"He's Just an OLD Hater" | QueenzFlip CLAPS At Melle Mel
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Y'all got Busta fucked up.
For real!!!!
Yeah! Busta is a beast. That had me confused. And he is the greatest rap performer of all time. All the great rappers say it. He's a rapper's rapper. I always thought the goofy videos had people not taking him as seriously.
@@missdee4927 The "boomp" music video is a vibe lol
The disrespect on bus man
Word!!
Melle Mel gotta join Kareem Abdul Jabar in the old haters club
Why is Kareem Abdul Jabar a hater?
Just an old hater is a wild ass statement
in 2023 he's irrelevant and people only care is bc he mentioned eminem XD
I respect him as og but he be saying bullshit
@@srimalrn2336 duh he's irrelevant to mfs who were born 10 years after he rapped. That's not an important gauge of a person's value at all
@@EazyRocko depends on where you sitting
A lot of them older guys from the 80s and 90s come off as that tho it’s all about how you express yourself and your reasoning that will decide if you just giving your opinion which is fine or are just being a hater.
I love how Joe avoids any topic that has to do with Em now 😂 Smart
You see it 😂😂
I seen it. Bruh have a shook look on his face lmao. That Conway the machine verse 🔥🔥🔥 kilt him
@@yaboy1414 You mean Em's lost verse on his song?
The Rap GOD has WORLDWIDE GREATNESS reach nobody matching that especially that Broke Button
As does Em ...simmer down 😂
Parks done got a bath and a haircut.
I'm happy for Parks.
Now if only he could grow his own set of nuts. Considering he's white himself, he's such a pander to "The culture" but I guess, that is how he eats so....
Naw na 😂
Melle Mel says he raps better than Hov and Em, yea.. He gotta relax!!
For real 🤣
I think he meant wraps, like blankets and comforters!
Why doesn't Queenzflip get a seat on the couch lol??
maybe he likes sitting up there... who knows
These grown men are in love with jay z
We all are. He’s the goat!
😂
It’s grown men in love with NBA youngboy too. But who gives two F’s
How you figure? 🤔 🧐
@mopar_keys I don't know about everyone else but Budden refers to himself as a Jay stan and that Jay is the GOAT.
I love that everybody is like “They should not make list anymore” but have yet to create their own
Parks has the most unique laugh HaHaaaa
“Knick-nat paddy wack we don’t want to hear that”…….. lol
but Em even said it on WHITE AMERICA he said thats part of the reason he so successful and thats what mell talking about too
Exactly he said it himself
Even if he would of sold half of what he has sold now , he still lead in numbers by far
no Mel isn't just saying that stop cherry picking to try and make his arugment sound credible when it ain't
@@mrstrangeworld5977 did u watch that interview or are u just talking mess? There is no way you would make that comment without seeing that interview that he spoke on Em !
Flip owe Mel an apology if not for the founder you would be working at Burger King
Flip don’t give af bout that old nigga 😂
WORD
It's the other way around. Mel needs to apologize.
Mele Mell is a joke for that bs. Nobody should be hesitant to tell him, he isn't right. Rap aside. You're a man first. You have every right to tell a man, no matter how old they are, if they're wrong or right. Respect goes both ways. You being born before me doesn't mean you have the right to talk down or disrespect me. It just mean you were born first. No one is in control of when they are born. Stop using that as an excuse. Mel can't touch them dudes and anyone with half of a brain knows that. It's time to start normalizing putting any man of any age, feet to the fire. It's no different with sports. A white man created basketball and football. It is no secret that both sports have been dominated by black people throughout history. MJ, a black man, is the goat of basketball. Do you mean to tell me we're going to dismiss that, because he's black? Imagine saying "Oh, well the only reason MJ is considered the goat is because he's black. Do you know the outrage black people would spew out, if a white man said that to us? It's very hypocritical.
Rap and Hip Hop, was created by black people. So now i find it funny that these sour mofos, are mad that a white man, who has always been respectful to the culture, is better than the ones who created. It's so freaking mind-boggling. I'm a proud black man and I really am sick and tired of mfs using the race card, for every little thing. Judge a man by his actions, character, and talent, not skin color. Mel and anyone else disrespecting these men need to have 3 seats and stfu. He couldn't compete with them, if he wrote his best battle rap.
