I picked up a Gold Magic spiral wheel cheaply and it does have the hand cranking option but I need to order the proper sized belt to make that part work. It does catch the fine flour gold too. It found some (tiny amount) in the leftovers which I had already panned by hand. So, it's better than I am. It was hard to find the right sized tote to run at the proper angle but I finally found one online cheaply which allowed to use the thing at a 50 degree angle, (not quite 45, but close enough). Don't know how well it would process beach sand but will give it a shot one of these days. It does a great job capturing black sand.
Great video. We have the same equipment problem here in California. So I built a giant funnel that goes down to half inch hose and use the hydrolic pressure to run my highbanker. No moving parts.
Thanks for spreading the word, it's getting crazy these days even to micro mine. I really enjoy how much information is in your content. Thanks for what you do!⛏🤠👍
If you send an email to ecology requesting info on how to apply for an NPDES permit...OR A LETTER STATING THAT NO PERMIT IS REQUIRED...they will give you the letter. PROVIDED, no chemicals...ie jet dry...and no discharge DIRECTLY to "state waters". That will suffice for your HPA application.
I heard that there is a market for the beach black sand from Washington . : Tatara is a traditional furnace used for smelting iron and steel. In this clay vessel, a charcoal fire is started and, over the next few days, several layers of charcoal and iron sand are added. When the furnace cools down, the clay tube is broken and what remains at the bottom is steel bloom known as kera. If kera is large enough and if the craftsmen maintained the correct temperature, it contains a small amount of bright silvery alloy called tamahagane (which translates into “round and precious steel like a gem.
Beach of gold! Heck yeah man, at least we know it's there right? Thats the way to do it. Gold cube at home is a great processing station method. Cool video
Good news everyone!! Got my hpa for Cape Dissapointment APPROVED today!! It is possible. See my previous comment. Only trouble I had at all was getting Ecology to communicate. Once I accomplished that it was smooth sailing. Good luck and heavy pans everyone!!
So with the extension of the jetty a lot of blonde sand has built up on the beach. So you have to dig down pretty deep and even further to get to the good lawyers. So basically we have to wait for the jetty to be completed and then we need a lot of big storms over multiple years to get the conditions that we had when we were getting up to a quarter gram per 5 gallon bucket. But is it worth going down there right now to get some sand to take home and play with yes it is worth it. It’s just not profitable like it used to be. But I will be getting my HPA permit so I can run on the beach again.
@@josephbieberly8624 I can't honestly say. Didn't prospect there before so no way to compare. And right now I'm doing my prospecting up on Seaview Beach since I don't have a cart yet to haul all of my equipment and water from the parking lot to the beach. At Seaview Beach I can just drive to my work site and setup right out of the back of my truck.
That would tickle me to death ;) They have reserved the entire beach for you!! Find yourself an orange road cone and a high volumn bilge hand pump. Turn the road cone upside down (make a stand for it) and fit an inch or inch and a quarter pvc pipe in the bottom about 2 inches inside and hook your bilge pump to the bottom. When you pump you will create a pulse up into the cone, starting from that 2 inches of pvc, holding the heavys and tossing out the lighter black sand over the top. Then you need a seat and 4 or 5 buckets of black sand and pump with your left and feed with your right. Every 4 buckets, stop and rest and take that concentrated black sand home from the cone. 4 buckets of that concentrate and you will be back in the beach mining business!!!! I would suggest your take will increase as you can concentrate faster than with a battery pump!! Pulse jets work very well!!! 2 people can really do well as one can pump and the other feed the cone. Screw the politicians!!!!!
My hunch is that it's more about overzealous environmentalism where the karen / nanny types think having any fun must surely be destroying something. We have some extreme types in the NW. No amount of logic or explanation will work on them but you can bet they will be the first ones doing something stupid when they go camping in their expensive and fancy motorhomes.
