Can Gyroscopes Provide Free Energy For The Planet?
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I think you could argue that we are already extracting energy from the rotation of the Earth. The Coriolis effect due the rotation of the Earth contributes to atmospheric circulation which we can and do harvest in wind turbines.
The wind is caused by the sun and is thus an extension of solar energy, not Earth's rotational energy, I think.
And the Coriolis effect only applies to and explains regional/local phenomena, not the whole atmosphere's interaction with the outer empty vacuum space, I think.
@@theaman1786 I believe that both of you are correct, but I’m not sure and I’m no expert. The atmosphere is a complex enough system so that both statements can be true, or at least partially true.
The Coriolis effect is absolute bullshit. No sniper shoots 70 feet to the left to accommodate for the spin of the earth. No arplane or flying craft of any kind has earth rotation factored in to its navigation.
We also use this for launching spacecraft.
if we chose to extract energy from earth's revolution it will just fall towards the sun. Remember kids, energy is always conserved.
Yes: tidal enegery! That can be harnassed, and it already is.
It's the Earth's rotation being "shaken" by the Moon's gravity. Don't get bigger in terms of "ball + hand" than that!
That’s what I was thinking. The wind currents and ocean currents. Water is way denser than air though.
Edit: My favorite is a start up called Eco Wave Power. It‘s on the NASDAQ.
True, but tidal energy is effectively useless when you consider the cost/kw and energy density.
@@g.4279 Yup, solar will be much cheaper. Yet at some point manufacturing might become cheap enough so that tidal can have its application in dark and cold environments, or where wind turbines would suffer too much, like the Arctic for instance.
@@g.4279 Tidal power accounts for less than 1% of world wide electrical generation, but that still represents a few gigawatts on average.
Tidal power is easiest to harvest where the geography funnels tides through a small channel. This concentrates the energy making it cost effective to harvest.
Ig that's moons kinetic energy
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2 gyros on the same axle spinning in opposite directions would cancel each others precession out. Now you can save the world, you're welcome. Seriously though, you don't need to let the gyro turn, the problem was more likely that they couldn't keep friction lower than the amount of energy that could be harvested.
That would also cancel and net gyroscopic action. Of course they would still react to changes in orientation but the forces would only act on the axle.
@@whatelseison8970 Can you explain what you mean by "net gyroscopic action". The idea was to harvest energy from the rigidity in space.
Two flywheels, or "gyros" on the same axle spinning in opposite directions would "help" each others rigidity in space, but the directions of their precession that was claimed to be the problem would be in opposite directions, and thereby canceling each other out.
Replying to you I just realized the idea has a much more fundamental problem. Rigidity in space is relative, rotating flywheels doesn't resist turning, they resist changes in direction and speed of turning. Their idea was fundamentally flawed.
Great video, and really interesting idea! And i find it funny how the problem you run into here seems to be the same as referred to as "gimbal lock" in 3d animation. You'd think that describing the rotation of a 3d object you'd be fine with just an x y and c coordinate, but since they are influencing each other in a hierarchy you end up in these situations where they line up and you have no axis left for the rotation you want. Therefore it's popular to use quaternions, aka 4d numbers to describe rotations that don't run in to the same problem. I wonder if this translates directly to the mechanics of the gyroscope and number of rings and how they are connected. And if it would be possible to mechanically construct a "quaternion" gyroscope with 4 rings and somehow get around this problem maybe??
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If you slow the earth from the surface, wouldn't the core keep spinning at the previous speed? Would it create turbulence in the outer core and mantle? Would that increase the magnetic field of the earth? The idea of extracting energy from earth's rotation bring up so many more questions.
LOL
What if you have a multi gyroscope? Or a gyroscope within a gyroscope?🤔
Russian nesting gyro's
Not gonna do anything. They all will stay stationary with respect to each other
What if we used gasoline to power a gyroscope to make it look like it is free energy and scam the government for billions in funding… oh wait wind and solar did that already. 😕
Then you'll have a gyrogyroscope
What if you put a gyroscope in the sandwich known as the gyro?? You could eat it completely flat without stuff spilling out
Thinking about your video and here it comes!!
What about instead of a gyroscope, you used a Foucault Pendulum? It swings based on the Earths rotation, needs no introduced force like a gyroscopic mass, and can exert energy without (noticeable or appreciable) slowing (in the cases Ive seen, knocking down pegs). Could it be used to generate a weak electromagnetic field by passing a magnet over a coil?
But the balancing pendulum requires some energy to go forth and forward (unless I didn't understand what you meant). It will be strongly slowed down by the magnet.
I went to the exploration place and they had one and yea it knocked down pegs. It was used as a clock so it must be fairly consistent.
Using that as a magnet moving to generate current in a coil seems an interesting idea
Maybe with a modification you could extract rotational energy rather than extracting the kinetic energy of the pendulum swinging. If the pendulum mass was on a solid rod (like a hammer for example) and the end was hinged to a disk or something that could rotate at the pivot point, then you could extract rotational energy as the earth rotated under the pendulum. Operating the thing in a vacuum would help reduce friction losses. Using magnetic bearings at the pivot point would be beneficial too to reduce friction losses.
@@mb-3faze If this method was true we would need multi ton swinging balls on a large scale, vacuum chambers that large are not feasible.
Can you make metal “self-heal” itself in a vacuum chamber? The layer of oxidized metal prevents it from happening in our atmosphere but in a vacuum chamber it should work, right? You should give it a shot! I’m curious to see 🤔
Is it cold welding. I guess he has one video.
