Channel LSV - Vintage Delver (Deck Tech & Matches)

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  • čas přidán 18. 09. 2017
  • Disclaimer: This video was recorded before the restriction of Monastery Mentor and Thorn of Amethyst, but after some consideration, we determined that the content was too good to waste.
    LSV's deck list: www.channelfireball.com/videos...
    Match 1: 02:07
    Match 2: 21:24
    Match 3: 36:46
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Komentáře • 84

  • @TheK3vin
    @TheK3vin Před 6 lety +52

    *writes an article ranking the basic lands*
    *asks not to be judged for having non-matching Wastelands*
    You get to pick one, Luis.

  • @TolkiCasts
    @TolkiCasts Před 6 lety +44

    The paranoia about Ballista against shops when he had Null Rod on board was pretty hilarious. Looked like PTSD.

  • @__Logan
    @__Logan Před 6 lety +65

    LSV back making Vintage CFB videos, today is a great day.

  • @ItRhymesWith
    @ItRhymesWith Před 6 lety +20

    57:27 Open Fire confirmed Vintage playable

  • @zebur4170
    @zebur4170 Před 6 lety

    I've never watched an LSV video I didn't love.
    Best player by far. Super informative

  • @firethunder834
    @firethunder834 Před 6 lety

    Just an aside: my favorite flavor text of all time is Phyrexian Negator. But yeah, Null Rod's flavor text is in the hall of fame, for sure. Thanks for the video, LSV!

  • @dannypagano323
    @dannypagano323 Před 6 lety

    "Delver of Secrets, the one mana 3/2 flier." Thanks for that LSV.

  • @TeambrutalDeluxe
    @TeambrutalDeluxe Před 6 lety +29

    I was like "why is lsv so paranoid about mentor". then i realized, vid was probably recorded a year ago. FeelsBadMan

    • @knighttiger2117
      @knighttiger2117 Před 6 lety +2

      Bro, Its probably because Mentor is just absurd. And with so many draw spells like ponder brainstorm ancestral etc. It's not too difficult to find and kill with a 1 of.

  • @guillem1985
    @guillem1985 Před 6 lety

    LSV playing Magic + Vintage = Great Moments!

  • @nicholasbarnhart
    @nicholasbarnhart Před 6 lety +1

    That Shops game was so awesome.

  • @garethwood3215
    @garethwood3215 Před 6 lety

    Makes me want to play magic again, I love LSV so much :)

  • @adampilarski7083
    @adampilarski7083 Před 6 lety +16

    THE judger of landbases doesn't want to be judged on off brand Wasteland? Consider yourself judged 😁

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus Před 6 lety +1

      the land base of this deck sucks. Apart from what you've mentioned.

  • @LaserfaceJones
    @LaserfaceJones Před 6 lety

    "Wow, I'm getting owned."
    Now THAT'S a phrase I haven't heard in a very long time

  • @tyler3050
    @tyler3050 Před 6 lety

    Sweet! More vintage!

  • @danmaftei7633
    @danmaftei7633 Před 6 lety

    Wow, that delver just did not want to flip.

  • @notorioezz
    @notorioezz Před 6 lety +7

    The video can't be that old, it has a By Force in it from Amonkhet. But yeah, one opponent had multiple Mentors.. Got me confused...

    • @notorioezz
      @notorioezz Před 6 lety +3

      NOTE: last opponent had Abrade, that's HOU. So I don't get how in the world one dude had multiple Mentors..

    • @albertomunizdelucas1460
      @albertomunizdelucas1460 Před 6 lety +7

      It was recorded after HOU but before the banning. That's all

    • @notorioezz
      @notorioezz Před 6 lety +1

      The banning just feel a lot longer to me :p time flies I guess

  • @DeltaAccel
    @DeltaAccel Před 6 lety

    That game vs workshops you didn't have to worry about ballista because of null rod.

  • @Bladerxdxi
    @Bladerxdxi Před 6 lety

    But if you wasteland academie. He has no mana to activate the factories right? well he can activate only 1.