The state definitely put the brakes on hard . It is a shame Thay couldn't have just informed the existing regulations . I hate digging a big hole and not being able to suck off the bottoms leaves me not wanting to go out as much . I still have dredges but not a lot of hope. The regs were thought-out and if followed Thay made the impact next to none . Thanks for the vids. I never made it out to the beach but I have heard some stories of success and some of people not following the gold and fish pamphlet
Just concentrate the sand before putting it in the bucket. Could use a large gold pan or a hand rocker for that and put two or three buckets in one. Been thinking about working the beach this year with a Micro washplant I've designed around the rockerbox design of seperation through specific gravity. Also I need to ask if you have seen the ribbons of gold on the beach. As if you look at the sand with the sun infrount you and low 9n the hurision. You can see them only then. But only on a reseeding tide right where the waves can't reach no more. And it only last a little while until the sand dries a bit and shifts the surface as it settles so then it can't be seen no more. But for a moment it looks like a solid layer if viewed from the right angle with the light casting on it. And I believe it is caused by a static charge of the water running out inbetween the iron. With the last waves depositing the gold in the odd ripples the static produces.
dirt. Nice video. Was the 0.11 g from all 5 buckets? If so the gold content is not as good this year. If from one bucket, that would be decent. 0.25 gm per bucket is about as good as I e seen in 5 years. Finally have you explored non motorized techniques? The hand cranked wheel might work. Some quick panning methods might concentrate the gold 10- 20 times without taking too much time. Then the 2 concentrated buckets you take home would have the gold of 20.
I was researching this a bit and you can get an hpa i think its called hydrologic placer authorization or something like that. If i understand correctly the application is free
Heading to Portland, OR/Vancouver, WA in June and looking for places to prospect. Also, are battery operated highbanker/water pumps allowed? Also, any special permits for out-of-staters? Thanks in advance!
Go figure I'm so sick of the damn government I can't even stand it bunch of tree-hugging hippie think they know what they're talking about and don't I'm a fisherman as well as a gold miner I've killed a lot of fish with my fish and with my pole and hook but I've never killed any fish with any gold panning equipment what a bunch of crap
Excellent video. Would the new regulations prohibit speed panning on the beach with a gold pan into a panning tub and then just taking the rough panning concentrates home to work further with a Gold Cube or cleanup highbanker? By speed panning I mean using a 15 inch Garrett pan and saving the cons when you get down to say one quarter of the Garrett pan volume. Or am I missing something obvious about the new regulations? Thank you for sharing.
Got that right it's called greed. They have so much gold in the treasure and then they don't want ypu to have any. Who said we have to ask to dig? Or to grow or take water..
So it used to be in the pamphlet. They have since removed it but they have not made a rule about removing sand. Unfortunately this has led to a lot of people going down and taking more than two buckets each so I’m hoping they do not make rules around it again. As long as you stay to two buckets you should be fine. But if you bring 10 people that means you can get 20 buckets lol
I've been wondering, because I found a beach spot outside of Tillamook where I live with concentrated black sands. I did a 1.5 cup sample pan and it had 12 flour pieces. I'm wondering if there is a way to run a gold cube or sluice system into tubs and feed it water manually with buckets. Like create a shoot on top or something. Or with a gavity fed hose and then remove water from tailings tub before it hits the beach. It's a spot you can drive to, so you could load a water tank in the back of a truck
Such a shame about the rule change. What about a non-motorized method to concentrate it some on the beach so the buckets you can take home are a little better?
That will work tell they catch on , then they will stop you from removing the sands from the beach and or they will make you pay for a permit that no one can afford . That’s next and i guarantee that’s what’s going to happen . Nothing we can do about it , well there is but that’s not going to happen so yea , enjoy your fun wile you can !
I went there recently but I dug big hole and got down to good pay layer I took 6 buckets 2 for each of us I was wondering if you could use a rocker box
@@chadjessop8801 Rocker boxes are still OK, but they don't want any water discharged still. Perhaps a guy could rig up a lightweight folding (cheap) exercise bike pully powered rocker. Water still contained in totes.
