Lexi's Play makes fun of Cassie's Shallow Personality EUPHORIA S2 E7
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In real life no one would be happy about a play written revolving their own life and their own business without their consent- even if it was a good play.
That's right a relative did something like this and everyone burned her book, banned her from family's events and many people dont speak to her anymore.
Then maybe they shouldnât send their kids to a school who puts on a play like this. Itâs one thing for Lexi to make the script and publish it on her own using the Internet or something. Itâs another for adults and faculty to say âyup sure go ahead and have total creative control, we will see what you come up with opening night - and we will not interfere even if the play is hurtful to studentsâ
What's worse is that this is even normalized lmao. Some people here root for this kind of humiliation, not trying to put their shoes in this kind of situation. What kind of right does Lexi have anyway? Doesnt matter if the writer and character are both very close, it's still VERY disrespectful and disgusting if it's not consented.
the worst part is that it's called "our life" yet we dont see almost anything from what everyone else have done, she just added nate because she knew it would hurt cassie, it was just created to humiliate her sister that has never done anything to her, weird aff
@@pieckfinger7169 thats what ive been thinking ALL THE TIME idgaf what Cassie did, what Lexi did is fucked up either way, and ik for sure if Lexi did it to me id beat the shit out of her, and Cassies reaction was justified.. Like yea she has been a bitch, but wtf did Lexi expect? We cant blame Cassie for freaking out..
I meanâŠ.even Kat and Maddy arenât laughing at Cassieâs character in the play, thatâs saying something.
And even Nate felt bad for Cassie.
Maddy didnât mind it later on.
Because they know Cassie more than Lexi does so even when they have beef with her they with her past trauma and also Maddy knows her real karma is being stuck with Nate.
I was waiting for that one , thank you! đđ
It just goes to show how Maddy was so appreciative of Cassie. When you think about it, Maddy is one of the few people who respected Cassie, along with her mom.
Suze reactions in this episode are hilarious she carried this chaotic finale
She was drunk
@@ollieno971 good
@@ollieno971 and??? sheâs funny asf
@@ollieno971 um when isnât she drunk? Lol this has become her normal state at the moment.
@@TheFemaleTitan true
This particular part of the play was about blaming Cassie for developing a lot earlier than her and being sexualized for it. This was cruel
Agreed. Lexi resents Cassie for caring too much about herself and her looks and not paying her sister any attention when she needed it, but Lexi herself is too caught up in insecurity and jealousy to see how Cassie suffered for the way she looked. Sheâs not better than Cassie, as far as being a sister goes.
Actually sheâs worse since she write and produced a whole play dragging her sister most of all.
@@malinasworld nahh your trippin. cassie is horrible in all shapes and forms. friend, sister, daughter and girlfriend. cassie always made jabs at lexi for the way she looks and how she acts (being passive and shy), cassie destroyed her relationships around her for a boy who was abusive and psychotic to her ex bf. she always only cared about herself and the male gaze, she will do anything for male validation even if it destroys the people around her. her morals are corrupt and selfish. she deserved it.
@@roro13021 you never actually see her be terrible to her sister, not truly terrible, sheâs mostly just uninvolved, which is completely normal for teenagers, and a horrible daughter? their mother might seem all cool and fun, but cool mums will always look that way, especially the alcoholic one, to everyone but their children at least, the ones who have to deal with cleaning up after them when theyâre too intoxicated, the ones who have to learn how to cook when they should be watching cartoonsâŠ, Cassie and Lexis mum is funny, Iâll give her that, and she clearly cares, but sheâs not so shit hot, wonât even touch on their fathers issues, the only ones whoâs truly hurt by her actions are McKay and Maddy, sheâs really the only person sheâs actively doing wrong by right now too, Lexi was out of line and it wasnât her place to share vulnerable parts of Cassie that way, even if Cassie is acting terrible, if the audience didnât know what Cassie had done, what Lexi did in her play would be seen for what it is, cruel.
@@malinasworld no it's Cassies fault for being a h*e
let's be all honest if our family had a "Lexi" she would be blacklisted from all fam events after pulling out this bullshit lmao but it's fun to watch in tv show
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No for real like after the play I'd still hang around her but sharing my secrets and the details of my life with her? NEVER
Fr this would be an awful thing to do irl but in tv show world it's soooo entertainingđ
she somehow knew about the carousel scene with cassie, Lexi is just smart enough to know shit
Fr the carousel scene was just foul, Lexi was just being malicious at that point
the "not like other girl" vibes im getting from lexi...
The "I know being informed, smart, hardworking, etc..." part was very "Pick me" of her.
Yes!!!
@@chelbanna I know! My eyes nearly rolled into the back of my head hearing that.
KindađŹ
Kinda but itâs more like Iâm an observer vibes.
Suze just hyping the actor who played her is really taking me out
It's even better that actor is Ethan lmao
Same đđđ lmao
That was so weird, I almost wanted to get into the screen and tell her "do you relaize that this is how your own daughter sees you? As an alcoholic trying desperately to act like a tennager and sexualising your teen daughter? Shouldn't you be concerned with yourself?"
@@Stella-mo8qmomg I know itâs so weird and not funny at all. Like you realize the auditory is full of teenagers which include both your daughters and friends of them as well as parents of the kids, like thatâs just weird
@@00useresu00oh my god is a show, calm down
The differences between Rueâs description of what Cassie went through during puberty vs Lexiâs in the play was what made me realize that this is Lexiâs revenge. Sure she probably didnât see what it was like for Cassie, but the way she treated that particular moment as a joke sealed the deal. A writer would have pondered the possibilities of what Cassie might have struggled with. Lexi treated Cassieâs uncomfortable feelings as a joke.
Damn youâre literally so right, I was trying to think of why this scene rubbed me the wrong way and now I get it. It was so insensitive.
I mean I would say thatâs true but in the actual scene in season one Cassie wasnât actually upset, she was making a joke too
That shows us that everyone has flaws. Even your most favourite person lol
Lexi is making herself the joke here though? I dont think making a play about people without their knowing is very fair in any circumstance, but she literally explains how she has been jealous of her sister and then plays jokes on her own experiences as Cassies sister... I sincerely felt the sister relationship in this, where Lexi showed all of her feelings towards Cassie- Jealousy, admiration, love etc, it wasnt all revenge, I genuinely think she was sincere when she talked to Fez about people liking her play.
The reason why Cassie didnt like the play was because her own self image is shattered. Where Lexi admires her qualities, Cassie hates those same qualities. Lexi wants to feel and be as liberated as she feels Cassie is, while Cassie wants to be innocent and romantic (like Juliet, Romeo and juliet)
Thats how i feel about it anyway.Lexi sees the positives where Cassie sees the negatives
@@sofie6524 yessss!!! I totally agreee!!!!!! Thank you for this!
I canât be the only one who thinks Lexi was way outta line for this. That carousel scene in particular just seemed like she was going out of her way to humiliate Cassie
Agreed
yeah
exactly.. and people are so quick to call cassie a shitty sister when lexi basically told her that her feelings weren't valid whenever she had her pregnancy scare and was concerned about the news showing on her body all bc she was pretty and guys had always wanted her. it definitely came from a place of insecurity i feel.
The reason for the rest of the scenes are debatable but this is pure malice
@@jeonghanism where did she allude to cassieâs pregnancy experience though?
i actually really disliked her play. if i was her sister, and she portrayed me like that in front of the whole school, id feel awful. and to have her mom support it too? even though cassie's done some shit, shes still a kid and doesnt deserve that ridicule. all of them are still kids.
I guess we are all forgetting adults allowed the play to happen, and we are assuming Lexi is to blame and not the lack of attention or concern from adults. Ok
She's not a kid, she's just not a good person and that's it.
They're fake characters man
@@sevengrapes-gi1io bruh weâve all made mistakes and done shitty things, the important thing is that we grow and learn from our mistakes, humiliating your own sister in front of the school, especially when sheâs only a teenager, ainât the way to go about it
agreed and especially the carousel scene, it was so unnecessary
As someone who has big breast being sexualized during puberty does not give one a great self image. Saying "Wow you have big knockers" to a kid who's going through body dysmorphia as a result of puberty changing their entire body seemingly overnight is not a complement. All it does is make things worse.
