Falklands War - The Falklands Legacy With Max Hastings (BBC2 2012)
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- Thirty years after the Falklands War, journalist and military historian Max Hastings explores the conflict’s impact and its legacy over the past three decades.
Hastings, who sailed with the Task Force in 1982 and reported the Falklands campaign firsthand, looks at how victory in the South Atlantic revived the reputation of our armed forces; renewed Britain’s sense of pride and its image abroad after years of decline as an Imperial and military power.
Hastings examines how the Falklands provided a model of a swift and successful war that was matched by other conflicts Britain fought at the end of the 20th century. But it was a model that came to be shattered by the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns that have left the British public sceptical about sending our armed forces in large numbers to war again.
The Falklands could well be the last popular war Britain fights and certainly the country’s last Imperial Hurrah.
I was playing in a band in Norway, when the conflict started. We were four Englishmen and an Argentinian!!
The Norwegian press got wind of it and made bit of a thing out of it.
The day the war was over, we took the Argentinian out and we all got pissed out of our heads and we were all crying. It was pretty upsetting. Five friends, whose countries were at war.
We also cried for all of the people who were killed or maimed.
I had a similar situation with my Iraqi friend in 2003. A horrible feeling especially because as a retired British officer I knew the war was illegal and unnecessary. I've never felt so sad and frankly thoroughly ashamed.
The old England is Britain, Britain is England routine. GTF!
I was working at Siemens KWU in Germany at the time. There were also Argentinien Engineers in the building. German TV reported that together with General Hague Peru had a peace proposal for the UK. This was before the sinking of the Belgrano. I recently saw a video of Maggi refuting that there was any knowledge of this proposal until after she had ordered the ship sunk. Most people I know in the UK just do't want to believe this. It is all a matter of perception. I don't believe the war could have been averted and had the Argentiniens not left then it was justified. But she never gave peace a chance.
"The Flyers" - Kelvin, Steve, Alexander, Mike and Luis.
Many of the Argies were young farm boys, never knew one end of a rifle from the other, sent out to get slaughtered I spoke to squaddies who only shot to wound them, they were happy to surrender.
The case for the UK defending The Falklands is perhaps one of the more clear cut decisions a nation has made when regarding military intervention. Reagans govt was concerned about maintaining friendship with Argentina and the UK, so he didn't comment on the overwhelming disgust The Falklanders had at being occupied by Argentina. From what I have read recently The Falklands today are very keen to remain as they are. Both armed forces suffered a lot in that conflict and the outcome should be respected .
Agree with every word of that. There would be much I didn't like about Mrs T, but she got this right from start to finish as did our fighting force. Well done both.
pat squires
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the falklands war made britain great again it stood up to international bullys, the argies like the nazis thought they could beat this country into submission, its intresting to see that tony blair was against a true and just war against the dirty stinking argies, a war that was supported by international law, but was happy to fight an ILLEGAL
America was concerned about damaging its relationship with all of South America -- not just Argentina. This is exactly what happened when America provided Britain with the support it needed to win the war. Most of Latin America saw Britain's retaking its colony as a European power (once again) invading a Latin American country.
For the record, that is _not_ my view. I'm a big believer in self-determination and, as you mentioned, the Falklanders were unified in wanting to remain part of Britain.
But it is understandable that America didn't want to see two of its friends at war. Especially since America's support of Britain in the Falkland War basically destroyed the _Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance_ -- which is basically the Western Hemisphere's NATO.
Also, what isn't talked about much anymore, is that before the Falklands War, Britain was trying to get rid of that colony. As the video mentions, those are the most expensively defended people in the world. The colony was too small to be economically viable and Britain had withdrawn most of its troops from the islands. That is why Argentina was able to so easily occupy the islands.
Los Benny's deberian habernos recibidos con flores ,cuando desidimos botar nuestros blindados anfibios e ir a visitar ...despues de años de ostracismo ingles que ni documentos de identidad tenian
@@Courage2006 I think everything you say here is reasonable. The re-taking and subsequent defence of The Falklanders is perhaps a moral duty. Nowadays I read that the Islands are thriving and have an even greater appreciation of remaining under UK protection. Many regions of the world are under protection at a big net cost but that does not justify these places being 'picked off' by unwelcome states? On the whole I find it hard to understand why Argentina and The UK would need to clash horns ever again. I'm in support of the UK defending The Falklands but think it is terrible that they had to do it. The cost to lives on both sides should not have happened in the first place.