I've thought about this a lot. When looking up charts on pcs of gold per oz/gr they vary a lot. For 100- mesh I've seen estimates anywhere from 98,232 pcs/oz (gpaa) up to 800,000 pcs/oz. (Gold Panners Guide To Washington State). So first one would need an idea of the size/weight of an average pc of gold from the beach area. Then it would be easier to estimate results of different methods of recovery. After watching many videos on different methods of recovery a couple stick with me as ways that might be somewhat practical for regulated beach sands. If you get a chance watch the videos on Indus river gold recovery. A good one is by Royal Tiger Cottage BORN TO COLLECT THE RAW GOLD. I actually tried making one of those wooden panning devices but the wood was too heavy to be practical. But this idea coupled with a plastic beekeepers honeycomb instead of the wooden pan device might be effective. See- Blade Attila-How to Catch micron gold easily with a plastic beekeeper's honeycomb?! I see people using large shovels to fill their 5 gallon buckets (at the beach in the vids), one would definitely need to scale that down and spend more time processing out/panning the black sands.
@@pnwprospecting I'm thinking about a ram pump but it will never move 1100 gph.. i can adapt a hand pump and i can adapt a water pump to run on human power.... The problem there is it requires 1 man power to operate, perhaps dog power or horse power.... A water truck with enough garden hose to reach the work area might be an idea. give me some time to think it over.
@@pnwprospecting i thought this over for a few days, pumps can pump with spinning motion or an up and down motion. to take a dedicated human operator out of the equation i need to know what forms of potential energy a miner is willing to convert to kinetic energy. For example, we could take a 'spinning pump' hook a gear or belt up to the shaft and set up a gin pole or tripod and hoist a bucket of sand up in the air and let gravity spin our pump. What we're really searching for is free mechanical potential energy on the beach.... free potential energy is abundant on a creek by use of hydraulic advantage and water wheels and stuff. let me know what you think, maybe i can work on a prototype
So they did remove the section in the new pamphlet. In the old pamphlet it said you were allowed up to 10 gallons of concentrated material. Even though they removed that from the pamphlet it does not mean that removing sound from the beach is prohibited but the Rangers are still going by the 10 gallon rule so I would not be removing more material than two buckets per person. If the sound was as good as it used to be I would take my whole family down there so I could come back with a bunch of sand. But with the amount of the gold going down per bucket because of overburden covering the best layers I don’t wanna have to deal with all that leftover sand at home LOL
I could understand perhaps for water pumps using gas but small battery operated marine pumps seem insignificant to me in terms of impact, Unfortunate. I'm from Ontario CA and even I'd like to see at least battery operated pumps back on the beach, I enjoy the content a lot and plan to get out and do the same thing on the other side of the water this summer.
I have been holding out on an invention that should be able to concentrate hundreds of gallons of sand in an hour, this kind of suck now I have to make it manual that's fine it will still work.
@@pnwprospecting update I have the prototype made and tested and looking back I am almost certain this will fly under the guidelines of states like Washington state and Michigan. not sure if I can get this to 1 of 15 well known manufactures before 2025 but if I can get this to market by next year your going to want a copy.
Well it’s not just the hippies ! They hate us , everything about us , and they won’t stop tell we are gone , they are winning the batttle and nobody is willing to do a dam thing about it ! Vote and protest tell the cows come home but that’s not gonna do a dam thing for us . Only one way out of this giant mess . Unfortunately nobody is willing to do it , so unfortunately we have lost all ready , just a matter of time before they own us completely!
@@americanadventureoutdoors4213 It may be possible to petition for changes to recreational small scale mining but it takes a lot of teamwork to make it happen. Exceptions can be made. One suggestion is to use places like Facebook to gather interested parties. Strength in numbers.
@@nefariumxxx I live in Oregon , and you can do that all you want , they spent tons of money trying to protect small scale mining down here , same in California ! And it achieved absolutely nothing . They have more money to stop us from mining than we have to protect are rights ! They will always find a way to win . Just like my district I have a mine in . Just recently they shut. Down dreadging in this area , becuase of mercury. They dont want us pulling it out and having it disposed of properly. They rather it go down stream so it can build up and they can say hey look mercury particals are to high , keep it shut down !
