his mojo tilted was just icing on the cake. The greatest part is Fishman could see how special this was. He didn't gloat, he showed genuine gratitude for what happened.
@@Dan-fj5zp If by "garbage" you mean there is some degree of luck involved in both, then yes. Other than using mathematical probability to improve your odds of winning, they have little in common in terms of game theory and strategy. Poker has little to do with garbage luck. it's a psychological game. There is a reason the same group of pros always end up at the final table, and that's due to their demonstrated skill, not their luck. There's also a reason I've taken more money from the house playing black jack with a 4 deck shoot than the house has taken from me. With a little math and empirical observation, "luck" is always on your side.
18:10 You can tell as soon as he realized the other guys were reading his exact reaction he just bailed. Just had a gut reaction and laid it down. And it ended up saving him!
I've done that very thing in online games more than once. But I would never do it sitting at a live table. I do it because of the algorithms used in online cards. It pays off more often than not
Such a great story... not sure how many people would have decided to fold massive hands like that... the composure in such a spotlight is really awesome.
This is actually a monumental piece of television... The story and characters and even their conflict, all top notch. You couldn't write it better. Then the guy actually got dealt AA and KK... The call at then, the lessons learned... Beautiful.
My eternal respect to Perkins for saying it like it is, staying real, staying human and respecting the one guy at that table who's entire future depends on these few hours Obviously, even more eternal respect to Mr. Fishman
You think $129,000 pre tax is gonna affect an ASU professors entire future…. Hahaha I mean I’m sure the $80k or so will be nice but it isn’t going to change his entire future like he’s a bum making minimum wage.
@@magicmillhouse9586 Hard disagree. I worked my way up to 40k and that changed my life drastically. Once you have enough that you can spare some for decent investments, your life is set up to be changed forever. $80k after tax can lead to millionaire status if spent properly.
@@magicmillhouse9586 You act like 129k can't buy your way to success.. Almost as if a child was imagining what to spend his $129,000 on at the toy store rather than investing. You got the wrong perspective on money, my friend. You're stuck in your consumer thoughts.
@@magicmillhouse9586 If you have 80 grand just dumped into your bank account that you can invest it can be life changing. Enough money to start a business not life changing? Enough money to take years off work and go to school?
The last bit where he’s folding great hands because he’s just realized what he’s won… big respect to the guy for playing that Oscar winning hand and all the best in the future.
@@since1876 that’s an awesome story and such a great way to look at your win. Mature guy now, but wish I’d learned that lesson earlier. I’ve made and lost and made it back again in life… the first time around I was 22… the second time around 35… it took me 13 years and a lot of pain to get it back and learn humility… Right now I’m banking a lot of what I made in the last 2-3yrs (investments) and friends are going all in while calling me crazy… I just tell them “I lost everything in ‘08, and this feels like ‘08 again… I’m happy to come out on top and wait for things to calm down”. Nobody ever lost money taking profit early.
@@ChrisM-qo1jc good luck man! Never take more than you can lose and don't chase your loses. If you're playing something other than poker, the casino is always going to beat you. You stand a chance on Texas Hold'em but better be dayum good! Wishing the best to you
@@josephedlin2172 depends on the profit amount and inflation. If the bank paid you 3% this year, you would till be losing 5% with inflation, maybe more
The moment where the Business man is yelling too Hellmuth "...endless trunks of money!" is priceless. Laak is just laughing and Hellmuth is just pissed: epic poker moment.
@@markcab2055 Because when Phil wins, its because he's the best poker player in the history of the world, and when he loses, its because the dealer is screwing him with bad cards or because the other players don't play exactly how he wants them to. Biggest crybaby in poker.
@@JBHipple Exactly. PH literally thinks he should win every time and if it doesn't happen it's someone else's fault. Even after deducing the guy likely had him beat with KQ.
@Jack Caserta Well, he wasn't yelling it due to it being a step-down in job quality or anything, he was emphasizing it because of the disparaging salary difference between Fishman and Hellmuth. There's no way any school teacher in the world would be making anywhere near the amount the top poker players in the world are making with their 'loads of money.' That's the meaning behind the emphasis of "He's a school teacher."
@Jack Caserta its not, hes pointing out that the 86k he just won is fucking insane, because teachers make about 50k a year, he just made and entire year and half worth of salary in one hand, meanwhile hellmuth is a multimillionaire, 86k is pennies on the dollar, he can piss that away and nothing would change for him
I'd say this is the most amazing hero fold in poker history. Most of the hundreds, thousands of super plays by professionals will be forgotten in a long period of time, but this will be remembered as a legendary lesson to all who plays poker as a gambling.
17:18 - 17:43 Never loved Perkins more than this speech. Nothing against Phil ... but ..."he's a school teacher, and you have endless TRUNKS of money!"
No, everything against Phil. He’s right. A school teacher comes in and makes a life changing amount of money playing poker and Phil (net worth of $20 million) has the audacity it bitch about it like he’s gonna go bankrupt from it. An absolutely spoiled brat is what Hellmuth is.
Bring back The Big Game! The formula was simple but amazing: get the most entertaining pros and introduce an amateur in the mix to spice up the action and give the folks at home somebody to root for.
never seen much of Perkins before but after this he's definitely a favorite. What a class act, he was so nice to the cannon and even defended him against Phil. a total stand up guy who seemed to be genuinely having fun the whole time
Perkins didn’t do anything wrong, Hellmuth’s read was perfect. That said, it’s very surprising he called it to a loose cannon after putting him on his exact hand. Great for Fishman. Also, having the discipline to fold AA and KK after getting where he needed to be is crazy. The devil was tempting him hard.
