"God-Emperor? Calling him a god is why this mess started in the first place." - Bjorn the Fell Handed's apt summary on why everything went wrong in the Great Crusade
Same with Lehman talking to horus for the first time .he says something like when a God comes to our planet and tells you their are no gods it's hard to get ur head around . Russ says to horus in wolfsbane .
I wonder how the other chapters treat with him, because he is one of the very few portals back to those ancient days. I imagine every chapter master would ask if he ever met their primarch and what they were like. Respect from more than just the wolves.
I guess with full respect - apart from the ones with suicidal tendencies ;) - considering that even a Grey Knight (who just fought Angron, and survived it) bent the knee for him.
Well the Grey Knights certainly do. He singlehandedly told them, the Inquisition AND the wolves to calm the fuck down and every single one of them went "Well...alrighty then."
Keenan Haasbroek Well, it would be interesting to see Azrael speaks with Bjorn. And just imagine Bjorn’s reaction to this prick. I almost pity this Arrogant Bastard. Almost.
Most of the "Venerable Ones" are treated with intense respect by any and all Chapters of Astartes. They're warriors who gave their all, and continue to give their all even after paying the blood price. Bjorn is venerated because he's the only non-Primarch who can remember the Emperor, remember the missing Primarchs, and for the fact he's served the Imperium for ten millenia (closer to 11 now, actually). So...I wouldn't imagine anyone showing anything but the utmost respect for him, ever.
That would be legit, and also hooking Bjorn up with a pimpin new super dread chassis. Or like hey by the way i have this contemptor class just sitting around or sumthing. Bjorn need a new more badass model
I remember when I was a kid my local Games Workshop held an auction where they sold off a lot of the store's models. I remember the bidding for the store's Bjorn the Fel Handed being particularly fierce, maybe the fiercest of all.
"You… You walked in the Age of the Emperor?" Bjorn made the gear-grinding chuckle again. "Walked, ran, pissed and killed. I did it all. I met the Allfather, you know. Fought at his side more than once. I do believe he liked me." Kysnaros slowly, slowly went to his knees. Bjorn the Fell-Handed, also known as "the Eldest," "Trueclaw," "Revered One," and "Last from the Company of Russ." FOR THE ROUT!
Not having ventris there when pappa smurf woke up was a travesty to me, since he is the only one of the ultra smurf king's sons who's not so wrapped in the codex to do it. I will probably quit 40k if Bjorn isn't there after waiting for his king for 10k years. Im like the wolf lord here. That man machine can die with the howling in his ears, so long as he knows the king of the volka fenrika has returned, i will be ok with that. Though i want russ to explain himself for leaving the most proven and loyal marine in all 30k-40k history to suffer so long.
How would you like a Bjorn and Russ reunion handled? On the battlefield, or would you like Russ to awaken Bjorn from his sleep? Would Bjorn punch him for abandoning him all those millennia ago?
@@xSoVi3tx yeah i would expect him to cold cock him like i did my brother after 8 years of war kept us apart without direct word. The wolf of his day would understand that even a king has to answer questions especially from his jarls. Now in battle with magnus wold be too obvious, maybe mortarion, russ is not a fan of his anyway. Or the next chaos primarch gw is launching since we know one is coming before too long. Heck the volka fenrika have plenty if belligerents of suitable stature hanging about, pick one. An awakening would still need a fat lip, but a "lets make the snows run red with the murder make once more fellhanded!" Wouldnt go amiss.
Especially considering he teleported onto a Grey Knight's vessel after Grimnar had slain a Grand Master and out forced them all to stop fighting... all just by showing up.
Yeah, I wonder what that would look like. I mean, they were arch rivals, brothers, couldn't stand eachother though being friends, hated seeing eachother, yet always cared for one another and after the Lion went missing, Russ even left for a over 10k years long journey to find him. Guess despite all they have done for eachother, as soon as they'll meet again, their pride would kick in and they'll start pissing eachother off again. :D
I kinda want russ to return and put Bjorn to rest. Like sleep now great warrior, the fang is in my hands now. Russ expressing his love and gratitude for Bjorn long watch.
@@keenanhaasbroek1491 yeah maybe he is damaged beyond repair on the battle field, taking a hit for russ or something. I wasn't meaning russ was just gonna roll up and turn him off like an oven left on lol
@@paulhuston9991 russ just pops in tho the fang, hey guys my bad I left the bjorn on, let me just switch that off and I'll be off back into the eye of terror. My bad really embarrassed about this.
You know, with crossing the Rubicon Primaris apparently being able to save and restore those who were beyond even a dreadnought's ability to recover, perhaps we could see some of those who were entombed in dreadnoughts returned to the flesh?
@@keenanhaasbroek1491 It was talked about in the lore for one of the big characters that crossed the Rubicon already. One of the earlier chapters, I think, but not sure. I remember Chapter Master Valrak talking about it in one of his vids.
Aperently redemtor dreds are overcharging their batteris, so they dont live as long as the classic dreads. dont remember where i read that, but its intresting
@The serpent must die Yeah, that's the one I was thinking about. He was apparently too far gone, even for a dreadnought, so they made him one of the first to cross the Rubicon, and it regenerated him.
I believe Lazarus of the Dark Angels was too damaged, even for a dreadnought, but the Rubicon brought him back. If they can bring people back who are too far gone for dreadnoughts then theres a chance Bjorn could be brought back by it. The only way I'd be cool with it is if Russ commanded it himself upon his return. That would make sense lorewise to me and that would be one hell of a good read!