@@americanadventureoutdoors4213 Yeah, I'm up near Oregon border with Washington and they make it hard to have fun in either state. It's hard to get enough people motivated to make a difference with such a niche hobby. Most people don't care.
Best to have a consistent flow than pulses but some people are trying double hand pumps. I’ll wait and get HPA for once the jetties are done and we’ve given it time to get back to good pay. It’s not as good as it was before the jettie work started.
This land belongs to the PEOPLE. It is time to take back what RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. And not the people we put in to place to manage them for the people. AMERICA WE THE PEOPLE
People far away make laws where no man can stay ? We fought wars in far away lands to protect our homeland, only to lose freedom we fought for others lands while we lost our land
A battery? No. When the laws were different we were getting a over 2 grams per day average. More than what it cost to drive down even. 8 grams in two days was my best. So no not a waste!
Yes but I’m happy to say that I just got off the phone with the people they give out the permits for mining the beach and they’re being extremely helpful in the process! I’m working on documenting how to do it because it doesn’t cost anyone anything other than the time filling out the form
It can work I’ve seen people build stuff that works ok but it adds work to an already. Busy day. Honestly the sand isn’t good right now. We need some really big storms to tear up the beach and the jetty construction as it’s brought in a lot of overburden.
@@pnwprospecting my parents always said... thats what kids are for.. grunt work hehe A nice ocean storm would be a good deal👍 We getting the inland storms but that not gonna help beach gold 😏
Got to love people making laws based on feelings and not facts. Good video buddy, lots of information.
Thanks man I’m going to miss us running our equipment down there
Enviro- wackjobs have screwed the taxpayers enough! F their laws! Keep digging. We the people! Not we the government!
That was fun! I'd love to help get motors back on that beach.
We are working on that right now! But at least we can take some sand home and run it while making good food on the barbecue!
I picked up a Gold Magic spiral wheel cheaply and it does have the hand cranking option but I need to order the proper sized belt to make that part work. It does catch the fine flour gold too. It found some (tiny amount) in the leftovers which I had already panned by hand. So, it's better than I am. It was hard to find the right sized tote to run at the proper angle but I finally found one online cheaply which allowed to use the thing at a 50 degree angle, (not quite 45, but close enough). Don't know how well it would process beach sand but will give it a shot one of these days. It does a great job capturing black sand.
Great video. We have the same equipment problem here in California. So I built a giant funnel that goes down to half inch hose and use the hydrolic pressure to run my highbanker. No moving parts.
Good way to do it!
I think the Washington Gold and Fish book states no gravity hydraulics allowed. Unfortunately.
@William Brink, I'd like to see that set up!
Thanks for spreading the word, it's getting crazy these days even to micro mine. I really enjoy how much information is in your content. Thanks for what you do!⛏🤠👍
If you send an email to ecology requesting info on how to apply for an NPDES permit...OR A LETTER STATING THAT NO PERMIT IS REQUIRED...they will give you the letter. PROVIDED, no chemicals...ie jet dry...and no discharge DIRECTLY to "state waters". That will suffice for your HPA application.
I heard that there is a market for the beach black sand from Washington . : Tatara is a traditional furnace used for smelting iron and steel. In this clay vessel, a charcoal fire is started and, over the next few days, several layers of charcoal and iron sand are added. When the furnace cools down, the clay tube is broken and what remains at the bottom is steel bloom known as kera. If kera is large enough and if the craftsmen maintained the correct temperature, it contains a small amount of bright silvery alloy called tamahagane (which translates into “round and precious steel like a gem.
That cave is awesome!!! There is actually 2 of them there the other one is about 50 yards further
The intro drone shots are awesome! Such a cool spot! 🔥🔥 Well done!
Thanks I need to get the drone out more often!
Beach of gold! Heck yeah man, at least we know it's there right? Thats the way to do it. Gold cube at home is a great processing station method. Cool video
Thanks good video! and for the news about running sluices on the beach.