THIS IS TRUE!!!!
yes I went through the same thing, even though they thought they were helping me feel better about myself, I still struggled with not knowing if ppl could see through my body.
No fr, it's you being a kid and people robbing you of your innocence because you develop curves. There's nothing funny about that. Young girls coming of age into teenagehood isn't easy at all. You have to start dealing with the sexualization from grown ass men, the grooming, the awareness of the mistreatment of your gender, etc.
@@mareesuh7385 đđđMe too it actually made me have major trust issues
yeah being sexualized and objectified doesnât make us feel beautiful at all it does the exact opposite. i felt extremely ugly and ashamed of myself still to this day
Lexi is the type of teen to complain about cellphones to get brownie points with boomers
this reminds me of the Jaden Smith meme
@@pure_heroinne nooooooooo đ
or said that they born in the wrong generation
Excessive cell phone time is terrible Ngl
Lmaooooo
The play is hands down my favourite moment of all of euphoriaâŠLexi is iconic
Idk I just feel like Lexi couldâve addressed some of these thoughts and feelings with her sister before doing a play in front of the whole school. đ€·đœââïž Maybe Iâm just projecting me and my siblings relationship onto this.
That was not iconic, that was way over the line, towards to ye own sister, Cassie could literally kill herself over it.
@@Haven161of course. But sheâs a teenager and they do dumb shit
@@kelseyj.c7828 oh, but when Cassie does âdumb shitâ, thatâs unforgivable, right? :)
@@xxxmaysilssss690 FR
i really liked lexi's play but i felt like it was more of a revenge fantasy? specifically towards her sister, and you can dismiss cassies feelings because of her actions if you want (most people do this anyways) but idk lexi isn't as great as everyone makes her out to be.
If anything it makes lexi's character even more loveable. I personally love how they show her edges
I like Lexi, but I agree, this whole play was kind of disrespectful of her.
@@user-nd8tb4dd8g Not as disrespectful as Cassie has been.
@@heresqueenie does Cassie's actions matter to define this argument? I'm talking solely about Lexi, also, the play was disrespectful not only to Cassie, but also to Nate and Rue, and yes, they have done their own wrongdoings, but I don't see how a school play (which wouldn't even be suitable for a high school audience in real life) is meant to solve or make it up for them.
Let's face it, Lexi needed this for her character development and growth and she got a chance to finally express herself. People deal with trauma in different ways and since being a child Lexi always had to bottle up her feelings and keep quiet. Cassie on the other hand looks for male attention and validation to the point of destroying all her relationships with her friends and family for a guy who is extremely toxic and abusive in pretty much every way possible. Lexi is constantly treated like sh*t by her sister for really no apparent reason and she's often ignored and dismissed by pretty much everyone in her life. Cassie has proven time and time again that she does not care about her or anyone else's feelings and refused to listen to anyone including her mother about Nate and betraying Maddy. Was this a little shady, yes but if Lexi went to her "friends " or her sister to discuss all this she would have been dismissed yet again. Also why should we care about Cassie's feelings when she doesn't care about anyone else's? It also seems to have worked (I hope) when she confesses that Nate broke with her to Maddy in the bathroom. Cassie deserved everything she got including her a** getting beaten just like Nate.
So Lexi ridicules her sister for going through puberty and being sexualized for it? Okay.
So everyone just blames Lexi and no one thinks itâs weird a school faculty let this play happen and adults watched? Okay.
@@msi8311 there's no faculty at this imaginary school girl they don't even carry bookbags đ
How did you not understand a single thing
@@msi8311 Why would I not blame Lexi...she wrote the play..
Yeah, like in this video it's just Cassie being insecure about her body while a teenager and the title is "Cassie's shallow personality"? Ridiculous
Okay, I'm going to call it. I like Lexi. A lot. But what she did wasn't play writing, it was venting. It was a little bit of a revenge. No imagination was involved just unloading. Some people needed it, others not so much. That's what I think.
Edit- I understand vending can be a form of writing, of course, but what I meant is I donât think of it ethical in her case. Usually people that write and expose real individuals and events take permission to tell the story especially when the individuals are still alive. Legally speaking, those teens (and their parents) have a case if they want to take it to court. The school would be in trouble, too, if any school would ever approve such play. I donât say this because I dislike Lexi or anything, itâs facts. Iâm in the industry and know one or two things about such cases. She may have changed their names however, in every other aspect these characters are the same.
Its her telling her life story honestly some plays are just that. But yes a great deal of it was her putting herself as the main character not the viewer
who cares? she ate them up
Couldn't agree more. Gosh, the acting in this series is really good but the writing is just mediocre and all over the place.
yep. nobody likes cassie which means theyâre gonna completely ignore how disrespectful this was to everyone involved. except her - the star, and only actual âgood guyâ in the play. cassie was right - sheâs never lived her life, has been jealous of cassie, and is taking it out on her by humiliating her in front of all their peers. as well as her friends. lexi is kind of a shit person for that.
She's definitely not as great as people say she is
No amount of hate inside me for Cassie will ever let me convince that Lexi did something G on this play. Whole play was so weird and came off as typical boomer vision.
@@so62539 no
Why does everyone put the blame for a school play on Lexi, and not the fucking adults at the school?
@@msi8311 bc lexie wrote it?
Even the mom is presented weird , itâs not even really funny if u think about it happening in real life
exactly
Cassieâs personality isnât shallow. Itâs insecure. Itâs not exactly uncommon for teenage girls.
She's shallow dumb and insecure. She's not just insecure
not justifying her actions, but cassie has been through a lot more shit then lexi can even imagine so I think she actually needs help. this entire play shows lexi's lack of empathy and was nasty af, its ridiculous how lexis "way of expressing herself" is solely based on judging and ridiculing other people.
This isnt the point of Lexi's play. The point of her play was to show the entire shit thats been going on from her point of view. How she feels and how she sees it. It was never to ridicule them, but to express them. as she even said it before, she has good intentions. And you say that cassie has been through more, but lexi has been through just as much as cassie between their dad, her friends and now cassie. It just doesn't seem like shes been through a lot because she remains passive through all of it
She could have achieved her struggles (eg having no chest) without having Cassie dragged.
True
@@resarious6225 did we forget that Cassie saw her boyfriend get SA, she had an abortion, had a side effect of taking Molly manifest in public, had pornography of her be illegally spread to the public despite being underage without her consent, and was SA when she first HU with Nate because she was already drunk before he picked her up, man the list goes on
@@resarious6225 what are the good intensions though???? Could you say the same thing as the caeousel scene? That shot was so unessary and adds 0 depth into anything.
Also, if she so badly wants to express herself, she would find a better way that would help cassie and NOT make her feel even worse and get humiliated even worse.
People who enjoyed Lexi's play and see nothing wrong with it clearly haven't had their personal life aired out for an entire school. Everyone is calling Cassie a pick-me girl (not defending her or denying that), but imagine self-inserting into your own play WITH THE SAME NAME AND SIMILAR PEOPLE. That screams pick me.
As if the school wouldn't have already been calling Cassie a pick me or betrayer before the play while seeing her walk with her bff's ex hand on hand, completely copying Maddy. And let's be honest, through this play she can finally reflect on herself and best part is that abusive Nate broke up with her.
Not really, a pick-me girl is a girl who does EVERYTHING so that people (specificaly boys) will like them, Lexi making the play and self-inserting (as Grace, btw) is the complete opposite of that, she's risking everyone close to her getting mad... and well it seems some of y'all already are lol
@@Emilia-ll3ii There's a reason people close to her are getting mad. It's violating and rude. While she isn't your typical pick-me, she's creating an entire play centered around herself while telling stories that ARE NOT HERS TO TELL, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT CONSENT. (caps aren't directed at you, just trying to make my point)
@@ashistired6456 i get your point, but i think she would fit the "not-like-other-girls" trope better than the "pick-me" one
and as IFF the entire play wasn't about Lexi feeling special for not sexualizing herself in comparison to the other girls and as if she wasnt on her knees for the first guy who looked at her, yet she has the AUDACITY to write this đđ
Lexieâs Play was literally a masterpiece *chefs kiss
@Jaysprincess cry
Of course it would be a guy to say this. You don't know how it is to be a girl going through puberty
@@connaeris8230 cry louder
@@ignacio4389 tf? you gonna keep spamming the comments, defending Lexi for sexualizing her own sister in front of their whole school, and parents, and shaming her for going through puberty?