Bjorn is such a legend. I love reading any books where he makes an appearance. And I agree, he definitively deserves to be there when/if Russ returns, it just wouldn't be right, or the same, if he wasn't.
I don't rhink they had one. From my understanding Russ told Bjorn to stay behind while the rest of the Wolf Guard went into the Eye of Terror and never explained why.
Bjorn is almost as old as his dad now, minus a centry or so and has spoken bluntly with him plenty. I expect Bjorn will welcome him home and then, like any wolf, cal him in his bull crap. He called out the grey knights, several ordos of the inquisition and im sure he has stayed away from the high lords fir a reason. Wolves aren't stupid, they aren't savages, they just don't have a working brain mouth filter. Want 2 more examples? Russ meeting horus the first time, aaaannnddd ragnar meeting.... well... anyone he has met at all! I suspect russ will be contrite. Like my dad, "sorry boy, i just ran out for smokers and milk 29500 years ago. The only store open was in the eye of terror and we got lost for a while." Prodigal son... not a chance, big E doesn't give fan fare, just "get back to work". Prodigal father however.... i suspect half the legion will do something no astartes has ever done.... GET CRITICAL ALCOHOL POISONING!!!!🤣 Those oolitic kidneys are going to be going off like mt st hellen and i feel bad for the serfs and even the servators in the fang... its going to take a repurpose of gun survitors to get that mess fixed!
I believe the actual conversation was along the lines of: When Russ and his Wolf Guard were about to leave, he turned to Bjorn and said, "Not you." When Bjorn asked why, Russ just said, "Not you." And that was that. So Bjorn has had to "live" with that mystery for ten-thousand years. Sympathies for all the old, loyal dogs out there.
Its in the book(or audio book cant remember) parting ways and it talks not only about his reaction to being left behind but about being interred in a dreadnought his first words being " I am eternal" kinda leading to believe russ had some minor abilities of premonition as Bjorn was left to guide the legion( theres some mention of russ going hazy eyed like he was t there before leaving and making his proclamation that the wolves will punish the traitors)
"So NOW you decide to show up? Had I still my physical hands, I would punch you." Everyone in earshot froze, stunned, by the words of the Fell Handed to their returned Primarch. Russ, for his part, laughed. The fate of his old friend aside, the dreadnaught body, it was good to hear someone speak their mind to him. Not sure if it'll go anything like that, but I'm sure Russ would appreciate it that he'd get to talk to his old friend.
Even in death the Old Man still serves without question and without doubt and when the Wolftime comes the Fell Handed will fight side by side with the Wolf King once again
I would love to see a new Dreadnought, some slower, heavier version of the Redemptor that they can just smack an existing Dreadnought's sarcophagus in to get around the whole 'so high performance it's frying the pilot' thing the Redemptor has going on. It would be refreshing to throw a character into an upgraded Dreadnought rather than having them all just become Primaris, and let us get updated Dreadnought characters.
I still treasure all my METAL Bjorn Ragnar Njal and Ulrick models and the rest of my metal Grey wolves, long fangs and Blood Claws from the first day they came out so many long years ago. I am starting to feel a Bjorn myself in respect of the Warhammer 40k community. I still have the first plastic space marine mk6 mins.
Gotta love Bjorn. One of my favorite characters in the whole series. If anyone deserves a rest its him. 10,000 years of war. And a very wise individual to boot. Just an absolute legend. An echo of times long past but never forgotten.
I'm just dipping my toes into the lore but already I would love to see some righteous artwork depicting Dreadnought Bjorn and Russ returned for the Wolftime.
Bjorn is and always will be my favorite character from the Space Wolves. His dedication and humanity, while being "reduced" to an inhuman dreadnought always strike me. He has a wisdom and power that is undeniable. He is in a place within the chapter that I don't think even comes close to existing outside the Vylka Fenrika. He still remembers the time when calling them Space Wolves was a dire insult and something that was only barely tolerated. He tells the leadership of the Chapter he has no interest or desire to do things and that is that. They want to go to Prospero? He declines, stating hes been there before and has no need to return, especially since with the power of hindsight and history, he knows that he and his were used to betray and destroy/drive away their brothers. I love the sense of proud warrior who is also troubled by the past and the way things happened, regardless of how they fought to make it different. Bjorn truly is a figure that is so often neglected and under utilized in the greater 40k lore. There are few in the Imperium who are this old, including other dreadnoughts. And even fewer as sane and focused as he. He is a living connection to the Legion of his birth. I think that connection has been part of why the Wolves have stayed so focused and committed to the values of the Emperor as opposed to the modern bastardizations and corruptions wrought by time and politics. He can stand there amongst the "young ones" and tell them of the past in the first person. Not because its a story told over and over down through the millenia by his predecessors. But instead because he lived it. He remembers it. He was there when the dream of the Emperor was nearly snuffed out by his traitor sons. He was there when his father committed the entire Legion to the destruction of Horus to try and stave off the invasion of Tera. He saw the spear strike true and for a moment saw Horus return to his old self. God, the connection to the past and traditions is such an important thing for a civilization such as the Imperium. I don't think the Wolves under Grimnar would have dared to stare down the Inquisition and Grey Knights following Armageddon had they not had that connection to their true past as remembered by someone still alive. They might have been more superstitious and herectical in their worship of the God Emperor like their Templar cousins. Maybe they would have happily watched the murder of so many loyal warriors of the Imperium.
It's possible that Bjorn might have been present on Terra as a Wolf Blade in service to House Belisarius at the time of the Emporer's interment on the Golden Throne. I believe that House Belisarius have been mentioned in the fluff as providing navigators to Russ at the time of the Horus Heresy so there is a link there which could explain why a handful of Space Wolves were there to witness it.
