Season 12 VEX Guide - How To Play VEX Mid - Detailed Guide
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Yo, just wanna say, I know these guides take a lot of effort and time to make. But they are GOLD when it comes to league knowledge to be able to learn from. Keep it up.
I would even say that they are... challenger! lol ok I'll get out
Hey Coach, I just want to say that i really enjoy all your content, thank you so much for your knowledge and especially for doing it for free. Quality and quantity unmatched. Personally i went from middle plat hardstuck for a feel years to d1 almost in my best of 5 just this season and all with your free amazing content! Keep up the marvelous work!! Cheers from Brazil!
My pleasure Patrick! Cheers from Australia!
I've been spamming vex recently. The concepts you bring are so helpful. Holding R when you get the reset, and overwhelming their mental. Such good advice!!!!
I like how this is focused on matchups and on actual gameplay
36:44 This is exactly why I love playing Malphite. The threat level and threat range of that guy is so massive. That sometimes by you just being in vision you will save your teammates from many situations. You literally do not have to do anything else than be in the enemy vision while also having them within your range. Its so funny.
Your timing is impeccable! I've just started playing Vex and I love her kit and was hoping there was a guide out there somewhere. Then this pops up! Thank you so much for all your hard work.
same tbh
My pleasure Hayley!
I was going to say the same. Used to be a malz main and now am rounding out my pool and really enjoy vex.
How do u click around minions. I dobt even click on minion but still it auto the minion or loop around
this video was actually SO HELPFUL DUDE! thank you so much for releasing such good content for us all.
Thank you so much for this. I just made the swap from support to Mid after 2 years, and have already risen five divisions with vex.
I've been playing LoL for month and a half and picked Vex as my champion. this guide has helped me a lot!. thanks!
I’m 40 minutes in so far and this is amazing
yeah you do need it.
This guide is awesome. I recently picked league back up (haven’t played in so long) and got to silver and currently climbing with Vex. This guide has helped me so much not only with Vex but being a better mid laner. Thank you so much for this guide!
I think there are exceptions where crown on vex is really good, I played a game into a Lee, malphite, yasuo, and that meant that I could be the engage for our team (we didn't have any reliable engage) without getting cc combod to death, as I would survive the entire burst. So I think Crown is good when In rare situations where your team doesn't have engage and/or the enemy are heavily bursy oriented
Hi coach, I usually don't comment, but I just want to express my gratitude for all the content you put on youtube. I was a Shaco otp and switched to mid this preseason. I was terrible at everything in the game apart from playing Shaco, so I had to re-learn the game from scratch. Your videos helped me a lot and I already got to D3. Thank you a lot Coach!
This is amazing. I picked up Vex a while ago, but felt I was unable to use her full potential, so I wished you had a guide on her. But I didn't actually think it would happen!
Your guides and mental approach to the game are incredibly helpful. It is only after I found your channel that I truly started climbing in the ranks, even though I used to watch lots of other educational content.
Appreciate that !
2 years in, still the best vex guide out there
I’m new to league this is my first week playing and this is the greatest guide I’ve ever watched you are amazing thank you!
I wanted to thank you alot for this guide this really clicked vex with me and improved my gameplay as a mid overall, I'm now climbing in plat after watching this video and feel like I understand everything much better in terms of macro, best educational video about a champion I have ever seen.
Once again, thanks curtis for this great guide, just wanted to start vex so this gonna be a huge help as usual =)
Hope this sets you on the right path :)
As a vex main this is actually really good. It's so much better than any other vex guide I've seen
I live for these videos, I've read an article some time ago which implied that you can basically learn in your sleep so I always have these on as sort of a podcast. Excited for this one once again and thanks as always for the content coach! ❤
Bro you can definitely not learn in your sleep.
@@Jimijimijunior then my research might be flawed 🤔
@@ivoschilkpiano take it from a psychology major that you cant 👌🏼💪🏼
@@Jimijimijunior I'll take it 😁👍🏻
thank you for including the coaching session as well! i learned a lot when i can see what different levels of vex players would do in each situation
I started watching ur vids a couple years ago when I was gold now I have peaked challenger can’t keep it but def improved cus of u ty :)
Lux has been my main for my entire league "career" (since 2015) and while I'm very comfortable on her, she's picked/banned wayyyy too often to be viable. Vex has been so much fun to learn, so I'm glad I found this video!
Yes! The coach is back! Great to see a guide on one of my favourite mid laners! 🔥
Happy to see this! Hopping back on the grind after a while and wanted to main Ahri and Vex so this is super helpful.