Hastings is a true gentleman. Most people now would never appreciate such a compliment, but no doubt he would
I take it you see yourself as one of the few who would. Others might see you differently.
@@alexanderhendry5819 That's not what I said, nor is it what I implied. You of course aren't interested in any of that.
@@alexanderhendry5819 No sir, it is not, and not by a long way: your inability to admit you're wrong notwithstanding. Now go away you silly person.
A throughly well put together documentary,
Christ, Blair looked a sleaze even back in 1982
I remember watching Blair for the first time in coverage of the Labour Party conference the year John Smith died. I remember thinking to my self this Pratt with the shit eating grin is a total wrongun
@@paulkeogh3518 Tony B Liar? Tory in all but name,and as a result the UK Labour party is dead in the water
The dark lord
Wouldn't let him look after your kids would you.....
Suez..... there is no special relationship. the " special relationship" only exists when we have a common goal.
absolutely right
Also, it was America who provided political and financial patronage to the IRA - killing thousands of British civilians and soldiers.
@@pedronewball1116 She was a right old battleax
@@raymondhaskin9449 you’re a bit short on details, who exactly are you talking about?
The special relationship exists when a) America wants something or b) deems it better overall to help Britain rather than the other side. This has been happening since the 1700's. Otherwise, it does what helps itself, which to be fair, is what everyone else does.
Excellent
I was in Argentina at the time. The Argies never made me feel like the enemy and I never felt them to be my enemy. We are all one.
It's a terrible shame the Junta used the schools to ingrain it as a futile national issue; imagine the new 'libertarian' government recognizing the Falklanders' right to self-determination, normalizing relations, and having prosperous bilateral trade! It would be greatly to Argentina's long-term interest, but...
The Falklands is a moment in recent history which reminded the world that you do not mess with the British.
We need to increase defence budget to at least 6-10% GDP.
I know how to fund it, Give my right to a rifle!
For what you got nato , to defend yours island unless you intent to get Hong Kong back which will make things rather interesting .
A very interesting perspective. Well worth watching thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice, Love Falkland. I live South Chile.
Thank u
The first bit of this is incorrect. It was on a much smaller scale, but military action in Sierra Leone, to stop gangsters overthrowing the government, was also taken by the British on its own.
I like that they call it a war
pat squires
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the falklands war made britain great again it stood up to international bullys, the argies like the nazis thought they could beat this country into submission, its intresting to see that tony blair was against a true and just war against the dirty stinking argies, a war that was supported by international law, but was happy to fight an ILLEGAL
Britain's inability to get American support in the Falklands (when it was well deserved) was the result of what has been an ongoing rift in domestic American foreign policy within the Republican party and in which, in this case, the morally bankrupt position prevailed. During these years of the Reagan administration you could be ANYTHING as long as you would fight "communism" (which was usually actually a cover for American companies maintaining control of a foreign country's resources) This was a shameful period in American foreign policy as we routinely supported dictators suppressing people who would democratically choose a different government. Thus, America waivered in supporting a democratic country fighting for a people's freedom against a clearly fascist dictator imposing his will over an undesiring populace, who considered themselves to be British above all else.
Britain should never have pursued military action of the this kind in the first place. It was militarily unnecessary. It was purely a political move by an ailing government, much the same as the government that actually invaded the Falklands. Shameful loss of life, much like the 2003 invasion of Iraq. I say this as a retired career soldier, proud of my service, but like ery many other colleagues ashamed of these wrongful politically motivated acts.
@@gunner678 Thatcher and Blair: two very distasteful people, politically and personally.
@@trackdusty yes I agree. To my shame, I voted for Thatcher once, but only once. I was serving in HM forces at the time of the Falklands and initially I felt the same euphoria over the victory. However, over time I realised it was utterly unecessary and political. All those dead for party politics. I was in junior staff college when we studied the Falklands action of the Callaghan government, which was far more effective and preventative. I was waiting for retirement in 2003, but many of my contemporaries were commanding troops in the 2003 invasion of Iraq; reluctantly for the same reasons, but also because it a as done on the cheap, at a huge cost of life.
A prime example of what you mention Duane is the U.S. in Chile. ANYTHING - even a murderous dictator and his thuggish lackeys - rather than the 'Socialist' Allende.