No one runs around talking trash about him. He does the disrespecting. So just because someone refuses to let him disrespect and shit on their hard work, they are in the wrong? Miss me with that bs.
@@DOLLAMAC190 And he's a hypocrite,coz he defended and praised Macklemore and said Macklemore is better than J Cole, Kendrick,Jay Z. I think Method Man also said Melle Mal is a hater, he's been shitting on rappers who are fans of his.
@@brabbit8242lmao wait a minute wait a minute. Back the truck up here. This old fool praised Macklemore but he's bashing Jay Z, Nas, J Cole, Kendrick, Pac, and DMX? 😂.
I agree with Melle Mel on a lot what he says, but I disagree with him on some things he says. I respect his opinions. To each their own. QueenzFlip should have Melle Mel on Flip Da Script Podcast.
lol thats basically what u do with damn near the world u goin agree wit somethings people say and u also goin disagree
@@nashcan6350 That's true. Hope Melle Mel goes on Flip's podcast though.
If billboard can give an option Melle mel can. I don’t even agree with him.
@@robthegod9062 I respect your opinion.
In short mel said why people hate em or underate him causebhe is white but freakishly good
Queens Flip maybe you didn’t get the memo, but age 35 is considered a old Ninja 🤷♂️
Word
not really
If the man who brought consciousness to the genre that shaped the world can't speak we are lost.
Is he saying facts or just saying some bullshit honest question to you?
@@patchauto When someone achieves that status our opinion s should be kept to ourselves. Feel the same way about Chaka . Why you think Joe was silent?
@@sheltonalexander6785 naw i can respect that its just how you framed it cuz i know i dont correct my elders on things i know they are wrong on but we aren’t lost cuz we disagree in a hiphop debate respectfully
He didn't bring consciousness to shyt James brown did
Y'all keep overlooking the fact that soul was hip hop before hip hop to say that melle Mel started consciousness is bullshyt so what was say it loud what was ball of confusion by the temptations what was fight the power by the Isley's get the fucc outta here melle Mel had one great song one decent in white lines other than that what gives him the right to questions consistent artists he's dam near a one hit wonder so was vanilla ice
He never heard the message come on that was 1982 it was a different time that’s what gets me upset with these dudes sometimes they act like they not gonna get old! In 2050 somebody is going to say who’s that meatball on the podcast! 😂
Melle got some wild opinions but gotta respect the OG
Why? I don't have to respect some ogs that are selfish or arrogant bringing race into it
The Melle Mel was spitting on the message
Elementary compared to mcs with more advanced lyrical skills and also a positive message.
I mean, can a man have an opinion these days without being labeled a hater? Sheesh. SMH
I feel you but he just don't be liking nothing lol
shut up hater
You can, but if you present yourself as a bitter, narcissistic, entitled hater. Then you will be branded as such.
He didn’t say “in my opinion”
He said it as if it was obvious an ur foolish if u think otherwise
No
Melle Mel is the most important EMCEE of all time!
for the people on the graveyard yes
Not really bruh lol .
@@TheChameleon2008 No Scarface without Mel. No Ice T without Mel, No Rakim without Mel. If you are unaware of his influence your opinion is in a graveyard.
@@MrCbwTV Bro, its 2023.... not 1996
Still an old hater 😅
Aite Flip, Melly Mel ain't gon play fight with you.
This generations version of a hater anybody with an opinion that they don’t agree with 🤣😂🤣
Look how happy parks is 2:03
Melle Mel look like Anderson Paak on steroids
I'm gonna walk thru Downtown Memphis tonight before the New Edition/Keith Sweat/Guy concert and ask 100 people to name 2 songs outside of The Message that Melle Mel spit some hot shit on and I bet NOBODY is able to do it without using Google. And most of the people coming out tonight are from that generation. My overall point is I'm done calling niggas LEGENDS just because they're old. Okay, they helped make rap a serious genre, so I'll call em PIONEERS. But LEGEND implies that there's a level of greatness and 1 hit record does not define greatness.
"Melle Mel is a hater" says the hater
Busta> HOV
This is the issue when you allow people to speak
Flip got on 5 different blacks 😂
So I don’t listen to rap, but I don’t see why jay z is considered to most people to be the best or at least top 5 . Does it have anything to do with the fact that he’s supposed to be a billionaire now,, or is it totally based off of his talent, I’m just asking…
His talents but they'll include his billionaire status in the discussion to make it seem like him being the best can't be debated once you mention how much money he's worth. He's nice but far from the best.