Good news everyone!! Got my hpa for Cape Dissapointment APPROVED today!! It is possible. See my previous comment. Only trouble I had at all was getting Ecology to communicate. Once I accomplished that it was smooth sailing. Good luck and heavy pans everyone!!
Questions I will have lol great job
Ask away if you have questions. Glad to help if I can.
So with the extension of the jetty a lot of blonde sand has built up on the beach. So you have to dig down pretty deep and even further to get to the good lawyers. So basically we have to wait for the jetty to be completed and then we need a lot of big storms over multiple years to get the conditions that we had when we were getting up to a quarter gram per 5 gallon bucket. But is it worth going down there right now to get some sand to take home and play with yes it is worth it. It’s just not profitable like it used to be. But I will be getting my HPA permit so I can run on the beach again.
@@josephbieberly8624 I can't honestly say. Didn't prospect there before so no way to compare. And right now I'm doing my prospecting up on Seaview Beach since I don't have a cart yet to haul all of my equipment and water from the parking lot to the beach. At Seaview Beach I can just drive to my work site and setup right out of the back of my truck.
That would tickle me to death ;) They have reserved the entire beach for you!! Find yourself an orange road cone and a high volumn bilge hand pump. Turn the road cone upside down (make a stand for it) and fit an inch or inch and a quarter pvc pipe in the bottom about 2 inches inside and hook your bilge pump to the bottom. When you pump you will create a pulse up into the cone, starting from that 2 inches of pvc, holding the heavys and tossing out the lighter black sand over the top. Then you need a seat and 4 or 5 buckets of black sand and pump with your left and feed with your right. Every 4 buckets, stop and rest and take that concentrated black sand home from the cone. 4 buckets of that concentrate and you will be back in the beach mining business!!!! I would suggest your take will increase as you can concentrate faster than with a battery pump!! Pulse jets work very well!!! 2 people can really do well as one can pump and the other feed the cone. Screw the politicians!!!!!
Those pesky politicians. always messing with our fun
Agreed! But we got some great places to take you next time you come to Oregon! Let’s get you on a dredge!
My hunch is that it's more about overzealous environmentalism where the karen / nanny types think having any fun must surely be destroying something. We have some extreme types in the NW. No amount of logic or explanation will work on them but you can bet they will be the first ones doing something stupid when they go camping in their expensive and fancy motorhomes.
The state definitely put the brakes on hard . It is a shame Thay couldn't have just informed the existing regulations . I hate digging a big hole and not being able to suck off the bottoms leaves me not wanting to go out as much . I still have dredges but not a lot of hope. The regs were thought-out and if followed Thay made the impact next to none . Thanks for the vids. I never made it out to the beach but I have heard some stories of success and some of people not following the gold and fish pamphlet
Setting my pump up on a stationary bike... screw insley
Good video
Just concentrate the sand before putting it in the bucket. Could use a large gold pan or a hand rocker for that and put two or three buckets in one. Been thinking about working the beach this year with a Micro washplant I've designed around the rockerbox design of seperation through specific gravity.
Also I need to ask if you have seen the ribbons of gold on the beach. As if you look at the sand with the sun infrount you and low 9n the hurision. You can see them only then. But only on a reseeding tide right where the waves can't reach no more. And it only last a little while until the sand dries a bit and shifts the surface as it settles so then it can't be seen no more. But for a moment it looks like a solid layer if viewed from the right angle with the light casting on it. And I believe it is caused by a static charge of the water running out inbetween the iron. With the last waves depositing the gold in the odd ripples the static produces.
dirt. Nice video. Was the 0.11 g from all 5 buckets? If so the gold content is not as good this year. If from one bucket, that would be decent. 0.25 gm per bucket is about as good as I e seen in 5 years.
Finally have you explored non motorized techniques? The hand cranked wheel might work. Some quick panning methods might concentrate the gold 10- 20 times without taking too much time. Then the 2 concentrated buckets you take home would have the gold of 20.
