TAYLORMADE Qi10 DRIVER REVIEW // The Stealth Killer?
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Today, Ian is in the bay to test out the brand new and much buzzed about Qi10 driver. Come see how the new tech stacks up in this busy driver release season!
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Filmed at: Club Champion Toronto
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
TIMECODES:
00:00 - Introduction
00:50 - First Impressions
04:02 - Taylormade Qi10 LS (8.25°)
05:44 - Taylormade Qi10 LS (9°)
07:43 - Taylormade Qi10 (10.5°)
08:58 - Taylormade Qi10 (9°)
10:11 - Taylormade Qi10 Max (9°)
12:46 - Taylormade Qi10 Max (9°, Toe Strikes)
13:23 - Taylormade Qi10 Max (9°, Heel Strikes)
17:20 - Taylormade Qi10 LS (8.25°)
18:56 - Results
22:31 - Final Thoughts
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Mikey is sooo much more relaxed infront of the camera than in the beginning he looked so serious and uncomfortable! No he is excellent! Good work Mikey!! 100% credit for you!!
I appreciate that your initial review is not just a sales pitch for an OEM's newest driver. It further establishes TXG's credibility.
Agreed. You hardly ever see a negative review these days. They probably won't get the clubs anymore if they do. So kudos for the honesty here.
“… Very small, that’s maybe why you like it…”😂😂😂 the way Ian slides that in there is equally savage as it is class. It’d be like seeing Big Foot in a three piece suit.
I used to pick on Mikey for being goofy, and honestly I missed Mattie, but Mikey is really stepping up and coming into his own as a host of the show. He should be proud of himself! #MikeyThePro
Mikey has a wonderfully comfortable and engaging style
Appreciate your honest review. Definitely not what TM is hoping for, but a good service for the customer!
We are so blessed to have Ian stripe every shot to give us a good review. Can’t believe the efficiency!
Awesome review. Love the honest and blunt opinions about the driver. Helps customers make an informed decision about what they are looking for. Thank you
The back n forth banter is becoming the highlight for all these videos
Production Note: The second camera takes these videos to the next level!! Great work gents.
I think that LS could be quite the combo up at 10-10.5* at Ian's speed. Was a bit disappointed they didn't crank up the 9* head just to see flight conditions, but I do understand he hates a closed face and will be testing the 10.5* head at a later date.
Reminds me of the SLDR Loft Up issue. That driver was too low spin for so many players, so you had to add static loft to make it work. As for the Max models, I agree with Mike. I fit a lot of low ballspeed players and really enjoy having those Max options for these players. If ballspeed is higher, standard or LS models are the better option most of the time, but the slower ballspeed players really benefit from the higher MOI, easier to launch models.
I always appreciate Ian's honesty when doing these... good or bad. Can't wait to hit it and compare, but I don't like the chunky, big look of drivers and liked it when they went to the 440-450 cc size heads.
Just got fitted at Club Champion in Hillington/ Glasgow. Great set up. Was convinced I would get A.I. Smoke as I’m normally Callaway. Ended up with QI10 LS with Ventise Red. Can’t wait to get it and take it on the course
I love this time of year. Test and compare.
Compelling viewing - great review. Fascinated to watch the look of genuine concern when Ian put a good swing on the LS, only to see it fall out of the sky low left. At least you had the benefit of GC Quad to confirm it wasn’t the swing, but the club not behaving as expected. For myself, I default to swing fault and go down the rabbit hole of trying to manufacture a swing that works. To quote Ian, “.. if you’re going to manufacture those launch conditions - good luck with your driving stats!” - great job 😊
100% Facts
Great content. I love the honesty. Cheers
coming out the gate firing gotta love it. an honest review as well
Loving the driver review videos and very excited for the upcoming bracket series. Wanted to request that you include the TSR3 in the brackets again, given Titleist aren't releasing a new driver and it was last year's champ :)
Sorry guys, we moved the Premiere up to 9am. Hope you can join us. 👍🏼
Noooooooo
Need more normal player review with these new clubs.
Have you ever came back a week later and do the exact same tests? I wanted to know if your swing changes at all and effects the results.
Qi10 is overrated
Knew the LS models were low skinny when Rory and Tiger added loft on top of Tiger adding a higher launching shaft.