Thanks for responding, and thanks for being honest, appreciate that
Ok. So let me just clarify. Jay-z was selling albums before the internet was a thing. If you look at his come up his peers were all legendary in their prime in which i call the peak of hip hop. He stayed consistent with longevity. Eminem lyrical, but he is a horrible song writer. People keep bringing up Eminem verse on Renegade, but it's sad that the only notable feature he has plus Eminem catalog is trash. Jay-z lowkey carried hip hop on his back. Also Jay-z sold physical CD while Kendrick and Drake had the advantage of internet, streaming, social media. Jay-z had none of that. Jay-z album the blueprint went number 1 the week of 9/11 when the towers fell. As in when 9/11 happened people still went out to buy the blueprint. The problem is people who speak against Jay-z not even old enough to have a opinion on hip hop or even know hip hop. Anybody who says it's probably because he was a billionaire probably didn't witness him coming up.
Longevity and consistency. He's been able to rap, at the very least, a decent level for every era of the game since he came out. Some people in their prime were bigger than him, like DMX. Non have really lasted as long and been relevant to so many eras though. He also just raps really well. Above a certain skill level this is all just preference at the end of the day.
Sit yo ass down tenner…..you’re not part of the culture
This podcast is getting crazy
Read this title in akademiks voice.
So billboard can give their opinion but melle mel can’t. Let that man get his shit off
They really acting like Hov is actually better than Busta. His discography is just as solid as Hov's, his consistency and longevity is neck and neck and he's arguably the greatest in flow and stage show
bustas best projects aren’t better than hovs best projects 🤷🏾♂️ he was a little more consistent in the 90s tho
@1:52 of this clip, I am so confused!!! Flipz said who listening ppl 40 and up because us young n!&&@$ aint trying to hear that. IKYFL, So you not 40+ I'm 38 so I shouldn't have to state the obvious.👀😳😳 Yo JOE get ya manz 👀🤔😏😂💀
*Meanwhile Flip means Nothing to Hip-Hop!*
Hate is in dudes blood, you only hear about his negativity!!
He birthed the importance of mc and used it to reach its pinnacle when hip hop was about the people, he saw ppl hop on for just financial gain and tarnish it after hopping on his wave, he has every right
Eminem is the most protected hip hop artist ever.. Thats crazy to me to be an emcee. Just think if people protected Hip Hop like they protect Em.
🎯
Who protecting him in this clip?
and that is melle mel point..these are podcasters that have to say what is the right thing
It's crazy because all of these rappers are quick to come to Eminem's defense. Yet, Eminem ain't about to speak up for and defense 99 percent of these dudes. Hell, he ain't defend Royce when Royce was gettin jumped by Mickey Factz and Lupe 2 summers ago. Lol
Snake da 5 9 hell no
50 cent is a real friend
I seen the Rap GOD give props to many people from award shows to music
So stop lying
If you fools would stop hating him because he is WHITE people wouldn’t need to defend against that STUPID SHIT
SO BLAME YOURSELVES
you hear Florida, pitbull, Cardi, in Clubs. Let's crown them hip-hop goats.
It's so annoying hearing everybody say we should respect Melle Mel. Why? WHO does Melle Mel respect? He only gives himself praise. According to him, nobody is on his level. Man please.
As one of the creators of hip hop he can say whatever the fuck he want
They finally got rid of the big headed dude
When parks don’t realize he isn’t a part of the culture
He ain’t wrong about Busta though, y’all gon stop playing on Busta’s name lol
It's Called his Opinion, Music is subjective
Go away Flip.
They guy is a hater not just with em
This new generation is so damn soft and sensitive nobody can have THEIR own opinion outside of group think.
The sensitive generation. Just soft as hell. Mother's pushed that feminine energy. They couldn't provide the masculine because they kept that for themselves. Single parent and new generation mindset.
That applies to his generation as well. A Billboard list is also opinionated.
Melle Mel is the GOAT
clean those windows...
If he has a valid argument, how is it hate? I do agree he's a hater
Pump pump pump😂
Every time old girl talk ,I gotta fast forward because she brings nothing to the show.
Thanks for saying that. I feel the same way and I also fast forward. I didn’t say it because everybody is acting like she’s just so great .. I don’t think so. I also watch old shows and like them better before she came on
Yeah they need to switch her out because I don’t see the point.