That is a very interesting question
I remember i had the same thoughts when i was studying 12th grade chemistry
I would be interested to find it out as well
Thank you for these videos!! They're really interesting and educate lots of people!
Unfortunately he got the physics and his conclusion dead wrong. The educators need to understand the topic before they are helping. As I and other commenter pointed out, conservation of angular momentum means you can't extract energy from the earth's spin this way
in case of a frictionless disc would it slow down if you were extracting energy? Anyway the power used to keep the wheel spinning will probably be greater than what you get.
No
You are extracting energy at 90 degrees to the disk
So a frictionless disk held at the proper locations would not extract any energy from the disk
It extracts it from the earth
Yes, if you turn a spinning gyroscope, it drastically slows down
The amount of energy available is tiny, any attempt to exploit it will kill it.
@@aspiringscientificjournali1505 ..Ight google babe..)/* only reason to extract energy would be to keep the day constant length.. and there's a point to that..)/* might as well run copper around the equator and see if we can tap some ether....) but hey, it seems to have formed a magnetic field of it's own and she happens to give us life, so how about you quit f'n with her magnetosphere, AY?
@@YouGloomy don't know enough to answer your question but I've been thinking about making some flywheel based batteries and the water idea is very interesting.
The functioning of a gyroscope was one of the coolest homework problems I had in Physics I in college.
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I don't know what the solution would be, but I guarantee it would involve being closer to the center of rotation, so at one of the axial poles. If you can somehow multiply the rotational inertia, through a series of pulleys or some other mechanism pulling the center of mass inward, you could potentially generate additional speed similar to a figure skater.
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Even if you were able to do that, wouldn't it make the Earth spin a little slower every year? That'd be catastrophic, mind you.
Yes but, as @The Action Lab stated, you'd have to extract truly titanic amounts of energy in order for the slowdown to even be measurable, let alone catastrophic.
@@GumbootMan yeah, kinda like you'd have to extract truly titanic amounts of energy from oil in order for the effect on climate to be measurable...
yep, we humans are capable of that
@@vincentletard7379 Once humans see the amount of energy, they will see a way to use it...
@@vincentletard7379 He says at the beginning of the video that with the US consumption it would take thousands of years to even slow the earth by 1 second
@@vincentletard7379 literally millions of orders of magnitude of difference. Windmills are already extracting rotational energy from Earth
Futurama tried extracting energy from the earths rotation, it was a bad idea lol.
Conservation of angular momentum means you can't extract rotational energy from a closed system at equilibrium. The best you can do is to find some part of the Earth that spins at a different rate to the surface, then extract work from that mass by bringing its rotation speed to equal that of the surface.
Wrong well idea is right application is wrong
Motors word specifically by turning angular momentum into heat an electricity
Allow me to prove it
It I had a motor in space
Rotating body and head 1rpm
With a small battery on the head and a gyroscope on the head face 90 degrees in the direction of rotation
If the gyro turns on its resistance to motion would cause the head to rotate or “not rotate” and that energy would be quickly converted to electrical
and jk about dingus part .. but Darren ..please check it out
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_"Motors word specifically by turning angular momentum into heat an electricity."_
1) Motors turn electricity into work. Generators turn work into electricity.
2) You are confusing angular momentum with rotational kinetic energy. Kinetic energy can be transformed into other forms of energy. Angular momentum can't be converted to energy but it can be transferred from one object to another.
If you see a generator stop moving it's because the angular momentum of the rotor was transferred to the Earth via the stator. The kinetic energy was transformed into electricity and heat.
_"If the gyro turns on its resistance to motion would cause the head to rotate or “not rotate” and that energy would be quickly converted to electrical"_
Maybe. It will also cause the whole system to rotate around a third perpendicular axis as shown in the video. If you want to call this a proof you should at least show that the energy generated is higher than the energy used to spin up the gyro.
@@aspiringscientificjournali1505 gyros do not resist turning, they just turn 90 degrees offset to the direction you try to make them turn.
With clever arangements, bunch of gymbals and low friction bearings, you can use that to keep track of direction, but the moment you try to apply force on it, it will turn around on some axis.
Also, if you run a motor in space, the shaft will rotate one direction, while the casing will rotate the opposite direction, perfectly in line with the law of conservation of angular momentum.
I thought the conclusion at the end would be this. This is a theoretically unsolvable problem, not just an engineering challenge.
where's the link to the Gyroball?
We could extract energy from the rotation by creating a space elevator with a circular chain, delivering heavy rocks to an orbit high enough so that they get flung away by the rotation of the earth. That centrifugal force can drive the elevator to carry up more rocks, and it can deliver energy we can gather by putting generators to the circular chain.
The problem only is that we have no material to construct such an elevator. Nothing is strong enough to sustain the forces of that pull under its own weight for a length of thousands of kilometers.
@cåññâbëār Don’t feed the troll!
As one wise man one said “THERE IS NO FREE ENERGY DEVICE”
The Sun is cool
It seems you need a reciprocating motion to extract energy. Maybe instead of the Earth's rotation, we capture the Earth's subtle wobble, like the gyro ball?
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Gyroscopes are for direction/guidance. Let's take a frisbee like disc. Inside are 3 grooved walls from the outside in. The center is free floating while the walls are lockable. Hand cranked to keep centrifugal force going (the start being a large "skeet" shooting lever), with gyroscopes at 16 points along the outside. Each gyroscope is able to be engaged (by being brought in closer to the center).