I’ve been thinking of trying out vex this season and first time finding your channel. So much great info since I’m still relatively new to league. Easy sub and like!
Another amazing guide thanks Curtis. I was considering picking up vex into my pool and now I’m definitely going to!
Cool guide, I would love if you did a Veigar guide with this style
This is exactly what I needed I felt so bad and useless in mid game even when I was 6 kills up. The idea of multithreat and flanking the backline is really what I needed I think
Also something I learned from PekinWoof: You shouldn't waste your ult reset to wave clear if you don't have any more targets to kill since that actually resets it's cooldown. If you let it time out the cd is massively reduced!
Hey, I'm not sure if I understood your tip correctly but it doesn't seem to be true. Just tested it in practice tool by killing the bot 3 times in a row. The first time I wasted my ult and the second time I let it time out. Both times the ult came off CD 72 seconds after the first ult (using the resets doesn't seem to affect the CD). Did I understand you / PekinWoof correctly? 😊
@@Erik-jf8xi I am not sure what you tested but it should work. I just went into practice tool, got fullbuild and level 11 (later 16) and killed the bot once then let my ult time out instead of recasting it, in which case the cooldown was 1:08 and once I killed the bot and then just threw my ult into the void instead of letting it time out, which resulted in a 1:22 cooldown. That's a way bigger difference than the 6 seconds it takes to time out. I am really not exactly sure why this is also when testing it further the difference seemed to be kind of inconsistent though I also wasn't too scientific about it
Hm, after testing this now even more I am still kind of confused but it seems like pekin may actually be wrong about this. Recasting might just make it go on cooldown earlier and not reset it. However that ofc mean that the number you see when recasting is higher than when letting it run out. Also the time to recast is actually 12 seconds according to lolwiki, that number is not actually mentioned in the tooltip so that may explain my confusion
Pekin is wrong about this. It's a visual bug, whether you use the R or not, doesn't change the CD
Best educational video about League I've ever seen
I dont play vex, but its always good check in depth on her gameplay, to know better how to play against her, specially my main being qiyana!
Thank you for your work and effort!
Just picked up Vex a few games ago. Thank you for such an in-depth guide mate :)
Thank you so much. I've been trying to learn Vex but struggled a lot with several aspects, but this video answered every single problem I had.
My pleasure Carl!
Crazy this content is free - this is why I preach Coach Curtis is the best coach out there
I'm pretty busy right now, but once I can get to it this vid will be getting peeped for sure. You've been putting in WORK with this character in high elo on your server, definitely a lot here to learn :)
I’m rather new to the game and my more experienced friend urged me to play something other fiddlesticks and I think I’ve found the champion I want to try out, Vex. They play rather differently and I am excited to try them out. Amazing guide ! It will really useful
Two and a half hours of Coach Curtis?? It's like my favourite movie came out early. Keep up the good work :)))
I’m here!!! So excited for this Vex video, I love my main and can’t wait to hear some complex insights
Coach I have to say this is your best guide yet, and I really appreciate the work you put into creating this fine content for us my man. Big up yourself.
I just got vex few hours ago and wanted to play her and you made a guide yesterday. Perfect
Thank you for the video and answering my question! I was definitely buffer spamming on arrival with R. I guess the best way I can describe it is, if I'm coming from the north I assume the enemy will always go south off the fear, so I was just spamming everything south.
Now that I'm being a little more patient and waiting after the W, it's def working out more, ty!
This video has actually helped me learn Vex.
Remember though that if they have edge of night or banshees, you can go ever frost and use that to remove the barrier.
Though this will have to be bought before you even know if they will buy it.
I think there are exceptions where crown on vex is really good, best in low elo where you are solo independent in the game. It allows you for risky plays when you go in without high risk of getting deleted. Or even situational when ur vs full team that engages on you.
Great guide
Greetings from Poland
Thanks a lot for your guide it's really golden value to us. You explain things nobody explains. I really hope you'll do a Lissandra guide one day, it looks like Vex in a way. Thanks again !
You just earned a new sub!!!! Damn gonna suggest this channel to my friends as well.
33:27 you can also use Q and ult like 0.5secs afterwards, the Q projective will hide the R1
Very good video though, prolly the most in-depth champion guide I've seen : )
Hey, I know you receive a lot of comments like this one but I just wanna say thank you. I'm a brazilian player stucked in Platinum for several seasons, and I've climbed to Master in 1 or 2 months after I watched your videos. I'm main Viktor and Cassiopeia btw xD thanks again!
Thanks bro,im from latinoamerica and here the guides sucks so i know a little bit of english and this videos help me a lot
Man i love how effort you put on every video and guide! i wish you could be more recognized casue you deserve it! keep it up
Hey Coach Curtis!
