Tractor Talk - The best BUDGET garden tractors OF ALL TIME!!!
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Brett and I discuss what we consider the best bang for your buck garden tractor brand of all time!!! #sears #gardentractor
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I started collecting suburbans two years ago and now have 7 David Bradley tractors and 20 later Sears Suburbans. Iam having a real love affair with these tractors and dreamed of owning one as a kid while looking through the big Sears catalogs
I loved the Sears catalog as well 👍
Glad I found your channel
It’s cool how your son is passionate about your hobby it’s awesome to see
@@tosainu1 I agree. Thank you 🙏
I enjoy your channel. I really appreciate how well informed you both are. Great father son chemistry. I have a Craftsman GT6000 with Onan engine. Did have an SS12 at one point and it was a beast.
Thank you very much 🙏 Appreciate the kind words 👍
I normally NEVER suscribe to utube channels.....EVER. You two just earned another suscriber. Excellent video.
Thank you very much sir 🙏 We really appreciate the kind words 👍
I very much enjoy the old machines, as you do. Never heard of the Sears FF. You keep makin 'em....I'll keep watchin.
Thank you sir 🙏
Great video and good seeing a nice old SS-14! Great tractor for the money for sure!!
Used to love going to Sears and checking out there mowers- those FFs looked like space ships kinda cool
The DB tractors were '59 through '65 with Briggs motors.
Roper started building for Sears in '66 and continued through 1980 with the suburban line although Electrolux company bought Roper in 1978.
1981 was the ugly era of the Sears now called Craftsman, still decent tractors, but many had the variable drive and you did mention the FF series.
In 1988 Husqvarna bought out Electrolux and then it became AYP which we know how that turned out with the box store lawn tractors.
The big model changes with the Roper tractors were seen in 1971 with the 14 Briggs and 72 15 briggs. Besides a small production run in 1978 with a Briggs twin in a GT16, all the 66 through 1980 had Tecumseh singles or Onan twin engines.
1973 was a big design change as Sears cheapened the grills as they went fiberglass ( just my opinion, I have 5 to rebuild). You then had the ST12's that kept the flathead Tecumseh, the ST16 which was the new overhead valve Tecumseh 16hp and the SS16 which was Onan twin. They also added an SS 18 in '75 I believe. 1977 had its own badging, 16/6 single, 16/6 twin and 18/6 twin.
1978 Sears went to the GT badging and tractors were painted black/silver. They still had the Tecumseh OH18, but most were Onan 18, 19.9 and then the big block N52 20hp.
The FF tractors ran 1981 to 1983
and came in 18, 20 and 24 hp model, full hydro. I am lucky, my FF24 is loaded, front/mid PTO and a dual speed rear PTO along with hydro mid lift and rear Cat0 3pt, but man is the ole girl got a drinking problem. They should've added power steering though, they do not turn very well.
Dont forget, Sears did make the compact/custom lines also, those has basic same rear frame and axles, but front frame was 2" shorter and front axle was lighter duty.
Sears also could be considered the grandfather of garden tractors, they made the Tri-trac and the handiman tractors in early 40's.
They are affordable GT's that can be a lot of fun. They turn great, but are a little light for some work.
With that said I have a dump bucket, multiple snow plows, rear tiller, and my old 16/6 has plowed quite a few acres of field. Maybe some day I'll get the other 8 I have restored....saving them for retirement LOL.
Great information! Thanks for sharing 🙏
I had a sears custom 8e and it was a sweet little tractor,electric start,lowest gear was awesome for crawling, jusr a small ruggedly built simple machine. I regret not keeping it !!
I agree. Vintage Sears were great machines for the money 👍
The one thing the FF didn't have the JD400 had was Power Steering! They had the SAME Hydro Trans as the JD.
I have an SS14 that I mowed with forever. I said when it got to 50 years old I would retire it from mowing. Now I mow with a Hustler zero turn. The Briggs 14 needed a rebuild. After looking up the parts price of a rebuild , I went with a Predator 212 repower. The Predator repower was a hit. It uses a fraction of the gas , with all the power. I did add a big heavy pulley on the outside for more inertia. Sometimes when you let off the clutch too quickly it would kill the 212. That extra pulley solved that issue. She still gets used hard without the mower deck ,, pulling wagons , wood splitter, plowing. Other than the engine being used up , the only thing that needed replacement is the tie rod ends for steering. I simply drilled through them , and used 3/8" grade 8 bolts. It's not that I'm too cheap to do it right, they would fail in the middle of some task. That was years ago , and the bolt hack isn't showing where. I do have replacement tie rods , but as long as the hacks hold up she just rides along. Also have a Sears Custom 8. The engine was bad on it when it rolled in. It was repowered with a Greyhound ( pre Predator Harbor Freight engine). I use it for true abuse work. It has solid forklift tires on the back with chains. They are super heavy. It pulls trees out of tight woods. It is ugly , but just keeps on going. It has welds all over it , from when I need some homemade attachment for a temporary use , then cut it off. Like a buz saw , or a cane fodder cutter (all homemade). And other stuff it's powered. Plus with just a decent size cart or trailer, they make a great utility vehicle for acreage upkeep.
Great tractor! I have 2, one exactly like yours and one that was till it rolled out of the trailer and did at least one endo. Bent one spindle and damaged som sheet metal,grille and seat. Had it back working in a couple weeks and still going. Talk about tough !!
Thank you sir. They are definitely built to last 👍
Sears sold tractors made by several smaller low cost lawn and garden tractor companies. Some are Murray, Dynamark, MTD, Huffy and Roper probably some I missed. Most of the Sears Suburbans were made by Roper who built the dual range 6 Speed Transaxles Sears Used in all their top line Garden Tractors like the one you feature in your video. The alot of the SS models 12hp and up to 16 hp used OHV Tecumseh engines, some had Briggs & Stratton. The bigger Suburbans used Onan engines and later B&S or Kohler twins. They also made Hydro Models too I am not sure who made those transaxles. Peerless made most of their Inline Shift transaxles. What's kinda sad is the only mfg left is MTD.
Awesome video! The older Sears are true workhorses! I think the only item that costs 6 times as much as a garden tractor that makes it do 6 times more work is a front end loader. I wish Sears and other companies like Kwikway and Ark manufactured more loaders in the garden tractor era so they would be more common today today and not so pricy on the used market. Have you ever owned a front end loader on a garden tractor before? If so, how did you like it? Best,
Gan
Thanks Gan. I agree with your sentiments. I did own a Case/Ingersoll 648 Hyloader. I wish I still had it. czcams.com/video/a_hL9-cBVeE/video.htmlsi=KhztXTzgmPTd1JOk
Great info. I have three old garden tractors that all need some love. It’s just time and money lol. Plus a lil know how. 80 bolens 80 simplicity and early 60s wheel horse. I get what you mean lol. Great video!
Very cool Stan 👍Thanks for the kind words 🙏
Great video. Keep doing them.
I have the same snow removal memories with my son.
Did any of those Sears tractors, like yours, come in hydrostatic drive. ? I don’t know much about Sears older tractors other than what I’ve seen on you tube. Defiantly a great tractor from what I’ve seen.
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Thank you sir 🙏Great memories for sure. The FF series I mentioned were hydrostatic. They also offered a hydrostatic version of the SS12 and SS14 called the Hydrotrac 12 and Hydrotrac 14.
@@BuildALotAcres. Thanks. I’ll look that hydrotrac up.