@@keenanhaasbroek1491 It's at the end of the Months of Shame. Was a quiet funny passage when the inquisition and the grey knights all got a boner when they learned how old Bjorn is and that he had actually talked to the Emperor himself back in the day. I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of: Inquisitor: "You walked alongside our Emperor?" Bjorn: "Walked, talked, ate, drank, pissed, everything. I think he quiet liked me." After that, the inquisition and the grey knights went on their knees before him. :D
For some reason I can picture Bjorn giving Russ a backhander "for leaving me behind!" Before welcoming him back. And Russ would, of course, take it because I would imagine he'd fully understand.
This is an extremely beautiful and emotionally moving video, not just due to the subject matter, but also your delivery of it which is filled with the enthusiasm of a true fan. I can sense it in your words that you can see it all from Bjorn's eyes and heart. Ave !
It would make quite a scene, bjornn meeting with russ after 10,000 years. It would be a nice story arch for bjornn as well and it would be a funny to see a dreadnought trying to kneel.
The most heartbreaking and best (if you ask me) story-development for both Bjorn and Leman Russ, would be for Bjorn to be there to hear or even witness Leman's return, but somehow die before they could reunite, with Leman being just exactly too late (unknowingly) to save Bjorn. This would be an extremely interesting character crucible for Leman to go through (again, if you ask me).
26 years ago... It is just mind blowing that after 3 decades Russ might return. I can’t even imagine what the old-school fans now feeling. Aaaand, yeah, even all Space Viking stuff is just not my thing, but Bjorn... well, Space Viking or not, only the Primarchs could be more badass than him.
Great one dude. My love of 40k and the lore that comes with it started with the 2nd edition I remember reading this at the time thank you for bringing that feeling back dude o7
There should be a scene where Bjorn meets Guilliman and Guilliman remember s the fell handed. Also agree that Bjorn should be there to welcome Russ' return
That picture of Bjorn is so fking good. Every time i see it i always sit around for several minutes, just looking at the details of both Bjorn and all the stuff in the background.
Two years too late, but I still have something to say. Bjorn pains my heart alot, because I dread the day I hear him say words a recent Dreadnought said- "I did not think I'd ever feel the chill of air, on my flesh again..." And honestly. It'd only break my heart more, to see Bjorn finally reunite with Lemen Russ, the other wolves from the warp, and Bjorn meeting the Wolf King, dying at his feet. Having held the line, payed the extra price, done his duty beyond death, and finally, got to see, the King of The Russ. As they share one last moment, but Bjorn gets to die, seeing what he always believed. His Primarch's return. To see the other wolves who weren't from their time, finally see, what Bjorn has spoke of- What Logan has spoken of.
I have been a Space Wolves player from the beginning of my time playing 40K. I still have the old metal Bjorn. The story for my Great Company, following the retcon in the whole Fall of Cadia stuff that there were 17 Great Companies deployed to the Battle of Cadia, is that the Wold Lord of it is leading a Great Hunt following the events of Warzone: Fenris...and that Bjorn insists on coming out to some of his battles, where they are in the tracks of places he and Lemann Russ had fought, his knowledge and wisdom being sought in these places because it is hoped that it will lead to clues tracking where the Primarch had gone. I deploy Bjorn always with a group of Wolf Guard Terminators with Company Emblems not from my great company, but from all the different ones that they made shoulderpads for. Why? Because those Wolf Guard are not the guard for the Wold Lord..they are the honour guard for the Bjorn himself. (Yes, Bjorn has all these weapon options on the newer plastic model...but I will always field him with the Assault Cannon and True Claw w/ Heavy Flamer. Nothing else seems right.)
There was a book where the Inquisition went to talk to the Space Wolves and as a tactic to get the upper hand they had Bjorn negotiate with them. Since he is considered an Imperial Relic the delegation from the Inquisition had to negotiate on their knees.
I wonder how a meeting between Bjorn and Guilliman would go? As for Bjorn being there during the Emperor’s internment, I can imagine several plausible scenarios. He could be on detached duty at the time and just happened to be there or plausibly, he’s with the vanguard of Space Wolves returning to Terra with Russ arriving later, after the internment. Lots of ideas to play around with there.
Love your stuff, I got an idea for a series as you know every major chapter has a process of joining and being selected I'd love to hear you explain the process.
There was a story, I believe Baldermort narrated it, about a SM was put into a sarcophagus after the whole chapter was lost. Years later a imperial guard general sent to the imperium to stand up this chapter. The Primarch read the letter eventually, the chapter was reconstituted with Primaris once they found the only living SM in the Deathwatch as a Dreadnaught. Apparently the Primaris Rubicon process was able to regrow his limbs and he was installed as Chapter Master. Maybe something like this could be gifted to Bjorn?
I fell for Bjorn with Dan Abnett's "Prospero Burns". How couldn't you love that guy, and for too pass into the annals of living history. . . I hope that there is a primaris future for him.
What needs to happen is a massive battle with the Wolfs forced onto the back foot vs Word Bearers and Thousand Sons. They are barely holding the line when a demon comes and damages the dread. Then a portal opens wolfen fall and a massive Rus stand amongst them with a rescued Issah and 2 fruits from the tree of life. He ripps open the sarcophagus and forces it into his old friends mouth saving him and repelling the assault. With maybe a rematch of the battle of giants.
