New KTM 1290 Super Duke R Review - First Ride
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- New KTM 1290 Super Duke R Review - First Ride: Back in the summer, when the skies were blue and it seemed like COVID was nearly beaten, I was lucky enough to borrow the new-for-2020 KTM 1290 SuperDuke R for an extended period. Over the next few days I'll bring you all I learned, but for this video, here's my first impressions of the bike and a reminder what riding in the summer is like!
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"I was keen to bring you my 1st impressions review"
So I left it 5 months! 🤣
Dedication aha
Good point Nick!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I'm glad to be having content to watch in the winter :)
@@windyrun7979 He's gonna need plenty of footage in the can, although riding/driving to work is allowed under the lockdown, and riding bikes is his job
I’ve got 4000 miles on mine now and would say: don’t rev so high, you’ll ride out the torque. Also, it’s not so tame one you get out of Street mode and give it the beans, then it’ll roll your eyes back. But I’m loving mine, and the dealer has been nothing but helpful with no problems.
Yet another bike I would love to own, she's a beauty, and look forward to the Streetfighter reviews. Cheers TMF.
Cheers Dave.....
I own a V4S Streetfighter and got to borrow a 2020 Super Duke for a week so rode them back to back often. They are very similar bikes in many ways but I now wish I had bought the KTM. The Ducati is the “better” motorcycle when you ride them hard - it simply goes faster, turns better, stops better and arguably looks better. The V4’s “wings” make if vastly more stable at speed - if you long for the track you want the Duc. But as a daily driver the Super Duke just has the better engine - it gives you delicious power instantly and everywhere. The V4S, retuned though it is, remains a very “top of the rev range” sport bike engine. This translates to the Super Duke feeling like a super bike even when at in town speeds. The V4S on the other hand remains very “civilized” until you get it north of 9000 rpm, and by then you’re already punching above 100 mph. KTM also gives you practical features like cruise control and a gas gauge, making it easier to live with. I know KTM reliability is often questioned, but my V4S has spent 7 weeks in service during the first 6 months of ownership due to clutch problems. If I could go back I’d save myself 5 grand and have the better road bike. But then that’s me.
Love your reviews and can’t wait to hear what you think comparing the two.
Ride safe y’all.
...you'll defo be interested in my conclusions then Scott - stay tuned!
I still own a mk1 superduke 990 that I bought in 2005, after getting the ecu remapped @ BSD and suspension rebuilt @ MCT I will never sell it. It still looks like a new bike and has taken me all over the U.K. and Europe
Nice one Nick!
Thanks TMF, I never bore of seeing quality reviews on this bike. I soooo need one. As this was recorded back in the summer can we expect the next in the series fairly quickly😄? Keep up the good work and Happy New Year to you👍🏍🏍🏍🏍
Yep - next Monday is the next scheduled one on this bike...
Great stuff Andy. You always put the effort in, and that includes your responses to comments, the same as the rest of the features of your reviews 👍
That's very kind of you Mark, thank you....(so glad you noticed, I've been answering comments most of the day!!!)
@@TheMissendenFlyer You are very welcome Andy, I’m just saying it the way I see it 👍
I love the way the speed display becomes blurred at certain speeds Andy !!!
177 BHP on something that has the weight of a flea... astonishing! I live off the A413 myself and that is a great road to ride after the rush hour.
After you left Buckingham heading to Winslow you went past the old derelict Folly Pub. This used to be a great mid week bike meet up 20 years ago. Was always packed out from 7pm with complimentary snacks..
Another fun video, thanks. It’s so great that we have such a variety of bikes to chose from. I have absolutely no use for a bike like this one, but I know lots of riders do.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Not only does the speedo have night mode the readout out disappears when you go quickly so it's not a dangerous distraction at speed. Brilliant.
That bike looks stunning. I love everything KTM is doing at the moment. Currently in the market for a 790 Duke, partly thanks to your reviews!
Nice one!
I have one and LOVE it!! RT parked for now
Great review, and Happy New Year! Hoping to get my reviews edited (half) as nicely as yours in 2021! Cheers!
You’re too kind sir!
Love that comment about ‘as cool as a bald 50 year old can look on a bike’ - used to commute on a GSXR750... always wondered if they realised I was listening to Radio 4 🤔 😂😂😂
London traffic? A healthy Maico 440 & Mozart's overture to the Marriage of Figaro; even Wolfie wrote 'cannot be played too fast nor too loud', eg. a Yank orch : )
A flyer video. It must be about bedtime 😄. Hopefully 2021 will be better than the last disaster we went through. Cheers sir🥃
Cheers Chad - it’s breakfast time here!