@@ignacio4389 like, I get that Cassie's a bitch, but so is Lexi, doing that to your own sister is fucked up. why humiliate her as revenge for "not being hot" when you know her nudes have already been seen by like the whole school??
Having Ethan portray Suze, is something I never knew I needed.
I get Cassie is shallow but sheâs also very insecure, Lexie shouldnât of publicly shamed her sister like that
yeah! and even more so, Cassie's sexual tapes have been in the internet without her consent... and then HER SISTER goes and does that shit. humiliating her publicly and and in a school play without her consent. That's fucked up.
@@afrxsh Also as a sibling I canât imagine stooping so low as to publicly humiliate your sibling like that in front of everyone grossly portraying events to make them look bad
@@emma_nutella58 Yeah, it was tasteless. Honestly, to me just completely removed the respect for the character.
@@afrxsh definitely agree with that that was a low blow and that lost me some respect for her character
@@afrxsh good, she shouldn't have been a h*e to begin with đ
Cassie's shallow personality? Has everybody forgot about season 1? You all found her super lovable although she had wrong sides. You could reason her acts with her traumas (not only her losing her father but also her sexual traumas.) She doesn't have a shallow personality she needs help and was supposed to spiral this season. Stop seeing everything in black and white. Also Lexi is not a genius or a saint like most people like to view her so. She didn't do anything creative she invaded other people's lives and judged them as she pleased. She was just venting. If broadcasting the lows of people to everyone is the way of her being able to express herself maybe she shouldn't express herself at all. She could've just talk to Cassie about her feelings. But instead of confronting her she chose to humiliate her. Which is not okay and to me it is pretty similar to what Cassie did to Maddy since they both were doing stuff behind others' backs.
100% agree with this! No one sees that Cassie is actually spiraling and having a mental breakdown. Lexi totally took advantage of the situation. I didnt like Lexi this season at all.
Cassie is a shallow personality. The traumas she has have nothing to do with that, ( also she doesnt have sexual traumas, at least i dont remember anything like that). The struggles she has cant excuse her actions because everyone has struggles in life, literally everyone, so the fact that cassie feels bad the 2nd whole season because she feels guilty about fucking her best friends boyfriend, can hardly be considered a real struggle. And yes lexi did offend many people with her play and it was a bit fucked up, but the only reason you complaining about it is because you have double standards. Lexi who hasnt done anything to offend anyone is totally the villain after a play like that, but if cassie had done it, due to the fact she is already fucked up all would be excused as long as she asked for help... Anyway in my opinion portraying your sister exactly how she is, isnt as bad as fucking your best friends boyfriend
FINNALLY SOMEONE SPITTING FACTS!!
One top comment and all of the sudden everyone has the same opinion as it and everybody calls this episode lexi venting, please. Actually have your own opinion not one you see is popular
"Shallow personality" when it's literally just a teen being body conscious and having average insecurities. Sad
Low key might be an unpopular opinion but Lexi was out of line. I understand that this was a way of expressing herself but to air your friends and familys dirty laundry in front of strangers despite it being on good intentions. It annoys me when she begins to tear up, like did you expect your sister who you are humiliating to just sit there and take it. Doesnât matter that Cassie was choosing to make bad choices, she doesnât deserve to have an entire theater of strangers to laugh at her. The carousel scene was out of line too. Because letâs be honest would you want your sibling to do a play about you that portrays the worst of you?
I 100% agree.
I dont see a good intension behind this whole play, especially at the carousel scene. Thereâs nothing positive about that. Lexie is trying sooooo hard to look innocent but it that was just so mean and unessesary.
yeah i like lexi as well but this was not it. the thing that irks me about her play is the way the show tries to make it seem like lexi had good intentions and that lexi is the victim when cassie tries to ruin her play but honestly what did she expect? especially the carousel scene was so humiliating for cassie.
if lexi had done this as a revenge and we can see her not being remorseful about it then i could accept it because every character in this show has done messed up shit. but lexiâs play was made out to be something that was creative and good when it actually was not which is what annoys me most about the play.
i donât like cassie and i absolutely hate nate but lexiâs play was not it. i donât even know how rue was okay with the play either. it was way too obvious who the play was about as well, literally no subtlety as well, and the play didnât add any new perspective to the viewers either, itâs literally what the audience already knows
I agree not to mention that if none of us had ever seen euphoria and just saw those clips from the play without knowing the real characters before hand it would not make any sense hahaha like It doesnât make sense to me that everybody loved it that much
But I mean her friends ainât shit so isnât her sister her feelings are always being pushed under the rug I do feel bad for Cassie because she felt humiliated but itâs like she doesnât care about anyone.
I feel like this okay was all the way wrong. Cassie was feeling insecure at the time and then her mom sexualized her. How is that Cassieâs fault? I donât get it. Lexi took Cassieâs sexualization as something that was putting Lexi down.
lexi is definitely a ânot like other girlsâ
I thought the point of this scene was that Lexi wanted to be like Cassie but then she saw some of the negative aspects that came with her being sexualized so young (as shown with Cassie falling in love and then crying on her bed).
I'm not saying the play was perfect, obviously anyone has a right to be angry in this scenario, but I don't think Lexi was trying to present her sister in a bad light it just came of like that because well Cassie's life has been a mess since their dad left.
@@rociohernandez3077 how was the carousel scene an alright thing to show tho???
@@hamptaaa i agree that was horrible
Tbh as a viewer of the series I really liked it bc she kept it silent and then chose violence by exposing everyone at the moment they needed it the most after all she clearly started by saying the piece is about their life so eathe4 the others like ut or not we can't blame her for not being frank about her intentions
Honestly idgaf what anyone says Cassie deserved everything she got. Throughout this season Cassie has shown her true colours and has shown that sheâs actually a really bad person that will literally ruin every relationship she has just for the validation of men even though time and time again people have shown her that she needs to live for herself. Cassie is the same girl that literally watched her boyfriend get r@ped and then went to go run her mouth about it only to cheat on him soon after even though it was very obvious that he was experiencing extreme trauma and that would be when he needed her the most and then next thing you know sheâs now sleeping with her best friends ex while she knows all the horrible shit Nate has done to maddy and also knows that theyâre constantly on and off so their breakups are never definite. That and Cassie isnât even a good sister to lexi in the first place. Lexi showed very deep and personal moments about everyone including herself in the play and yall are saying that she purposely made Cassie look bad to embarrass her while in actuality that just how Cassie is in real life which we all see when Cassie walks on the stage and decides to fuck up the whole play. Literally everyone other than the two worst and toxic characters(Nate&Cassie) liked the play.
PERIODT. These people defending Cassie are obviously doing some shitty similar shit to her. But also, if Cassie wants to send out smoke sheâs gunna get it back. Fuck the idea of being nice to family if they are shitty to you.
@@jisoostanpapi9789 exactly like I hate that narrative of âbe nice to your family even if theyâre terrible peopleâ like wtf. Like the fact that Cassie literally made it her mission to ruin her sisters one big night just shows how horrible of a sister she is, Cassie has literally never let Lexi shine like until Cassie got on that stage and started talking shit nobody else whoâs life was in the play got up to protest against it. Maddy and Kat liked the play, Rue loved the play even though it featured very private and personal times from her life, Suze literally adored the play, Cassie and Nate are the only ones that had a problem because the play held a mirror up to them (more specifically Cassie) and showed them how genuinely terrible they are and Lexi is sure as hell not the only one that sees them that way.
Same to me too most of the comments hating on lexi are probably just tiktok crybaby stans who didn't even bother to watch the entire show
@@ryuushi26 yeah cuz the amount of comments under euphoria tiktoks saying âoh I havenât even watched the show this is all Iâve seenâ is genuinely worrying, like bruhđdonât speak on a show havenât watched.