He didn't just meet bjorn.. Bjorn was one of his wolfguard, the strongest fighting group in the space wolves trusted with protecting the primarch himself.. All chapters have an elite guard version like the blood angels have the sanguinary guard, the ultramarines have the axes of ultramar and the raven guard have the shadow wing..
I used to be a Space Wolf until they released the wulfen in 3rd edition. I painted my army black out of shame and went to the standard marine codex. Every good release for the wolves is so bitter sweet now. Bjorn is a metal god! Ever wonder how Russ would feel meeting Bjorn again? Would he be happy to see his friend who should be long dead or would it upset him to see his youngest champion as a machine?!
Bjorn could have arrived to Terra as part of an advanced elements of the Legion. With Russ still leading the majority of the Legion in transit to Terra. Bjorn will be there. His boon to not die til Russ entered is strong.
The Wolf King has to come back. Gulliman is fine but by the All Father, we need our father back. I wonder if Cawl could help bring him across the Rubicon. We know that Primaris can be entombed in Dreadnoughts, but what about bringing a shattered old marine to cross the Rubicon? I think it would phenomenal.
I cant understand why Guiliman has not come to see Bjorn yet. Or even at the very begining. He is the oldest living space marine in all of 40k besides the primarch himself. In fact i have have little doubt they havent met from back then. I actually started 40k in 2nd edition. I have this codex. Hell SpaceWolf was the first black library book i read.
Across the field of battle where broken wolf brothers lay. The roar of the bolter like a song rising to the blood rent skies. There a Thousndsons legionnaire holds the severed arm of a longfang hunter. Bjorn levels his assault cannon rending the traitor in two. In the distance almost like a memory stirring a howl the likes that bjorn hasn't heard in an age one that the young ones have never heard. A gray hunter approaches the venerated dreadnought "My lord Bjorn what is that dreaded howl?" Bjorn made a sound that the space marine never heard before was that laughter, was the mighty Bjorn laughing the carapace turned towards the young space wolf. "That child is the call of our lord. Russ has come home! The sons of Magnus know its call well!"
Bjorn is absolutely badass. There are exactly three Sons of Russ [that I know of] who truly deserve to bear witness to the return of the Wolf King: Bjorn, Logan, and Ragnar.
"God-Emperor? Calling him a god is why this mess started in the first place."
- Bjorn the Fell Handed's apt summary on why everything went wrong in the Great Crusade
Same with Lehman talking to horus for the first time .he says something like when a God comes to our planet and tells you their are no gods it's hard to get ur head around . Russ says to horus in wolfsbane .
That or Big E forgetting to tell the Primarchs of the chaos gods or Horus being brainwashed
@@Channel-23s Nonetheless, it's a great line which had me laughing quite a bit when I first read it.
I wonder how the other chapters treat with him, because he is one of the very few portals back to those ancient days. I imagine every chapter master would ask if he ever met their primarch and what they were like. Respect from more than just the wolves.
I guess with full respect - apart from the ones with suicidal tendencies ;) - considering that even a Grey Knight (who just fought Angron, and survived it) bent the knee for him.
Well the Grey Knights certainly do. He singlehandedly told them, the Inquisition AND the wolves to calm the fuck down and every single one of them went
"Well...alrighty then."
Keenan Haasbroek Well, it would be interesting to see Azrael speaks with Bjorn. And just imagine Bjorn’s reaction to this prick. I almost pity this Arrogant Bastard. Almost.
Most of the "Venerable Ones" are treated with intense respect by any and all Chapters of Astartes. They're warriors who gave their all, and continue to give their all even after paying the blood price. Bjorn is venerated because he's the only non-Primarch who can remember the Emperor, remember the missing Primarchs, and for the fact he's served the Imperium for ten millenia (closer to 11 now, actually). So...I wouldn't imagine anyone showing anything but the utmost respect for him, ever.
Richard Corbeille not just remember him, he fought beside him
Last time I was this early the Emperor was able to stand up
Imagine being the Emperor and reading this knowing damn well what it means several thousand years from now...lol
BJORN TO BE WIIIIIILD
Perhaps Bjorn could cross paths with a certain archmagos dominus.. “We heresy veterans have to look out for each other, so few of us left, my boy.”
That would be legit, and also hooking Bjorn up with a pimpin new super dread chassis. Or like hey by the way i have this contemptor class just sitting around or sumthing. Bjorn need a new more badass model
I have converted and used the redemptor chasis for bjorn since 8th came out lol i cannot take the lil box seriously
Who is the arch magos you speak of?
@@MRx36000 Cawl, the guy who brought guilliman back. If he could make somthing like the armor of fate i wonder what he could do for Bjorn.
Luan X Belisarius Cawl, If he cam resurrect a Primarch...
Well, Bjorn could at least meet Guilliman in the near future - would look forward to that as well (or at least dante)
Dante has met Guilliman.
my heart ached for Bjorn when he thought about breathing the cold air and feasting.
I hope he gets to fight along side Russ once more
I remember when I was a kid my local Games Workshop held an auction where they sold off a lot of the store's models. I remember the bidding for the store's Bjorn the Fel Handed being particularly fierce, maybe the fiercest of all.
As it should be..
I play tabletop, and never has my rout gone to war without Bjorn at its head. He's never let me down.
"You… You walked in the Age of the Emperor?"
Bjorn made the gear-grinding chuckle again. "Walked, ran, pissed and killed. I did it all. I met the Allfather, you know. Fought at his side more than once. I do believe he liked me."
Kysnaros slowly, slowly went to his knees.
Bjorn the Fell-Handed, also known as "the Eldest," "Trueclaw," "Revered One," and "Last from the Company of Russ."