@@okiejohn3925 he should have shoved the aces and kings pre, that way he's happy with a call or fold instead of trying to squeeze out max value against much better postflop players
@@bluedonkey180 yes, theoretically thats correct. But there is a reason we can approach this theoretically; we do not have life changing money at stake. He does. One wrong call, even though it’s theoretically correct, and there goes your profit. He didn’t want to take the risk, not even a ~75% chance, because that’s still 25% of runouts that make you lose money.
@@iwannaseenow1 how was it degrading, it was a stab at Phil to humble himself. Cause he didn't seem to understand, or care. He does that when he loses a hand always, so it's kinda the norm, but he really does lack humility and believes everyone is a joke that calls him.
Why did he fold them though I feel like I’m missing something. Does he somehow know what the other guys are holding? What possible reason is there to fold the best possible hold cards?
not only did he outplay some great players, but once he got to the right number, he was able to keep it and resist great hands while still at the table because he knew the money he had was enough to change his life. That dude's a very rare individual, props.
@@ryanith2 Just because he OWNS a house worth so much doesn’t mean that he’s flush with cash. For all we know, he could be on the verge of not being to make his next home mortgage payment!
It's rare to see a situation where someone gets a windfall in hand and makes the conscious decision to take it and walk away with it. I'm very happy for Mr. Fishman and this is instantly one of my favorite videos.
Throwing away those aces was so crazy in the best way possible. Dude more than doubled his money already, and knew that even with a golden opportunity he still didn't want to risk it.
I've always said, "in certain spots it's actually good to fold pocket Aces preflop". This situation is THAT situation. When you're in a tourney and you'd rather gamble on flops and not the chance of getting sucked out doing something drastic preflop.
No it’s not. The spot to fold AA pre is in a satellite when all winners get same and multiple ppl all in. Here he should just rip it all in and then turn over his cards so nobody calls (if he didn’t wanna risk taking a flop)
@@andyshaw8870 Laak would never call with a small pocket pair lol. In fact he'd certainly put him on exactly AA knowing he wouldn't even shove KK in that spot
@@cial67 Laak at that point knew he was playing tight but he didn’t know how tight. Also, there’s the possibility that fishman would use that perspective on him to his advantage. So if Laak had kings queens or AK, in that situation. Who knows what he would’ve called. By your logic. He could’ve shoved the next 8 hands and won them all because everyone else would’ve just asssumed he had pocket aces each time? ??? It’s the poker table. Anything can happen at any time. Games on.
He's good at not letting people know what's going on in his head. He plays stupid when he's smart and strong when weak, weak when strong, they give him two choices and he does a lateral. Sun Tzu would be proud.
@@daltooinewestwood6380 The thing is, i would ve thought he is intentinally overselling it and shaking his hands and stuff to make me think that he is intentionally doing it to hide his bad hand lol. I would mind fuck myself
Lol, if you play for fake money, that's because its rigged, they give you pocket aces so you raise big, then there is always a straight. You're out of chips and you repurchase. Rince and repeat. Fake money poker is not remotely like real poker.
@@rileypearson8697 You can't count cards in a poker game. The deck is shuffled between every hand. All you can know is the cards that have been shown and yours
I was not aware that in this kind of game you could just cash in your chips and bug out. Folding pocket aces preflop makes more sense now. Lovely to see how much the money means to him and his family and I wish him all the best.
I love that they call this guy the loose cannon and he makes several clutch folds, wins full value from a steaming helmuth and then folds pocket aces followed by pocket kings in one of the most unpredictable shows of restraint I've ever seen in poker.
One of the worst, most amateur acting jobs I have ever seen with the straight against Hellmuth. Just awful, and Hellmuth was dumb enough to fall for it.
@@MrJamberee "Hellmuth was dumb enough to fall for it." how you know why he fold it? can you read minds watching youtube clips? you dont think helmuth knows who this guy is? i know, sorry, probably too many question at once for you. btw. helmuth is one of the best actors in pro poker, just sayin.!
@@MrJamberee It felt like a pretty classic "shrug bet" to me, but it's a lot easier to make that call with the benefit of perfect knowledge. Besides at a high level you can easily second guess that as deliberately attempting to feign a common tell knowing that an advanced player would pick it up, a la the goblet duel in the Princess Bride.
That is not restraint, that is called being a bad poker player. I suppose it could be seen as restraint in terms of he is aware he is a bad player and knows he does not know how to play pocket AA or pocket KK. I didn't see the Kings( his play was just too terrible to keep watching) so idk the situation but the AA fold was just flat out bad. His goal should be to get all his chips in the middle with a call from 1 person. That is always your goal with AA preflop if anyone else is acting aggressive. You are currently winning and getting the most chips in when you are CURRENTLY winning is all that matters in poker. Tournament structure changes that slightly but its extremely slightly. Hos fold was a shitty fold and acting like it was a good move is equal to someone pushing all in with 7 2 offset against AA and sucking out for the win. Its a bad play regardless if you won that single hand because single hands are meaningless. A mathematician should by all means know all this as its trivial poker theory so it stands to reason he is just a bad player, likely due to fear. He folded AA because he was early and simply does not know how to play it. Preflop folding AA is NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER WVWR the right move lol.. ever!
the only case in which he did the right thing is if he was in way over his depth and couldnt afford to lose, which brings into question his prior bets. aces there was a positive bet for him as long as he could take the variance of outcomes, and if he coudlnt afford the variance of outcomes then why was he making far more reckless bets earlier? guy had no business being there with that mentality and made a terrible decision probabilistically
@@cv9672 Can you at least bother to look up what the show is before spouting nonsense off? In this show, the random person is staked $100k vs 5 pros who supply their own money. They only get to keep the propfits, aka everything above $100k, but 100k and below they have nothing to lose. The CORRECT play for someone who can't afford to play high stakes poker on their own is to do EXACTLY what Fisherman did. It's why someone with a 100k bankroll doesn't sit at those tables-- because if variance fucks you, you can't do anything about it.