How does conservation of angular momentum allow that to happen?
It doesn't, this is pseudoscience.
It doesn't. The video is kind of nonsense. Or at least the "this perpetual motion machine doesn't work, but maybe you can invent one"
It's relatively not a good idea you'd need to have a huge amount of weight to produce any energy that moves relative to the earth. Tonnes of water moving in a dam produces only a few kilowatt of energy so even if anything like this works you'd need to balance a million tonnes of weight on an axis to produce a few megawatt hours of energy. Just do the calculation you'll realize.
great content thanks
Always wanted to know this
extract energy from the Earth's *spin* using *gyro(scopes)*
Gyro Zeppeli was right all along
Agreed
Why does this concept of slowing earth down in order to extract energy sounds like a bad idea? 😅
Nice video nontheless
Thanks Bob
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It is hardly a free energy, though I think it would be probably more feasible to extract energy from the Coriolis force. The thing is the Earth's rotation is really slow so it is quite hard to extract energy from it. Maybe with some gear shift added as well...
Extracting energy from earth rotation sounds like a bad idea since you make earth rotation slower and slower. I know it would take a really long time to significantly slow down earth rotation, but still better to keep it the same way since our life depends on it.
The Moon is already slowing it down. That's why we have leap seconds on occasion.
Our lives also depend on clean energy.
The Earth has a rotational kinetic energy of 2,138×10^29 J. World primary energy consumption fell to 556,63x10^18 in 2020. At that rate it would take approximately 384.097.156 years for the Earth to stop.
If we can use Earth's rotational energy as an environmentally friendly alternative to carbon based fuels right now, in a million years or so we can start to put energy back into the system.
It's already happening and has been for a very long time, 3.5 billion years ago years ago a day was ~12 hours. Tidal forces from the Sun result in the Earths spin slowing down over time. The Earth has already stopped the Moon's rotation via the same process. Given enough time the sun will do the same to the Earth.
i have thought about that too a few weeks ago its pretty interesting
Nice video, thanks :)
Actually, we do have machines that harvest Earth's angular momentum and turn that into energy, nowadays, although they do it indirectly.
They are called wind turbines :)
Well, actually no. The winds used for windturbines have mostly nothing to do with earths rotation.
Tidal powerplants on the other hand do in fact kinda use earths rotation indirectly to harvest energy.
@@matthiaskritzinger5509 Cyclones and anticyclones are formed from the Coriolis force on the movement of air from the equator to the poles in Hadley cells - this directly converts energy from the motion into heat which ultimately gets radiated to space. Wind turbines capture this energy and do useful work for us in the process, converting more of this energy to heat. Converting kinetic energy to radiation *must* cause the Earth to slow down, however imperceptibly.
Tidal powerplants work because the Moon's and Sun's gravity potentials have different magnitudes on the near and far sides of the Earth causing it to deform to raise and lower a large mass of water which can be made to do work, as energy is transferred from the Earth to the Moon.
However, a rotating body that doesn't have tides can't generate energy in that way, but the Coriolis force could be exploited using water turbines in the Gulf Stream.
@@ahaveland Thx for your reply. Of course in aware of the effect the coriolis force (and so earths rotation) have on global windstreams. However windturbines mostly dont use these kind of windstreams as they can be to strong and/or are way to high in the air or far in the open sea (early sailers used jetstreams to get across the atlantic for example). Of course im not an expert on windturbines, but thats the point i wanted to get across.
Also as you said correctly tides are a direct energy transfer between earths rotation and the moon slowing the earths rotation down till earths rotationspeed is at the same angular momentum of the moon falling around earth. At that point the tides no longer exsist making tidal powerplants useless. So in the end - to get my second point across - tidal powerplants harvest a bit of that energytransfer between moon and earth which in turn is caused by earths rotation meaning that they practically do harvest energy from earths rotation itself.
Anyways, thx for your reply! Have a nice day :)
@@matthiaskritzinger5509 I never claimed that the air produced by the coriolis effect was the ONLY source of air whose energy wind turbines convert. But whatever little part of that air's energy is converted, it still makes wind turbines machines that, at some level, indirectly turn earth's rotation into energy. So, actually, yeah. My point is still valid.
Since the centripetal force is stronger at the equator than any other point above or under the equator, then I guess we could join a (very) long pipe between any point above /under the equator and the equator itself.
We'd obtain two different pressure at each end of the pipe. The pipe needs to be tangential, not perpendicular to equator's plane.
Except Earth is not a sphere. Since the poles are squashed AKA downhill AKA closer to the center, Earth's gravity is not perfectly perpendicular to the surface along the "slope" from equator down to the poles. This gravitational force component along the surface perfectly cancels out with the force you described above. Otherwise Earth's surface would not be in equilibrium (ignoring Lunar tides).
@@JWQweqOPDH
You mean someone actually calculated that ? If you have any link, I'd be interested. That's quite surprising, considering that earth is not even symmetrical so if what you say is true, it can't work for both sides anyway. But it's a good point.
The average surface of the ocean over time MUST be perpendicular to the net force, or the water would move until it was.
@@JWQweqOPDH
That's not related to the curvature-centripal ratio (unless you have a more detailed answer). The best case to highlight your claim would be to imagine a planet made only of water with a uniform density.