Exactly. When she speaks it's really annoying and when she uses profanity it sounds forced and corny.
Melle Mel has the right to say what he wants none of u would be there if it wasn't for Mel.
He's not hating if you ask me
These days dudes use the word "hater" as a term to try and eliminate somebody's valid opinions.
Mel had zero valid opinions
I really truly hate that word. It's so overused.
Some people are simply "hating" and not having valid opinions though, so it's actually very aptly used most of the time
Like Mel really is an old hater at this point
@@Huntski36 It's not aptly used most of the time. I see way too many people being called hater for just having a difference of opinion. I see this SEVERAL times.
Why wouldn’t busta say he better? Lmao yo the Jay z worship
Is CRAZYYYYY
Joe Budden will never talk sh*t about Mel he once put him in his place😅🤣😅
Proof or it didn't happen.
Not sure who melly Mel is
Melle Mel a Legend. His opinion don't count?
"Don't hear kendrick in the club" since when did club music become the marker for quality? Big old man crying because hes in no ones top 50 lmfao
Melle Mel is an icon in hip hop. But what he said is his opinion. A man has the right to his own opinion it's how he feels but sometimes it looks like hate to the younger generation.
Anytime someone critiques these frauds they take it as hate
@@gregjones5483 I'm so sick of that stupid word.
@@gregjones5483Cuz he is a straight up hater!!! This dude booed Public Enemy off of the stage!!! He needs to sit down seriously!!!
Nick nack Patty wack, we don't wanna hear that. Hilarious! Now that's a bar. 💯
I'm a Jay fan but this whole notion he's undisputedly the best ever need to stop. First off it's all preference so if u someone who don't want to hear about money and drugs and things like that ok Busta might be more your speed over Hov. Jay Z best attribute is really his longevity. It's many rappers if I said hey put their top 2 or 3 albums versus Jay top 2 or 3 albums Jay wouldn't win for me.
Facts
You’re nuts! Jay literally have one of the best discographies in hip hop!
HOVS worst 5albuns is better than most niggas best 7 lol... Please!!!! Let's not even talk about his impact on the culture.. His, music alone is God level
On No Day is Jay Better than Nas, or Scarface, or......the list can continue.
Let's not Confuse Wealth and 'Longevity' with Skill, rhyme scheme, message and content.....
Shit TechN9ne bodies Jay. Lupe, Redman, Prodigy, Kurupt, Busta.......I could Keep Going. Jay don't hit my Top 10, Maybe not my Top 20......Maybe not my Top 30.
So Sick of the Jay GOAT Narrative. It's False Okay. Shit is Cap.
@@majesticm.c.a.5633 Method Man, Beanie Sigel, Ghost Face, Common, Big boi, Jada Kiss, Fat Joe…..
It's funny that eminem had lyrics actually agreeing with Mel and he actually compared himself to Elvis yet people get mad at the truth.
That was 21 yrs ago his opinion changed bozo
@@angelosolomons5436 In what way? How has Ems opinion changed on that?
@@kauswekazilimani3736 bozo i suggest u listen 2 MTBMB properly then smh
@@angelosolomons5436 You could just say how his opinion has changed. Since you already know.
@@kauswekazilimani3736 u the bozo on my comments since u inserting urself in the convo like u know something y u aint answering ? Did u listen 2 his albums to be questioning or disputing ? Since u on a post about what the man rapped about 2002 ...u do know its 2023?
Just a old hater when he talks about Jay and Kendrick but shout out to a legend when he hates on Em lol
Nas talked about the dudes before him on carry on tradition. How they hate because they're the innovator's and mad at Nas generation because of the money they getting.
isn't joe the old hater with logic?
i absolutely think Busta would put himself over jay...
He’s gone on record saying he takes Jay
Flip hit the mail on the head with this one.😂
He was on his usps
queenzflip talking like he some spring chicken stop it...........
Melly Mel is judging things that do not matter to actual hip hop fans that care about hip hop. Too Melly Mel you gotta be playing in the clubs, be a crazy performer, and not be white.