@@gunner678 i disagree any attack must be defended against the Falkland's island was part of Britain just the same as Gibraltar. what would have been next ? also think of the position of the Falkland not to mention the oil >
I have just watched a very saddening memorial to all the British soldiers, sailors and airmen who died during the Falklands conflict, on the CZcams UKMC channel. Needless to say, it was extremely moving to see the photos, names and ages of those brave men who went to war when their country called them, and paid the ultimate, tragic price for their courage. Seeing the young faces of 17, 18, 19 and 20 year olds who never got older than then was upsetting and brought tears to my eyes, and of course for all of them, regardless of age. May God bless them all and may they all rest in peace for all eternity. Finally, my heart goes out to their families and friends and their comrades in the armed forces.
We knew the Argies would invade, sooner or later, My Dad was rushed down to the south atlantic on HMS Olwen with his Squadron in 1977 because of argentine activities in the area, he later went down on Lusty to replace Invincible, he told me, big difference between the argies and our pilots, our pilots don't fly over the penguin colonies, as the penguins look up and fall over backwards, argies couldn't give a toss about such things. A good documentary with Max Hastings, but surprised he left this element out of the story?
An old friend of mine who was an RAF pilot at the time told me that the thing about the penguins was a myth however, to be on the safe side, pilots always crossed their beaches diagonally.
@@andypandy9013 Absolutely not true. They flew over the penguins upside down so that they could see the planes were not Argentinian.
@@gordonbennet1094
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Max Hastings one of the few independent non partisan voices left in Britain
@@jackoates6418 explain? I’m curious!
31:50.....'the safe Commons seat of Sedgefield' haha!
Just finished a copy of the 5th Infantry Brigade on the Falklands! Not a story of glory and honour - under-used and not particularly well led, and of course, the Welsh Guards disaster! Max gets mentioned quite a few times in it! Worth a read if you can find a copy in your local library!
I have not read it but apparently the Welsh guards was unavoidable disaster. A marine landing officer told their commander to get his men off the ship and he refused because the officers landing craft was carrying ammunition. The fact that the Sir Galahad was stuffed with fuel and ammunition didn't seem to occur to him.
Not sure how many were cheering at the Belgrano's sinking: the Sun's infamous _GOTCHA_ headline was roundly condemned, and I can say with complete confidence that the reality of being cast into a frigid ocean allayed any triumphalism in the Royal Navy.
Round 2 on its way
07:50 Ironically, MacMillan and Kennedy were distantly related by marriage. MacMillan's wife was an aunt of Kathleen Kennedy's husband The Marquess of Hartington.
Yup Ormesbey Gore I think was his name. It's the reason, some say, that Kennedy gave us the Polaris nuclear missile.
There's a lot that's been declassified since this documentary was made
Avro sent with nuclear payload
And the huge risk we faced from the French Exocet missile...
and the loss of four harriers - one I believe ran out of fuel guarding a sinking ship
And SAS D-squad mission
Which D-Squad mission?
Avro sent with nuclear payload??? Really??? That’s a bit archaic and unreliable is it not? What was wrong with Polaris? That’s like saying they had cavalry in horses.
Might be confusing it with a report that some warships had nuclear death charges they didn't have a chance to unload before they sailed. A rumour that was why the Sheffield was sunk in deep water because she still had hers aboard@@likeitout
They never filmed the badly wounded getting carried off, which were many. This was all done in the quiet.
they never show wounded or dead soldiers on tv untill the familys have been informed, there is a news blackout in all conflicts so mothers dont find out their sons are hurt or dead on the news. You need to do some research before you make stupid comments
@TheShad0w It was a war that could and should have been avoided if Thatcher had sent them the right message, she never .
@TheShad0w I knew a young man who was badly wounded, went through a rough time healing, then when home and killed himself, he was a medic. Simply seen too much. I am no troll.
@TheShad0w I spoke to a person whose job was to take note of all the injuries incurred, in the conflict, they were horrendous, you don't know half of it.
Completely untrue.
Every new Prime Minister appear to love a war, well in future put them in the front line.
In the discussion of the Beaconsfield by-election, the Labour woman's description of the sinking of the belgrano as "very sad" says everything you need to know!
It _was_ very sad that hundreds of men lost their lives. You wouldn't find much disagreement with that in the Royal Navy at the time.