I'd definitely had played that Ace Pairs and King Pairs. Though the Ace pair would probably tilt me so hard and that's why he's there and I'm here. Well played Mr. Math Teacher. Well played. That ending was so wholesome.
He made an smart decission. When he realized folding all hands would make him win a life changing amount of money, he was mentally strong enough to really fold everything regardless of how strong was his hand preflop.
I've lost a number of times on pocket Aces...I'll usually stay in with pocket Aces (or any pocket pair for that matter) until I see a flop, then go from there. Fishman's style is similar to my own, chaotic at times, and I choose which hands to play not only by odds but based on what's happening with the pot, among other factors too numerous to mention. No matter how you slice it, success in poker is still largely dependent on luck...enjoy watching him play.
He bluffed his way through the game to win big time. The fact that he stopped when he did tells people he did it for his family. All my respect, Fishman.
His ability to walk away from the cards he was getting and just stunning, far more then his general play. There are not a lot of people that could do that.
Hurray for the teacher. Makes a big score for his family playing the odds. I remember hitting a $ 30 k hand on the way to the circus with the family on a $6 bet Caribbean poker back in late 90s. Really came in handy that winter. Every family man who works hard for a living deserves to hit a jackpot for his kids. The feelings unreal with a good woman and children in your life God gave you. Just don't get lost beating the house
Noone gonna talk about how a guy called fish-man actually beat all the sharks? :D Superstoked for the guy! Amazing, and i love how he threw those Aces and Kings... Definitely a guy i'd like to see more of!
@@addenanda nah, there were plenty of hands that could have beat him: pocket pair matching anything on the board, KQ of any other suit, 3-4 of any suit, AJ or A10. He called the KQ of clubs because that was the most likely hand for him to have to still be in the pot at that point, based on how he'd been betting. Watch the pros, they do this all the time, it's why they are pros because they can read other people's hands.
@@jeffwei No, he's a great player he saw very fast he was on the flush (immediate reaction when he loses was "if a clubs comes i wouldn't lose a dime here"). So then only KQ would beat him, makes perfect sense.
@@markh9246 it’s obvious when you can see the cards and work backwards from that, that would be one possible hand judging by the board but that’s a good read first guess
His laugh at the end when talking to his wife was absolutely precious 😭
It's a laugh of disbelief "I cant believe that just happened"
i like how he said "i'm coming home to you and the kids", like, was there a chance you were gonna take the money and bail on them?lol
omg that had me tear up
Knew he was good with what he had and folded two good draws not to risk losing any
1000th like 😂
"You have endless trunks of money, he's a school teacher." One of my favorite come backs ever lol.
It's not about the money, like he said, he has endless trunks of it. It's the fact that he lost to a school teacher that he couldn't come to terms with lmao
@@giraffeorganic Classic Phil.
That’s funny
@@giraffeorganicin fairness, Fishman is a math teacher, so there really isn’t a better option for a teacher.
@@ianalex9062 it’s not blackjack…
Perkins gets my ultimate respect for telling Phil off....realizing the reality of the situation...AMAZING.
Totally agree!
Time Stamp?
17:30
As soon as the movie banter started I knew Perkins was a real one.
IDK. 'Good read btw' was even more funny.
Fishman was an even better math professor! First day of class he’d make everyone write their name on a playing card and while lecturing he’d occasionally stop and pull a card, if it had your name you had to answer the question. Made me pay attention haha! Really cool, down to earth dude.
that's cool!
How cool! 😊 I‘m glad you got to experience that!
wow i wish my math teacher beat Phil Helmuth at poker
It's actually a world famous pedagogical trick (teacher from Sweden here) - Dylan Williams was the origin for that. I do the same for my students... They always think the deck is rigged. (Sorry for the comment being of topic)
My kids sit in groups of 4 around 6 tables. I have a six sided die and a four sided die. I roll dice on the students' tables to randomly pick.
17:30 Love Perkins reaction! What a boss for standing up for the "school teacher" - the man may be a millionaire, but he's got a heart.
He's just doing it to tilt Hellmuth lol. That's half the skill in high stakes poker is knowing how to needle opponents and maintain your own balance.
@@berekexer8158hellmuth was basically out at that point, no reason to tilt the guy
Hillmouth is exhausting
@@luigiff3431He wasn’t out bro. It’s a cash game so he can rebuy in as much as he wants & knowing his rich bratty ass? I’m beyond sure he’d have re-bought in for more money if in fact he lost all of his stacks in that 1 hand vs the math teacher. I think OP is kinda spot on 75% & also I think Perkins was still tryin to dig in a lil towards Phil 25% lol
@@berekexer8158 To be fair to hellmuth, Perkins broke the unwritten rule of poker.
You dont say shit like "good reads tho" to the loser when its not your cards being played. You should be quiet. The winner can say that shit, not the guy who folds.
folded the best hand in poker because he didn't wanna risk it for his wife and kids this man is a legend.
For the "best hand in poker" it sure loses quite a lot for some reason. 🤣 I'm part of the group that's gets so unlucky with AA preflop.
more like a deadly trap... i`ve seen pair aces lose more times than pocket 2s
Or the dealer was stacking the deck and warned him.