Good first look TMF. Happy New Year.
Same to you!
Happy new year. I am glad you keep stuff back to continue entertaining the troops through lockdown. A very nice bike but I still fancy the 390 or whatever the new version is
Cheers TMF a great first impression review it looks lovely
Cheers Ian - happy New Year to you too.....
I think one of my dream bikes. Nice first impressions.
Thank you OG!
Last but not least ... I’m talking about TMF reviewing this bike. A good way to wrap up all we’ve had so far. Thank you, enticing machine but it just doesn’t tick the boxes as an everyday bike for me, including commuting. Ride safe and best wishes for 2021!
Actually it would be great (if somewhat wasted) as a commuter I reckon....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I’m catching up with a lot of videos and I accidentally stumbled into this one, which I already watched… how weird to read my comment now, since I eventually fell in love with the Gen 3 and I now own the Evo. Best wishes for 2023 and thanks again. I cannot ride in the French Alps right now but I’m enjoying some pretty awesome content from you ✌️
That looks such a well finished bike, beautiful. Lovely to see nice weather and scenery too !
Performance appears to be massive, just a bit intimidating for me and I suspect the type that eggs you on 😱.
Keep ‘em coming........
That is the problem with these types of bike Andrew, unless you have extreme self control (I don't) you are tempted to go everywhere at silly speeds....that said the bike is very easy to ride, far from intimidating...
Looks are obviously in the eye of the beholder, not a looker I have to say, IMO. My mates absolutely love theirs. Good real world review Andy👍🏻
Cheers Tony!
That's a great road on the weekends - I do Northampton - Buckingham - Wilmslow - Aylesbury, ending at On Yer Bike & back via Bicester........Damn I'm sounding like a roadmap bore now but it's just great to see others take the same bends as me! Roll on Spring.
Amen to that...and yes that road out of Aylesbury is one of the rare quite nice ones around here....
Alright Andy, you finally did it. Well, you piled on at the very least. A 2020 KTM 1290 Super Duke R should be delivered to my house on Friday. Thanks to insights from you, teapotone (Bruce), and Lamb Chop Rides (John) and my wonderful wife's coaxing to "get what I wanted, not the cheap one." I will continue to watch your appraisals of the two wheeled machinery we all love so much and the adventures of Mr. and Mrs. Flyer. Cheers!
Congratulations Jeff - enjoy and be safe!
I'm just going to assume the speedo was reading in KPH...
Great vid as always!
Correct!
The video I’ve been waiting for. I’m currently in the position of choosing between this and the GT version ready for the arrival of spring time.
Great Reviews as always. 👌👌😊
Thank you
Thanks Andy, she is a beauty. I look forward to your streetfighter comparison.
Thank you very much for this, I am considering buying the Super Duke.
Glad I could help!
Pure hooligan bike, and you have to love that!! Thanks Andy, stay safe brother.
You got that right! You too Andy.....
What a beast of a machine, love it mate!!!
Me too!
Just watched Bojos announcement so felt fed up then realised not yet seen this, feet up brew on looking forward to this 👍🏻
Yes a bit of a depressing day on the COVID front for us int he UK again isn't it.....so glad I got a lot "in the can" during summer....
@@TheMissendenFlyer we'll be the judge of that :)
@matthew Oliver you’re not alone on that
As always, high quality informative and unbiased review! Keep raising the bar TMF 👍🏾
Curious about your first ride comparison against the MT10SP & Aprilia Tuono you last tested...grin factor?
All much on a par to a normal road rider like me really Kenny (I'm not a track day fan or wheelie merchant as you know) - pick the one you like the look of most and enjoy! Can't go wrong with any of those three.....
Great review, great bike👍
That is an amazing bike, KTM have come on leaps and bounds in the last few years. For the KTM critics, I recently bought a brand new BMW S1000RR M Sport and had to take it back the very next day! Go figure.
Thanks TMF another great review👌
Yes there's a lot of folklore on the web about which bike is more reliable than another - in my experience they're all pretty good and even "premium" brands have their bad moments (my BMW has been the least reliable of all the bikes I've owned but I wouldn't conclude all BMWs are dogs!!).....
Great birthday gift ....vid of ktm from tmf!
Happy Birthday!
Beauty and The Beast, especially for KTM. Love, actually, the no sound out of that exhaust and so would my neighbors.