FOR THE ROUT!
Not having ventris there when pappa smurf woke up was a travesty to me, since he is the only one of the ultra smurf king's sons who's not so wrapped in the codex to do it. I will probably quit 40k if Bjorn isn't there after waiting for his king for 10k years. Im like the wolf lord here. That man machine can die with the howling in his ears, so long as he knows the king of the volka fenrika has returned, i will be ok with that. Though i want russ to explain himself for leaving the most proven and loyal marine in all 30k-40k history to suffer so long.
How would you like a Bjorn and Russ reunion handled? On the battlefield, or would you like Russ to awaken Bjorn from his sleep? Would Bjorn punch him for abandoning him all those millennia ago?
@@xSoVi3tx I think the awakening would be better, then yes, Bjorn would challenge Russ to a fight
@@xSoVi3tx yeah i would expect him to cold cock him like i did my brother after 8 years of war kept us apart without direct word. The wolf of his day would understand that even a king has to answer questions especially from his jarls. Now in battle with magnus wold be too obvious, maybe mortarion, russ is not a fan of his anyway. Or the next chaos primarch gw is launching since we know one is coming before too long. Heck the volka fenrika have plenty if belligerents of suitable stature hanging about, pick one.
An awakening would still need a fat lip, but a "lets make the snows run red with the murder make once more fellhanded!" Wouldnt go amiss.
I shall return!
@@PaladinPoppie WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?!
ave deus mechanicus, even in the darkest of days, wolf lord rho delivers
Best scene with BJORN is in the Emperor Gift when the sons of Titan and the Inquisition meet him
Thank you for this vid
Bjorn to Russ: where you been homie?
Bjorn, the saddest little dready in the whole universe :( Russ needs to return just so Bjorn can be happy.
The Lamenter's dreadnought, Chyron
@@Skylerfi yep they are almost in the same level but again ....Lamenters ;-;
Especially considering he teleported onto a Grey Knight's vessel after Grimnar had slain a Grand Master and out forced them all to stop fighting... all just by showing up.
As a dark angel myself i would love to read that interaction.
I can't wait for the lion and the wolf to meet again 10k years later
Yeah, I wonder what that would look like. I mean, they were arch rivals, brothers, couldn't stand eachother though being friends, hated seeing eachother, yet always cared for one another and after the Lion went missing, Russ even left for a over 10k years long journey to find him.
Guess despite all they have done for eachother, as soon as they'll meet again, their pride would kick in and they'll start pissing eachother off again. :D
Lion: nice axe
Russ: noticed you copied my beard
I kinda want russ to return and put Bjorn to rest. Like sleep now great warrior, the fang is in my hands now. Russ expressing his love and gratitude for Bjorn long watch.
What an idea. But only after he fights by his primarch one last time
@@keenanhaasbroek1491 yeah maybe he is damaged beyond repair on the battle field, taking a hit for russ or something. I wasn't meaning russ was just gonna roll up and turn him off like an oven left on lol
Who knew bjorn was nothing more than a over large grey easybake oven haha
@@paulhuston9991 russ just pops in tho the fang, hey guys my bad I left the bjorn on, let me just switch that off and I'll be off back into the eye of terror. My bad really embarrassed about this.
@@beltzrobert ach i knowd i been forgetting something as soon as we left
You know, with crossing the Rubicon Primaris apparently being able to save and restore those who were beyond even a dreadnought's ability to recover, perhaps we could see some of those who were entombed in dreadnoughts returned to the flesh?
Source?
@@keenanhaasbroek1491 It was talked about in the lore for one of the big characters that crossed the Rubicon already. One of the earlier chapters, I think, but not sure. I remember Chapter Master Valrak talking about it in one of his vids.
Aperently redemtor dreds are overcharging their batteris, so they dont live as long as the classic dreads. dont remember where i read that, but its intresting
@The serpent must die Yeah, that's the one I was thinking about. He was apparently too far gone, even for a dreadnought, so they made him one of the first to cross the Rubicon, and it regenerated him.
I believe Lazarus of the Dark Angels was too damaged, even for a dreadnought, but the Rubicon brought him back. If they can bring people back who are too far gone for dreadnoughts then theres a chance Bjorn could be brought back by it. The only way I'd be cool with it is if Russ commanded it himself upon his return. That would make sense lorewise to me and that would be one hell of a good read!
Bjorn is such a legend. I love reading any books where he makes an appearance. And I agree, he definitively deserves to be there when/if Russ returns, it just wouldn't be right, or the same, if he wasn't.
I wonder what that conversation was like when Russ told Bjorn he was going to be the one to stay behind.
I don't rhink they had one. From my understanding Russ told Bjorn to stay behind while the rest of the Wolf Guard went into the Eye of Terror and never explained why.
@@ramiuschun9288 Most Likely, but like to think Bjorn would protest even a little.
Bjorn is almost as old as his dad now, minus a centry or so and has spoken bluntly with him plenty. I expect Bjorn will welcome him home and then, like any wolf, cal him in his bull crap. He called out the grey knights, several ordos of the inquisition and im sure he has stayed away from the high lords fir a reason. Wolves aren't stupid, they aren't savages, they just don't have a working brain mouth filter. Want 2 more examples? Russ meeting horus the first time, aaaannnddd ragnar meeting.... well... anyone he has met at all! I suspect russ will be contrite. Like my dad, "sorry boy, i just ran out for smokers and milk 29500 years ago. The only store open was in the eye of terror and we got lost for a while." Prodigal son... not a chance, big E doesn't give fan fare, just "get back to work". Prodigal father however.... i suspect half the legion will do something no astartes has ever done.... GET CRITICAL ALCOHOL POISONING!!!!🤣 Those oolitic kidneys are going to be going off like mt st hellen and i feel bad for the serfs and even the servators in the fang... its going to take a repurpose of gun survitors to get that mess fixed!