If in that case, the difference between centripetal forces at the equator and any other point can't be used as a source of energy, then yes your hypothesis is valid.
@@En_theo Putting it a different way, harvesting energy requires a lowering of energy within the source. We need to reduce the rotational energy of Earth by some miniscule amount. We can change the moment of inertia by moving mass closer or farther from the axis of rotation. We can't change the angular momentum since we are part of Earth and momentum is conserved unless there is a force interaction with something beyond Earth (such as Lunar tides, which I will be ignoring for now). With angular momentum constant, rotational energy is directly proportional to angular velocity. We want to reduce Earth's rotational energy, thus we want to reduce Earth's rotational velocity. To do so, we can increase the moment of inertia of Earth. For example, space rockets IRL might be trucked/flown closer to the equator prior to launch. Since the equator is "uphill", as I discussed previously, the truck does not roll there naturally. The truck drives normally. However, the rocket now has more kinetic energy near the equator, in relation to an outside reference frame, and the Earth has a miniscule amount less. We could steal rotational energy from the Earth by simply lifting heavy objects, such as pumping water to a mountain reservoir, at the equator, since at the equator "up" is away from Earth's axis of rotation. However, we couldn't harvest that energy as it takes more energy to lift than is stolen from Earth's spin. Instead, we can move mass along Earth's surface from the poles to the equator. However, moving the mass will be difficult, as we'll need many ton-miles moved just to generate some energy. Even worse, we have to store everything we move permanently at the destination. If we let move water and dump it in the ocean, it will just move back. So we will move mass onto land, like a landfill, from the poles to the equator. As the Earth's rotation slows, the centripetal force at the equator lessens. The ocean levels there lowers and ocean levels at the poles rise. The even worse part is, that's where our harvestable energy is! The space rocket needs energy within an external reference frame to get into space, but we're still here on the ground. A mountain at the equator contains more kinetic energy than one at the poles, but it's still a mountain just sitting there. Sure if we built rockets out of it, they'd be slight easier to launch, because it's already moving, but we don't care that it's moving because it's moving with us. We could harvest the movement of the oceans toward to poles, but the oceans already move without human intervention (Lunar tides) why put so much effort into moving them?
Sir your science experiments very helpful and worthy
if you look at the gyroball ..you need to provide a lot of energy in form of motion to get a very diminishing amount of energy to be output for a relatively short amount of time, spinning it for 30 seconds gives the LED’s about 20 seconds of power … so a 10 seconds loss of energy wasted…
For the gyroscope power source to work it needs the maximum amount of speed at the equator (1600 KM/h) and that amount needs to be stored and multiplied to be fed back into it before any excess is then send into the grid.
So to get the most out of it you need 2 or more gyroscopes feeding in into each other for maybe a few 100 thousand KWh which if any of the gyroscopes stop will immediately reduce to 0 after a few seconds or minutes
The problem is, if you're removing 0.001% of Earth's angular momentum, you've gotta put that somewhere. It can't just disappear. So you're putting it into the gyros? Sure. Fine. But they're gonna be saturated very rapidly after which point energy will want to flow the other direction.
The minimum possible energy state of a rotating system is when all parts of the system are rotating at the same speed (not angular speed, though for a rigid body that's the likely outcome). Any other state is a higher energy state.
I don't see how you're gonna drop the energy state of a gyroscope below that of Earth without net input of energy. For the exact same reason that attaching a heat engine to your refrigerator doesn't gain you net surplus energy taken from latent heat.
The only type of (nearly) unsaturable reservoirs I'm aware of are things that have negative potential energy somewhere in the mix.
For examples of negative potential energy, dumping energy into an object in orbit will reduce the speed of the object, though this is saturable once it reaches escape velocity. Dumping energy into a planet, in the form of mass, increases that planets' escape velocity. Dumping heat into the interior of a star (say, from fusion) expands and cools that star. Dumping mass into a neutron star or white dwarf compacts it further and dramatically increases the escape velocity. Dumping anything into a black hole makes it larger but does not affect its escape velocity, and also makes it colder.
The types of objects that work as unsaturable energy reservoirs all have an inverse or zero relation between the ground potential at the object, and the energy input, and this doesn't change regardless of how much you throw in. So even things like orbits or stars only work in the sense that you can wait for them to radiate energy away and THEN dump more energy in. The only ones that work as truly unlimited energy dumping reservoirs are compact objects, especially black holes.
Imagine for a moment that we develop a working method to extract energy from the rotation of the Earth. Now imagine this successful method gets applied globally, by all developed countries.
The phrase "extract energy" is key here. With a large implementation of this, we would undoubtedly slow the rotation of the planet. Doing so, even a little, would have catastrophic effects on our civilization due to the climate change it would cause. Days and nights would become much longer, temperature shift between the two would become much larger. Seasonal extremes, much deeper.
Extracting a second of rotational speed from the Earth yields enough energy to power the US for 83,000 years. The US consumes about 4 GW/h/yr of energy, which is 1/6th of entire planet energy consumption at 24 GW/h/yr. So divide 83,000 years by 6, and you can power the entire planet for 13,833 years and you'll have slowed its rotation by only 1 second at the end of of those 13 millenia. Even factoring in increased efficiency with technological progress and greater energy demands, that amount of drag on the planet's rotation is negligible on climate.