Cheers guys, really enjoyed that. I kind of respect the idea with the LS of just saying "well if you want low spin and max speeds, here it is", but probably more sensible to be able to move the weight back a bit and dial it in. Stands out though in an era of more mild low spin offerings.
The face on my brothers OG Stealth just popped off at the range yesterday...no cracks or breakage...just popped right off the chassis!
Very common
One of my playing partners had that happen last summer, twice, a month and a half apart. I unloaded mine as fast as I could
Still gaming my OG Stealth, genuinely surprised this hasn’t happened to me yet
Chinese junk!
Taylormades do that.
AWESOME You 2 need to do more vid's well done again
The infinity crown is a big plus for me in the looks department. Looks so much better. Can't wait to test one. Might be the first time I bag a TM Driver.
I appreciate the review by Ian. $630 for the Qi10 is not an option for me personally. I found the Stealth Plus V1 12 months ago for $244 used and that's where I will stay. I am waiting to see if Qi10 wins any tournaments this year.
Can't wait for a head to head with all the new clubs.
Eagerly awaiting the ping 10k video . From what I’ve seen there’s no down side to it, looking forward to a more throughout review from you guys.
There’s plenty of downsides to Ping 10k, lack of moveable weight, really only compatible with very high balance point shafts in its 10k moi configuration, etc etc. No driver is perfect. But one or two are pretty close.
I enjoyed the initial impression. Really interesting how different each model seems to be, which I think is a good thing. For those of you out there like me that have a slower driver swing speed (90-95mph) I would definitely check out the reviews today from National Club Golfer (NCG) CZcams channel by Hannah Holden and the Golfalot CZcams channel review by Georgina Hirst, both UK websites with YT review channels. Hannah Holden's review for NCG was done with the head product designer at Taylormade, Tomo Bystedt, who Ian has interviewed at tested with numerous times on in the past on the TXG/CC channel. Hannah gets custom fit into all three models with different shafts and settings. She swings driver around 95mph with ball speeds in the 130s and low 140s and carry distances between 220 to 230'ish. Very relatable. Also, the new tester at Golfalot (replacing Sophie Walker), Georgina Hirst, tested all three models with three STOCK shaft offerings. Her review is not as in depth, but she swings driver around 90mph with ball speed around 130 and carry distance around 210. She is also very relatable for average to lower swing speed players. Both of these reviewers have also tested the new Ping G430 Max 10k driver today on their channels, too. These are all just data points, and it is good to have multiple data points and reviews to learn from. I think Ian and Mikey and the Club Champion folks would agree on that. Nice work, team! Looking forward to your more in-depth reviews on each model.
I doubt this brand is in Canada, but the Eleven hybrids are fantastic and well worth a review
Great video on why you need to get fitted for your clubs. 50 yards difference between one that doesn’t work for Ian vs the one that does..
Getting fitted is huge
Love the content. Do you mind sharing the size of your impact screen and how far you are from tee up to screen? Also do you ever have anyone hit the carpet tiles on the wall? Thanks guys!
Always think these new club reviews are quite handy because the ‘embargo’ release on the new model is also an embargo release on telling it like it is on whether the previous club was a duffer or not. Most you tube videos now really attacking the Stealth and Stealth 2 but I don’t recall anyone saying the same thing before January 8th! Great for second hand buyers who can discount the right models.
Gentleman, great video as always! Any chance we could see the LS on an Autoflex? Its seems to want the added dynamic loft the shaft could provide.
I agree wholly with the point that better MOI/more forgiving drivers are not substitutes for proper fittings/lessons. I got fit for a Mavrik SZ in 2020, hit it far, but grew frustrated with mishits being out of play. I traded it in for a G425 Max off the rack that was “the most forgiving driver ever” but soon realized I still couldn’t hit it straight and was not hitting it as far. Finally got a fitting and loved TSR3 then got a lesson once I struggled and have been hitting it much better for over a year
I think whether its is MAX 10k or Qi10 Max, lots of golfers will buy them as a ready made solution for bad driving. Then come to find out that there are some fairly significant trade offs being made. Do it once, do it right, go get fit!!!
@@clubchampionmediaso true. Great advice
Would love to see a review/comparison on the krank drivers and fairway woods that bryson has been using!
That’s a great call. Retest with 10.5. The LS seems like it could be like the SLDR with better forgiveness. I can see a lot of people lofting up
So far in this years stuff, Callaways drivers have hit it out of the range by miles. Can't wait to try all the new Callaway woods. Might even go 4 of them this year. 1,3,5,7 or heaven.