I believe the actual conversation was along the lines of:
When Russ and his Wolf Guard were about to leave, he turned to Bjorn and said, "Not you."
When Bjorn asked why, Russ just said, "Not you."
And that was that.
So Bjorn has had to "live" with that mystery for ten-thousand years. Sympathies for all the old, loyal dogs out there.
Its in the book(or audio book cant remember) parting ways and it talks not only about his reaction to being left behind but about being interred in a dreadnought his first words being " I am eternal" kinda leading to believe russ had some minor abilities of premonition as Bjorn was left to guide the legion( theres some mention of russ going hazy eyed like he was t there before leaving and making his proclamation that the wolves will punish the traitors)
the 2nd codex space wolves had such good fluff, one the best codex's made
In general, 2. edition had pretty good fluff. Certainly better than what we got now.
"So NOW you decide to show up? Had I still my physical hands, I would punch you." Everyone in earshot froze, stunned, by the words of the Fell Handed to their returned Primarch. Russ, for his part, laughed. The fate of his old friend aside, the dreadnaught body, it was good to hear someone speak their mind to him.
Not sure if it'll go anything like that, but I'm sure Russ would appreciate it that he'd get to talk to his old friend.
never was a big space wolf fan until getting to wolfsbane.
Even in death the Old Man still serves without question and without doubt and when the Wolftime comes the Fell Handed will fight side by side with the Wolf King once again
The Wolf Time is coming, and Bjorn is ready!
I would love to see a new Dreadnought, some slower, heavier version of the Redemptor that they can just smack an existing Dreadnought's sarcophagus in to get around the whole 'so high performance it's frying the pilot' thing the Redemptor has going on. It would be refreshing to throw a character into an upgraded Dreadnought rather than having them all just become Primaris, and let us get updated Dreadnought characters.
I still treasure all my METAL Bjorn Ragnar Njal and Ulrick models and the rest of my metal Grey wolves, long fangs and Blood Claws from the first day they came out so many long years ago.
I am starting to feel a Bjorn myself in respect of the Warhammer 40k community. I still have the first plastic space marine mk6 mins.
About the retcon, they could show that leman left Bjorne in charge of a detachment of wolves on terra and I think contemptor Bjorne would be badass.
Nah too small mate. Consider this, Leviathan Bjorne
Gotta love Bjorn. One of my favorite characters in the whole series. If anyone deserves a rest its him. 10,000 years of war. And a very wise individual to boot. Just an absolute legend. An echo of times long past but never forgotten.
I'm just dipping my toes into the lore but already I would love to see some righteous artwork depicting Dreadnought Bjorn and Russ returned for the Wolftime.
What I like about you, more than the lore itself, is your sheer enthusiasm for it.
The Emperor protects brother.
Bjorn is and always will be my favorite character from the Space Wolves. His dedication and humanity, while being "reduced" to an inhuman dreadnought always strike me.
He has a wisdom and power that is undeniable. He is in a place within the chapter that I don't think even comes close to existing outside the Vylka Fenrika. He still remembers the time when calling them Space Wolves was a dire insult and something that was only barely tolerated. He tells the leadership of the Chapter he has no interest or desire to do things and that is that. They want to go to Prospero? He declines, stating hes been there before and has no need to return, especially since with the power of hindsight and history, he knows that he and his were used to betray and destroy/drive away their brothers.
I love the sense of proud warrior who is also troubled by the past and the way things happened, regardless of how they fought to make it different.
Bjorn truly is a figure that is so often neglected and under utilized in the greater 40k lore. There are few in the Imperium who are this old, including other dreadnoughts. And even fewer as sane and focused as he. He is a living connection to the Legion of his birth. I think that connection has been part of why the Wolves have stayed so focused and committed to the values of the Emperor as opposed to the modern bastardizations and corruptions wrought by time and politics.
He can stand there amongst the "young ones" and tell them of the past in the first person. Not because its a story told over and over down through the millenia by his predecessors. But instead because he lived it. He remembers it. He was there when the dream of the Emperor was nearly snuffed out by his traitor sons. He was there when his father committed the entire Legion to the destruction of Horus to try and stave off the invasion of Tera. He saw the spear strike true and for a moment saw Horus return to his old self.
God, the connection to the past and traditions is such an important thing for a civilization such as the Imperium. I don't think the Wolves under Grimnar would have dared to stare down the Inquisition and Grey Knights following Armageddon had they not had that connection to their true past as remembered by someone still alive. They might have been more superstitious and herectical in their worship of the God Emperor like their Templar cousins. Maybe they would have happily watched the murder of so many loyal warriors of the Imperium.
It's possible that Bjorn might have been present on Terra as a Wolf Blade in service to House Belisarius at the time of the Emporer's interment on the Golden Throne. I believe that House Belisarius have been mentioned in the fluff as providing navigators to Russ at the time of the Horus Heresy so there is a link there which could explain why a handful of Space Wolves were there to witness it.
You damn right Bear is a F'N legend!!! I'd like to see an up scaled old school dread for Bjorn don't want to see him as a redemptor
even Grey Knights respect and listen to Bjorn!