If we didn't fight this.... or to a lesser extent if we did and lost.. then our international standing would have been mud..
Unfortunately doesn’t feature the Vulcan flight all the way down the north and south Atlantic constantly aerially refueled by other V force fuel tankers to bomb the Stanley airfield. It was literally touch and go - just enough to hit the target then about gave and return to the UK by the same gruelling refuelling route
Britains New Carrier fleet is now Meeting up with the American 1st Fleet in the South China sea to counter Chinese Activity there and there is a good chance it could go South.
pat squires
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the falklands war made britain great again it stood up to international bullys, the argies like the nazis thought they could beat this country into submission, its intresting to see that tony blair was against a true and just war against the dirty stinking argies, a war that was supported by international law, but was happy to fight an ILLEGA
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As ever, i’m not wholly convinced of the thrust of Max’s argument here. Britain and the United States both lost in Afghanistan and Iraq. Regardless of whether Britain had Post-Falklands hubris or not, military might, tactical superiority and our standing in the world counted for nothing either for a superpower or a post imperial state like Britain
This comment is as clear as mud. What did you hope to convey with, for instance, this utterly muddled part of your remark: "Regardless of whether Britain had Post-Falklands hubris or not, military might, tactical superiority and our standing in the world counted for nothing either for a superpower or a post imperial state like Britain"?
I suggest that you had to live through it truly to understand that while it was quite important for the country at the time, it was much more significant for the entire world. International rule of law, enshrined in treaty - which had fallen out of fashion as a political priority thanks to the morally hazy activities necessitated by Cold War fears - had been heinously, casually and brutally violated. Something had to be done to reaffirm that law, or the result would have been a short slide into chaos.
The Falklands might have a been a small confrontation in historical terms, but the Soviet Union were impressed by the performance of the British armed forces causing them to re-evaluate their entire posture in Europe, and the Americans were reminded of precisely what it was they had accepted as their responsibility after WWII: "leaders of the free world".
So it is what it has always been: a pathetic, poorly formed (leftist) myth that this conflict had anything whatsoever to do with British "post-colonial" umbrage, or "hubris".
All on its own. with American
Max Hastings would never get a job in the media these days.
@MichaelKingsfordGray says who?
His latest article for The Times, "Pet owners falling prey to relentless extortionists", was literally published only two days ago. His latest article for the Bloomberg, "Instructions for Surviving the Age of Excess", was published 12 days ago.
You might have issues with regard to perception of reality. Have you tried to remedy that, recently?
39:44 this soundbite sums up the not exactly enthusiastic support by our largest ally, so much for the "Special Relationship,"
this is old and the special relationship did not exist quite the opposite. it was for show. reagan could not deal with her . our greatest ally was kasper Weinberger. he said at a table with Jeane J. Kirkpatrick this is the motherland we can only help 1 and thought back all her objections . he was also given the highest honor by the queen for a foreigner Knight Grand Cross, only 2 ever to have been given out.
@@topbanana4013 that doesn't explain Reagan’s word though, where he said:
"(...) it's a very difficult situation for the United States because we're friends, with both of the countries engaged in this dispute,"
Nor his call with Thatcher on Memorial Day where he urged her to accept a Diplomatic Compromise over the islands, rather than inflict defeat on Argentina
But war was only necessary for the politicians??
Some british commanders claim that they almost lost the war. The argentine aviation attack was too much.
An amazing documentary, can anyone help what was the music when the admiral travelled to Cornwall and meed the defence minister
Falklands is place, not a political tool
yes teaching that in schools is like teaching terrorism
“on the path of our decline?“ Is Britain in decline? Why so?
John Nott.
Here today, gone tomorrow.
Point proved.
argie air force had 200 planes brits air force 30 fact 1 in 5 argie pilots killed 50% losses and we still won.8000 miles from uk no proper air cover
War is politics by another name.
We now have Ukraine and this can be a group defence for Europe..
The junta Argentina was the aggressor.
Yep exactly. And although there is still many Argentinians that will debate the sovereignty of the island, the one thing the war and defeat did in favour of Argentina was to rid them of the junta.
Agree. There is a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here. BTW, I agree with the documentary on Afghanistan.