So far Ian has been the only person on CZcams I’ve seen with the low spin issue. Makes me wonder what would fit now.
Hi Guys what Shaft were you using in the standard model and thanks for the videos great information.
SIM 2 was awesome!! that's why brooks put one back in the bag for the Ryder Cup.
Looks cool, but will the clubfaces detach from the head like the previous models?
Superb as always gents ⛳️🫡
I just hope the face is fixed. The stealth 2 caved in twice in a month on me last year.
One of the more interesting reviews for the boys. The comments about the Max have me thinking. Maybe the big box stores like an off the rack product.
I have the maverick sub zero, the good is very good the bad is very bad 😂 going to try these out next month, looking forward to trying the standard Qi10 👍
Anxious to see a comparison with the Paradym AI Smokes.
Get two for the lads!
I’d love to see a SIM2 vs QI10 standard , compare the forgiveness and numbers .
Qi10 max with 10.5 head turned down to lowest (8.5) setting….gave me the best numbers I’ve ever seen with a driver. Swing speed, ball speed and optimized for launch and spin. Which means it must be very spinny and launch super high because I normally play a 10.5 head to get close to these numbers and spins. So don’t buy off the shelf. Get fit…go hit it…check your numbers.
Hi, what were your launch and spin numbers if you are willing to share?
I would love to see Ian test the Max in a Ventus Black or similar shaft and knock the loft down to 7°. I’ve been doing this testing myself, and I can’t seem to miss with the Max. Plus the spin is in a good window with the loft cranked down.
And it’s Blue !!
The Qi looked to underwhelm vs the AI Smoke so far. I can't wait to see some head to head comparisons and the driver bracket for some fun
Looks like your not quite in the right window with the ls love to see mat give it a go I think if you had 120 club it would be dynamite so your in the mid model Ian. Seems like they have driver for every speed which is a unique approach
Great video! I'm going to go with Qi10 Max but knock it down to 8 degree. I think that will keep the low spin yet offer the maximum MOI.
Sounds like the LS will take us back to the wiley SLDR days. Low spin bombs and lower spin snappers.
Another Honest Review from "The Boys"... Thanks for that, First Swings with LS compared to The 2nd attempt were worth looking at... Interesting to see how Clubheads respond to Swingspeed !!1 Night and Day almost... I Would be very Curious to see Mike do the same tests with his Swing Speed and Launch.... Makes me wonder if these heads are manufactured to represent swing speeds in the 90 to 105mph range ?? Curious?
I agree. No such thing as "best driver of year 202*" and rather best driver for swing speed xyz mph. Slow swing speeds need higher spin and launch.
Just been to Glasgow studio withJoe Hughes , smashing guy and superb experience going through my bag. Definitely have a look at these guys if ur looking at club fitting👍
Really glad you met Joe. He and Dane are doing a brilliant Job over there.
These look so much better than the stealth/2 drivers.
I would LOVE to see your opinion comparing these new ones against the "old but gold" SIM Max ... Is this new Qi10 Max a game changer un distancie and forgiveness against the SIM Max ??
Thanks for your reviews, im learning a lot thanks to you a out golf material.
Would be interesting to see ian hit some power fades could be a better fit for that type of swing
Ian: “it was nice” 😂
would love to see you try the Morikawa setup and have the 9* Max turn down 2* and see how low the spin gets and whether manageable.. looks like the Liverpool red core model is in my future
What shaft was used and is it a stock option or upgrade? Currently playing the Aerojet 9 degree, turned down to 7.5 with the Motore X F1 x-stiff and swing in the mid 100's but am struggling with a low smash in the 1.4 due to off center strikes and am wondering if the Qi10 will get me some additional ball speed.
Ian really didn't seem too thrilled with the LS.....maybe its just me. all pumped up to try the new TM Drivers and they didn't seem too blown away....
Rory and fleetwood just recently went to the regular Qi10. Even they new it was too much effort to play the LS.
It will be like the SLDR all over again with pros hitting 12 degree drivers!
Watched this video straight after the ping 10k test, Ping wins by a mile, I know they love Taylormade but easy to see that Ping has the better driver.
When will this driver and the Callaway AI Smoke driver be available to test during a fitting?