I was researching this a bit and you can get an hpa i think its called hydrologic placer authorization or something like that. If i understand correctly the application is free
Time for people to start brainstorming lightweight folding exercise bike pully systems... :)
haha or just a hand-crank on a gear ratio. can make anything happen with enough torque
No matter what you think up the leftist scum will just outlaw it. only sure bet is to replace the garbage running the state.
So I emailed dnr in washington and they said you can use motors if its in a reservoir
Super cool vid man, too bad it’s getting tougher to mine there.
Yeah seems like it’s happening everywhere…
Heading to Portland, OR/Vancouver, WA in June and looking for places to prospect. Also, are battery operated highbanker/water pumps allowed?
Also, any special permits for out-of-staters?
Thanks in advance!
Go figure I'm so sick of the damn government I can't even stand it bunch of tree-hugging hippie think they know what they're talking about and don't I'm a fisherman as well as a gold miner I've killed a lot of fish with my fish and with my pole and hook but I've never killed any fish with any gold panning equipment what a bunch of crap
Excellent video. Would the new regulations prohibit speed panning on the beach with a gold pan into a panning tub and then just taking the rough panning concentrates home to work further with a Gold Cube or cleanup highbanker? By speed panning I mean using a 15 inch Garrett pan and saving the cons when you get down to say one quarter of the Garrett pan volume. Or am I missing something obvious about the new regulations? Thank you for sharing.
I’d also like to know
Is it just beach prospecting that's effected by those new rules or do creeks and rivers also fall under them?
All waterways in Washington
It's all about keeping people from making untaxed income
Got that right it's called greed. They have so much gold in the treasure and then they don't want ypu to have any. Who said we have to ask to dig? Or to grow or take water..
Can ypu send me the link or info where I can get the dredge going in creeks or the beach.thankyou.i know exactly where gold is and I'll find.
and hello from anacortes
Great video! How did you find out you can take two buckets home? Is that info in the G&F pamphlet?
So it used to be in the pamphlet. They have since removed it but they have not made a rule about removing sand. Unfortunately this has led to a lot of people going down and taking more than two buckets each so I’m hoping they do not make rules around it again. As long as you stay to two buckets you should be fine. But if you bring 10 people that means you can get 20 buckets lol
@@pnwprospecting thanks for the info! I’ll have the get the kiddos hauling a couple buckets. Are you apart of wpma?
No the only club I’m part of right now is Republic but I will check them out!
We have claims we can dredge in Oregon
I've been wondering, because I found a beach spot outside of Tillamook where I live with concentrated black sands. I did a 1.5 cup sample pan and it had 12 flour pieces. I'm wondering if there is a way to run a gold cube or sluice system into tubs and feed it water manually with buckets. Like create a shoot on top or something. Or with a gavity fed hose and then remove water from tailings tub before it hits the beach. It's a spot you can drive to, so you could load a water tank in the back of a truck
I’ve been hearing that as long as it’s above the high water mark Basically above the beach you could re-circulate in the tubs
Rich people with power don't want anyone else to prosper unless it somehow makes them richer.
Such a shame about the rule change.
What about a non-motorized method to concentrate it some on the beach so the buckets you can take home are a little better?
That’s what a lot of us are trying to figure out right now! If you come up with any good ideas let us know!
That will work tell they catch on , then they will stop you from removing the sands from the beach and or they will make you pay for a permit that no one can afford . That’s next and i guarantee that’s what’s going to happen . Nothing we can do about it , well there is but that’s not going to happen so yea , enjoy your fun wile you can !
I went there recently but I dug big hole and got down to good pay layer I took 6 buckets 2 for each of us I was wondering if you could use a rocker box
@@chadjessop8801 Rocker boxes are still OK, but they don't want any water discharged still. Perhaps a guy could rig up a lightweight folding (cheap) exercise bike pully powered rocker. Water still contained in totes.