Max Hastings got it wrong in the end about British defence today we got the largest aircraft carrier on its way to the far East today far superior forces then what we had in 1982. but time prove Max Hastings completely wrong
100%
1982 British Armed Forces, 327,600, 2021 approximately 159,000, technology is definately superior, the Royal Navy had 115 vessels in 1982 compared to 75 in 2021, again technically improved. However, I think Hastings is referring to the fact that there is no longer the big fleet mindset or appetite for it, as well as the fact the governments of the UK since 1982 have asked or expected the armed forces to do more with less, rely too much on technology in operations where asymmetrical warfare practiced by nationals in Afghanistan and Iraq showed that to be a false sense of security and easily defeated, especially in FIBUA operations. The Falklands were most assuredly the last example of "conventional" combat, i.e. enemy v home team using conventional weapons and tactics, with supply and logistics dictating methods and the tempo of operations, where no blurring of the lines between adversaries and the civilian population took place, (the civilians all stayed inside and out of harms way and were not engaged in reprisal attacks on either group of combatants). The 2 carriers and recently commissioned subs represent only a fraction of what the RN would like to have on hand and if the price of those vessels was amortised over the last 30 years, in real terms the spending would be quite small as a % of annual allocations, if defence is so important then the politicians need to spend in real terms a higher amount, otherwise they again, short change the armed forces and expect them to do more with less.
All those dead men to save Thatchers career
What is the only moral reason why a man should pick up a gun to fight?
Worth it. She was a great prime minister.
"All those dead men to save" the Falklanders from the oppression by a murderous Junta. There. Fixed it for you.
@@greggrimer354 Sure. That's why all the cheers of "Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead" when the Grim Reaper finally relieved us all of her.
goto 53:35 Wow...did'nt even know about Trafalgar
We’re being sold out from the inside out.........
Blair the destroyer of Iraq and Britain.
Seara Leon's civil war was brought to an end due to Tony Blair's willingness to act. And it took very few assets to achieve. I agree with the criticism about Afghanistan but not Iraq. Iraq was unfinished business. Slightly left leaning documentary. I'm a liberal AND an ex-soldier.
The only fault with the invasion of Iraq, was that it was a bit late. Years before, Saddam gassed over 100,000 Kurds.
In
Bbcyet again in those days out of touch with the citezens
If the Falkland Islands are deemed to belong to Argentina based on locality, then there is going to have to be a readjustment of the status of not only hundreds of islands but enclaves globally, and we all know that wars would ensue. An obvious example is Spain's claim on Gibraltar which as Argentina, Spain brings up to divert attention from the government when needed, though Spain itself has both islands and an enclave just over the straights in the North of Africa.
From the great Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman Empires there was an age of conquest that came to an end with the British Empire, and from those days we have been left with what we have been left with and I think it would be unwise to alter that status-quo by force but only by consent, as we Brits have _'mostly'_ accomplished by handing over sovereignty to the native population when requested.
The Falkland Islands are deemed to belong to Argentina based on locality only by Argentina. The Falklanders wanted to be British and according to the 2013 referendum still do down to the last man, woman and sheep. But then, who would want to be part of a country where they throw rocks at people over a license plate?
Ni fue una invasión ni fue un picnic 😉
Britain is a pawn of a America and was allowed to fight this war.
When Britain tried to carry out real independent action in Suez and Ulster, the Americans came in hard on the side of Britain’s enemies and forced the British into retreat. Sad.
Once you understand that Northern Ireland was founded on undemocratic principles, you’ll understand what’s really going on.
The so-called ‘Ulster’ unionists didn’t want the whole of Ulster in their one party Protestant colony, as it would be too Catholic, they considered 4 counties to be too small, and so despite an Irish nationalist majority in 2 counties, settled on 6.
The UVF was founded on the same undemocratic principles, it was specifically founded to violently resist the democratic will of Westminster, the average Englishman today is uninterested in Northern Ireland being part of their union, and no small number weren’t even aware it existed until Brexit.
Indeed, they’re willing to give up Scotland to achieve Brexit.
The demographics are changing and a united Ireland is only a question of time.
The irony of all the crying from the so-called ‘Ulster’ Unionists about the injustices of war, is it’s the Unionists of the six counties who are going to be the biggest threat to, prosperity, peace and democracy when the time comes, again.
How’s Brexit going?
@@ClannCholmain brexit is going ok...bit rocky over Northern Ireland of course.chances are that the EU will be looking after that patch soon. Happy Days...