Source? I would love to read that please
@@keenanhaasbroek1491 it happens in the book the emperors gift
@@keenanhaasbroek1491 It's at the end of the Months of Shame. Was a quiet funny passage when the inquisition and the grey knights all got a boner when they learned how old Bjorn is and that he had actually talked to the Emperor himself back in the day.
I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of:
Inquisitor: "You walked alongside our Emperor?"
Bjorn: "Walked, talked, ate, drank, pissed, everything. I think he quiet liked me."
After that, the inquisition and the grey knights went on their knees before him. :D
@@GodlordBazi the grey knights having just fought a daemon primarch
For some reason I can picture Bjorn giving Russ a backhander "for leaving me behind!" Before welcoming him back. And Russ would, of course, take it because I would imagine he'd fully understand.
This is an extremely beautiful and emotionally moving video, not just due to the subject matter, but also your delivery of it which is filled with the enthusiasm of a true fan. I can sense it in your words that you can see it all from Bjorn's eyes and heart.
Ave !
Leman Russ left to seek out a way to restore the Emperor. I hope he has a spare dose for Bjorn. He deserves it.
It would make quite a scene, bjornn meeting with russ after 10,000 years. It would be a nice story arch for bjornn as well and it would be a funny to see a dreadnought trying to kneel.
The most heartbreaking and best (if you ask me) story-development for both Bjorn and Leman Russ, would be for Bjorn to be there to hear or even witness Leman's return, but somehow die before they could reunite, with Leman being just exactly too late (unknowingly) to save Bjorn. This would be an extremely interesting character crucible for Leman to go through (again, if you ask me).
Bjorn waiting in his dreadnaught when Russ returns will be a great boon for the Wolf King.
26 years ago...
It is just mind blowing that after 3 decades Russ might return. I can’t even imagine what the old-school fans now feeling.
Aaaand, yeah, even all Space Viking stuff is just not my thing, but Bjorn... well, Space Viking or not, only the Primarchs could be more badass than him.
Lord Inquisitor Shadowlord Won’t argue on that 🧐
I would love to see Bjorn cross the Rubicon and be able to walk on his on legs agian, and to hold a bolter once more
Great one dude. My love of 40k and the lore that comes with it started with the 2nd edition I remember reading this at the time thank you for bringing that feeling back dude o7
Exelent episode mate. Always good to hear you discussing the characters you love most. Cheers
I'm a Deathwatch fan but your making me have to get a Space Wolf force on the table .....killer as always!
One more great battle for that old wolf Bjorn with his primarch by his side is needed
nice bit, always enjoy your content! Like the snow effects, really adds to the atmosphere
I may have a Dark Angels army but the wolves are legendary
Absolute nipple popping excitement!! Awesome video. I love how you read these amazing stories. Thank you for the fantastic entertainment
Dude you're so awesome thanks for these seriously it's really great 🤘😁🤘
Awesome, thank you for uploading. Cheers wolf
I know it's probably not possible but how nice it would be to give him his flesh back via the Rubicon. After all these centuries he needs a drink.
I'll raise a mug of beer to the Fell-Handed tonight!
It's Wolf Time! Russ returns!
There should be a scene where Bjorn meets Guilliman and Guilliman remember s the fell handed. Also agree that Bjorn should be there to welcome Russ' return
That picture of Bjorn is so fking good. Every time i see it i always sit around for several minutes, just looking at the details of both Bjorn and all the stuff in the background.
Two years too late, but I still have something to say.
Bjorn pains my heart alot, because I dread the day I hear him say words a recent Dreadnought said-
"I did not think I'd ever feel the chill of air, on my flesh again..."
And honestly. It'd only break my heart more, to see Bjorn finally reunite with Lemen Russ, the other wolves from the warp, and Bjorn meeting the Wolf King, dying at his feet.
Having held the line, payed the extra price, done his duty beyond death, and finally, got to see, the King of The Russ. As they share one last moment, but Bjorn gets to die, seeing what he always believed. His Primarch's return. To see the other wolves who weren't from their time, finally see, what Bjorn has spoke of- What Logan has spoken of.
I have been a Space Wolves player from the beginning of my time playing 40K. I still have the old metal Bjorn. The story for my Great Company, following the retcon in the whole Fall of Cadia stuff that there were 17 Great Companies deployed to the Battle of Cadia, is that the Wold Lord of it is leading a Great Hunt following the events of Warzone: Fenris...and that Bjorn insists on coming out to some of his battles, where they are in the tracks of places he and Lemann Russ had fought, his knowledge and wisdom being sought in these places because it is hoped that it will lead to clues tracking where the Primarch had gone. I deploy Bjorn always with a group of Wolf Guard Terminators with Company Emblems not from my great company, but from all the different ones that they made shoulderpads for. Why? Because those Wolf Guard are not the guard for the Wold Lord..they are the honour guard for the Bjorn himself. (Yes, Bjorn has all these weapon options on the newer plastic model...but I will always field him with the Assault Cannon and True Claw w/ Heavy Flamer. Nothing else seems right.)
There was a book where the Inquisition went to talk to the Space Wolves and as a tactic to get the upper hand they had Bjorn negotiate with them. Since he is considered an Imperial Relic the delegation from the Inquisition had to negotiate on their knees.
I wonder how a meeting between Bjorn and Guilliman would go? As for Bjorn being there during the Emperor’s internment, I can imagine several plausible scenarios. He could be on detached duty at the time and just happened to be there or plausibly, he’s with the vanguard of Space Wolves returning to Terra with Russ arriving later, after the internment. Lots of ideas to play around with there.
Great story telling skills, glad to have found your channel - cheers!