I've thought about this a lot. When looking up charts on pcs of gold per oz/gr they vary a lot. For 100- mesh I've seen estimates anywhere from 98,232 pcs/oz (gpaa) up to 800,000 pcs/oz. (Gold Panners Guide To Washington State). So first one would need an idea of the size/weight of an average pc of gold from the beach area. Then it would be easier to estimate results of different methods of recovery. After watching many videos on different methods of recovery a couple stick with me as ways that might be somewhat practical for regulated beach sands. If you get a chance watch the videos on Indus river gold recovery. A good one is by Royal Tiger Cottage BORN TO COLLECT THE RAW GOLD. I actually tried making one of those wooden panning devices but the wood was too heavy to be practical. But this idea coupled with a plastic beekeepers honeycomb instead of the wooden pan device might be effective. See- Blade Attila-How to Catch micron gold easily with a plastic beekeeper's honeycomb?! I see people using large shovels to fill their 5 gallon buckets (at the beach in the vids), one would definitely need to scale that down and spend more time processing out/panning the black sands.
okay, what's the rule exactly? no motors? I can work around that, how much water do you need and from how far away?
No motorize mining in Washington without an HPA permit and you need 1100 gallons per hour to run the sand
@@pnwprospecting I'm thinking about a ram pump but it will never move 1100 gph.. i can adapt a hand pump and i can adapt a water pump to run on human power.... The problem there is it requires 1 man power to operate, perhaps dog power or horse power.... A water truck with enough garden hose to reach the work area might be an idea. give me some time to think it over.
@@pnwprospecting i thought this over for a few days, pumps can pump with spinning motion or an up and down motion. to take a dedicated human operator out of the equation i need to know what forms of potential energy a miner is willing to convert to kinetic energy. For example, we could take a 'spinning pump' hook a gear or belt up to the shaft and set up a gin pole or tripod and hoist a bucket of sand up in the air and let gravity spin our pump. What we're really searching for is free mechanical potential energy on the beach.... free potential energy is abundant on a creek by use of hydraulic advantage and water wheels and stuff. let me know what you think, maybe i can work on a prototype
Where does the 2 buckets/ 10 gallon law come from? I’ve read the gold and fish pamphlet, but don’t see that listed.
I’ll find the rule on it and get back to you!
@@pnwprospecting bump. same here, have pamphlet in a binder and recently went out and collected 10 buckets
So they did remove the section in the new pamphlet. In the old pamphlet it said you were allowed up to 10 gallons of concentrated material.
Even though they removed that from the pamphlet it does not mean that removing sound from the beach is prohibited but the Rangers are still going by the 10 gallon rule so I would not be removing more material than two buckets per person. If the sound was as good as it used to be I would take my whole family down there so I could come back with a bunch of sand. But with the amount of the gold going down per bucket because of overburden covering the best layers I don’t wanna have to deal with all that leftover sand at home LOL
@@pnwprospecting thanks for the info!
I could understand perhaps for water pumps using gas but small battery operated marine pumps seem insignificant to me in terms of impact, Unfortunate. I'm from Ontario CA and even I'd like to see at least battery operated pumps back on the beach, I enjoy the content a lot and plan to get out and do the same thing on the other side of the water this summer.
Yeah the regulations have gotten out of hand. But we are fighting back so hopefully we can get some of our rights back here soon.
I have been holding out on an invention that should be able to concentrate hundreds of gallons of sand in an hour, this kind of suck now I have to make it manual that's fine it will still work.
You can always bring some sand home for testing!
@@pnwprospecting update I have the prototype made and tested and looking back I am almost certain this will fly under the guidelines of states like Washington state and Michigan. not sure if I can get this to 1 of 15 well known manufactures before 2025 but if I can get this to market by next year your going to want a copy.
Dang hippies are gonna ruin all our outdoor activities…..
Agreed!
Well it’s not just the hippies ! They hate us , everything about us , and they won’t stop tell we are gone , they are winning the batttle and nobody is willing to do a dam thing about it ! Vote and protest tell the cows come home but that’s not gonna do a dam thing for us . Only one way out of this giant mess . Unfortunately nobody is willing to do it , so unfortunately we have lost all ready , just a matter of time before they own us completely!