@@arthurhouston5685 too many ppl don't isolate with it & think they can beat multiple ppl drawing. But then if u do u get the problem where they all just fold & u make very little off it 😂
@@jasonandrus12 Exactly why he did it. Pocket rockets are the best preflop starting hand against any particular player, but against multiple players it's more likely than not to get drawn out by somebody. Bet aces aggressively preflop to isolate.
Man, him folding pocket Aces only for the flop to give the other dude 4 6's... That's insane. The universe was watchin out for him
You got it backwards, he was watching out for the universe.
that was just dumb luck, he folded the Kings next and he woulda won.
@@Sugarsail1 we don't know that there still a chance he could of lost if he played the Ks
That fold was to study the opposition dude. He was reading the opposition and planting his image in their heads.
@@pralayaryan You do know that it is obvious why he folded, and that is not the reason, right?
The fact that they understood that that is life changing money for him and has no Ill will towards him folding was absolutely commendable. Respect to the poker stars
Not only is he a teacher, but he’s a phenomenal teacher. Loved being in his class
Bet you’re a liar
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No way, what’d he teach? Any good stories?!?
@@amicablefire9693 Maths (from the title)
same
Phil helmuth's ability to pick out people's cards is amazing. and his ability to lose is so beautiful
His ability to have memorable tilt is also beautiful 🤣
Negraneu is another genius at picking cards out
Not that hard of a guess in this case. Only reason to go all in is a bluff or nuts. Only cards that provide nuts are KQ. If they are clubs that means he's flopped a flush draw as well so more likely to see the river. But yeah, top level pros are really good at figuring what you likely have based on how you played your hand.
Yeah, but Phil’s ability to win at poker is perhaps the greatest of all time. The guy’s on another level, even if it’s fun to watch him tantrum.
He even told him the exact odds. 6%
I don’t think I’ve ever been happier to see someone win. What a nice man. I still can’t believe he folded aces pre flop and quad sixes won. He trusted his gut.
I don't even play Poker, but between Perkins putting Helmuth in his place and the amazing AA fold, and the beautiful phone call at the end, this might be my favorite CZcams video of all time.
Took his class at ASU the year that he was on this. Couldn't tell the class until it aired. One of the smartest and inspiring individuals I met in college. He survived bone cancer and had a metal rod in his leg and still ran marathons. Definition of humility.
damn didnt think I could like the guy any more after watching his game play but this right here.
This guy is a legend in the poker world, it's actually amazing to read a story like this 10 years later, amazing.
Hope I can buy him a beer one day. Real men are always humble.
Ah so he wasn't a "school teacher," he was a "math professor." Big difference!
If his life was a TV show it'd be Breaking Good
Yes I know we’ve all seen it 100 times but come on, a school teacher comes on and gets max value from Phil hellmuth and folds aces pre flop and then laak hits quads. Pretty entertaining
Laying down the AA is divine intervention. Wow!
folding AA and then KK is a terrible play and you shouldn't do it. Don't be results oriented.
@@bluedonkey180 It's a great play if you want to have a literal 0% chance of losing more than the blinds for the rest of the event, which is exactly what the LC wanted at that point. In the words of Perkins: "He's. A. Schoolteacher." And he has life-changing money in front of him. I completely respect him not wanting to risk it at that point.
@@bluedonkey180 I think the point he’s making is that it’s good tv. Lol these $1/2NL players coming on here to talk strategy. Stfu and go back to your zynga poker play money account.
@@esol927 but still its a bad play!...
Bro this moment in poker history is awesome, i love when people who struggle all day everyday gets blessed in ways like this, they deserv it so much! That call back home after the win was so wholesome. Dude got my respect!
Gosh. I love watching David Fishman's episode. It's such a feel good video. He wins a great amount of money and deserves it. He's a humble, likeable guy. And in terms of content, laying down Pocket Aces Pre-Flop. ALSO goes down as a legendary moment
I like how some of those pros really respected how he decided to play it really safe. They were empathetic.
They have no choice you can't dictate how someone else plays their money.
@@ThouArtOfWar0724 maybe peruse the original comment again
@@sore_forey9259 Maybe pursue what I said again.
@@ThouArtOfWar0724 lol peruse is a word... he did not mean pursue.. unless you mean we should all chase after what you said again?
@@ThouArtOfWar0724 The original commenter talked about how they respected him and were empathetic. They did have a choice. they could have been rude or annoyed or told him he was being pathetic or whatever. They didnt.
They have no choice but to ACCEPT he did that, but thats not what op said.
Every once and a while the universe aligns and focuses a beam of energy on the right guy. Phil hellmuth getting his mojo tilted was just icing on the cake. The greatest part is Fishman could see how special this was. He didn't gloat, he showed genuine gratitude for what happened.
Only lifetime spoiled rich boys gloat.
It was all luck. You saw the cards he was getting. Anyone on this planet was banking with those cards
@@Dan-fj5zp Okay, but I fail to see how this relates to what I said.
@@Datsun510zen nothing other than poker is just as much garbage as playing black jack
@@Dan-fj5zp If by "garbage" you mean there is some degree of luck involved in both, then yes. Other than using mathematical probability to improve your odds of winning, they have little in common in terms of game theory and strategy. Poker has little to do with garbage luck. it's a psychological game. There is a reason the same group of pros always end up at the final table, and that's due to their demonstrated skill, not their luck. There's also a reason I've taken more money from the house playing black jack with a 4 deck shoot than the house has taken from me. With a little math and empirical observation, "luck" is always on your side.
seeing someone win life changing money like that is so awesome. I have total respect for the guy standing up for him to Phil
I love coming back to this it’s so genuine his happiness and the emotion you can’t fake that… love it
Definition of a Chad. Folds pocket aces and kings to ensure he brings it all home to his wife and kids. What a unit. This man has balls of steel.
