The Secret Of Lines Tension | Kiteboarding Tutorial by advakite.com
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- You can fix a lot of problems with your riding by using your lines tension properly. When they teach, they don't explain this topic in details, however it's one of the most important aspects of using your kite properly.
Learning To Fly ep. I - vimeo.com/ondemand/learningto...
Learning To Fly ep. II - vimeo.com/ondemand/learningto...
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Gear used in the video: Core Kiteboarding kites: XR6 7m, 8m, 10m, GTS4 8m.
Core kiteboarding boards: Choice3 135.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:27 Why lines tension is important?
01:00 The gradient of tension
02:30 Lines tension and upwind performance
03:16 Instruments to measure lines tension
03:40 Tension numbers at the beach
04:00 Tension numbers while riding
04:49 Peaks of tension
05:23 How riding a proper stance feels like
06:15 My other videos to master lines tension - Sport
I've always wondered about the numbers. Cool to see someone testing it 👌
Such a cool guy and such well made tutorials. I "bought" Learning to fly - and every minute is worth the money. Thanks for your content Anton, I really do appreciate it!
Hey, thanks for your words and for supporting my work! Really happy to hear, that it helps!
Yeah, I also bought it and it's awesome material, 100% would recommend to everybody!
Love it brother! Especially the part where you explain that you want to match your weight in order to edge correctly. Bravo professor!!!!
Hey, Mikie, thanks, bro! Do you remember that evening in Cape Town? All the key ideas came from there. Thank you for that very creative and detailed discussion, you are the best!
So both videos from you Mike and Anton with subjct abt energy generated by kite system. Now every aspect "how it work" to higher jumps like shinig daimond. Thnks guys so much👍👊
Yeah that’s really cool you and Anton explains the same from different points of view with different words. It creates 3D picture and many people understood the Line Tension subject )
So I used to be a competitive gymnast and you sound like my coach. Its all physics and biomechanics. The breaking down of skill sand mastering fundamentals for a LLOOONG time before progressing is all what gymnastics is about. You are example to us all Anton.
Great investigation and presentation of results, Anton! You are the Tupolev of kiteboarding! Much love from Spain!
) Haha, it's a heritage. My father was an engineer for Tupolev aircraft electronics) proud to here your words!)
My main kiteboarding man Anton is back, yeah baby! Thank you for all your hard work on these videos, they are super informative and a pleasure to watch. Peace!
Hey! Thanks a lot) these words mean a lot to me!
Next big thing in kiteboarding: bars with load indicator. I hope manufacturers are watching this 😃
Great job! Thanks a ton!
Hi!
Yes, I was thinking about such a device for a while) This line tension thing is very underestimated so far!
Indeed, might be a nice addition to Woo
I had the same idea but with extra functions like wind forecast, actual speed, jump highest and so on.. but i lerned in an other video on youtube that allready a patent exists for that. :/ That made me a little bit sad. As an electrical student i wanted to build something like that...
@@Okayler1337 Don't be put off by the patent. If you are really interested then get your options checked out.
And a green light for jump moment. You could think nothing just wait until the green light flash and yank! )
Антох, колоссальная работа!!! Прям вот реально отлично всё проработано и понятно. А видеть родные споты ещё приятнее))) Спасибо!
Коль, спасибо большое, я очень старался) Да, Хрящевка получает мировую известность постепенно)) Уж не раз засветилась.
Тони - очень сильно и круто! Это даёт столько пищи для размышлений!!! Огромное спасибо за проделанную работу и за то что делишься опытом! Это бесценно 🔥🔥🔥🤗👍🤙
Богданыч, спасибо тебе, дружище! Ценю твое отношение! Спасибо!
Truly appreciate the work you do! I bought learning to fly and it's definitely a game changer!!
Thank you! Thanks to you and other guys who buy that Learning to fly series I am still able to create my video! It's the only reason!
Gongrats Anton: most clear didactic in you videos!!! Thank you
Amazing work and lesson! You’re truly a GREAT teacher!!! Thanks mate!!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘
Keep the good work! Super interesting. Thanks man.
Great video and explanations. Top notch video as always Anton!
Hey! Thank you, Rhonda! Really appreciate your words!!