We fight our own wars my freind, we didn’t need the yanks in the falklands, just like the Second World War when the yanks were 3 years late in that war, same as the First World War, late for that as well.
Max Hastings for PM.
Typically labour
What the Falklands conflict proved to British politicians is that all you need to get re-elected is to have a successful war, with not too many casualties, just before an election and you'll win that election. The Thatcher administration in the early 80s was the most unpopular on record and the Tories were heading for electoral Armageddon. Then came the Falklands war and an electoral landslide for them. John Major did the same thing after the first Gulf war and then Tony Blair did the same thing after the second Gulf War, even though he took the country into that war on the basis of an untruth (the guff we were told about Saddam Hussein's 'weapons of mass destruction). His administration still got re-elected. None of this says much for us as a nation, does it?
We were on our own against the Irish.
and they were supported by the U.S
@@MyScubasteve how so?
Were you the victims?
@@ClannCholmain if you have to ask you are very naive!
@@polaris7122 I know, I just don’t think he does.
Bet you the lefty woke brigade hate this video
Hahaha
The "woke brigade" may very well but left-wingers (like myself) shouldn't have any sympathy for Argentina considering it was right-wing military dictatorship.
Argentina was under a right wing Military Dictatorship that time
I can bet you dont know history very well
They hate everything, including themselves
Bloody costly in British blood and treasure to keep a dwindling insular sheep flock British - both an insular Little England and actual ovine Falklanders
Hiiiiiiiiiii
HASTINGS ON HISTORY LOL
Try reading some of his books. He is an historian first and a journalist second.
It really annoys me that in narration ‘marines’ are always mentioned before ‘the paras’. The red beret is one of much more skilful experience. So many paras died in the Falklands; maybe that’s why. Britain doesn’t want to hear about them. When they march they are always last when they are the best. The high level of training, some as young as 17 years old. RIP 3 Para Falklands
Blair is a tarator, should be hug for teasion
Mejor que sea inglaterra y no este pais villero
the millitary doesnt need to be scrapped but politicians ability to use it should be severely restricted to self defense only.
I, of course, under stand the politics of the Falklands War, but other than that what hell was the value attached to those islands. Thatcher has been called the Iron Lady. Well most of the Iron seemed to start with her hair.
The value attached to those island are the British people who live on them.
When her and Skargill went heat to head it was iron hair vs. Brillo wig.
@@raymondhaskin9449 Although, they weren't British citizens at the time. In 1982, the Falkland Islands was a colony that the British were trying to get rid of.
@@Courage2006
I didn’t say anything about citizenship.
The Falkland islanders are British people. Part of the same nation that inhabits the United Kingdom. So that gives the islands value in my view.
You may consider them to be "British people" -- but that is not how they view themselves. Even today, the majority of the people living in the Falkland Islands do _not_ consider their nationality to be British.
My point was that Britain didn't value those "British" people before Argentina invaded.
This is evidenced both by Britain not giving them citizenship and that Britain was trying to get rid of the colony.
That said, 99.8% of the residents wish for the Falkland Islands to remain a dependency of the UK. And I believe their wishes are the most important issue.
and very stupid allowing transport ship to be bombed by argentinian aircraft
We celebrate our great victory - Dry those tears you Argies:
Mrs Thatcher was somehow influenced by the panda huggers of that time and thus underestimated the consequence of giving Hongkong to a communist tyranny.
Hong Kong was at the end of a 99 year lease. It had to be handed back.
@@Aindriuhsadly correct.
Hong Kong was not "given" to the Chinese.
Ask the Americans how they would react to Hawaii being occupied by a foreign power.
Err, u do realize the reason US entered WW2 because Hawaii was attacked,right?
@@dchegu QAttacked yes, occupied no.
@@MegaBoilermaker so if US entered WW2 when Hawaii was only attacked, do u expect a different response if it was then occupied after being attacked?
@@dchegu I cannot answer for the US response for the attack on Hawaii aii but we treated the OCCUPATION of the Falklands as an occupation of any other part of UK territory.
Hawaii is a US state occupied by US citizens. In contrast, the Falkland Islands was a British colony and the residents were not British citizens. Plus, the UK had be trying to get rid of the Falkland Islands -- its population was too small to be economically viable. And its defense was an expense Britain did not want to bear -- so much so that Britain had withdrawn most of its forces. Also, all of its supplies were provided from Argentina -- not Britain.