18:10 You can tell as soon as he realized the other guys were reading his exact reaction he just bailed. Just had a gut reaction and laid it down. And it ended up saving him!
Why even look at his cards? 😂 The AA was a good fold but the KK wasn't based on Williams' stack size.
That fold with aces was legendary, was like the universe confirming to this man “yeah you got it”
That is the best fold in poker I have ever seen
なぜAズ降りれんの?😮
@@tristanbrowning4042 Any flush beats his straight so no it's not a big deal
I've done that very thing in online games more than once. But I would never do it sitting at a live table. I do it because of the algorithms used in online cards. It pays off more often than not
@@loui7210 not really, just dumb luck on a dumbass fold
Such a great story... not sure how many people would have decided to fold massive hands like that... the composure in such a spotlight is really awesome.
This is actually a monumental piece of television... The story and characters and even their conflict, all top notch. You couldn't write it better.
Then the guy actually got dealt AA and KK... The call at then, the lessons learned... Beautiful.
My eternal respect to Perkins for saying it like it is, staying real, staying human and respecting the one guy at that table who's entire future depends on these few hours
Obviously, even more eternal respect to Mr. Fishman
You think $129,000 pre tax is gonna affect an ASU professors entire future…. Hahaha I mean I’m sure the $80k or so will be nice but it isn’t going to change his entire future like he’s a bum making minimum wage.
@@magicmillhouse9586 Hard disagree. I worked my way up to 40k and that changed my life drastically. Once you have enough that you can spare some for decent investments, your life is set up to be changed forever. $80k after tax can lead to millionaire status if spent properly.
@@velatoget exactly if you know how to spend the money correctly your life is set.
@@magicmillhouse9586 You act like 129k can't buy your way to success.. Almost as if a child was imagining what to spend his $129,000 on at the toy store rather than investing. You got the wrong perspective on money, my friend. You're stuck in your consumer thoughts.
@@magicmillhouse9586 If you have 80 grand just dumped into your bank account that you can invest it can be life changing. Enough money to start a business not life changing? Enough money to take years off work and go to school?
The last bit where he’s folding great hands because he’s just realized what he’s won… big respect to the guy for playing that Oscar winning hand and all the best in the future.
@@since1876 that’s an awesome story and such a great way to look at your win. Mature guy now, but wish I’d learned that lesson earlier.
I’ve made and lost and made it back again in life… the first time around I was 22… the second time around 35… it took me 13 years and a lot of pain to get it back and learn humility…
Right now I’m banking a lot of what I made in the last 2-3yrs (investments) and friends are going all in while calling me crazy…
I just tell them “I lost everything in ‘08, and this feels like ‘08 again… I’m happy to come out on top and wait for things to calm down”.
Nobody ever lost money taking profit early.
@@since1876 as someone struggling with game addiction that last part was so inspiring. Thank you for your story
@@ChrisM-qo1jc good luck man! Never take more than you can lose and don't chase your loses. If you're playing something other than poker, the casino is always going to beat you. You stand a chance on Texas Hold'em but better be dayum good! Wishing the best to you
@@josephedlin2172 depends on the profit amount and inflation. If the bank paid you 3% this year, you would till be losing 5% with inflation, maybe more
When he saw all those 6's he knew the devil was out to get him, you can see it all on his face, lol!
I watched him fold those aces live. Couldn’t believe that hand🤯🤯🤯🤯
Phil getting upset when he’s complimented for a great read is hilarious
The moment where the Business man is yelling too Hellmuth "...endless trunks of money!" is priceless. Laak is just laughing and Hellmuth is just pissed: epic poker moment.
The best was like dude was straight marinading all of them by giving the most mixed signals I have ever seen
Watching Hellmuth through the years, seems he is always pissed.
@@markcab2055 Because when Phil wins, its because he's the best poker player in the history of the world, and when he loses, its because the dealer is screwing him with bad cards or because the other players don't play exactly how he wants them to. Biggest crybaby in poker.
@@JBHipple Exactly. PH literally thinks he should win every time and if it doesn't happen it's someone else's fault. Even after deducing the guy likely had him beat with KQ.
@@markcab2055 if he is always like that, that isn't being pissed, that is just a personality.
Perkins with "He is a school teacher!" always cracks me up
Because not all heros make a ton of money.
🤣🤣🤣”screamingll do you a lot of good” coming from the guy who was screaming 5 seconds ago 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"...great read btw, you had him"
@Jack Caserta Well, he wasn't yelling it due to it being a step-down in job quality or anything, he was emphasizing it because of the disparaging salary difference between Fishman and Hellmuth.
There's no way any school teacher in the world would be making anywhere near the amount the top poker players in the world are making with their 'loads of money.' That's the meaning behind the emphasis of "He's a school teacher."
@Jack Caserta its not, hes pointing out that the 86k he just won is fucking insane, because teachers make about 50k a year, he just made and entire year and half worth of salary in one hand, meanwhile hellmuth is a multimillionaire, 86k is pennies on the dollar, he can piss that away and nothing would change for him
I'd say this is the most amazing hero fold in poker history. Most of the hundreds, thousands of super plays by professionals will be forgotten in a long period of time, but this will be remembered as a legendary lesson to all who plays poker as a gambling.
Being able to not get griddy and lose all the money again needs a strong character. He folded packs of aces and kings 💀
17:18 - 17:43 Never loved Perkins more than this speech. Nothing against Phil ... but ..."he's a school teacher, and you have endless TRUNKS of money!"