â@@Im_Zion they're just so goddamn pathethic
Lexi wasnât wrong about Cassie, but she was wrong for what she did. Itâs always been clear that they were not at all close (which is quite sad since they are the only siblings in their family and also so close in age), but to embarrass and humiliate them - and HURT them? Purposely, and for your own benefit? I think thatâs kinda messed up.
@Lenny by only siblings it was meant that cassie and lexi don't have any another sister, or a brother
I mean the only siblings in their family. They have a messed up kind of family life so I would e thought they would be close since their dad left and their mom is a drunk, they mostly have eachother.
What she did was definitely messed up, but I can understand why she did it the way she did. She couldnât find any other outlet for her emotions than writing and putting on this play. In every other way she couldâve expressed her thoughts she wouldâve been ignored or talked down to. At least with a huge spectacle like this no one (but Cassie) would willingly interrupt for fear of exposing themselves. It was still fucked up though. Like I donât blame Cassie for her reaction to it either.
remember what was said tho? some people need to get their feelings hurt. itâs not right, but itâs needed
@Lenny either way she still got her feelings hurt đ
Honestly this is really disgusting, idk how can someone just do this to their sibling. I just know i would never do such a thing to my sisters, this is beyond awful and fucked no matter how âshallowâ theyâre. Fix your family shit in private.
It is beyond anything a normal person would do who wants their sinlings to become better people. They would never resort to this level of low
@@sparklingfashion6276 exactly. I donât like Cassie or her actions but like damn Lexi thatâs your own blood youâre talking about in front of the ENTIRE school. Even if Cassie was a bad sister, i think it says something about Lexi too that she would do that to a family member.
honestly i found the play scenes rlly funny in a morbid/second hand embarrassment way but lexi was kind of a shitty person for making it đđđ
YEAH, I have sisters and no matter the disagreement it would never come to this. And the carousel scene, wow. It was appalling. As far as I am concerning that play was one of the most malicious, and vindictive things I've seen play out on television in terms of revenge and manipulation.
@@lanestratarots Aww. I'm so sorry. Make sure to protect yourself, i get it's hard but put you first.
Why can't people admit how shitty the writing of this season is?
Pretty much the only characters that had some justice and consistency to their storylines were Rue and Cal, and who the fuck was asking for MORE Cal?
Or how a school play is the fault of adults who run the school, not a teenager who writes a play?
I wholly agree. And it didnât feel connected to the first season at all either. Theyâre just doing anything now
@@gracekang2161 lmao. Exactly this. Rue was pretty much the only character I was invested in this season. The rest? I felt like I was watching a trashy reality show. Literally no thought put into most of the scenes, the symbolisms of the first season apparently went for a walk. Just, bad all around.
Srsly, the script on season1 was so amazing then it horribly went downhill this season2. I hate everything about it. It seems like the writers want it to be more marketable in younger dumber audience.
Lexi: "Ugh my sister wears dresses, uses makeup and tries so hard to look good, she's so shallow!"
Also Lexi: *wears a dress, is in full makeup and makes an entire play showing how good and better than other people she is*
Lexi is a pick me ,they ruined her character
This is so true, Lexi was one of my favorites because of how much of a good friend she was, and I though she cared about Cassie, but she is so out of reality. She is such a pick me and needs attention as much as Cassie does. They are the same book but written in a different font.@@niraxlevi9930
Difference is Lexi isnât a whore and attention seeking while her sister is
@@robynsmith7314 Lexi's constantly throwing herself over a whole ass drug dealer and made a play with her as the main character bragging about how nice and misunderstood she is, while taking advantage of the private lives of the people she claims to love. She's not any better than her sister
@@Stella-mo8qm she is better than her sister....she's not blonde, she's not a whore. she's a annoying pick me girl that always needs to be the center of attention.
Lexi is clearly in the wrong for this. People just like her and hate Cassie
Actually the school faculty is in the wrong for allowing a student to put on a play like this. That would be the reasonable conclusion.
@@msi8311 anything happens at euphoria high. Do you canât blame them
and what about it?
THANK YOU. If it wasn't for this play Lexi would've been irrelevant and nobody would have cared about her.
@@msi8311 Bold of you to assume the school has responsible adults in charge đ©
Sorry but am I the only one who remembers the (limited) convos between Lexi and Cassie? Lexi asking her a simple question and Cassie treating her rudely and telling her to shut up? Just for one example. Cassie shut her out for the most part and obviously thinks she is better than her. She deserved to be humbled. Idc about the whole "But she's family and you don't treat family like that" f that bs. Being family doesn't excuse poor behavior. Good for Lexie. đ
I donât care that Cassie is Lexiâs family. Telling someone to âshut upâ doesnât mean you get to be sexualised, objectified and humiliated in front of the entire school and have your personal traumas laughed at. Lexi stans are fcking delusional.
you when people with mental illnesses show symptoms of their mental illnesses: đ±
when I had an eating disorder and was at my lowest I was frequently rude to my family because guess what? that's one of the main symptoms of that disorder and many other mental illnesses too. I guess I deserve to be publicly humiliated because of behaving like a mentally ill person does.
Cassie is described as having episodes frequently, so if she is having an episode and someone tries to communicate with her it would make sense if she snapped and acted rude, especially at home or with family members because that's usually when people turn off their masking.
Itâs most likely a mental issue that Cassie has thatâs going undetected, and she hasnât gotten help for yet. Also, donât try to make that as an excuse for why it would be okay for Lexi to humiliate Cassie like thatâŠ.Iâm sure if you had a sister and she did that to you in front of the whole school, youâd be just as pissed.
@@tiamarrow6366 lets not use mental health as a an excuse to treat people poorly đ And for starters if I had a sister, I wouldn't treat her dog doo. Like I said, she got what was coming to her, karma â€
Iâve seen sooo many edited clips of the play. And, I love it! Loved loved loved the play, and how she spoke her truth, but also⊠unpopular opinion she actually brought truth and understanding as to why every character acts the way that they did. Cassie with her abandonment issues due to their dad; Rue with her depression and increased drug use due to her Dadâs death; Maddieâs hidden sweet spirit and vulnerability; and, how the combination of all of these people in her life and how it effected her and how she handles situations.
I just wish someone would make an edit for this episode, and the one before, but strictly just the play scenes.
Um I donât think you quite understand itâŠ..Lexi didnât get permission from any of her friends to make that play about them, and you can tell she didnât because Maddy herself asked âis this fucking play about us?â None of them knew it would be about them. Anyone who has ever written or created a movie, play, musical book, etc whoâs making it about someone elseâs life, would know that they need permission and consent to do so for for legal reasons. Being that theyâre teens in high school aka minors (although the cast in real life are adults) if any of them had gotten offended by the play, legally speaking Lexi and Suze wouldâve been held liable, and wouldâve been sued for emotional damages. Now with Cassie, while she needed to hear how Lexi feltâŠ.Lexi was wrong for how she went about it (she couldâve stayed a home intervention between her, Cassie, and their mom) by portraying Cassie as this self-centered, shallow girl who has this perfect body, but gets insecureâŠ.because Cassie is still a teenager going through understandable insecurities. Lexi attacked Cassie for having gone through puberty much better and faster than her, but thatâs not Cassieâs fault because she never asked to go through puberty that fast or at all, or to even be prettyâŠ..we canât control puberty, and itâs not like Cassie couldâve done anything to help Lexi with her own insecurities other than giving her positive advice. Then Lexi tried to make Cassie seem shallow, and like a horrible sister when from almost all the clips weâve seen of just themâŠ.Cassie was never self-centered and shallow, she was just handling a lot of shut that Lexi wasnât going throughâŠ..but since sheâs older and Lexi is the little sister, of course Lexi would see her that way to be more dramatic.
You're delulu if you think the play is helping anyone, lexi is a snake that hates her own sister so she humiliated her ,that's all
I would feel beyond betrayed. If my sister told her friends anything I told to her in confidence, I would be mad. But sharing it in a play to be be performed in front of the people I go to school with?!