Need to see that Qi10 LS in AutoFlex !!!!!! 🚀
Any info on what stock shaft offering are going to be available? Not everyone is going to order upchage shafts. Most won’t.
Return of the SLDR
Curious how does this driver compare to SIM original? Out of curiosity I bought a used SIM 1st Gen after watching your recent TM generation review where SIM came out on top I’ve yet to compare it to my TSR3 and won’t be able to until I’m completely recovered from my 2nd hip replacement surgery i had 2 months ago in November
Very nice! It will probably be expensive...
I thought you were more consistent with the Callaway Paradym Smoke driver
Ls reminds me of sldr. Unless you have crazy speed or really hit up, it just isn't playable without more loft.
Fraz: "The weight track is very small... That's maybe why you like it..."
Mikey: ........😏
What shaft did you have in the LS model? How about the Regular model?
I feel like LS should get another go around with 10.5 cranked open and maybe a higher spinning shaft? Ventus blue?
Too funny. What a great name. The Kitten. Qi10 - Qiten - Kitten. JS
Why not test with Ventus Blue shaft like with the ai smoke?
Did u already try that and not have good results?
What I see in this video with the Qi10 LS, happened to me with the Stealth 2 plus 9.0. EXACTLY the same! Low trajectory. I am worried and don't know which one to get now. Qi10 LS 10.5 or Qi10 normal one.
Interesting take on the MOI. When you say a fitted driver(non-max) is better than a 10k, in what ways ? I see Nelly Korda is playing the Qi10 MAX
To say you were disappointed in the LS seems off. Seems you were disappointed in not fitting into the lower loft head. Sounds more like a bad fit rather than a bad driver. On the plus side, more people can fit into the cheaper “core” option. But then egos and FOMO will push people to buy the LS anyway. Then they’ll complain and say it’s SLDR 2.0. 😂
Taylormade or ping or cobra or callaway or PXG. Easiest to hit looks feel, your opinions please.
I came from a TSR 3. The TSR2 8 is a weapon with a 5gram natural hotmelt, 3 gram rear weight, and with a ventus black.
TrailerMade golf for ya
Just wondering what elevation you guys are at....I live in Socal. and hitting the ball 310 yards Ave. is something that only about 20% of PGA tour players can do. When I go into Roger Dunn/Worldwide Golf Shops I do notice that I can hit my driver and 5 wood about 20 to 25 yards further (on their tracker) then I ever can on the course. When I go over to the PGA Superstore I am brought back to reality and hit my woods 20 to 25 yards less as also the case on the course. Just wish I could use certain tracker results in the real world.
I prefer the every other year cycle. It's just too much to expect any significant improvements every single year.
Interesting that I’ve seen other reviews of the LS by people with slower swing speeds and worse consistency than Ian and they were a seeing the issues with such spin, must be their delivery.
I feel like you have hit the A.i smoke 3w the best, even out of all the drivers! :)
I agree, that Triple diamond 3w was so good.
There will be more adjustments on the upcoming Qi11
Did I hear Mikey get bleeped out? 😂😅😂
Wow! That was shocking
You should loft the LS up to at least 10 degrees, IMO.
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TSR3 👑
Generally speaking how is everyone feeling about the durability of carbonwood? I have a stealth and the face discoloured to a goldish colour. Not sure that it really affects performance but I have also heard of other issues with carbonwood. Btw always had great customer service with Taylormade and I guess I could exchange but as I said at this point it doesn’t seem to really effect performance. Interested in an update though and curious about people’s thoughts.
not a big fan personally
did u find the max shorter in length ?
Great video but I dont understand why you are playign the LS driver at the lowest loft on test. Surely this is a loft up situation! Even taking the 10 head and taking it to 9.25 would be better.
(I do note you mention this later in the video)
Ian I’m surprised your first thoughts on the LS would be to use a higher launching shaft like the TR Red. If you get that launch up a little you’re in business.
Thats what loft is for Daniel. Go check out any of our Ventus Red, Ventus Blue and Ventus Black videos, soft shaft profiles Vs stiff shaft profiles don't quite work as advertised.
@@clubchampionmedia I’m aware that’s what loft is for. I don’t like seeing extra loft and unless you’ve tested that specific head with that shaft you’re only guessing at this point. Either way thanks for responding and enjoy your day.
A max version was great for you