Lately I've been theorycrafting over some of the common mage itemization paths, and i have come to the conclusion, that you essentially have too much magic penetration when going sorcs + ludens + shadowflame + void (+ sudden impact, if taken). When full build, plus getting max value out of shadowflame, you'll end up having too much magic penetration, unless the enemy has more than, i think it was about 117, MR. As I feel like this MR number is rarely achieved, i stopped going shadowflame + ludens (unless I am not building ludens/protobelt). Would you say that going for that itemization is still worth it? Maybe there's just something of an identity problem with some items going on in my head. I'd be more than happy to hear your thoughts on that. I could imagine that shadowflame has quite decent value statwise, so having redundant magic penetration can be ignored.
In most of my games (I'd say in 90-95% of my games), I will go void staff and don't go shadowflame at all. I feel like that there are so many MR items, which any role can buy. As an example, oftentimes marksmen buy wit's end early on (vayne, varus, kogmaw, kalista, ...) or QSS later in the game when needed. Some others go for hexdrinker/maw. Mages go banshee's, ... Thus I stopped going for shadowflame, unless I know that the enemy team (or at least the enemies I should get to target) won't buy any MR. By going void staff instead of shadowflame, i miss out on 35 AP and 200 health, but something tells me that that's a worth tradeoff.
Could you please share your thoughts on that topic? I hope my calculations are plausible and correct, I wouldn't really want to share wrong information with you. As I've said, maybe I just don't properly get the actual identity of void staff and shadowflame.
Have a great day, and thanks for the Vex guide!
Robin
If the enemy is getting a LOT of MR, there is an argument to me made for void staff for sure. BUT in this situation I'd probably not even go Ludens anyway. If you can't 1 shot people your better off simply going Everfrost and being more of a facilitator/engager/space creator. I'd shift the interpretation of my identity. Vex is not good in comps where there is multiple AP threats.
In this case I'd go everfrost-->Zhonyas or something like that, and completely accept reality I'm not really doing damage.
But yes you are right mathematically Void is more valuable as a 2nd item in these situations, BUT before you commit to Void second you also need to weigh up what target you WANT to threaten.
Let's say the enemy Vayne is building MR, but the enemy mid/top are going greedy build paths and not getting defensives, I'd nearly always still build shadowflame to ensure I am maximizing threat on these 2 targets and accept reality that I wont kill Vayne. That way at least I have a clear identity in reference to THOSE 2 champs.
LOVE the way you are thinking though
@@CoachCurtis alright, thanks for your insights Coach!
This kind of video is invaluble and i love it. THank you mate.
43:05 Okay that is a really wholesome art
Omg I just found out about your channel 4 days ago and I love your content the mid fundamentals were so useful and the guides even if u don't play some Champs u kinda understand their mentality to counter them .... I cam e back to the game 3 months ago and I am back on my main ahri and ori but I really loved vex's design so this guide is golden ... I wish u could do an ahri guide again if possible cuz she got some big changes and I found my self winning a lot of early trades when I wasn't used too ... I know it's may because I am gold so they don't punish me but I thin the w change might slightly buffed her laning idk ... I wish I xould hear your prospective... continue the amazing work 🤗😍
LETSSSS GOOOOOOO i dont even play mid but learn new stuff from watching him
What a perfect video, started maining Vex cuz of this video
you make THE best guides for any champ on youtube seriously. No one else puts this much thought and shows every part of the champ including macro, micro, match ups and win conditions
Appreciate that Max!
amazing video as always! thanks for putting all the time/effort in
Super helpful! Just picked up vex and am exited to learn with her
love this kind of videos man, always waiting for another one! thanks coach
Thanks for making this amazing content available for free! Could you also consider making a video on the current state of TF in season 12 (similar to the one you did last season)? I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on the nerfs and how it affects his early game. I'm really struggling with the short roam timers now, so I'd love to hear your take on this :)
Hmmmm potentially, but not a guide
@@CoachCurtis sure thing boss. According to the subreddit not even Dopa is playing TF anymore. So I'm just curious whether he's still viable for shitty TF mains like me
Hey coach. Any chance we can get an Akshan guide as he has become a staple pick in the mid lane and has also spiked in popularity. He is also quite a complex champion in the sense that some people play him primarily as an assassin and others interpret his identity as a front to back marksman who plays for resets (Samira esque). Also there has been a civil war when it comes to itemization within his player base ever since he was released, with some one tricks even opting for assassin items since shield bow nerfs and others who live and die by kraken slayer (I personally believe Akshan isn't even Akshan without kraken). Appreciate the content nonetheless.