In real life this type of play wouldn't even be shown in theaters (school or not), but to be fair Cassie needed to be humbled so bad
Humbled for what ? You don't humble people like that ,and the play was shaming her for wearing make-up and for literally hitting puberty and then for having sex ,it's sexist and lexi is a pick me , cassie is in desperate need of help ,like seriously, and lexi knows this ,we seen her internal thoughts yet the play didn't highlight cassie's mental issues, it was just ,shame ,shame and shame. Cassie compared to other characters isn't terrible, nate and maddy weren't together and she can't control her feelings and she felt guilty so many times ,she even threw up and apologized, that doesn't look like a bad person to me ,all characters are grey so people acting as if everything is black and white is weird đ
This was so cruel and gross for part of lexi don't tell me that she was telling her story when clearly she was just embarrassing everyone for nonsense
@@sevengrapes-gi1io exactly and she ate
@@sevengrapes-gi1io She included personal and unnecessary experiences of other people's life. Cassie being insecure about her body is not something to ridicule
Like, the carousel scene was sssoooooo uneccessary and i cant seem to find the good intension of adding it into the play where the whole school will see it.
@@lola-ow3tz she ate the floor board and left all the crumbs
âeveryoneâ she just embarrassed nate and cassie as they deserved lol
Not people defending Lexi bullying her sister infront of an audience. Cassie f'd up by being with Nate, but for Lexi to s3xually harass her own sister in public for revenge makes her wicked and vile scum.
I wish they made it look like an actual school play not a fucking Broadway production
Everything is very extra in this series so I'm not suprised
if they did, ppl would be complaining it looks low budget. sheesh be content
@@asiong2752 right tho but anyways
@@thepharmastudy and if it wasn't extra I bet you'd be one of those ppl who'd complain it's boring đŽ
I mean some school plays look amazing. Like that school that adapted the movie Alien.
The way they rip through Cassie out of pure jealously Is difficult and heartbreaking đ
Lexi wrote a play about everyone elses life tryna shame them because she knows no one would be interested in any play about her non existent life đ
Unpopular opinion Lexi did what she needed to do to feel heard, and she didn't lie so IM confused how any one could sue her?
Lol wat u talking about nobody suing her??
To feel heard?? She is degrading her own sister infront of the whole high school
@@Sam-0827 It can only be defamation if she intentionally said her name or purposely said or wrote her "character" in a way that was 100% false. So her writing her in a play based on hernopnuon/experience of her sister wouldn't technically fall into there
@@Ashbrash1998 oh ok thank you for clarifying, that's actually good to know
@@Akai704 sheâs not degrading Cassie, thatâs just how Cassie is, sheâs shitty. Everyone else loved the play even though lexi talked about all of them other than Nate and Cassie, the shittiest people in season 2
I found the play so cringe, Iâm not sure if it was just me. Because it wasnât that much about Lexi, sheâs more of a spectator on the whole thing. Sheâs telling other peoples stories - without their consent, and not even putting any of them in a good light. If itâs about you I get it, but it really just isnât.
Honestly ,Lexi s play was just an exposure of other people s stories and some badass roasting about them as people while she puts herself in the pedestrial(ok she kinda roasts herself but that is not enough comparing and contrasting what she said about others.) The play she wrote was for the trashcan and yet it was allowed to get on stage
Exactly like who told her it was okay, who gave her the permission? Thats not her story. Especially how she says she has good intensions-- but what are the good intensions? there isvnothing positive about the carousal scene. Her intension is to HUMILIATE CASSIE and yet she has the audacity to say that cassie might âtake it in the wrong wayâ how else would she take it????
@@sparklingfashion6276 exactly, sheâs slut shaming her own sister and has the audacity to act all oblivious to it.
@@sparklingfashion6276 exactly! like you are outing cassie and all her private business for people to LAUGH at, how in the world is it supposed to help her?
That's the point though.. You nailed it!
Lexi always was the spectator with this group..the play was showing everyone what she saw.. Its all from her perspective. Id would COMPLETELY agree it was bad on her part.. IF she didn't change names... The only ppl who knew what and who it was about were the actual ppl it was about.. That is... Until Cassie got up and exposed it was about them. Why? Because a lot of it was personal so no one in the school would know what rue and lexi talked about in her room. Or that maddy stayed with cassie and lexi.
The audience was even shown to be confused that cassie getting up there wasn't part of the play.
this just makes me feel even worse for cassie tbh. imagine being objectified and sexualized your whole life, used for your body, losing your dad to drugs, having all the boys at your school share your nudes and nonconsensual/coerced sex tapes, slut-shamed, developing daddy issues and your own sister calls you shallow in front of your whole school because of your daddy issues. cassie may be a bad sister but lexi isnât all that either, sheâs just quieter about it.
Exactly, lexi is worse ,cassie's life summarizes everything that happens to women in real life too ,like women are expected to be great at bed but no have a low body count , dress good but don't cover too much and show skin at the same time or you're not feminine enough, be used by men and it's okay but god forbid you do the same ...etc cassie is conflicted just like a normal woman and she needs help and lexi knows this yet she wanted to hurt cassie
agree, lexi has a very shallow view of her sister. and she thinks the fact that shes too cowardly to do anything for most of the show actually makes her really deep or something
I lover her for this even more xDD
How is revealing somebody else's whole life into a play can be called 'artistry''? And why is the mom like that? She knows she's portrayed in the play but does not notice how her daughter's whole life including her trauma was there and is being mocked by her other daughter...
The mother doesn't give a shit for her oldest daughter.
Right the play easily could have been a diss to the mom as I'm sure growing up with an alcoholic mom is one of the main reasons Lexi is the way she is so I don't know why she's cheering for her broken family. Actually, it would have made more sense if the play revolved around her parents but she chose to resent her sister for how she coped with her childhood instead of attacking the source.
suze is not a good mom at all and i wish people could see that lol
Mom is kinda dumb from all the alcohol in her brain lol
Its a play. No one knew that it was about them until cassie went up the stage.
I can't see any good intentions behind this play. What's wrong with you Lexi, that was disgusting
I agree with you. That frustrated me
You mean whatâs wrong with the adults who let this be a school play
Lexi wanted them to reflect on themselves. And everyone of them needed that.
@@sagunrai8689 is humiliation necessary? Hm?
@@pieckfinger7169 Except for that carousel scene, yes. You think all of these are the type of people who will reflect on their actions just with some normal intervention? Humiliation is needed.
All of yâall in this comment section donât realize sometimes people need a wake up call. Even if it âhumiliatesâ that person, some people need to have their asses handed to them. Honestly even Lexi learned some lessons in this play, in my opinion everyone needed this play to happen.
While that may be trueâŠ.creating all of that into a play and then putting it all on blast for a large crowd of people, basically strangers who donât know you to seeâŠ.not okay at all. They couldâve literally done an intervention at home, but Lexi chose to humiliate pretty much all of her friends in a play which in case you didnât knowâŠ.If youâre creating a play like that, and youâre using real-life events or issues that actual people have gone through, you need permission and consent from those people and if you donât get it, and you go along with your play but you also make some very messed up comments and judgments towards the charactersâŠ.youâre 100% in the wrong at that point.
In real life if you did this, youâd get disowned because doing this is not to give someone a wake up call but a malicious disgusting revenge fantasy. Honestly, this just showed me that Lexi is as bad as Cassie. A classless bitch who has no problem throwing others under a bus to make herself look better.
i mean that doesn't really change anything about how not okay it is. It actually makes it a little worse because this isn't Lexi hurting Cassie on accident, this was Lexi realizing she could hurt Cassie by doing this, then deciding that she deserves it
id kms if lexi did that to me, a hannah baker move with the tapes as well lmao
This is gonna cause someone to suicide, this is not how you help someone, public humiliation rarely helps
People hating on lexi for this but did they see how Cassie would body shame her and make everything about her?
But what she did was wrong and disgusting although it's just a show and it was fun
right, and taking that issue to an auditorium full of people is a pussy move lol. I like Lexi and even relate, but she was dumb as hell for this.
telling her that her books won't grow anymore is not bodyshaming her get a grip.