  • @jacobbrunner7461
    @jacobbrunner7461 Před 6 lety +1

    Love the Video! Thank you sir.
    In the third match, the second game I was really biting my nails. I believe you should've used Jace +1 on their delver, because if they flip it with you on three that's kinda bad. You had the ground locked up, but the air was a good way to attack you.
    Bonus Question:
    This has been bugging me for a while. Is pizza a burrito or a sandwitch?

  • @Jack-Lack
    @Jack-Lack Před 4 lety

    Pretty insane the amount of games where your only mana is moxes, and you have Null Rod.

  • @Ethryas
    @Ethryas Před 6 lety +1

    Anyone else would've brought in By Force against Paradoxical match one?

  • @xZYTECx
    @xZYTECx Před 4 lety

    4:30 why not misstep instead of fow?

  • @jeffevans5736
    @jeffevans5736 Před 6 lety

    lsv, i never once thought i'd have to say language!

  • @legacyjankmtg3917
    @legacyjankmtg3917 Před 6 lety

    Whatever your doing with LandStill.... PLEASE make that a video :)

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet Před 5 lety

    At 4:40 Why use Force and not Mistep as the second counter, isn't a second card in hand better than 1 life?

    • @MrTandtrollet
      @MrTandtrollet Před 5 lety

      Oh, nvm they targeted the Spell Pierce not you Misstep with their Force.

  • @Bane13579
    @Bane13579 Před 6 lety

    Had to listen to 45:37 three times to be sure I didn't hear what I thought I heard.

  • @testthewest123
    @testthewest123 Před 5 lety

    And there is me wonder whyy the opponent can play 2 Monastery Mentor, until I realize the video is from 2017...

  • @91donwilson
    @91donwilson Před 6 lety

    "Dack into action" hahah keep your pants on LSV

  • @KILLAH2708
    @KILLAH2708 Před 6 lety

    Galarga?

  • @RW77777777
    @RW77777777 Před 6 lety

    I like the 2nd game
    where he has 1 island the whole game

  • @RagingPoo
    @RagingPoo Před 5 lety

    52:42 You should have targeted Delver with the Jace activation. I'm very surprised you didn't to be honest.

  • @janrodriguez3200
    @janrodriguez3200 Před 6 lety

    Can someone explain null rods flavor text to me? I just don't get it.

    • @TemporalMeteor
      @TemporalMeteor Před 6 lety

      Gerrard: "But it doesn't do anything!"
      Hanna: "No-it does nothing."

    • @janrodriguez3200
      @janrodriguez3200 Před 6 lety

      Infectedstyles do you think I didn't know that was an option available to me? If I asked the comments that means I didn't care enough to Google it. Telling me to Google it is like telling me to drink water when I said I'm thirsty.

    • @alazrabed
      @alazrabed Před 6 lety

      "No, you just _do_ not get it."

    • @RW77777777
      @RW77777777 Před 6 lety

      you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

    • @qikink1
      @qikink1 Před 6 lety +1

      Suppose you had a machine that made empty space by removing objects. You might say that machine "does" (makes) nothing.

  • @legochickenguy4938
    @legochickenguy4938 Před 6 lety

    tfw you have 25 mana on turn two but die to a sulfur elemental

  • @stupidrock0153
    @stupidrock0153 Před 6 lety

    50:00 i am so confused why you didn't play your lotus for tokens???????????

    • @RagingPoo
      @RagingPoo Před 5 lety

      Lotus doesn't make tokens for Young Pyromancer

  • @aleksanderk6765
    @aleksanderk6765 Před 6 lety

    Funtimes!

  • @CHAOSBLACKDOOM
    @CHAOSBLACKDOOM Před 6 lety

    He couldn't get Sapphire in the final game with Trinket Mage because you countered it at the very beginning of that game. Still should have gotten Lotus I think.

  • @nolansouders
    @nolansouders Před 6 lety

    Do you own a paper vintage deck

  • @donkey12045
    @donkey12045 Před 6 lety

    i have never heard LSV swear before lol.
    45:38

    • @firedrake110
      @firedrake110 Před 6 lety

      "off like a dismember or something" and you still haven't!