No, everything against Phil. He’s right. A school teacher comes in and makes a life changing amount of money playing poker and Phil (net worth of $20 million) has the audacity it bitch about it like he’s gonna go bankrupt from it. An absolutely spoiled brat is what Hellmuth is.
@@jomama969 facts
How can you not have anything against Phil? Hes suuuuuuch an asshole.
Bring back The Big Game! The formula was simple but amazing: get the most entertaining pros and introduce an amateur in the mix to spice up the action and give the folks at home somebody to root for.
absolutely. it’s a shame they haven’t brought it back. they’re missing out on a huge show
hope so
It's hard now with online poker being not as legal as it was.
Throw me in that shit
@@OMGitsBMX Dido I'm with you on that... I think one of us will give'm a run for their bag/💰/money...
Perkins’ face to Phil when Fishman goes all in against him at 15:55 😂😂😂
He's on coke lmao 😹
never seen much of Perkins before but after this he's definitely a favorite. What a class act, he was so nice to the cannon and even defended him against Phil. a total stand up guy who seemed to be genuinely having fun the whole time
Perkins didn’t do anything wrong, Hellmuth’s read was perfect. That said, it’s very surprising he called it to a loose cannon after putting him on his exact hand. Great for Fishman.
Also, having the discipline to fold AA and KK after getting where he needed to be is crazy. The devil was tempting him hard.
Yes,m entertaining table play on this one.
should have shoved the aces and kings
Yeah, the evil poker gods were trying their best to get him to bust himself...
@@okiejohn3925 he should have shoved the aces and kings pre, that way he's happy with a call or fold instead of trying to squeeze out max value against much better postflop players
@@bluedonkey180 yes, theoretically thats correct. But there is a reason we can approach this theoretically; we do not have life changing money at stake.
He does. One wrong call, even though it’s theoretically correct, and there goes your profit. He didn’t want to take the risk, not even a ~75% chance, because that’s still 25% of runouts that make you lose money.
What a great story! I love how he was defended “HE’S A SCHOOL TEACHER!” Lol. Awesome. That ending almost had me teary eyed.
“Almost”? You are lying… I cried.
I thought that was degrading. OK, maybe mention it once, but to keep yelling it?
Endless....trunks...of money!!
@@iwannaseenow1 how was it degrading, it was a stab at Phil to humble himself. Cause he didn't seem to understand, or care.
He does that when he loses a hand always, so it's kinda the norm, but he really does lack humility and believes everyone is a joke that calls him.
Bill perkins is annoying
That pocket Aces fold was just magical. That was true test of his faith(if he believes).
Why did he fold them though I feel like I’m missing something. Does he somehow know what the other guys are holding? What possible reason is there to fold the best possible hold cards?
What legend of proffesor,how he smails at the end.
Heart full of joy.
not only did he outplay some great players, but once he got to the right number, he was able to keep it and resist great hands while still at the table because he knew the money he had was enough to change his life. That dude's a very rare individual, props.
It’s a weird game format.
He's a prof at ASU his house is probably worth 6 times the net of 92,235 he took home. Nowhere close to life changing money.
@@ryanith2 if it wasn’t life changing he would have called with the Aces.
@@TheGillenium it's just risk assessment. He's just locking profits. Doesn't tell you anything about his personal life.
@@ryanith2 Just because he OWNS a house worth so much doesn’t mean that he’s flush with cash. For all we know, he could be on the verge of not being to make his next home mortgage payment!
Never actually got tears watching a poker game - we all cheer when the under dog wins. well done dude, you so deserve this for you and your family
Ya the phone call at the end got me
I love how supportive some of the other players are
Folds Aces and Kings... This man deserved to pull that big windfall in. Great to see.
That double Aces fold was the most incredible thing I've ever seen. Absolutely stunned
"double aces" bahaha
It's rare to see a situation where someone gets a windfall in hand and makes the conscious decision to take it and walk away with it. I'm very happy for Mr. Fishman and this is instantly one of my favorite videos.
GOAT. This video shows all the great quirks about the game. What a legend
The best poker match I’ve EVER seen.
Props, sir!
Definitely hope to see more of him. Such a genuine person.
His priorities are family so he gives up big cards to limit the risk.
Inspiring.
I think you won't see more of him that man is done with gambling for good
i would be too xD @@golden1975
17:29 I love how Bill puts Phil in his place.
Nice username
Throwing away those aces was so crazy in the best way possible. Dude more than doubled his money already, and knew that even with a golden opportunity he still didn't want to risk it.
I've always said, "in certain spots it's actually good to fold pocket Aces preflop". This situation is THAT situation.
When you're in a tourney and you'd rather gamble on flops and not the chance of getting sucked out doing something drastic preflop.
No it’s not. The spot to fold AA pre is in a satellite when all winners get same and multiple ppl all in.
Here he should just rip it all in and then turn over his cards so nobody calls (if he didn’t wanna risk taking a flop)
I love Fishman's decision to slowdown and ensure his win. Folding pocket aces and Kings is unheard of.
I wouldn't even look...
He could have shoved the aces and won the pot without any contest
@@cial67 Not if Laak called XD. Fishman is a loose cannon, remember?
@@andyshaw8870 Laak would never call with a small pocket pair lol. In fact he'd certainly put him on exactly AA knowing he wouldn't even shove KK in that spot
@@cial67 Laak at that point knew he was playing tight but he didn’t know how tight. Also, there’s the possibility that fishman would use that perspective on him to his advantage. So if Laak had kings queens or AK, in that situation. Who knows what he would’ve called. By your logic. He could’ve shoved the next 8 hands and won them all because everyone else would’ve just asssumed he had pocket aces each time? ??? It’s the poker table. Anything can happen at any time. Games on.