Queen flip smh please
It’s truly ironic how this man talk about lack of impact and 90% of this generation prolly don’t know who tf he is and it got nothing to do with era and age because we know HOV and busts rhymes we don’t know you tho🤣🤣🤣the lack of self awareness from some folks
Old rappers should retire in peace
Rory looks different
It’s a different level of hate when you’re hatin on the dude that just mentioned your older than Em az at the Rock n Roll Hall speech 🎤
💯🎯🔥 NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE MEAN AND HE IS ALL THE WAY RIGHT. THE 80s MUSIC RAP HIP-HOP ARTIST RAPPERS WAS BETTER WITH THE MESSAGES AND TEACHING GOOD VALUES AND THE COOL STUFF PURE AND CLEARLY THE WISDOM WAS THERE NOW IT'S MORE SHOOT EM UP AND CRY OVER A GIRLS MUSIC. WE NEED MOTIVATIONAL GOOD HONORABLE PEOPLE MUSIC MELLE MEL NAILED IT
It's better putting the camera on Parks when he talks. Before, he was just an irritating voice off camera. But it's not as irritating when you put a face to the voice.
Mel is 100% correct
Do we hear “Melle Mel” in the club? His arguments agains Kendrick and Wayne (2 of the greatest rappers, ever) are Pure L’s.
I love jayz but I ain't mad at anyone who's got busta as their number 1
Flip yo Crazy behind ....Pause ain't worthy to call our Legend Melly Mel ah Hater.....😆😆😆
U terrible Flip!!!! Flip you got my vote on the funniest Wildout shorts....🤣🤣🤣🤣
He speaking facts
Cap
It's crazy if somebody doesn't agree with all the sheep in the world there a hater.
@@thecreedman4801 facts jay z ain’t that he just did a lot of rituals he a high ranking free mason so they shower him
@@thecreedman4801 That really gets on my nerves.
Alternative Facts lol...
Old hater is right, Mel hates on anybody that came after him. He swears his era was the absolute best when 90’s legendary era had much more talent and better lyrics. I respect Mel a legend but he a true hater.
That's actually false because he's given plenty of emcees after him their props...and guys from the 90s still look up to the guys before them..this is all an opinion...he doesn't have to like or salute rappers like Wayne or kendrick...the same way these trash ass new rappers disrespect guys like pac and jayz...if he a hater then so are these new rappers than honestly can't rap a lick
queens flip W now that everyone sees melle mel
Flip you need to stay in your lane with shark bite snd big groove...
picture people who never started hip hop telling the guy who started it that he is a hater
I hate that people disrespect eminem just because he's white
Man we respect Mel but if he doesn’t go sit down with all that hippity hop til you don’t stop flow. That’s been played out
Jay is the more accomplished lyricist but Busta is better when looking at all the boxes you need to tick as a rapper
Hell no
@@kareemabdulwahhab6919 explain how I'm wrong
@@dayko1329 He really doesn’t do anything better than Jay. He isn’t more lyrical, technical, better albums, better lead singles.
@Kareem Abdul Wahhab busta has shown way more variety of styles over the years. Better artistry in terms of music videos. Bigger singles and features.
@@dayko1329 Bigger singles? Plural? No. He has one single you can say Jay never matched in terms of a smash song. Which was Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See. Jay is an all around better artist. Nobody saw Busta as the best rapper in the game. At any point. He never gave us classic albums.
Great topic.
So who heard his Eminem diss track👀
I was waiting to hear what Joe Budden & Co. had to say about this. What's up w/ you, Joseph Anthony? Why you ain't chiming in on it? Eminem is yo' boy, correct? Anyway, I'm definitely here for the "old hater" content. Uncle Mel is an old hater who ain't even got enough money in his bank account to form an opinion (truth) about a culture that he was there for since its inception. That's the main issue. If Unc had $500M+ in his bank account, wouldn't nobody be this outraged. I agree w/ a lot of what he said. That DJ Akademiks backlash was all in vain, I suppose. It hasn't been a full year since his statements regarding old school artists and we're back at square one. Interesting.
I don’t think it’s honorable to dismiss Melly Mel’s opinion on the State of Hip Hop
How about now
@@Oatmilllk chill you know all these old heads gonna say that Mel’s diss was real hip hop they can’t admit that they’re idol is a bitter ass hater
Flip you ain't young bee
All of these corns got grays in their beards and keep on saying " old ninjas" 🤦🏿♂️ I seriously don't Like Flip anymore..
I agree with melle Mel queen flip u have no ideal about old school legends he has every right y'all younger generation got a lot to learn 💯
He was right about Rakim tho