Another great vid Andy! Beautiful looking bike... much more aggressive looking than my wee 790
Indeed Dave - a beast as KTM said (v your "scalpel")....
i like the speedo, so easy to read which is needed when you're doing over 150
after I demoed one back in September I am going to purchase the black one in May. Upgrading from my street triple RS. That I use for my daily commute. Looking forward to seeing what you run down video says about it. I’m hoping it’s gonna be a good commuter/weekend toy
That's one mean looking bike. It's looks like a ton of fun. I'm not a fan of the colors but they do a good job with how it's laid out.
Ive been waiting for this, so thanks very much. Disappointing to hear about the sound of the Akrapovic Slip on exhaust as they are almost £1200... Im having the full Evo system fitted in a couple of weeks. The pegs are adjustable and i noticed on the bike they were in the higher position. Great video and thanks very much.
Aha, I didn't realise that Billy, that explains that tucked up position....
I have the Akra fitted since I got it for free and the can will "sing" a little bit more with time...not to be compared with the Evo of course but since its illegal in my country I must say that it is a good but expensive compromise for those who live in a country with a lot of noise restrictions.
Looks like a great bike
Another great video
Thanks 👍
Great review
Thanks Philip!
Tight! Killed it!
Thanks TMF for this review (and all the others). Impossible to get these new models here in Thailand. I had the old SDR Gen 1, now have a 2016 Tuono Factory (again only five or six of them in Thailand) I prefer the Tuono.
Based on your previous review I have a Tiger Sport 1050, it’s been great and good for two up riding. Also an MT09 modified with a turbo. Thanks again and look forward to more vids🙏👍
Turbo MT09!! Nuts!!!
It’s surprisingly controllable and usable but yes it can be nuts sometimes. You need to look further down the road than the other bikes mentioned even with modded brakes etc. It’s a fun project bike.
You are such a careful rider, and then the Super Duke applies its influence :-)
Some bikes just encourage that. It's in their nature.
Indeed they do Bill!
Love it mate. Such a great bike. 👌👌🙏🇦🇺
Love the orange nite mode !
Lovely bike indeed! I like the blue, instead of all those black bits. Nice touch.
U have done the panigale V2 (one of my dream bikes) and now the 1290r (another dream bike) can't wait to watch this series
Lots more to come Cameron! Stay tuned.....
Saw a 2016 model today at superbike factory. Wow. Pics and videos don't do justice.
Great vid & what a gorgeous brute.....the KTM I mean lol. Really like it & it's my favourite supernaked by a mile. Not sure I could consistently be a good boy on it though.
Picked up my ‘21 a few weeks ago. It’s an awesome bike.
Congratulations Adam!
I look forward to the rest of your review of the SDR. I am seriously considering trading in my SDGT for the new R.
Stay tuned - lots more to come over the next week or two on this one.....
Thanks Andy, I enjoyed it!
My pleasure as ever Rutger - always good to have you along.....
May I say that you have very smooth transitions between your video clips - I suspect that is not by chance! Nice work 👍
Thank you for noticing Rikky - that's what takes up most of my editing time!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yep same here!
Looking forward to the Mrs and her report.
Great review, just bought a left over 2017 beast 2 could never quite afford the brand new ones always just out of reach price wise. The LC8 is a stonking engine no dought about it, I put a pipewerks on mine and it sounds incredible 😊👍
Congratulations Phil - what a bike eh?
Puts a smile on your face! And your License in the bin? lol 😂
Yes that is the danger with these sorts of bikes John - extreme self control required!
@@TheMissendenFlyer which I do not have whatever the bike can do I have to max it out! Which is why I sold my 1000cc sports bike and have ordered the new Triumph Trident 660, it’s called getting old? Don’t ever do it? lol 😂
@@johnterry804 Too late - I have a GS remember!
Nice bike, can’t wait for some warm dry days again
You and me both! ...it's snowing out of my window as I type!!
I own a 2020 1290 Superduke R, and i have used it for almost a whole season, about 10k km, and it's the best big bike i have had when it comes to fuel economy, and grin factor 😁😁
Btw you have the footpegs in the top position, its much less aggressive when in the bottom posistion 👌👌
Yes I wish I'd spotted that! You're the 2nd to mention it....
I have had mine since August done nearly 3000 miles it is a smile machine and you don't have to ride it like a lunatic... self control :)
Trouble is I don’t have much self control on bikes like this....
12:57 You just know you've got your front brake covered, just incase that car hasn't seen you.
I went from a 790 to the 2020 KTM 1290r it was the SDR I was waiting for. I’ve had it for 4 months and enraptured every ride. I also have the MotoGP blue and orange, you can set the screen to be permanently orange.
Nice one - that blue is cool isn’t it...
Like it I'd have one in my garage and maybe one it might be possible look forward to seeing more . Cheers : )
Stay tuned Malcolm....