Highly professional video! Congrats and many thanks for creating it
Thank you for your words! Really appreciate it!
Really great to see the line loading weights. alot of effort went into the graphics, great job
Thank you! Yea, it was challenging to film that as well) In the end that hand scale was eaten from the inside with salty water completely) Only rust left
Wonderful video as usual. Thanks!
Great video man, keep the good work!
great job as usual
Thanks, trying to keep the high quality.
Thank you, Anton! Great Video!
Thank you, happy to hear that! If you have a chance, could you please share this video in your local kite group or something like that to help me with spreading the word a bit! I would really appreciate that!
Hey thanks Anton... makes a lot of sense and you always make me think about things..? Great Video as always 'You are the Man' Cheers mate... 👊
))) Great to hear that! Thank you!
May be you'll have a chance to share this video in your local kite group or something like that to help me with spreading the word a bit! I would really appreciate that!
Thanks dude, so cool to share 🤙
Amazing, thank you so much!
Awesome subject and awesome explanations as always! 🤙
Hey! Thank you so much, great to hear that. If you think that it's a valuable content, maybe you could share this video in your local kite group or something like that to help me with spreading the word a bit! I would really appreciate that!
Since I saw this vid I have been working on line tension. And holy shit, it makes a big difference! Thanks for sharing the knowledge !
Hey! Very happy to hear that it helped! Thanks for letting me know 🙏
simply WOW, super informative, production at highest level, very interesting topic well covered! thanks Anton for making this video
Hey! Thanks, bro! I am still using some of your footage! Locking forward to seeing your, me friend!
Anton Chernyshov same my bro! Start checking tickets to Brazil, we are assembling Cape Town team again
@@majcyy Great to hear that! I would be happy to join you at one of the locations for sure! Missing you, my friend!
This is the best Kiteboarding video ever!!
Thank you!!!
Thank you for your in depth tutorials, it’s really helped me out on my last few sessions, especially in strong winds. 👍
Hi! Really happy, that it helps! Thanks for watching!
Hey, I would like to ask you, if you could maybe share this video in your local kite group to help me with spreading the word a bit! I would really appreciate that!
Sure thing, my instructor is already a fan of your videos and I’ll spread the word on my next session!
Your videos are the best and most informative. Keep them coming!
I got the advanced video serie.. it's a gem 💎
Thank you so much for your words and for supporting my work! I really appreciate it! ❤️
Very well explained video! 🤙
Антон, спасибо за труды! Очень ёмко и познавательно
Пожалуйста! Рад, что это приносит пользу!)
@@antonchernyshov8759 очень помогает в прогрессе, добавил к прыжку 3-4м после просмотра 2 серий)
Совершенный, нетривиальный, творческий подход. Офигенно полезное видео. Во первых, одно удовольствие смотреть за "ступенчатым" переводом кайта 0:38, великолепное объяснение провисания строп при недостаточном упоре - реально инженерный подход, использование безмена - просто находка, куплю себе такой, чтобы настроить угол атаки для максимальной подъемной силы (посмотрим отличия с заводскими настройками)) ) Короче, Антон - ты просто Гений. СПАСИБ-АААА!
ps Дочь просто красавица, вылитая копия Папы)))
Cool part from Zelenyi Yarr!!! We are missing you, Tonych!
Missing you too, bro. Thankz zery much for ya love! Peace, man!
Awesome explanation!
Great Anton! Greetings from Ole / we’ve met on Cuyo. Keep on moving Anton!
Hey, Ole! I surely remember you, my friend! Hope, you are doing fine! Thanks, I'll do my best to keep up the work!)
Awesome video brother! 👌🤙
Really good work! Keep on filming. 👍😉
Thank you, I'll do my best!)
Love the experiment
Another great video!
Thanks! I am glad, that you like it!
Super nice video!! Awesome editing skills!
Thank you! I'm trying to grow better and better skills in After Effects!))
@@antonchernyshov8759 what programs do you use? And Apple or windows?
Very good work
Hey Anton, I haven't seen this one but good job buddy👌🏽🤙🏽🤘🏽
Thanks, man! Glad that you like it!