Better than fossil fuel
Maybe if we like, actually significantly slowed the Earth. But he said at the start, only slowing it by one second yields an insane amount of energy that we'd use over thousands of years. Obviously we'll grow in energy needs but for the time being, the effect is minimal on the Earth.
Actually, the effects probably wouldn't really be noticeable. The 2011 Earthquake in Japan slowed the Earth's rotation by like 1 degree.
So is the energy input to spin gyroscope lesser then energy output?
I think I can make this work!
As a matter of fact this video just sparked an Idea 💡
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The Moon 🌚 works this way ,by stealing Earth's 🌍 rotation and launching itself into a higher orbit
The atmosphere takes some rotational energy of the earth via coriolis to different latitudes. Some of the wind's energy will be dissipated because of frictional drag (eg tree leaves flapping producing heat) so angular momentum is not perfectly conserved. So wind does slow earth down but not by blowing on mountains etc but by the good old 2 law of thermodynamics. The earth has so much mass it's effect is so small though. If earth were turned to Minecraft blocks and they were laid in a line it would be as big as the milky ways diameter.
yeah i was thinking of similar stuff... like isn't part of what we extract from wind and ocean energies somewhat originated from earth's rotation.... yeah probably not that big compared to all other factors but just thought it'd make sense that overall wind blowing west is stronger than the other direction.
Wind is caused by heat and pressure differentials via the sun. At least the vast majority of the wind
Coriolis forces don't add energy. The energy of wind comes from convection currents from solar heating. Coriolis forces just redirect that energy, conserving angular momentum in the process.
Even if you can harness the power of hurricanes you are NOT taking away from the spin of earth by one bit. The angular momentum of the earth in the end is still perfectly conserved. The total angular momentum of the earth and hurricane combined, plus all satellites in orbit, is still perfectly conserved regardless of how you look at it.
The atmosphere does NOT take the rotational energy out of earth. The wind is blowing because the sun heats it up, the convection causes currents, and then earth's rotation turns those currents into different directions. But the energy that the wind has is not coming from earth's rotation.
Conservation of angular momentum is a thing, just as real as conservation of energy.
Hey. Dunno if this will reach you but i have a question. Is using a glass magnifying glass best for heating light focus. I only ask due to the obvious.
Maybe with a mechanical advantage of "some absurdly huge number" to 1
Where we purposefully rotate the gyroscope with a similar mechanism as the ball (the gyroscope will stay perfectly 90° to the floor at all times)
The Earth's rotation with the mechanical advantage will spin the gyroscope faster and faster to a set point of equilibrium and we extract the energy directly from the gyroscope
Three things no one is talking about: First off, to spin the gyroscope that fast, it takes a bit of energy. Secondly, what if you lock the inner rim on the stand like so that the gyroscope has no way of turning sideways. Thirdly, if that's not possible, or it works poorly, just rotate the entire thing 90° and it will work like it did before.
ya and its even worse if you try to scale it up. imagine the weight of a gyroscope large enough needed to extract energy from the earth. Imagine spinning that thing up super fast and KEEPING it spun up. ya dump idea
I have two gyro balls that produce energy when shaken for a few minutes and it doesn't take much external energy. Very efficient.
@@BIindsid3 flywheels don't have any interent reason that they would slow without external force. Resistance from air or friction or any other way of transferring the rotational energy to anything else basically.
Locking the flywheel orientation to the rod takes the force and applies it to the entire rod instead of just the the flywheel. It TWISTS the rod. The one thing I've noticed hands-on that makes it hard to to extract EXTERNAL energy... the gyro slows down if you resist the twist. Not sure why, but I think it's either transferring the rotational energy of the flywheel into the torque on the rod, then that force ultimate travels into the ground... Or it increases the friction on the axle of the flywheel. Can't really tell with the cheap setup I have. (A toy gyroscope held in my hands with no modifications or measurement devices.)
In other words, in my experience this is only a way to DEPOSIT energy, not really extract it. Maybe there is something I'm missing, but it seems to me that it would be like trying to recover the energy of a rocket by firing the thruster in the opposite direction. It's using energy to resist energy.
Actually... Now I'm wondering if such a setup could be used to desaturate flywheels in space by swinging them them back and forth while locked... Each swing would reduce the speed of the flywheel and cause a torque on the spacecraft. If you then swing it the other direction the flywheel slows more, but counteracts the torque from the previous swing reducing the rational energy of the entire system...
That would violate conservation wouldn't it? I must be wrong. Maybe the energy would become heat or something? Either way I'm gonna have to build out the experiment and see what's up. Saturated flywheels in space is a big ol problem for long term missions.
@@wrencharmratchet7629 Wow that must have taken an eternity to write down lol
@@leolipasti maybe... I lose track of time extremely easily. I had fun.
If I wanted to actually play with this, it would be good to actually do some physics. Maybe simulate. But really, it'd be so cheap to set this up, and the rig could be used for a bunch of different demonstrations.
If we had a coil of wire around the earth and far enough away so there is an insulation between the magnet (earth) and the copper coil, could you generate a charge? Theoretically?
For this to work out the coil would have to move relative to earth magnetic field.And if we assume that earths magnetic field does nearly not move relative to earths surface,the coil would have to move relative to earths surface. So since initially it would move due to conservation of momentum, you would have to spin it up first. And this will take the same energy to do as you could theoretically extract from it afterwards, cause by doing so, you would slow it down relative to earths surface. So no it would not work.