Not seen a bad review of this bike yet, looks the business
Lovely bike and what a road to ride it on. I used to work at Halton but would stay in Buckingham so I could ride that road twice a day 👍.
Yes some nice roads around there....(at least for Buckinghamshire!)
Hello chief. I just bought a ‘22 Super Duke R EVO. I’m glad that you have had an opportunity to review it. I currently have three scooters: a Victory Kingpin, a new CB500XA and the KTM. As a geezer, 65, I find it a satisfactory collection of cruiser, adventure bike and a hyper bike.
*Let me die a young man’s death* by Roger McGough:
Let me die a young man’s death
not a clean and in-between
the sheets holy water death
not a famous-last-words
peaceful out of breath death
When I’m 73
and in constant good tumour
may I be mown down at dawn
by a bright red sports car
on my way home
from an allnight party
Or when I’m 91
with silver hair
and sitting in a barber’s chair
may rival gangsters
with ham-fisted Tommy guns burst in
and give me a short back and insides
Or when I’m 104
and banned from the Cavern
may my mistress
catching me in bed with her daughter
and fearing for her son
cut me up into little pieces
and throw away every piece but one
Let me die a young man’s death not a free from sin tiptoe in candle wax and waning death not a curtains drawn by angels borne ‘what a nice way to go’ death
We have to think we’re cool because nobody else does 🙄
Nothing like dispatching a convertible plus a JCB just watch the mph
Looks a beast of a bike, great video cheers Andy 👍🏍
My pleasure Terry!
Ah i now own this bike and love it changed the silencer
I've heard every KTM comes with the non- removable & much "loved" Auto-Wallet-Depleter-Device. Let us know as you become acquainted with this option...!
Don’t all new bikes?
BMW certainly do!
Mine did, the gearbox failed @ 9k miles!
That's when they are called ATMs, rather than KTMs.
Lol.. I can vouch for that, as my ATM is in the shop now. But I it’s sweet to the beat, event though it’s only a baby version of this monster “puppy”. Stay safe all!
Thanks for images of warm weather and green leaves.
Ho ho,this bike turned you into a hooligan.
Yes it's that sort of bike Alan - and I thought the warm sunny weather would be appreciated here in the UK this time of year...
I have one, the best bike I've ever owned (and first from brand new), my first foray into the world of V twin juicy torque!!!, busy adding a smattering of carbon fibre bits , until spring arrives and riding resumes.👍👍🇬🇧
Nice one!
New subscriber here - nice one mate enjoyed that 😊👍
Hey welcome along!
Another great review, love the super duke r. What happens to the press bike after everyone has finished with it?
Normally they go back out to dealers and get sold as used bikes....
Ktm killed it with styling on this one.
All the Dukes look the same.
I purchased one last year and I really do think it is a stand out bike. It ticks so many box’s. You could tour on one and you can even get KTM proper panniers for it. It’s great for a Sunday blast and will keep up with everything and with the 140nm torque you will embarrass Super-bikes with the exceleration. Braking is off the planet as is the quick shift. I got the heated grips at £175 and when you compare to Kwak ZH2 at £375 for heated grips and heated gloves at £250 etc it’s not a bad deal. Only gripe is that the performance pack has to be purchased to pull wheelies but you can live with that and I will purchase in the summer which by then will give me ample tiMe on the bike, which I think is a good thing for me and most as it is a beast lol. I would recommend a purchase all day long. I love you channel and if you are ever down to Bury Hill or near Billingshurst West Sussex give me a shout for a ride out👍🏻
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Thank you Mark - appreciated!
Nice machine buddy 👍
Sure is
Very nice, I do wonder how reliable they are now, be good to find out some how. Those switch gears look cool I do wonder about them getting snagged on your jacket or when cleaning and being ripped off though. Otherwise AWSOME! 😊👍🏼
My 2017 SA S has been incredibly reliable. On par with the Hondas and Kawasakis I've had and much better than BMW or Ducati.
Great review ..Is it still the case that the extras already fitted have to be unlocked at extra expense ?.
Sadly yes....
Great review, looks like a lovely machine. However my money is on the Ducati Street fighter 👌
Do like the new generation of KTM’s, they’ve come along way over the last few years. Road test in 2021 is on the cards I do think😉👍🏽
Have your wallet at hand! You have been warned...