I'm not defending Argentina. What they did was wrong and stupid. But the Falkland Islands is nothing like Hawaii.
China.....!!!
blair " britain confident of its place in the world" goes on to hand hong kong back to china without fighting the brutal conditions its people were going to recieve.
Hong Kong was on a 99 year lease that came to its end. There was no choice but to hand it back to China.
@@Aindriuh I'm aware of that, but there was an agreement in place for Hong Kong to largely govern itself. Something that is being stripped away from them piece by piece by the Chinese government. I may be wrong but I think it was plainly called "the Hong Kong agreement". If you want to look it up.
@@Miguel-hw8hj I remember it. It doesn't change the fact that Hong Kong had to be returned. It was distasteful but the British hands were tied.
@@Aindriuh Why are we not discussing why and how Hong Kong was colonized in the first place?
The opium war? The "most unfair treaty in history"?
Are we going to brush that aside?
@@leoarc1061 I really don't care. I live in the present not the past.
God bless the Brits - an American
I've read a number of his bestsellers and his interminable articles over the years, so I feel I'm reasonably qualified to conclude that Max Hastings is a seriously overrated sort of underqualified pop-historian journalist who adores the sound of his own voice. I used to when I was young and impressionable. I certainly do not now.
Clinton America's worst!
The BBC sucks ! 'Let's OVER Analyze an amazing British victory'.
truth hurts you
a HEADY CONCLUSION to an embarrassing and muddy scrum down south... imho. I like this docu for the angle it assumes and the points it makes. in retrospect perhaps the conclusion isn’t entirely “heady” but ironic: “rule britannia”! This viewpoint is (as I write) a decade old. Two brand spanking NEW aircraft carriers and a new class of deep sea dreadnought submarines have entered service ready to steer Brexit Blighty resolutely onwards.
Is that the right word; Onwards? Indeed, if it is; what of it's value as world tactic? Changing course during struggles IS essential to survival, if not to completing your bombing run. 2020 heralds not the British empire reborn, but it does see the nascence of the British Echelon; an Anglo Australian (American) Axis rising.
Europe has been offended, excluded and marginalised. England is again at odds with the manufacturer of Exocet. Alors, non! non rien n'a changé...
“Children, remain calm. The Falkland Islands have just been invaded. I repeat, the Falkland Islands have just been invaded!
The disputed islands lie here, off the coast of Argentina…”
I’ll always be disappointed that the USA wouldn’t strongly support the UK publicly in this conflict.
The US violated its own Monroe Doctrine by siding with European colonialism in 1982.
BRIGHTON BOMBING NEVER FORGET THE DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THE IRA NEVER GOT HER....TAL
no doubt had you lived in the forties you would have cheerded on the nazis, you ignorance is beyond belief
The hilarious irony being that, over the years, the poor and destitute Irish left Ireland and emigrated to many countries including the UK (Like my forefathers did in the mid 1800s). Only the privileged, wealthy and well-connected Irish were able to remain and survive in ireland.
@@patsquires3654 Not anti-English far from it. , but Thatcher could have ended the troubles in the North . But her anti Irish attitude always got in the way.
@@petermorris3665 The poor destitute were like that due to British rule in Ireland .Most Irish lived in mud hovels in the countryside or like my family in the city slums. Dublin had the worst slums in Europe.
David Gallagher True it took the POLL TAX 8 years later to seal her fate mores the pity there.
It was sad for people who were wounded or how lost someone, but it was a very small war. More soldiers are killed every day in Ukraine than died in the whole Falklands war. There is a good chance that NATO will turn the war in Ukraine into WW III and get five billion people killed. The Falklands war did not carry that risk. Was like a sports event for people who weren't there.
Anything about war especially involving Britain - read Hastings, Beevor and MacMillan. That’s all you need
Absolutely heartbreaking this documentary a nation failing before our eyes.
when politicians had great conviction ! what a world it used to be !!! amazing time in UK..( but for the dam poll tax, and recession)...
What a load of rubbish
All on its own, with America
Where were the US troops and ships?
@@EvenWaysMusic nowhere. But plenty of us supplied hardware fighting with the argies
And Chile and to some extent even France.
@@EvenWaysMusic
Please see the part from 42:20 with latest weapons and logistics
@@EvenWaysMusic satellite imaging. Sidewinder missiles. Not sure you know much about it obviously.