@@americanadventureoutdoors4213 It may be possible to petition for changes to recreational small scale mining but it takes a lot of teamwork to make it happen. Exceptions can be made. One suggestion is to use places like Facebook to gather interested parties. Strength in numbers.
@@nefariumxxx I live in Oregon , and you can do that all you want , they spent tons of money trying to protect small scale mining down here , same in California ! And it achieved absolutely nothing . They have more money to stop us from mining than we have to protect are rights ! They will always find a way to win . Just like my district I have a mine in . Just recently they shut. Down dreadging in this area , becuase of mercury. They dont want us pulling it out and having it disposed of properly. They rather it go down stream so it can build up and they can say hey look mercury particals are to high , keep it shut down !
@@americanadventureoutdoors4213 Yeah, I'm up near Oregon border with Washington and they make it hard to have fun in either state. It's hard to get enough people motivated to make a difference with such a niche hobby. Most people don't care.
Were there any Goonies in the cave?
Just my little goonie!
Gold Rat makes that foot bilge pump, ever think about takin something like that out here?
Best to have a consistent flow than pulses but some people are trying double hand pumps. I’ll wait and get HPA for once the jetties are done and we’ve given it time to get back to good pay. It’s not as good as it was before the jettie work started.
@@pnwprospecting Right on man! yeah i knew the pulsing would be an issue, thanks for getting back!
This land belongs to the PEOPLE. It is time to take back what RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. And not the people we put in to place to manage them for the people. AMERICA WE THE PEOPLE
HPA steps, process, details... video?
I will be documenting the process I have not done it yet but I do you have the paperwork
If its sticky won’t your weight be off
Do it anyway. Become ungovernable
I am curious who these people vote for?
People who push for agendas over science! We can show no harm is done to the beach!
Its arranged by the government to control your income.
The government wants the Earth. Haven't you figured ot out yet? This earth belongs to all. Not just the government.
People far away make laws where no man can stay ? We fought wars in far away lands to protect our homeland, only to lose freedom we fought for others lands while we lost our land
those waves are no different than running a sluice box fk them do it anyway
Cost more in electricity
A battery? No. When the laws were different we were getting a over 2 grams per day average. More than what it cost to drive down even. 8 grams in two days was my best. So no not a waste!
Arnold Schwarzenegger(R) Governor of California Banned dredges sometime ago in CA.
Well California is not known for making smart decisions
I’m already back to mine in the beach because I got the permit so I’m just going to make it easier for other people to get it as well
They must be doing something right. They have the most money and the most people.@@pnwprospecting
You can manage without motors just get creative.
Yes we are working on that! But I need to start the process and just get my permits and then I can run all week long
Gas motors
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Any kind of motor is not allowed without the HPA… But the permit is extremely easy to get
Congratulation the government give the American citizen the finger again. We are loosing our freedoms each day.
Yes but I’m happy to say that I just got off the phone with the people they give out the permits for mining the beach and they’re being extremely helpful in the process! I’m working on documenting how to do it because it doesn’t cost anyone anything other than the time filling out the form
you can shit on the street, but you can't look for gold what's next outlaw gardens.
Demos don't want people getting money😑
But the pump motor attached to it is. I’ll be getting my HPA and mine the beach again just waiting till the jetty is done on both sides.
Ya sorry I just thought of that pump haha
@@pnwprospecting could you make like a hand cranked wheel system that will pump the water through.. or would it not produce enough flow?
It can work I’ve seen people build stuff that works ok but it adds work to an already. Busy day. Honestly the sand isn’t good right now. We need some really big storms to tear up the beach and the jetty construction as it’s brought in a lot of overburden.
@@pnwprospecting my parents always said... thats what kids are for.. grunt work hehe
A nice ocean storm would be a good deal👍
We getting the inland storms but that not gonna help beach gold 😏
This figures I bought a gold cube for hauling buckets off the beach,not,can't do anything any more,such b.s.
You can still bring home some buckets of sand
I use the gold cube for classified river gravel as well