@@antonchernyshov8759 we have green light for the Full Power Tarifa on Wednesday, keep an eye to the live streaming, the level is insane 🤘🏽🤘🏽
Very interesting like always, Thank you.
Thanks, I'm trying to improve)
Good as always :)
Thank you so much)))
Nice!
So engaging your leg muscles can actually cause more line tension than just using your body weight. Hence I always felt I can hold more power with a waist harness rather than a seat harness, though many people say the opposite.
Hi!
Extending your legs definitely create some extra tension, especially together with leaning back more and edging the board more. But it's about creating a pulse of tension, it's a short increase of load.
@@antonchernyshov8759 Would you also say that depends on the kite?
E.g. with a c-kite, more about riding in fast, building a progressive edge and sending it fast, whereas a slow turning kite like the XR would be more about carving upwind as sharp as possible (maybe even doing that pre-load pop before) to compensate for the lack of sending speed?
XR seems to jump more downwind as opposed to the side to side pendulum motion from c-like kites.
good video, thanks
Brilliant.
Very great video. I bought all of your video. Can you suggest me the size of the kiss to use to proper tensions of the line. I'm 77 kg. I have a dice 8 and 11. But I don't know when change between this 2 kite. I use to ride in chop water.
как всегда на высоте)
Спасибо, стараемся!)
Great video! I just bought 'Learning to fly'. I made a video myself, and i'll maybe make a review video about your online class. I'm sure it will work! I will keep you updated
Amazing explanation and edditing
Thank you very much! If you have a chance, could you please share this video in your local kite group or something like that to help me with spreading the word a bit! I would really appreciate that!
Спасибо за гайд! Стоит ожидать русских субтитров или стоит переводить для себя некоторые моменты самостоятельно?
Надеюсь гайд пригодится!)
Да, я обязвтельно сделаю субтитры, я думаю, сегодня-завтра будет готово. Просто заранее обычно не делаю,хочется поскорее выложить видос)
спасибо. на русском было бы еще познавательнее)
Great to see you in video again Anton!
I think that there is also an intimidating component of self conservation (as natural to be) that slow down everybody of going really fast and then big, as beginner/intermediate kitesurfer I'm experiencing it, I'm trying my first jumps step by step incrementing every time to be sure of having control on the jump... (still without proper landing...) you have some suggestion on that? there are some hidden small "dangers" in making small/medium jumps the first times that a beginner should be aware of? any advice would be great, I know you have a big experience on the argument...
Hi!
From my experience, there is no way to fight against our self-preserving instinct, unless you feel, that everything is safe. It's always like that with building up jump height. I go 20 OK, I feel less sure closer to 25 just because I am not sure about the landing. Height itself does not scare that much. And when I master multiple heli loops better and better, only then I feel safer. You say landing are missing. Land 10 out of 10 smoothly is the only way to feel safe. What is happening, does the board skid? Or you drop too fast?
Hi!
From my experience, there is no way to fight against our self-preserving instinct, unless you feel, that everything is safe. It's always like that with building up jump height. I go 20 OK, I feel less sure closer to 25 just because I am not sure about the landing. Height itself does not scare that much. And when I master multiple heli loops better and better, only then I feel safer. You say landing are missing. Land 10 out of 10 smoothly is the only way to feel safe. What is happening, does the board skid? Or you drop too fast?
@@antonchernyshov8759 Yeah! I'm at the very start with jumps, actually the kite always front stall probably because I'm not redirecting it for landing? or maybe I'm releasing a little the bar when I'm up...
I have to release a little the bar or the bar must be kept ALL IN in any case? wich should be the maneuver to stop going up and start coming down? or I simply can't decide this and have to wait to come down when the jump energy is exhausted?
What kite do you have? And was is front stalling? Does it fall from the sky to the front, around it's leading edge?
Sure, the bar is the way to control the jump. If you want to start descending, you should sheet it out. However, you can still sheet in for softer landing.
Sure, the landing is better when your bar is in. Yes, sometimes we let the bar go to correct the balance. Try to analyze, how you can fix you balance to keep the bar in. For example, if you always feel like leaning to the right with your bar in, try to start leaning to the left from the beginning of jump to correct that without letting the bar go.