Nice idea, but as soon as you would take energy from the coil, the coil will begin to spin with the earth because of the electromagnetic force that generates the energy. Eventualy it wil become in sync with the earth and you will need to put as much energy back into it (probably even more due to losses) to get it stationary again. So you would need to tie a rope around the sun or moon to anchor it to something.
But getting energy from the moons rotation is much easier as it already creates the tides in the sea which we can use to extract energy from, another question would be how much are we slowing the moons rotation by harvesting tidal energy ;-)
You need alternating magnetic fields...
@@AndreVanKammen we will not slow down the moon, but the earth,since earth has higher angular speed, than the moon has. (in fact, earths day once where roundabout at 12hours, and it slowed down, due to the tides, while the moon got faster,and is constantly moving away from earth.
@@AndreVanKammen None much? We aren't making moon waste more energy for tides by using them. Tides are already there,.
Sir, I have a question if I jump from some good height like 4th Or 5th floor with a concrete floor or a heavy thing where I'll standing above that thing and when the heavy thing is going to crash to the land and I jump from that heavy thing to the land will i survive?
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I have 3 of those power balls and they're killers! I just want to add that yes they're difficult to start up at first, going against the grain so to speak, you do a kind of circular rotation with the hand from the wrist. But then once its in "flow" its just a wrist rotation left and right and the hand no longer needed to do a rotation. So I'm thinking, if you can start it up and put it in a device that only goes left and right, maybe can generate the resistance via sea waves or wind. to be consistent it would need to harness and spread evenly at the correct speed?
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IIRC, a guy in Wales did this. He used a big gyro off a cruise ship, he extracted power to light a cabin.
I think the main research problems are obvious. The component materials that you make the gyroscope from and how to cost effectively convert and transmit that constant theoretical energy. Obviously, by up-scaling your gyroscope so that it delivers the energetic results originally theorised, with an electrically induced magnetic current generator gyroscope. Ie. frictionless. I would start my own elemental component dreaming/theorising, with barium sulphate, Weldbond and pure magnetite crystals. Great video you fellas, enormously intriguing.
Wouldnt the extraction of the energy of the earths rotation eventually stop the Rotation?
🗿 He did say just a Lil bit can power up America for 83k years so Who says we need to stop the frickin earth
@@hellstorm3132 ok, but it would most likely used as a primary World energy source if we could harvest energy from it. I dont think that it would take this much years if everyone uses it. And btw. If we had access to this much energy, sciene would eventually get much more progress and things will use more energy.
It would indeed speed up Earth's rotational deceleration in relation to [dark matter flow] Astronomically eventually. However, celestial bodies slow down Earth's rotation more effectively. Remember, Tidal power generators rely on Moon orbiting the earth to stir the ocean in a way that causes least resistance to it's longitudinal movement, however applying artificial resistance (imagine ocean suddenly being more viscous due to generators decreasing it's mobility, again, on astronomical scale in relation to Moon) would just as well mean that it would be "pulled backwards" by the lagging ocean just a tad bit, which in return means deceleration of moon's velocity, and slow down of speed at which the Moon, currently, very slowly escapes Earth's orbit.
Imagine how heavy these Tidal generators are in total throughout the planet, it definitely would not make sense to spin up the equally massive gyroscopes to such speed, and inefficiency of spinning (resistance of joints) would only apply it against the Earth's crust, returning the "stolen" rotational energy unless the entire massive spun-up Gyroscope is somehow relocated onto a different part of the planet. This exactly shows how much humans are more efficient at converting Moon's kinetic energy relative to Earth into electricity.
If we get all the people to run from east to west at the same time we could speed it up. Rotational crisis.
@@Mansory811 obviously it will but because of the science development we would probably find another source of energy by then,and slowing down of the earth isn't that bad considering if it's slowed down like an hour or so, Slowing down by an hour would be too much energy we probably won't need more than that
Several years ago I read a paper submitted to the physics journal by a Harvard professor and his students doing an experiment on a vacuum chambered glass container. They wanted to see if they could suspend hydrogen gas in the container using a magnetic field. They discovered that hydrogen gas could be suspended in the container using a weak magnetic field. Then, they wondered what would happen if they passed visible light into the container. They claimed that the light went into the hydrogen and came out as high energy X-rays and heat. They claimed they measured a temperature inside the container around 54,000° F. That was nearly the same temperature that scientists measured in sonoluminescence experiments, suspending an air bubble in water and hitting it with sound. The sound caused the air bubble to vibrate, causing it expand and contract converting the sound into heat and a bright light in the center of the air bubble. They measured a temperature around 50,000° F around the air bubble. I congratulated them on discovering over-unity of energy.
Well, I then got the idea that we could use hydrogen suspended in a vacuum chamber to produce heat. Similar to the thermal energy produced by radioactive particles in nuclear reactors but without the dangerous radiation. Nuclear reactors use thermoelectric generators to convert heat into electricity. The same thing could be done using hydrogen suspended in a vacuum and then hitting the hydrogen with visible light. Lots of thermal energy is produced that could in theory be converted into a constant current of electricity. The only difference is the hydrogen would not be radioactive and would not lose it's ability to generate heat over time like radioactive particles do. Plus hydrogen wouldn't produce radioactive waste.
I'd love to provide the link to the article but I commented on the article congratulating the professor and the next day my comment and the article was gone. Apparently someone agreed with me, the device proved over-unity of energy is possible because they removed the article. I should have kept silent. I doubt they would have figured it out. Something to think about.