Nothing justifies what lexi did , lexi acted like a pick me , she shamed her sister PUBLICLY you don't do that ,that's bullying that can lead to suicide and self destruction, public humiliation rarely helps one's character statically speaking
â@@celestinoclemente1954 Cassie, is that you?
Why do i feel like Lexi is those authors who self-insert themselves as the main character in every novel.
Ethan absolutely killed the characters he played
if you think you're stupid, just remember there are people out there who defend Lexi's actions
Exactly
And there people who just don't believe karma is realđ€Łwho tf defending her actions? No what we doing is saying nun wrong with her finally showing these assholes how fuking vile they are if I put a mirror in front of u and u hate me for that UR THE PROBLEM đ€Łđ€ŠđŸââïž
Translation:"Whoever disagrees with me is stupidđ€Ą"
To be honest all this just seems like jealousy and venting more than Lexi trying to show "everyone their mistakes"
I mean aside from sexualisation, abuse, nude leaking she went through an abortion so your thought process shouldn't be "You know what she REALLY needs in her life to stop making mistakes? Public humiliation!". People justify this type of shit because they love living through shallow, one sided revenge fantasy.
@@Sara-jy5oi literally exactly what I thought, I don't excuse her, but this was definitely not the way to do it
I agree with Nate (never thought I would say that), there is a fine line between being satiric and mocking. Lexi had no right possibly outing Nate's sexuality, that entire part felt homophobic. You don't just put people's lives without their consent. This show is about traumas, but the way the show portrayed this play in a positive way bothers me.
ok i can see the point with how wrong it was to tell everyone else's story but nate 100% deserved to be mocked and ridiculed for all the bad shit he's done.
@@quietstream8206 ^ ding ding ding! He is the only person who I could not care less if his feelings got hurt. And God knows that part of the play actually slaps.
@@quietstream8206 nobody deserves to be outed tho, like find another way to make fun of him instead of that
@@kween5600 im sorry but if you out other people and use slurs repeatedly and then get outed yourself thats legit karma. thats like saying its not ok to out homophobic politicians, like who cares if you're suddenly made fun of when you make fun of people all the time?
Also he was never mad about the play 'outing' him he was mad that it made him look like gay in his eyes.
@@quietstream8206 We will agree to disagree then, no matter what, it's no one's place to out someone's sexuality. I could care less about what happens to him, but I simply can't support Lexi here.
Lexi is just really admitted to the world she is the most insecure person and yet jealous of her sisterâs body. Honestly if my sister did this to me, I would beat her up.
On God. Lexi isn't innocent and definitely NoT LiKe OthER GiRlS. She just lives vicariously through others and gets mad about it. If my sister did that to me, I would beat the shit out of her.
Oh, you sound tough. You and your mate.
Not you being overly sensitive and then calling a fictional character insecure
@@brunettezprettyr4296 maybe if my sister acting a fool 24/7 and belittle me every chance she got I'd get back at her like this too lol
@@Kaastengels idk I didn't really watch the show
Lexi is no saint, she had her own biases just like everybody else. That carousel scene was just over the top tho. Because who REALLY wants a bad drug trip to be shared with other people, especially when they're so vulnerable in that moment and aren't fully in control anymore?
WowâŠNate smirkedâŠSome bf you got there, Cassie..
Yup even maddie was not vibing with it, yet she's the one who should hate Cassie the most
time stamp?
And this is a person who she destroyed her relationship for, good choice cassie
i think that's just his face
I mean like Lexi said, Nate spent years making fun of Cassie before she "fell in love" with him lmao
Cassie was litteraly shamed/sexualized so much for her body. Her n*des were leaked several times against her consent. Lexi's play fails to show any nuance besides making cassie the vilain and Lexi the good guy.
Exactly, sexism and misogyny at it's finest, women aren't considered human beings and lexi proved that ,she knows cassie has issues yet she hurt her like that
Dang, Lexiâs a great play writer đ đ
đđ she's not creative, she just told her life story ,sorry ,cassie's lifestory
My sister is very much alike with Cassie and I am actually into theater and writing... and I would never make a play about her or her sexuality or anyrhing in general. Its insane how this show normalizes sex in teenagers and makes Lexi look like she was great when this is disgusting
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I think, the only problem with the play was cassie on the carosel. like that's it. everything else didn't seem like it was too invasive. This are all based on real events but it was interesting to see lexi play between the extreme ridiculous behavior and imagination vs the moments bringing humanity back to the same people she was writing about. This is the ay they behaved, both good and bad, and she included a lot of stuff that effected her in ways that her "friends" didn't think that it could. And like for rue it makes people look at them selves in a different light. Like the show case with nates character and the locker room scene also could be pointed out as problematic but the thing is its commenting on toxic masculinity clearly present in the school, especially with Nate who she saw often and heard about because of Maddie. Cassie's carosel thing was wrong in the scene it kind of put her in the same position and light as the rest of the guys in Cassie's life do, with the videos and pictures they would take of her and of them forcing her to do things she was uncomfortable with. But I also don't know what would have happened if we let the scene play out with lexis commentary. We've scene lexi do this with Maddie in the play, showing what the world saw maddie being vs how she saw her irl. I'm gonna be honest, my assumption now is that the carosel scene was supposed to be lexi commenting on how she initially saw her sister as being, especially considering the comments she could have heard in school, from her boyfriends, and possibly knowing about the videos and pictures. And how she knew that wasn't true, it was a warped version. I do wish, that she talked to cassie about it tho for obvious reasons.
I do think it was messed up to include the carousel scene but the thing is is that cassie did that shit publicly. like everyone knew about it so itâs not like she exposed cassie or something. iâm not defending lexi completely bc I definitely think she shouldâve at least told them they were going to be in it but with that specific moment, the whole school already knew. but there were moments lexi didnât need to include at all.
I have to admit i was really here for the play, but that scene with cassie on the horse was a line that should not have been crossed
Yeah, no. Using people's lives for an "inspiration" without their consent and airing it in front of the place they spend most of their lives in is unjustifiable. Imagine *your sister* doing that shit to you - revealing your deepest traumas and darkest moments for some applause. Even if her intentions were pure, it's a horrific act. The potential positives do not outweigh the negatives at all and I wouldn't be surprised if there's someone who would commit unlive after something like that came up at their school. Especially that they're troubled in the first place.
@@anjieeee shit she did publicly....while drugged
the invasion of privacy alone is already too much. the fact that she didn't know. that's already it.
The fact that everyone was able to laugh at themselves except for these two(Cassie and Nate) tells a lot.
Yeah no. People who didn't subject to a play and didnt like it don't have to laugh
@@thesevenkingswelove9554 oh absolutely, they donât have to laugh. But throwing up a tantrum after a little roast seems incredibly immature.
@@leahorgana honestly I think it was justified why Cassie was mad because no one likes to see themselves in a play where the character portraying you is doing inappropriate things you want to forget. With Nate he can fk off honestly, it was kinda hilarious when he called that homophobic because it was not
@@thesevenkingswelove9554 agree. Honestly, I think it was insensitive of Lexi to do this to her own sister. Out of all people she knows what Cassieâs been through, she shouldâve been more considerate of her feelings. But Cassie made the situation worse and embarrassed herself with her reaction even more.
Maddy didn't laugh too
Also Cassie didnât even seem to mind. She got mad when Lexieâs play started to call out Nate and Nate got mad, told Cassie to get her things out of his house. So she blames Lexi.
I dont even know how this is considered a school play tbh
I agree with you
Thank you. Found the comment with common fucking sense.
I had a worse school play in my school and it is considered as elite school.There was like imitation of threesome in it
I think Lexie is the worst because she did it in front of everyone and then had the guts to play the victim. One thing is to fight at home or in front of some friends but this is school and their mother is sick for letting this happen.
nah bro im a loser same as lexi and i would never write a two hours play to embarrass someone i am jealous of, thats so pathetic lmfao
Lexi could've shared the spotlight with Cassie but she was too afraid. So, she lived in her shadow instead and blamed Cassie for hogging the light, even though there was room for both of them.
irl, this kinda shit can easily turn into traumatic experience lasting over a lifetime. this shit ain't no G
Lexi wrote this play before knowing about Cassie being a terrible friend sleeping with Nate. A lot of people support the play because of those terrible actions Cassie committed, and she deserves to be âexposedâ. But that wasnât Lexiâs intention, she was going to expose and make fun of her sister regardless if Cassie was sleeping with Nate or not.