He's good at not letting people know what's going on in his head. He plays stupid when he's smart and strong when weak, weak when strong, they give him two choices and he does a lateral. Sun Tzu would be proud.
Maybe it’s the eye of god bias, but I feel like I would’ve read his shaking after going all in for what it was
Play like that in poker and ur basically playing the luck game. Poker is not played like that.
Basically everyone's first strategy
@@daltooinewestwood6380 The thing is, i would ve thought he is intentinally overselling it and shaking his hands and stuff to make me think that he is intentionally doing it to hide his bad hand lol. I would mind fuck myself
@@daltooinewestwood6380 Like the commentator said 'My hands would've been shaking either way'
Best poker video ever. "He's a school teacher. A school teacher! You have him have endless trunks of money!!! Hahaha
Perkins is great!!! The commentary by the pros at the end is spot on.
Bruh every time I get pocket aces someone always has a straight or a quad this guy played this so well
Nah, he did not play well at all. So many mistakes, but sometimes people get lucky.
Lol, if you play for fake money, that's because its rigged, they give you pocket aces so you raise big, then there is always a straight. You're out of chips and you repurchase. Rince and repeat. Fake money poker is not remotely like real poker.
@@ledrash6079 can people not tell when people are counting card
@@rileypearson8697 You can't count cards in a poker game. The deck is shuffled between every hand. All you can know is the cards that have been shown and yours
…because your raise isn’t large enough….you want to try to flush out those idiots who are going for an inside straight draw or the flush….
I actually love this format...I wish you guys would bring this show back..with regular Joe's vs pros...it's a great concept!!!
It was by far my favorite poker show.
It was by far my favorite poker show.
"Regular joe's" got me laughing so hard hahaha
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It was by far my favorite poker show.
I love this. Thank you CZcams recommendations
I was not aware that in this kind of game you could just cash in your chips and bug out. Folding pocket aces preflop makes more sense now. Lovely to see how much the money means to him and his family and I wish him all the best.
LOLOL I love it "He's A School Teacher! You And Him Have Endless Trunks Of Money! HE'S A SCHOOL TEACHER" lolololololololol
he is stupid when folding AA and KK
I love that they call this guy the loose cannon and he makes several clutch folds, wins full value from a steaming helmuth and then folds pocket aces followed by pocket kings in one of the most unpredictable shows of restraint I've ever seen in poker.
its the name of the seat they give to average people
One of the worst, most amateur acting jobs I have ever seen with the straight against Hellmuth. Just awful, and Hellmuth was dumb enough to fall for it.
@@MrJamberee "Hellmuth was dumb enough to fall for it." how you know why he fold it? can you read minds watching youtube clips? you dont think helmuth knows who this guy is? i know, sorry, probably too many question at once for you. btw. helmuth is one of the best actors in pro poker, just sayin.!
@@MrJamberee It felt like a pretty classic "shrug bet" to me, but it's a lot easier to make that call with the benefit of perfect knowledge. Besides at a high level you can easily second guess that as deliberately attempting to feign a common tell knowing that an advanced player would pick it up, a la the goblet duel in the Princess Bride.
That is not restraint, that is called being a bad poker player. I suppose it could be seen as restraint in terms of he is aware he is a bad player and knows he does not know how to play pocket AA or pocket KK. I didn't see the Kings( his play was just too terrible to keep watching) so idk the situation but the AA fold was just flat out bad. His goal should be to get all his chips in the middle with a call from 1 person. That is always your goal with AA preflop if anyone else is acting aggressive. You are currently winning and getting the most chips in when you are CURRENTLY winning is all that matters in poker. Tournament structure changes that slightly but its extremely slightly. Hos fold was a shitty fold and acting like it was a good move is equal to someone pushing all in with 7 2 offset against AA and sucking out for the win. Its a bad play regardless if you won that single hand because single hands are meaningless. A mathematician should by all means know all this as its trivial poker theory so it stands to reason he is just a bad player, likely due to fear. He folded AA because he was early and simply does not know how to play it. Preflop folding AA is NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER WVWR the right move lol.. ever!
He slayed the giant, rescued the princess. You couldn't write a better story
Not too many real feel good family stories in the poker world. This is great!
WOW. Emotional with you Mr. Math School teacher. So happy for you and what a great game you played. Congratulations sir
I'm a teacher too, that man is smarter than I am. I imagine I would have reached for the ring and gone home with nothing but a story to tell.
I def. lost more hands with AA than i won
They're some of the worst hands when you think you got it good! 😭
the only case in which he did the right thing is if he was in way over his depth and couldnt afford to lose, which brings into question his prior bets. aces there was a positive bet for him as long as he could take the variance of outcomes, and if he coudlnt afford the variance of outcomes then why was he making far more reckless bets earlier?
guy had no business being there with that mentality and made a terrible decision probabilistically
@@cv9672 Can you at least bother to look up what the show is before spouting nonsense off?
In this show, the random person is staked $100k vs 5 pros who supply their own money. They only get to keep the propfits, aka everything above $100k, but 100k and below they have nothing to lose.
The CORRECT play for someone who can't afford to play high stakes poker on their own is to do EXACTLY what Fisherman did. It's why someone with a 100k bankroll doesn't sit at those tables-- because if variance fucks you, you can't do anything about it.
i think its a genius thing for teachers to play poker and outsmart everyone
i love you melissa
What a wholesome ending, Perkins is a good dude too, way to keep the game in perspective.