I’m sure I’ll love it, but I’ll be keeping the H2SXSE, far more practical for what I want it for and I can go touring two up in style n comfort😉👍🏽
Good review as always. I’ve ridden all the current “supernakeds” and owned a Tuono V4 Factory (2019), they are awesome and a giggle to ride, I only had mine for 8 months, despite what the reviewers say they are rich peoples toys, not really everyday practical, pretty uncomfortable, bugger to keep clean, brutal fuel consumption, no storage options, poor range, I really struggle to see the point of the current crop of bikes that hit jail speed in second and can only be used to their potential on track by a really talented rider. What are they for ? I don’t mind admitting that my Tuono was too much and I find my Street Triple RS better in every respect on road and track for a mere mortal
I tend to agree Matt!
Well as it's January now - heated seat and grips?? Great review as always
Thanks for watching Ray.....
Not been keen on the KTM look, but really like that. The blue and Orange is cool. Love the routing of the exhaust..just looks purposeful. There looks to be some baffles in the exhaust, which I dare say could be persuaded to come out should an owner want. Looking out the window on a dreary January day...lets hope we get weather like that this year and the freedom to ride the roads! Very interested to hear the longer term review!
You and me both Vernon!! Stay tuned for lots more sunny rides on the KTM coming soon!
The purpose of those exhaust bends and bulges are for the EPA, DOT, and AQMD (Air Quality
Management District), not for fluid dynamics or power. Unfortunately, if you take them out,
you still have a bunch of tuning to do.
@@daveinwla6360 I just like the aesthetics of the exhaust. In purpose there can be beauty in my eye.
@@vernonwitney806 - I gotta admit, those pipes are a bold-stroke statement!
Absolutely at the top of my list for my next bike.
Biggest concern is the fact that the quickshifter (a must for anyone who's now used to them) is extra on such an expensive bike.
Yes a bit cheeky of KTM to charge extra to activate it isn't it...
Yes, you have to buy the Tech package to unlock the extras which is about $900.00US
purchase the 2020 1290 SDR, at 57 year's old,am pulling mile long wheelies on this damn evil machine,best bike for the city and country riding, on the highway it sucks.
Nice idea to give a close up on the controls, reviewer's often talk about them but until you get a close up it's sometimes difficult to understand the point. Thanks TMF
I did a brief menu setting control how to vid on my own channel.
I wonder if you had it long enough to use in the winter. I’d like to know how the fancy electronics held up in winter riding in cold, wet and on salted/gritted roads. I used to have a gen 2 SDR which I sold off 3 - 4 months after I bought it due to all the electronic gremlins it had... bike starting itself when switched off, various error codes etc. I later on got a gen 1 SDR SE which never gave me any issues, though it was no where as refined as the gen 2. The Likeable Rider recently bought a gen 3 like you’re testing and he’s also just had electronic issues on his (during one of his rideouts with AndyMan Cam). KTM make great bikes for sure, but the reliability of their electronic components leave a lot to be desired.
Sadly no, I only had the bike for two weeks - so never got to do that rainy ride in Slough....
Would be great if you could review the 890 duke as well thinking if it’s the best middle weight bike out there right now similar to the street triple RS and Aprilia 660RS
Yeah I really should get onto one of those Tom...maybe in the spring....
That blue tank looks like an aftermarket wrap 😏
It's rather good to hear you pronounce Akropovic as "A kra PO vic", because I did it for years. When I got my new KTM Duke 890R last June with the optional exhaust, I decided I should investigate the name of this Romanian company. Turns out, best I can determine, it's pronounced "A KRAP o vich", which sadly has other connotations in English! 😂
This debate always comes up however I pronounce it -I regretted uttering the name as soon as I did so!!!
My beast at this moment in garage, I got just 300 miles on it :D Waiting for better weather :D
You and me both!
You’re so funny mate... the first thing needs doing is a new can, reflash of the ecu and last, needs to be placed in the garage for the bmw s1000 rr.... and definitely need to blur out that tft so the old bill doesn’t give you any Shyte!
Not sure about the naked version but I was impressed with GT version, the engine is indeed a beast even in touring trim.
Yes I can't get on with Rhino looks of the GT but agree it is almost just as much of a beast as the SDR
On my second Super Duke. The torque snd horsepower all below 9500 rpm. More horsepower and torque than the Streetfighter V4 up til 9500 rpm. Streetfighter is track rpm. Super Duke street rpm.
That's a good looking KTM, presumably the muted exhaust is an £800 'upgrade'..... Thanks TMF, look forward to the next one.
Thanks as ever Colin......
look at our beautiful british summer 🇬🇧 ☀️☀️🌡🌡🌡🌻🌾🌻🌾 🇬🇧 if that doesnt make your soul sing 🕊
Thought you might like that.....
was waiting for the rubber gaitors comment re the mirrors lol
This color scheme is awesome but the new 2022 blue color scheme looks even more ‘’🤤’’