Well this is a pleasant thing to come home from work to
Love the snowy effect
I am not a Space Wolves player, but Rho is making me want a detachment of them and all the named characters....
Definitely all for a new model for Bjorn. But I'm with the guys saying that we'd like to see Bjorn get some Belisarius love and get a new chasis.
Love your stuff, I got an idea for a series as you know every major chapter has a process of joining and being selected I'd love to hear you explain the process.
There was a story, I believe Baldermort narrated it, about a SM was put into a sarcophagus after the whole chapter was lost. Years later a imperial guard general sent to the imperium to stand up this chapter. The Primarch read the letter eventually, the chapter was reconstituted with Primaris once they found the only living SM in the Deathwatch as a Dreadnaught. Apparently the Primaris Rubicon process was able to regrow his limbs and he was installed as Chapter Master. Maybe something like this could be gifted to Bjorn?
I fell for Bjorn with Dan Abnett's "Prospero Burns". How couldn't you love that guy, and for too pass into the annals of living history. . . I hope that there is a primaris future for him.
I think I purged my thumb i hit that notification so hard.
Dude your voice is just ........PERFECT for these stories
I would like to see Bjorn the fel titan as far as upgrades.
What needs to happen is a massive battle with the Wolfs forced onto the back foot vs Word Bearers and Thousand Sons. They are barely holding the line when a demon comes and damages the dread. Then a portal opens wolfen fall and a massive Rus stand amongst them with a rescued Issah and 2 fruits from the tree of life. He ripps open the sarcophagus and forces it into his old friends mouth saving him and repelling the assault. With maybe a rematch of the battle of giants.
Dude, you can make a take-out menu sound epic.
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Bjorn is the greatest of the Great Wolves as far as I'm concerned.
little tear here, so awsome to imagine the Primarch to meet The Fell Handed, amazing commentary, cheers Rho
He didn't just meet bjorn.. Bjorn was one of his wolfguard, the strongest fighting group in the space wolves trusted with protecting the primarch himself.. All chapters have an elite guard version like the blood angels have the sanguinary guard, the ultramarines have the axes of ultramar and the raven guard have the shadow wing..
@@lavatun Sorry I should't have said "meet", i should have said reunite...... tears, regardless
Beautiful
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I used to be a Space Wolf until they released the wulfen in 3rd edition. I painted my army black out of shame and went to the standard marine codex. Every good release for the wolves is so bitter sweet now.
Bjorn is a metal god! Ever wonder how Russ would feel meeting Bjorn again? Would he be happy to see his friend who should be long dead or would it upset him to see his youngest champion as a machine?!
Bjorn could have arrived to Terra as part of an advanced elements of the Legion. With Russ still leading the majority of the Legion in transit to Terra.
Bjorn will be there. His boon to not die til Russ entered is strong.
*FOR RUSS AND THE ALLFATHER!!*
I kinda hope that Russ is the next one to return so that we can see the interaction between him and Russ
Lol, he's not the only one around here who dreams of the wolf I suspect XD x
A trip down memory lane.
Isit just me or does wolf lord have one of those great narrative voices he seems to make these more interesting
One of the ancient venerable ones. Bjorn was there he knows he see, he mourn. Thats why he deserves the respect of all, not only the sons of Russ.
Brother Rho, your narration skills give me the chills!
You should rename yourself from Wolf Lord to Skald!!
Long live the sagas!!!
Bjorn the Fell-Handed is sleeping and dreams of russes return and wakes and prepares for his lords return
Bjorn is a true treasure and if Bjorn isn't there when Russ DOES return or see him shortly after then truly there is no justice in 40k.
Bjorn doesn’t need a Redemptor update. He needs a RUSS update! Then he will be so murderously pissed off, the Wulfen cower to his rage
The Wolf King has to come back. Gulliman is fine but by the All Father, we need our father back.
I wonder if Cawl could help bring him across the Rubicon. We know that Primaris can be entombed in Dreadnoughts, but what about bringing a shattered old marine to cross the Rubicon? I think it would phenomenal.
I cant understand why Guiliman has not come to see Bjorn yet. Or even at the very begining. He is the oldest living space marine in all of 40k besides the primarch himself. In fact i have have little doubt they havent met from back then. I actually started 40k in 2nd edition. I have this codex. Hell SpaceWolf was the first black library book i read.
Loved Bjorn interactions with Hyperion in "Emperor's Gift"
I'll riot with you !!
Across the field of battle where broken wolf brothers lay. The roar of the bolter like a song rising to the blood rent skies. There a Thousndsons legionnaire holds the severed arm of a longfang hunter. Bjorn levels his assault cannon rending the traitor in two. In the distance almost like a memory stirring a howl the likes that bjorn hasn't heard in an age one that the young ones have never heard. A gray hunter approaches the venerated dreadnought "My lord Bjorn what is that dreaded howl?" Bjorn made a sound that the space marine never heard before was that laughter, was the mighty Bjorn laughing the carapace turned towards the young space wolf. "That child is the call of our lord. Russ has come home! The sons of Magnus know its call well!"
This made me emotional fur sure
Bjorn is absolutely badass.
There are exactly three Sons of Russ [that I know of] who truly deserve to bear witness to the return of the Wolf King: Bjorn, Logan, and Ragnar.
I saw, I clicked, and I enjoyed my time here.
Finally got a Notification from you
What a great video! I love the enthusiasm and obviously Bjorn! Subscribed!
Can you create(/read) an audio book? Your voice is so soothing and calm, gives me a sense of relaxation and peace.