@@antonchernyshov8759thank you Anton for your advice! I have ozone Zephyr v5 17m and ozone Catalyst V1 12 and 9m (all delta kites), yes the kite fall to the front around the leading edge that point down,
so maybe I'm not edging and popping properly with board and in this way I overcome the kite...
Great video, thanks.
Am I right to say line tension will also be a function of a correctly trimmed kite?
Thank you! Sure, proper lines length is something that should be there by default. If you set the trimmer to full power and sheet the bar in with your kite at 12 (in very light wind, when sheeting in doesn't move you anywhere), your kite should start to backstall (fall towards its trailing edge) after 3-5 seconds after sheeting the bar in.
Hey Anton, great Video again! Is there any Tipp for maintaining full Tension while sheeting out after sending and right before the "Takeoff-Pull"? I sometimes feel like I´m loosing some Tension right there at the very last Moment, before I pull the bar in again. Keep it up, I own both of your learning to fly Episodes and love ´em. Greets! Nelson
Hi! Thanks for supporting my work!
At this moment I think that only dynamic load can help you maintain full tension and use this tension for a last short sending to 12 right before lift-off. I think it can be described as series of jump-like moves you do as you approach lift-off point. It is called "pre-load pop" nowadays. You should land and hit the water hard right when your kite is about 11 o'clock already. You mass and inertia of falling down helps you to gain additional tension in the lines.
@@antonchernyshov8759 Thank you :) really appreciate how you treat comments!
Really nice one! I wonder that no-one before came with this idea. Do you also measure the load of an Mega-Loop?
But to be honest, I thought its even more load before take-off. How powered do you was?
I would not say that the yank of megaloop itself is harder, than riding powered before take-off. Obviously, you don't have any grip in the air, so not many ways to resist your kite pulling you through the loop)
@@antonchernyshov8759 hehe, sure. But it would be interesting to know as well
Great video as always, learn to fly 1 & 2 were well worth the money, when it comes to flying lines, the lines on the core pro bar are thinner than ordinary lines and less stretchy, is this noticeable when on the water ie less drag and quicker to build lines tension ?
Hi! Thanks for supporting my work so much! Yes, I like those pro bar lines a lot! I wouldn't say that I feel less drag, but they stretch less for sure, if compared to other brands I have. Even after 1-1,5 seasons of powered loops and big air they are still in good shape. Sometimes they start to fade a bit early, regarding the color, but stay solid for long time.
Anton Chernyshov thank you for your reply, Will you be in tarifa or elsewhere in Europe coaching in the near future?
Thank you! Very clear and well explained! Your technical understanding is impressive! How do you see jumping in lighter wind in light of your model? P.S.: tried to purchase your training video recently but somehow struggled with some technical issues...
Hi! Thank you!
What do you mean, how I see to myself full light wind jump scenario?
I think, the idea is the same, main difference is that you do that last step of sending the kite later, because big sized kite will drag you downwind more. So, for example, for 8 m kite you will do your final sending to 12 from 10.30. With big kite in light wind it would be like 11.something. If I got you right
Anton Chernyshov yes thanks - this was my point - I think I somehow struggle to adapt the timing when riding a 17m in light 14 knts or 10m at 23knts...will keep this model in mind to send the large kite later (indeed it easily pulls you downwind when really sending it...) thanks again!
hello great video 😃 I have a question concerning line drag, tension and kite reaction turning speed. I have always flown with 25m ozone lines with my 7m in 35-40knots thinking longer lines will always go higher because of the power stroke plus in a storm there a bit more of a comfortable ride in the strong wind, However I do have a set of 23m ozone lines would this be more of an advantage instead of the 25m lines in the strong wind mentioned, this is for Bigair jumping only, woo scores (not powered kite loops) any help much applicated thankyou.
when you talk about higher line tension, are you talking about the front lines or backlines(steering lines)?
amazing video
Thank you 🙏
Он снова с нами 🤭. Спасибо да видео, думаю среди кайтбордеров немало людей, которым необходимо сперва понять , чтобы действовать (а не просто "почувствуй" ) . Сколько времени занимает создание подобного ролика у тебя (если не брать каталку - я так понимаю на нее нужен в целом минимум день съемок в идеальных условиях, когда все могут ?!)?