Give the island back. Argentina has been supplying the inhabitants for years and it costs the UK a fortune.
Give it back? The Argentinians are European colonisers just as the Falkland islanders. It's not Argentinas to give back too, though in time, they will probably end up with these useless fckn wind swept shitey islands. GTF!
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the falklands war made britain great again it stood up to international bullys, the argies like the nazis thought they could beat this country into submission, its intresting to see that tony blair was against a true and just war against the dirty stinking argies, a war that was supported by international law, but was happy to fight an ILLEGAL
why not go and live in argentina
@@KeithWilliamMacHendry Have you ever looked at a map?
Well... I did. The Falkland Islands are quite far away from England and quite close to Argentina.
75 years ago, you would be arguing against Indian independence.
Learn some history. Get your views up to date.
Give back? Argentina has never owned them
SO, BRITAIN, can you at least tell us how many percent of taxes can you collect from the Falklands in return for the cost of Administering and protecting it??
the Falkland Islanders are British subjects and as such pay the same taxes as those living in the uk. the cost of administering the islands is met by all british taxpayers
I am happy to pay for their defence. I don't want anyone forced to be an Argy with their corruption and ever failing economy.
@@greggrimer354 Just how many percent of Falklanders were originally argentinians who became british citizens??
@@OzzieWozzieOriginalZero, because when the Falkland Island was colonised and settled by Britain, Argentina did not exist as a legal entity.
@@greggrimer354 So the existing natives on the Island automatically granted UK citizenship??
We should've maintained a 5% defence budget every year since the end of the Cold War
Blair in this is absurd, our veterans are on the street, homeless, his vision for the UK includes everyone except the indigenous population. SLAVA UKRAINE NO SURRENDER.
This war was awful. I had two sons and they both were on opposing sides of the war.
They both killed one another. It was sad.
Clown
A excellent documentary on a colonial dying power that basically fleeced many countries , but of course politely with the English best manners .The UK was amazing time to move on
pat squires
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the falklands war made britain great again it stood up to international bullys, the argies like the nazis thought they could beat this country into submission, its intresting to see that tony blair was against a true and just war against the dirty stinking argies, a war that was supported by international law, but was happy to fight an ILLEGAL
How can Britain have territory so far away
How does the U.S. have Guam, Saipan and Tinian?
@@butchoharechicago6657 I don’t know maybe the same way they got nearly half of Mexico, military aggression. Same like the British got their empire military aggression.
+@@reginaldmcnab3265 Who told Mexico to declare war on us?
@@butchoharechicago6657 I do t know maybe it’s the rule of the jungle! Which might explain why the US invade Iraq looking for fictional weapons of mass destruction.
Did the US find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or is it still looking?
I was in school when this happened. I knew we were guna win because we're Britain.
I think you’re wrong there mr Hastings. The most expensive place we are defending is Germany through NATO.
The Belgrano was outside the Exclusion Zone sailing away, so why was she torpedoed?
I remember what a ITV Anglia TV "Survival" Series documentary on South Georgia and The Falklands months before the invasion. They had stickers on the windows in a pub in Port Stanley saying " Keep The Falklands British". This is because the Nationality Act would have excluded Falklanders to the right to British citizenship. John Nott Defence Secretary was going to scrap HMS Endurance the Ice Patrol ship which serviced the Falklands Stores and would ferry a Platoon of Royal Marines there, General Galtieri saw this an excuse for invasion.
Funny enough that documentary has never been aired since.
Margaret Thatcher was hailed as a hero and was re elected after she was polled as the most unpopular Prime Minister ever.
A wave of jingoism captured Britain The Sun's caption after the sinking of The Belgrano "Gotcha".
So £1million saving HMS Endurance ending up costing a million for each Falklander.
Heroic sacrifice by so many on both sides!
So was it really worth it? You decide.
Because it could have quite easily turned round and gone back into the Exclusion Zone. If you can't defend
your own territory from invasion by a military junta you will never defend anything, and it would have sent out a terrible message to the rest of the world. The left wing of the Labour Party and politics in general, like using violence to create a better world which is why they supported the IRA but were very vocal against military action in the Falklands. Just sums them up.
@@gunternetzer9621 Absolute rubbish you should say that to all the mothers that lost their sons on the Belgrano! Thatcher was happy for others to die but what did she do during the WW2? She was a student at Oxford. Even the late Queen did her part in the war effort.