Maybe you could try to repeat their experiment to see if the claim was legit?
1) converting light to heat is not novel, it's what a piece of black paper does when exposed to sunlight
2) overunity is impossible
@@matthewmullin8168 Over-unity is indeed possible. The exponentially expanding space with distance is empirical evidence that it is possible, IE dark energy. Scientists just don't know why or how it is possible in space. I figured out how to recreate the effect on Earth to produce clean energy on demand, without having to use radioactive particles or rare elements.
Research sonoluminescence. More energy is produced than what does into the experiments. They take sound with low energy and send it into an air bubble suspended in water and the air bubble expands and collapses to the point where the sound converts into visible light and heat, 50,000° F. Proof that over-unity of energy is possible. Ignoring the evidence for any reason would be an act of ignorance.
How about when we add generator it stops spinning and changes direction
So can we apply a force from the other side to balance the fall in gyroscope like a waterfall or something?
If we are spinning how do you explain the Noth Stare staying still even looking through the Georgia Gide stones?
love these types of video's. We have to realise we live in a universe literally built out of energy. There are 1,400,000,000 lighting strikes per year on earth alone of excess energy. I believe two magnets stuck together are the most simple example of infinite quantum energy. We just need excellent CZcams channels like this to bring awareness of traditional as well as quantum physics 👍🏻
Brainfoo coming in with the ideas of the future. I dont know if I missed it but I gotta see a video on this idea with someone
@@thatsketchyboi6688 I am aware of companies now working on quantum based batteries through a quadcopter racing company called "airspeeder". Independent companies and university's separate from the gas and oil giants who dare to think different. The attention and support of you guys is what we need now ❤️
I think you wrote "two magnets stuck together to give infinite quantum energy "thing in a sarcastic way. right?
"I believe two magnets stuck together are the most simple example of infinite quantum energy."
No, they're not.
@@AmanDeep-yc4iz No I'm quite serious.
Friction. The bane of "free energy" everywhere.
That's exactly right.
The bane of mechanical engineering.
Could a manatic cober spoil rail at the ekvator around the earth ,, with a counter rail ontop hold up by macnatics .. then you just use some electricity to spin top rail counter earths rotaion and the power out put would be a littel higher then of spend, becurse of earth rotaions ? sorry for bad english
Amazing
"Only slowing the earth's rotation about 1 second per day. " Only....we would have diminishing returns, as well as dire effects on the earth. Because at the end of the first year, we'd be rotating 365 seconds shower per year. Every year we'd slow down more. Until our rate of decrease would have dire effects on tides, moon revolutions, etc. All while diminishing the effective energy potential of the gyroscope(s).
I thought the same thing. I'm all in for researching new forms of energy but not at the cost of everything else... messing with the rotation of the Earth is asking for trouble.
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." - Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park
Did you not hear how much energy we can get just from one second slowdown ? Do you think we would need anymore energy in the near future after the first day ?
No it takes 80000 years of extracting energy before we a day is increased by 1 sec.
He said that slowing Earth's rotation by 1 second permanently would provide energy for 80k years. You do it once. What you say doesn't make any sense.
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umm your assuming total and perfect efficiency in energy extraction. Never happen. The laws of physics snags it. And how much of that energy will be used just to keep the gyroscope aligned for peak energy extraction. And the energy potential he mentioned was only for the United States. 330 million people, or if 8 billion. Ummmm it eithe tags so many gyroscope, the negative effects of all those gyroscope would multiply factorially.
Earth doesn't spin!
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What happens if you hang that gyroscope with a spring?
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The impossibility of this idea is easy to check - just try to come up with a way to use a gyroscope to spin the carousel on which you yourself are, without relying on anything other than the carousel itself. if you succeed, consider that you have deceived the laws of physics, because a motor is the same as a generator)
Maybe applying gyroscopic principals to gears and do make it gear the rotational force of the earth down to the center of the gyroscope to rotate it faster. Then you could make the center out of a giant permanent magnet and make the loops around the gyroscope be the coils for collecting power. You could even potentially stabilize the gyroscopic generator depending on the flow of electricity that's released. To use the eddi currents to stabilize the whole system. Just a thought
Very good nice job.
Two ways I can think of extracting energy is using a turntable like the powered one you had with a minimum of friction to allow the gyroscope to turn it and use the motor to generate electricity as it rotates the turntable. Another idea is to have magnets embedded in the center of the gyroscope and coils to pick up the magnetic fields. I can't help but think about the starting and running energy needed for the gyroscope. A pendulum only needs a start and it will continue with the rotation of the earth so if the tip of the pendulum had a strong magnet and it had a multitude of coils to pick up energy possibly you could generate some electrical energy that way depending on if the magnet causes the pendulum to slow down to a halt because of an attraction to the metals in the coils or mounting hardware. The idea is to get free from using energy to make energy except for perhaps the initial start. How about a satellite that focuses energy on a point on earth where you have various solar collectors around the earth and the satellite would switch on and off according to where the collectors were located...? Some extra food for thought perhaps?
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What would happen if we replace the spinning part with tennis racket and make it friction less?
Will it behave like it would behave in zero gravity?(Tennis racket theorie)
I guess it could be done with a very large well/rotation speed, but the low friction requirement becomes exponentially complicated. But then there would be the cost of getting the wheel spinning fast enough.
But then again, if you can do that, it would make an awesome battery.