  • @matthewrogalinski6544
    @matthewrogalinski6544 Před 6 lety

    LSV Alpha Vintage Delver O Great Denver #FloppyTaco

  • @rolfvlierhuis7289
    @rolfvlierhuis7289 Před 6 lety

    Because what I think Dack does is... get Mana Drained... lol.

  • @alanyuan8565
    @alanyuan8565 Před 6 lety

    Metal misstep

  • @maxducoudray
    @maxducoudray Před 6 lety

    Come on, LSV! Phyrexian Metamorph copying Delver can’t flip! Copies of double-faced cards aren’t double-faced and ignore any instructions to transform.

  • @FlourescentPotato
    @FlourescentPotato Před 6 lety

    lsv

  • @snowy-g9p
    @snowy-g9p Před 6 lety +2

    this is a amazing example of why vintage is the best format its more then just a million power 9 that auto win its a powerful and amazing puzzle for you to solve.

  • @WaallyOne
    @WaallyOne Před 6 lety +2

    can someone tell me why Mentor is restricted and not Young Peezy? Is the prowess *that* good? Is white better than red in vintage? Is the difference between 2 and 3 mana smaller in vintage?

    • @joeltucci1916
      @joeltucci1916 Před 6 lety +34

      Darien W difference is the moxen, you get tokens off of your mana sources with mentors.

    • @DayQuil1
      @DayQuil1 Před 6 lety +13

      Mentor prowess triggers off of artifact cards like moxen and lotus as well as instant/sorceries meaning you can jam them for free in nearly every blue based vintage deck. Artifact mana also helps you bomb out mentor faster than in other formats, negating its 3 cmc and letting you get it online faster. In comparison to Pyro, base Mentor triggers off everything, where as pyro does not benefit from the vintage artifacts. The monk token also has the same prowess trigger as its creator, allowing it to "fit in" just like the Mentor, with zero deck alteration. Each of these monk tokens is also a much larger threat than a young pyro token because of the added prowess.
      Basically, every time you could get a 1/1 from pyro, you could instead get a 1/1 monk that turns into a X/X on the next turn, as well as giving one (or many) of your own creatures +X/X on that turn. To top it off, the mentor also triggered (basically) whenever a non-land card was played in vintage, as opposed to pyro, which received no benefit from artifacts and planes-walkers.

    • @random34875
      @random34875 Před 6 lety +1

      the fact that mentor has prowess and the tokens have it as well, makes it a much better card
      EDIT: Also pyro just triggers on instant and sorcery

    • @knighttiger2117
      @knighttiger2117 Před 6 lety

      Yeah, and also if you get 2 or 3 prowess tokens, even without the Mentor they are threats.

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob Před 6 lety

      Mentor is basically (Young Pyromancer)² that's not even taking into account that Mentor triggers off of all noncreature spells.

  • @bosstsuna114
    @bosstsuna114 Před 6 lety

    When bolt becomes open fire...

  • @leftiemel9395
    @leftiemel9395 Před 6 lety

    @21:23 99% of all magic players hahahahahaha
    @30:30 he concedes and lsv says didnt think i was winning that one

  • @chameleonedm
    @chameleonedm Před 6 lety

    I enjoyed this but damn I don't want to hear your tongue clicking and all those other mouth sounds. Can you invest in a pop filter and move the mic away a bit please

  • @jackrosen1
    @jackrosen1 Před 6 lety

    You can misstep chalice on 1.

  • @aaronhooker7588
    @aaronhooker7588 Před 6 lety

    32 people play vintage, why make a video for it?

    • @bipolarprobe
      @bipolarprobe Před 6 lety +32

      Aaron Hooker because for all the rest of us that can't afford to play it it can still be interesting to watch from afar, wishing we had the luxury car's worth of money to play the format.

    • @WarsWorth
      @WarsWorth Před 6 lety +4

      Because vintage is the second best format in magic.

    • @coltonellis193
      @coltonellis193 Před 6 lety +3

      Aaron Hooker 32 is a little generous, don't you think?

    • @SpawnofHastur
      @SpawnofHastur Před 6 lety

      Vintage is actually cheaper than Legacy online.

    • @KnyghtErrant
      @KnyghtErrant Před 6 lety +14

      Online this deck costs less than a tier 1 modern deck does in paper.