Lexi isnât great for this but all the characters on this show is flawed so itâs okay. Yâall just accept that Lexi wasnât completely in the right but you can still like her. Stop being blind and saying sheâs amazing for this play cause she ainât. Sheâs a terrible sister and Cassie is a terrible friend.
I mean looking at cassie's guilt ,she's not a terrible friend a terrible friend won't feel guilt for that
nahh i hate her as much as cassie
This title is so misleading. Why are people hating on her? It's a well-produced show with some one-liners that are actually funny. It takes a lot for someone as quiet as her to be on stage, express yourself while the spotlight is on you in front of many people, and actually be able to make them laugh. It's a vulnerable situation, and it brings so much relief when people are actually impressed.
And if your argument is about Cassie's feelings, I think she's been babied enough so far without being called out. People have tried to verbally make her understand, but that obviously doesn't work. I'm not saying the point of this play was to make Cassie realize her mistake. This play is Lexi's story and how people around her affected her, what she saw from her eyes; the bit about Cassie is just a part of it, albeit a big part because that's how Lexi grew up, being overshadowed by her sister. Can't judge the whole play because of the presentation of ONE character.
She can be called out without that happening publicly,nothing you say will make this okay ,the play was misogynistic and sexist, lexi is my favorite character but that doesn't mean i can't be objective, public humiliation leads to suicide and self destruction, it doesn't help at all
But the problem is how "her story" revolved around other people and showing their mistakes, also she didnât have any consent over the play and nobody (maybe rue) knew about it, Iâm not saying people should hate Lexi but writing a play about real people without their consent and showing all the humiliating moments in their lifeâs is so wrong
Also is she wanted to call Cassie out she should have done it at home, not in front of strangers who know nothing about you and are going to be judging you for this
i cant hate enough lexi for this, if lexi was my sister i would literally get violent
Yâall realize you can love Lexi and still disapprove of the play, right?
Like she didnât even *try* to hide who the people her play was based after were. With the exception of the name changes of every character except her, it wouldnât be hard at all for the student body to figure out who the characters were based off of. And since she made her sister essentially a caricature of herself, itâs only going to be harder for Cassie to be able find a support system to get out of her abusive relationship with Nate.
People (specifically men) already see Cassie as some hyper-concupiscent whore. I doubt the carousel scene in the play will do anything to help that view.
And even though Rue approved of the play as a whole and thought it was beautiful, it doesnât suddenly mean that Lexi wasnât *way* out of line for including the scenes about Rueâs life, specifically the ones about her father and his passing. At the very least, she should have asked for Rueâs permission to include it in the play.
I feel like all of the characters were flawed, both on the giving and receiving end of bad behaviour. This is good writing.
@@lordfreerealestate8302 the problem is that the show call out everyone, except lexi. They treat the plah like if it's some kind of therapy
@@bgos4727 100% Lexi is far from innocent after this and has lack of empathy and seems to take the innocent road. She hid while her sister delt with the dad and gaslit the shit out of Cassie during the whole Nate thing. And after this? I was like âwho does she think she is?â
It felt incredibly unrealistic that Rue would have been so cool about the play. Like, sheâs not even *conflicted* about the fact that one of her best friends ripped off her Dadâs death to make her play more interesting?
I think out of everyone, Rue knew the most about the play since there is a sequence of her talking about the play and talking with Lexi about it. So she probably knew her dad and his death was gonna be mentioned in the play
It's awful to have Lexi as your sister
Lexi is one of those girls that thinks everyone has to deal with trauma the way she does, sadly Sam made her a big time pick me girl
Oh no not a pick me girl! How ever will a fictional character recover from such an insult đ„ș
You know that this show is age restricted for reason?Go tell your momma you watched it she ainât gonna be happy cause your brain needs to grow still
@@kokokoka1131 pick me pick me
@@kokokoka1131 cringe lol go away
@@kokokoka1131 so mad and for what lmao
Honestly I donât think Cassie is a bad person or a villain. Sheâs just numb and acting on any type of emotion instead of thinking things through .In other cases I think Lexi is diabolical. She literally is making a play about peoples mistakes and insecurities to make herself feel better when sheâs clearly insecure. Iâd be pissed and Iâd never humiliate my sister like that.
Agreed. Iâm tired of the Cassie hate, sure sheâs making mistakes but sheâs a kid
exactly. i thing everyone forgot that cassie's still young, and every single human makes mistakes
I mean she is a villain in the whole Nate situation, but not THE villain.
@@strgirl4195 yes exactly!!!!! Lexi is awful. A terrible person with a victim complex
the fact that some ppl irl applaud this play goes to show how some of the watchers live in a bubble
Their high school has a huge arts budget
If Cassie didn't cheat on Maddie by going to Nate ppl would have been against Lexi for putting up a show against her sister!! And self proclaiming herself smart n informed god
Why was no one against the school faculty for letting a teenager make a play like this?
@@msi8311 bc itâs not important
@@msi8311 because the show forgets that they even go to school constantly
When exactly did Cassie ever claim herself to be a smart and informed god? She never said that about herself, but you said it about her which technically is a compliment to her. AlsoâŠ.you got the first part of your comment all mixed upâŠ.Cassie didnât cheat on Maddy, and technically Nate didnât cheat on Maddy because Maddy and Nate had already broken up, and it was literally discussed in the scene where Nate and Cassie are talking outside of the store. You need to get some of your facts straight.
Lexi's play didn't make fun of Cassie shallowness. That just this dull and insecure generations interpretation of it. She's talking about how she wants to be like her. Lexi is admitting to being superficial herself. The meaning of the play was so much deeper than what the Doo Doo brains got from it. đ€Ł
Nah this snowflakes in comments are all just bunch of 14 years old kids with no experience of real life
"the meaning of the play was so much deeper tha what the doo doo brains got from it" đ€âđ»
girl stfu its euphoria, the writer can barely finish a consistent episode i guarantee you theres not a single exclusive intelectual metaphor only certain people can get damn sit down ahahhdiwhđđ
it seems meta in a way that favors her. she calls out how more superficial her sister is then her, so in comparison she will always look less superficial compared to her sister. Also the fact she exposes herself and calls out her bad traits makes her seem less shallow and vain. Also the audience sympathize with her and sees her as relatable because she is the one narrating . Not only does she dirty her sisters reputation but she builds up her own. Clearly she is semi aware of what the audience is going to think, because she refers to the audience during the play. She has the audience perception around her finger and she knows it.
@@ajsan5841 wrong. You're just another doo doo head sadly.
If i had a sister like that i would never allow her to be in my funeral
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Can we talk about Suze just loving being played as a drunk by a male. đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł she is a mood
The way no one thinks Lexy is a horrible sister for this
Not even Maddy liked what was going on and she had every right to like it.
The mom is the problem. Sheâs just laughing at her daughter disrespecting peopleâs privacy including someoneâs past drug abuse without their consent (Lexi had no way of knowing that wouldnât trigger Rue) then the mom is confused when Cassie has a breakdown. Did she just expect her to sit there and take it? So messed up.
I think Suze is 100% the reason for why Cassie hasnât learned from her own mistakes. We never went deep into the whole character of Suze, and as a parentâŠ.youâre supposed to teach your kids right from wrong, as well as how to own up to their mistakes and not make them again. Suze never did that with Cassie, matter fact she shamed her for sleeping with Nate. With Lexi, since sheâs the younger sibling, sheâs way more shelteredâŠ.but with Cassie, itâs like Suze stopped caring for her. Maybe part of the reason for why Cassie does what she does, isnât just having been abandoned by her father and being sexualized a young ageâŠ.maybe her mom did some things in her past that Cassie took note of, and started copying and Suze either never fully noticed until it was too late, or she did notice, but didnât care.
as everyone in the comments is focusing on whether lexi or cassie is in the wrong, i think the mom deserves a lot more flack than she gets. She sees her own daughter going to a mental breakdown and instead of helping her says "I don't care I just want to see my show" and "that girl needs an exorcist". Don't remember a lot from the first season but she's never been a great support to her either. Even when she goes to calm the situation on the stage, she doesn't do anything to comfort her daughter nor does she do anything when she's literally being chased by a girl that wants to beat her up. She also let Cal in her house and let him interrogate and intimidate her daughters and threaten to take their phones and read all of their private messages. She's a pretty bad mother and she's probably one of the contributing factors to cassie's behavior.