Привет! Да уж, снова с вами)) Спасибо за то, что вы тоже снова со мной!
Съемки чисто измерительного процесса заняли дня 3-4. Там не меньше трех попыток было, после каждой приходилось разбирать, сушить и снова герметиком заливать весы, но вода все равно находила путь для пары капель. Остальные съемки, кроме всяких общих планов, ну тоже дня 3-4 в разнобой.
Дольше всего занимает монтаж и инфографика. На это ушло месяца два с половиной, наверное.
@@antonchernyshov8759 🤯 офигеть , втрое больше работы, чем кажется. 💪
@Anton Chernyshov can you please tell if it's better to ride with the kite at 45 degrees or as low as possible (almost touching water)?
My "God of Kitesurfing" with a new and amazing Video. Thank you for it!! I really appreciate it
Come on))) You are more than welcome!)
The measurement neglects steering line tension, which is probably much less than the harness/hook tension but not negligible?
With the bar pulled all the way in, isn't the steering and power line tension supposed to be about equal?
Hey! That is a very interesting remark, thank you! Sure there is some amount of tension that is partly distributed to the bar. Especially, when you sheet it in completely and it hits the chicken loop (however, I normally don't do it that hard). So, all these measurements are for sure very approximate, just to let people know, what amount of pull should they feel on their harness hook.
Comparing front and back line tension amounts they are for sure far from being equal. Imagine. This hand scale gave me about 100 kg of load on the hook when riding powered. I know, I am not able to lift such weight with my bar) I would let it go, I think)
Would be nice to know how much tension while cruising on a foil...
If less than 5kg foiling with a leash on a drone would be an option :! -)
Есть такое понятие как динамический коэффициент, добавляющий натяжение на стропы в момент ускорения кайта в ветровом потоке. В этом случае критичным становится угол атаки кайта. В данном случае необходимо рассматривать кайт и райдера как динамическую маятниковую систему. Это всё объясняет. Увеличить скорость реакции кайта можно просто накачав кайт до жёсткой конструкции,чтобы уши не гуляли.
Совершенно справедливо замечено! Так и делаем. Я качаю до 11 пси. Все равно гуляет баллон. Ну мягкая тряпка, как ни крути..
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
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Are you in tarifa this summer teaching/coaching ?
No, unfortunately. I think they still didn't open EU border for Russians, not sure when it will happen.
Anton Chernyshov ah that’s a shame, please give an update when you are planning something for tarifa
First 🤘
Круто.
Спасибо!
the brother of 434
Hi Anton, once again - awesome tutorial! Thanks so much! Don´t know how often I watched your Learning to fly - Tutorials until today! I just received my new Core 3+ Bar and we will be in Greece the next 3 weeks to try it out :) Can´t wait. Can I ask you one thing? In your Learning to fly - Tutorials you are not a friend of a preload pop e.g. like Mike is showing it czcams.com/video/6TErsQSQD8Q/video.html. Or is this something you would recommend as well? Thanks for all & have a great windy summer! Best regards from Munich Daniel
Hey, Daniel! Thanks for you comment! Man, I still don't have that third generation bar, can't wait)
Regarding that pre-load pop, I would say, that that skill is much harder than it looks like. I see people trying to copy that and having they height decreased as a result. However, this technique definitely works and if you are able to perform it properly, it gives you very powerful boost and tons of hangtime, it feels like another world of jumps. But it deserves another episode of Learning To Fly to explain it in details) You should master powered stance for sure, and be able to push off from water and bend your knees aggressively to "suck" the board up from the water. The trick is to pop with high lines tension level and your kite at 40 degrees, which is pretty tricky in the beginning. It's not an ollie, it's a "powered pop".
Anton Chernyshov thanks so much Anton!! 🤘🤘🤘 have a great weekend
a sucker ball
Интересный урок ! А как же русские пацаны поймут ...? Хотя бы титры перевели .
Great investigation and presentation of results, Anton! You are the Tupolev of kiteboarding! Much love from Spain!
Great investigation and presentation of results, Anton! You are the Tupolev of kiteboarding! Much love from Spain!