Thank you Coach! I was just thinking about adding her to my champ pool, nice timing.
Great video as always, thanks!
Amazing video coach! Thank you for everything
followed this guide, went 36/10/11, thumbs up.
"I know this Xin Zhao he's a bit of a psycho" LOL poor nathan
these guides are so good man TY for what you do
Anivia Guide Please! I feel its long over due and her pick rate is slowly rising this season. She def a solid champ currently.
These videos are so good with yaergerlol and sochs(Spell check..?). I now watch Curtis' videos first then move to the others.
Thank you very much for this in-depth guide
Ahri or anivia guide next ? :) great stuff man
so you know how sharks go towards blood? you should go toward kills. but like imagine you're a healthy shark (because you don't want to lose health).
also ty for these guides, the effort really shows. after watching the qiyana guide i haven't had problems against her. i've been spamming cas after the cas guide. the fizz guide was a big help before i was on cas. thx a bunch
Your voice got deeper apparently lol. Great video as always
What do you think about video like: how to make a plan for improving, what to start with, in which order to whatch and learn your videos... You know what i mean.
Very helpful Video! Thanks for that.
I find that you can sometimes get away with walking up lvl 1 and getting an AA-E-AA trade into certain matchups, usually catches them off guard
oh my gooood yeeees!
Thanks for your hard work, mr coach
Always making high quality video 👍
Hey Coach, what is for you the difference between a semi-melee and a pure one ? I mean, do you consider yasuo or yone as a pure melee ? Because i feel like it's not a good idea to stack 3 first waves vs them, especially vs yas
Hey coach, I was just wondering if you could do a kassadin guide, I would totally love it.
Appreciate all the hard work you put out for the league community! Thank you!
awesome video , but like on every other video till now since a few months i will ask for what we ( or only me ) want : Make a veigar guide plssss :c . Make Veigod great again ;)
You have the best guides on CZcams, I hope you can stream to
I was wondering what you were up to, seems it was making a guide on my fav champion
Coach is back!
Fantastic breakdown as per usual! Always love the focus on champ identity and how that translates to execution.
How well would you say this approach to Vex maps onto Ahri's identity and gameplay with the new update?
Particularly given the ability to start W and look for harass and maneuverability, or Q if you want to prioritize waveclear and rushing 2 vs mages, as well as charm and ulti giving you that aggressive diver/kitey facilitator duality (and can be reinforced w Ludens/Everfrost paths in different matchups).
I'd say Ahri is quite similar to Vex in many ways, so a lot of the info here, including the Shark Mindset actually flows on quite well to her
i got nearly 100k on Vex and i'm watching this guide
Banger guide!
actually a god, thank you
Very well done guide thank you so much for this!
Great guide, would love to see one on Anivia as well! :)
yo insane guide thanks so much
Amazing Guides as always! Do you feel like those two builds go for Galio now too?
Really good guide, already watched the whole thing and I aprove this message
There is 5x speed option?
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Hi, the video is really really usefull, I learned a lot, I am starting to play mid (was a main jungler before), I am still learning a lot on Vex and I am looking back at parts of the video from time to time. I was wondering, Who would you suggest as a good secondary pick ? Because Vex as some tough matchups, are there champions that are really good to counter the counters of vex ? or just a secondary that as a similar playstyle but complement the weakness of Vex. Thank you a lot for the videos, keep the quality of the content high, by far the best guide over youtube :)
Vex combo to peel yourself vs champ w banshee or EoN you start with r then w e q give up r cd for peel since r doesn’t use your passive stack
Hello, i really like your videos. Is this Vex guide still actual ? I really enjoy playing her. Can you give me an advice for another two champs to her ? Pls no Viktor. I have only 28% winrate from almost 30games. Idk i think that im playing him good, but getting unlucky. I thought about ap Varus on mid. Cause i really hate tanks. Thank you for any advices.
Holy shit this channel is good. Subbed!
As someone who plays a lot of Auerlion Sol, I'm curious about why you've put him as a favorable matchup. I usually beat Vex in early game skirmishes, since I have much more sustained damage and waveclear, while my early game trades are slightly stronger (so I basically always have mid prio). The only area that Vex outperforms me in is range, but her abilities are fairly telegraphed, and she usually runs out of mana before I run out of health. Plus Aurelion Sol's E has much more range than Vex's R, so he has a much easier time showing up to initiate or turn around fights.
Is there something I'm missing here? Have my successes just came from the fact that I pretty much always fought against Vex players that are less experienced in the matchup, than me?