Yâall hate Cassie so much that yâall are excusing this sick shitđ„Ž Lexi isnât a vibe this isnât cute or funny.
Right, they're all praising Lexi for this play but they know damn well if they were the ones being talked about in the play they'd be embarrassed and mad asf đđ€Ł
Exactly lol
regardless of what cassie did its not lexiâs place to make fun of her like that
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Yâall are the same ones who excuse Cassie horrible actions
Okay so she roasts I think everyone in her play, especially Cassie and Nat, but does she also go after herself? Befusse even if everything she says is true, if she doesnât also roast herself and puts herself on this pedestal, then thatâs messed up
Actually, she does roast herself đ she admits wanting to be like Cassie but puberty didnt hit her that hard.
@@jeringatai3156 exactly! ppl acting like the WHOLE play she was bashing her or sumn
she did make fun of herself. She was making fun of how unattractive and dull she always seemed to be because puberty didnât hit her as hard as she wished for
Thatâs not even a roast. Itâs a little self derogatory, the acknowledging that she never was conventionally attractive like her sister, but saying so while presenting Cassie as a literal angel who canât see how good she looks is just to poke fun at Cassie for being a self centred dumb blond, not mock herself for wanting to turn pretty too. At best itâs pandering for pity.
@@jeringatai3156 yea while publicly humiliating everyone about their past actions and whole adolescence, I think saying "oh man I didn't have a glow up" isn't as much of a roast as she did with others...
There was a play at my high school where the writer (female) basically did the same thing Lexi did to her sister and friends literally using actors that look very similar like her sister and her 3 friends and used their real names and didnât get their permission and her drama teacher (female) also had no knowledge of this she thought this whole play was fiction but like Lexi sheâs not creative, all 4 of them were very pissed off when they realized who the characters were and the judgements she made about them and talking about their personal issues to the whole school, so they went to the teacher and told her that she didnât get their permission and is exposing personal secrets, issues and making a fool out of them so she ended the play immediately, the teacher and principal kicked her out of drama class, and all her friends sued her they were so done with her and her sister who was quite good was more upset than pissed that her own sister did that to her. some students felt satisfied about the people she made fun of but still just about everyone and myself felt she did them so wrong and didnât understand why she would do that if they were her friends? just like that time I think Lexi did them wrong especially Cassie by not asking her friends to talk about their personal issues and secrets to the school, if this show were to be real Lexi would not get away that easily she should get some bad karma by whoever and however
The problem with Lexi making this play about Cassie is that she pretends she didn't. If you're calling her out, just do it.
I empathized with Lexi up until the play. She really shocked me with her lack of insight and disloyalty. She became a total âpick meâ. And âIâm not like other girls.â Just gross.
Sibling rivalry is something but this was just disgusting, and the worst is that their mother was fully with Lexie to make fun of her other daughter traumatism... Cassie's whole family is a mess, no wonder why she's so messed up inside
I think this is such an interesting scene that tells so much about Lexi and how she sees the world around her. She shows Cassie and Suze in the same vein - both as comical figures, caricatures of themselves and their worst behaviors. Lexi is portrayed as the only sane member of her family, because thatâs how she feels in real life. Suze isnât that much of a sloppy drunk and Cassie isnât that much of a bimbo, but sometimes it probably really does feel like it to Lexi who is constantly caught up in their drama. Sheâs grown up in an incredibly dysfunctional household, caught between these two women who are spinning out on their additions - for Suze, itâs alcohol, for Cassie, men. Cassieâs promiscuity has 100% affected the dynamics of the household and Lexi has been dragged in to deal with her emotional turmoil often. Having a sibling with major emotional problems can be an incredibly caustic situation, especially when the adult that should be taking care of everything would rather be a âbest friendâ than a parent. IMO, showing Cassie and Suze both as these comical exaggerations of themselves shows that Lexi is associating their behaviors together in her mind - i.e., Cassieâs perpetual drama and chaos have effected Lexi in the same way as Suzeâs drinking and âcool momâ neglect.
Was the play messy? Yes. But Lexi is sixteen. Sheâs a child who has grown up in a messy, chaotic home, watching every person that she cares about fall apart and chose men/drugs/alcohol over everything else. The play is the first time that she has been able to have give a voice to her pain and her feelings about her family and their dynamic. Iâm not going to vilify her for choosing to create caricatures of the two people who made her feel the most unstable and neglected as a way of dealing with that pain.
Even though her intentions might be good, she still put a play of real people without their consent, and she even made fun of the people there (Cassie being sexualized while growing up)
I get that she wanted to express her feelings but she could done at home or atleast not in a public place, and her being 16 is no excuse, she should know better (and if we are going to be using that then we have to use it for everyone)
Villains or not, anyone would be pissed to be called out so publicly and obscenely
This whole play gives âIâm not like other girlsâ vibes and WHY ARE YALL JUST NOW REALIZING THIS PLAY WAS WEIRD đ
i love the momâs reaction đ đ
Is it Cassie's "shallow personality" or just Cassie's average insecurities?...
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LiterallyâŠâŠI knew so many girls in high school who were exactly like Cassie but obviously not as dramatic since Euphoria is a show, but I personally knew so many girls just like her who acted out of impulse, dressed up for guys who didnât like or care for them, the whole 9 yardsâŠ..
Cassie was a mess and sort of annoying this season, but what Lexi did was totally uncalled for and absolutely evil. She did that to her own sister, thatâs so low. Everyone else except Cassie and Nate, which Iâm fine with Nate being made fun of, was shown in a good light. She even put one of Cassieâs most embarrassing moments and hyped it way up than what it was. She was just trying to get revenge, and I also think she has always just been jealous of her sister.
As a theatre kid this is the one and only most unrealistic depiction of a school play in the history of all time. No way would this script ever fly, THE BUDGET FOR THE SET PEICES DEAR LORD
Lexi proved here that even the "nice and quiet" types have the mean girl tendencies within them, too, as long as they're given permission and the proper outlet to vent those feelings.
Can we all just take a moment and realise that this play isnât about Cassie. Itâs about Lexi, her struggles and how she experienced things through childhood. We get a play about Lexi, and still manage to make it about Cassie. Also if it were Cassie writing the play, she would be ridiculing Lexi for âhaving no lifeâ and you all know it. I feel like weâre proving Lexiâs point, Cassie is still getting more attention than Lexi even when the show isnât about Cassie. We should be talking about Lexiâs struggles and think to ourselves âdamn, Lexiâs such a smart young woman whoâs hurting inside and turning it into comedy. This is a really good play.â And instead weâre talking about Cassie for the one hundredth time, itâs getting repetitive and annoying. This all just proves that Lexi is a severely underrated character.
Thatâs lexisâs own fault for deciding to humiliate her sister in a play. She gives such a huge presence to Cassie in her brain and now itâs in the play. Obviously, the most controversial part and biggest part of the play will be all anybody talks about.
Sweetie half of the play Lexi was shaming CassieâŠ..if Lexi truly made the play about herself, she wouldnât have included those parts about Cassie and her friends at all, or she wouldâve put them in but only as minor parts that were barely there, and just focused on herself. We made it about Cassie? So when Lexi had âHalleâ come down from the ceiling dressed as angel acting as Cassie, and then having her get sexualized by the guy playing SuzeâŠ..that wasnât Lexi making it about Cassie? I think you need to watch it again because if you truly pay attention to it, Lexi mainly focused on her friendsâ issues not her own, and only like 2-3 parts of the play were specifically about her while the rest was about everyone else and then Cassie.