Do like a bike gear that has a slow moving large gear that. Steps down to way smaller gear combinations that allow you to magnify the amount of rotational energy you get from a powerful slower large rotation.
crazy how them space objects seem to operate like your rotation demo. also if you see this action lab, I just happened to be heating up my dab rig that has the same geometry on it! energy is all around.
Energy from rotating movement -> energy gyro ball -> solar energy -> electric energy -> ( use the electric energy to power the rotating decice) AND VOILÀ! INFINITE SOURCE OF ENERGY
Would it be possible to somehow combine exercise gyro ball with vave energy capture?
I have thought this over for a few years and I have just found your video.... I think I know.
My idea for this would be placing giant gyroscopes on a slanted long poles around the planet poles and not the equator, where the spin motion would be the most concentrated. The irregular spin it provides when the planet turns on it's axis will provide angular momentum to the gyroscope, causing it to speed up, of which turns the generator and create power.
You got it wrong boy
Probably not, especially when the gyroscope's motion cannot be recognized without a time-lapse under the earth's rotation, let alone powering a generator
We already do extract energy from the earths rotation. We use something that is not in direct contact with the earth, and use that to move a "mechanism" that drives other machines that extract the energy. The mechanism is called: tides. The thing not in contact with the earth is: the moon. The frictional losses are absolutely massive, so its hardy efficient, but the energy involved is phenomenal, so even a very inefficient system is capable of extracting huge amounts of energy. Then people start to worry about ecological damage, and it gets a whole lot more complicated.
What could theoretically happen if the spinning core of the gyroscope was full of ferrofluid and a magnet approached it? How would it react?
Well, before you even have the magnet acting on the gyroscope, the ferrofluid inside the gyroscope would start to slow it down due to friction because it's not a solid mass, so the two masses would rub up against each other, converting kinetic energy into heat energy. The magnet would increase this affect massively, most likely bringing the gyroscope to a halt after a few seconds, since now the ferrofluid inside doesn't even want to attempt to spin along with the gyroscope and instead pool up against the side closest to the magnet.
I feel like this inevitably comes back to the same problem mentioned at the beginning of the video with other theoretical methods of harnessing Earth's rotational energy: You need some external element to have it act upon. If we were to set up some type of gyro based generator using this method, it would require the same thing that the exercise ball does to function. A separate, "planetary orbital ring" which wraps entirely around the Earth and yet does not spin alongside it. Then we could use it to generate the friction needed....But at that point there would be far simpler ways to harness the rotational energy, without needed a gyroscope
at this point, then nuclear energy becomes much cheaper compared to wrapping earth in a metallic ball.
@@diamondcreeper0982 by far lol, but to be fair we have spent decades making nuclear better/cheaper. And this wouldn’t necessarily need a full ball wrap around the earth, but a ring would do(even though thats still insane). You could basically just build a tower up to the ring with a roller on top to roll along the ring as we rotate and generate energy…would probably be cheaper than nuclear at that point. Buuut the “point” of having a planetary ring is ridiculous, and to make it not rotate with us would be basically impossible
Can you add the link to where I can buy that gyroscope?
Piezoelectric crystals to stop the gyroscopic procession or flipping perpendicular.
I have the same question as a lot of other people though: How much energy is required to start and keep the gyroscope spinning? Magnetic bearings and a vacuum chamber could reduce it, but by how much? Could you generate enough electricity to offset?
how about the weather at the equater at latitudes north and south and altitude (nano?)
...I envision many containers (temporal) and thermal vortexes carrying humidity at barometric pressures
...maybe dip a copper bee bee in zinc to extract electromagnetic charges like lightning bugs and electric eels do
STATIC ELECTRICITY (angular momentum)
apply the Pendulum to the gyroscope in a helium container of polyethylene chloride ion inertia (polarized)
How about electricity from the piezoelectrical effect of atmospheric pressure variations on large rock formations?
This is what happens when I got an remote controller car it has lights on the wheels and when I was using it the battery’s fell out and it was still moving and I realize the light takes a while to go out and I decided to put back the battery’s in the car and driving it and if fell out again and the same thing happens the light takes some time to go out I was confused then I take out the battery’s and decided to push it after I pushed it I started seen the light Comming up the more faster I push it. So is this also a gyroscope ?
Thinking aloud.... Any gyro you make on earth will be rotating with the Earth. So to make it become that stationary external object you will have to put some initial energy into it. Wont trying to extract energy cause the gyro to try and rotate with the Earth again? Wont the energy you get out always be equal to the initial energy you had to put in?
I always thought about a big fly wheel in space and then wirelessly transmitting the energy to earth
You can extract energy from earths rotation using a look skyhook. Lifting a lump of mass up to the geostationary orbit requires some energy. But at higher altitudes you can extract energy since the mass is pushed up due to the centrifugal force. The amount of energy is just limited by the length of the cable. At the end of the cable the mass is released.
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How about increasing the speed of eath an then try to extract energy such that even if earth gets slowed the days, years and time of earth will not change.
Is that possible?
If you use the principle of the magnetic compass, you can harvest the magnetic energy of the earth.
Use 3x electro magnet bars crossed on a center pivot.
Let the wires touch a copper bowtie half positive and half negative, like a brush.
So that only 1 is on at a time.
This magnet wil rotate to North South until it drops off the bowtie.
By this time the next magnet activate and so on.
This will create a motor of which the stator is the earth.