He didn't let greed take over, took just enough at his own max value instead of losing it big. Good on you Fisherman the math teacher.
My parents are both school teachers and I grew up playing cards with my dad. Seeing a teacher playing his heart out makes me feel good
I'd definitely had played that Ace Pairs and King Pairs.
Though the Ace pair would probably tilt me so hard and that's why he's there and I'm here.
Well played Mr. Math Teacher. Well played. That ending was so wholesome.
I swear I've seen this before but I never noticed Stapleton saying "I can't believe it, Vince." LMAO. RIP Mike Sexton. The absolute 🐐.
Damn the way the guy told Hellmuth how he had a ton of money probably actually made Hellmuth happier about it
“And I get to write off this loss too!”
Hellmuth makes about $2 a year in salary, so I think he will be just fine. This is life changing money for the school teacher. Good on you Perkins!
@@compassbrian Did he actually say that? 😄
@@jamesnelson9433 2 whole dollars?
@@DanKaschel obviously not $2 rather 2 mill
When you give up a double-ace to stay out of a bigger problem...
THAT WAS EPIC!
Epic idiotism
double ace lol never heard it called that
He made an smart decission. When he realized folding all hands would make him win a life changing amount of money, he was mentally strong enough to really fold everything regardless of how strong was his hand preflop.
I've lost a number of times on pocket Aces...I'll usually stay in with pocket Aces (or any pocket pair for that matter) until I see a flop, then go from there. Fishman's style is similar to my own, chaotic at times, and I choose which hands to play not only by odds but based on what's happening with the pot, among other factors too numerous to mention. No matter how you slice it, success in poker is still largely dependent on luck...enjoy watching him play.
He bluffed his way through the game to win big time. The fact that he stopped when he did tells people he did it for his family. All my respect, Fishman.
I've played poker 2 times in my whole life, with some friends at home. But this man touched me. The phone call at the end is heart warming
Fishman is kind of person whom contented of what he have, i learn a lesson on this good job teacher!
I am so happy for fishman.A real man who cares for his family....Good luck Man.
His ability to walk away from the cards he was getting and just stunning, far more then his general play. There are not a lot of people that could do that.
That pocket aces fold told me everything about him. What a guts.
This is now one my of fav all time poker videos
17:32 the "endless trunks of money" bit was one of my all-time faves
I've been known to fold some mad shit, but this dude did it at the right time and played the hell out of some poker
Did you hear phone call? This guy has been playing his cards right for quite some time. Perfect ending.
This was so fun to watch! Fishman killed it
WOW. Congratulations Mr. Math School teacher. Love what you did.
Nice donation from Hellmuth, he knew exactly what was going on and that he could make another of his tantrums was just a big bonus, good guy Hellmuth.
I don’t know enough about him, that would be awesome if this was the case!
@@boomnailedit1609 probably not, the dude hates losing and is known for blowing up like that
@@boomnailedit1609 super unlikely. This was sarcasm. Helmuth is famous mostly for being the biggest asshole to ever be a successful poker player.
SO fun how a newbie with good instincs can outplay the pros in this awsome game!
Folding aces and kings are absolutely insane man… I could never do that, but it all works out
Hurray for the teacher. Makes a big score for his family playing the odds. I remember hitting a $ 30 k hand on the way to the circus with the family on a $6 bet Caribbean poker back in late 90s. Really came in handy that winter. Every family man who works hard for a living deserves to hit a jackpot for his kids. The feelings unreal with a good woman and children in your life God gave you. Just don't get lost beating the house
100% agree.
Based as fuk
You had 69 likes before I took it to 70. As much as I like the number 69 I liked your comment more, so
Odds will catch up to you. Can't win enough,one day you will lose too much....Mr Family Guy. That day is coming,....if it hasn't happened already.
Based
Noone gonna talk about how a guy called fish-man actually beat all the sharks? :D
Superstoked for the guy! Amazing, and i love how he threw those Aces and Kings...
Definitely a guy i'd like to see more of!
The sharks got beaten by a fish, man! Get it?
@@TrustworthyFella "Fish are friends not food"... for only this game... 😅
the way hellmuth talks and acts towards the dealer is uncalled for by far
He might be my new favorite poker play for sure lol i like his energy
This is my favorite round of poker ever. He's a school teacher, and you have endless trunks of money to Hellmuth LOLOL!
Everyone loves putting the needle in Philly 😂
Phil calling his exact hand was pretty impressive tho
I think thats the only card that can outwin him.
@@addenanda nah, there were plenty of hands that could have beat him: pocket pair matching anything on the board, KQ of any other suit, 3-4 of any suit, AJ or A10. He called the KQ of clubs because that was the most likely hand for him to have to still be in the pot at that point, based on how he'd been betting. Watch the pros, they do this all the time, it's why they are pros because they can read other people's hands.
@@jeffwei No, he's a great player he saw very fast he was on the flush (immediate reaction when he loses was "if a clubs comes i wouldn't lose a dime here"). So then only KQ would beat him, makes perfect sense.
Not really, it was on obv read....the guy was only pushing in that spot with the nuts. Was obv KQ of clubs or KQ any suit.
@@markh9246 it’s obvious when you can see the cards and work backwards from that, that would be one possible hand judging by the board but that’s a good read first guess
Wow.
I have never seen a man display so much self control. Who folds pocket aces like that? And the universe immediately rewarded him.
I don't understand poker at all and have no idea who these people are, but this was interesting to watch.
I’m so happy for this guy, great family man he deserves that win
it seems today that all you are is violence in movies and sex on tv