Epic Fail or Epic? Skar vxf 15" subwoofer review
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2023
- In Depth review and test of the Skar XVF 15"subwoofers. Buy these subs here: 15" amzn.to/41udwyy
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I had 4 in a 6th order on 2 cab4500s and 200ah of lithium. They beat. Was doing 157.3db at 38hz. Played 20hz to 60hz loud. Great subs for the price. I had over 2k running to each and they took it no problem.
Loved these subs before I got my zv5's was clamping 7000w roughly to the pair and they took it no issues at all!
Jus put 2 in my car on a smart taramp 5k bass and they get down..tuned to 31hz 6.5 cube ported box
I just bought the 12 inch...love it
Great reviews! I have not been getting any notice of your reviews or a lot of subscriptions. Any way?? Keep up the good work 💯💯
Thank you!
Enclosure looks awesome 👌
Thank you
Ran some on a Sundown sfb8k for over 2 years and still looking brand new, just took them out to try out some other things but they are going back in one day 🤙 nice vid!
They can definitely handle power. Very good subwoofers for sure. Thanks so much for watching.
That sfb 8k looks like a great amp! I'm running a t8000.1 trinity right now, but idk if it's capable of doing even close to rated, seems barely louder than the smart 3 bass I had on the subs before
I've got a single vxf in a center console enclosure in my 98 f150. Sounds great
I still want a pair of these. I was gonna get them for my build but I wanted more bass since I had the power to push it, so I went with the Xv3 15s.
Love the VXF I got a 15 D2 and got a new amp coming the stinger MT 2000 they hit on the RP1200 right now but way under powered. Great video bro 🔥
Thanks so much!
Just got one but I can only feed it 1500 max
Very nice box and staining job.
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I'll wait till you get the 12's. Very happy with what I have 8cuft little too big.
Man damn you're the first person I have heard mention unicorn in a positive way lol whole different level of respect 👍 Excellent review as always
That box is gorgeous bro!👏
Thank you so much!
Definitely 1 of my favorite subs every the spl and sq is top notch.
Not a bad looking subwoofer thanks for sharing
Love this sub.... SQ is important always !! epic video HiFi
Thank you!
I have a pair or vxf 15s in a 8.5cube box tuned to 32hz 14sq in of Port area pr qube on a taramps md 8k and they take it no problem I'm definitely happy with them
I would make a t line or folded horn and I think they would get closer to 148db
The skar vxf vs stereo integrity sql which is better
You should do a review of the synergy synester 12s or 15s.
They sound better in a sealed box got the same VXF and Smart 3k you will be more happy with the older rock bass or classical, you will lose on the low end but i got an epicenter i turn on if i need to feel it
Really good subs. Sound better than the ZVX. Not enough power for sure. You need an amp that can push the subs on dynamics. A 5k would be great and an 8k would be perfect. That way you wouldn't have to push the amplifier. Of course assuming you have enough sense to not go ego Bassing when you pull up on someone.😵💫 Also they would do better in a 7cuft box tuned to 30-32hz. I'd lean towards 30 myself as I like the lows and to hell with SPL. My ego is strong without some high SPL number. I have a Harmony ML18-2 which is the ZVX with a full dust cap. I must say the 18 sounds amazing and the box is tuned to 27 which is an eye opener. It shakes the walls in my house. Haven't tried it in a car yet. Should be violent
Sounds killer bro , killer box as well 😊😊😊
Thank you!
I have 2 vfx12s on 2 rp2k amps and they sound great. Tight accurate bass. Sound quality and SPL all in one. Great video 👍🏼👍🏼
Nice Skar Audio is good.
NIce box dude!!! Hey what brand was that perfab box yu ran fr he 15s?
The prefab is this one.
amzn.to/43qUTg8
It’s a good sounding 15” cheap box.
@@HiFiVector very good. Thank you.
Sq love here - great video enjoyed
These subs are epic no question.
The magic is in the surrounds
Damn ! U made that box? That box looks excellent id be a cosomer for 425$ on ur box.
I'm fixing to put 6 of those bad boys in my suburban in a 6th order. Hope I can float a T shirt lol
Definitely a good sub. Ive heard a single 15 on a skar 2k. It was doing a 47. I was impressed
beautiful box!
Thank you
Great video ❤❤❤What did you like better between these and the resiliente sounds gold 15subs?
Thank you! I love them both they are just very different sounding so it depends on your preference.
@@HiFiVectorI wish I could buy both but unfortunately I can't at the moment so I'm looking for the best SQ.
They both have great SQ but the vxf is more tight and accurate. The RS is smoother but less punchy so they have a totally different sound. But i would say the vxf would prob be better for what most people generally consider SQ.
Thank you that's exactly what I was looking for
You might like the 12s better. I have 12s and 15s and the 12s are a little tighter and more accurate.
I am going to pick up 2 12” and try them for sure. I was super impressed with the 15’s.
Nice bro maybe I'll try these in my van, buy ill keep my 13w7ae's in my g37
Theres a reason why these are the loudest sub skar had recorded on the db meter
I'm fixing to upgrade thinking on 1 vxf 15 D2 wired to 1 ohm and a skar rp 2000.1
That would be a great setup. You could definitely feed it more than 2k if you wanted to get everything out of it.
Honestly the only complaint I have with the VXF line is that the fs is pretty high for a 15, but yanno what? I had an 18" evl in one of Skar's prefabs in the trunk of a Vic, and that thing smashed the low lows. The 18" evl has an fs of 31.2, completely ludicrous for an 18, but it would seriously shake your eyeballs down around 26 hz and under. Gotta love cabin gain. Also I just checked skar's site for the VXF t/s parameters and how in the world is the 15" VXF UNDER $300 rn??? Skar has lost it, that's alot of driver for less than $300!
The fs of the 15” model is 31.4 hz how in the world is that too high?😵🤣
@@elijahdossett3528 uh because it is? Grant it, it's on the low end for an SPL driver, but the majority of musical 15" drivers have an fs in the upper to mid 20's with 18's having an fs in the lower 20's or lower. Of course this does not apply to pro-audio drivers. We in the car audio hobby however are an odd bunch and want the best of both worlds hence the existence of "SQL" drivers, which is what I would say the VXF is.. 31.4 hz is an fs that I would find acceptable for a 12" driver.
fs doesn't dictate everything, like all T/S parameters it's part of the trade-off of driver performance and efficiency. A 15" driver with an fs that high is going to need a much larger enclosure to be able to dig down into the mid and lower 20's than one with a more sensible fs of say 28 or 27. It's sacrificing part of the advantage that it's sd gives it for more SPL.
@@buddykillerthe fs of that sub negates everything you just said. Fs DOES NOT determine musicality, which is proven by how well this sub plays. Just like I build enclosures for the zvx 15. I have a customer with 3 zvx 15s in a 11.1 cube net enclosure tuned to 31hz that plays down to 18hz with authority and still meters a 153 @ 3,015 watts clamped. It’s all in the enclosure. Come on man. I have 600+ hand drawn designs to my name. 200+ of those are for skar builds.
@@buddykiller you try to nerd out, I can be an absolute nerd as well but when you get to the basics the fs of this sub for most 15” woofers on the market is lower than average.
@@elijahdossett3528 I don't try to nerd out, I live here full time :P
You're misunderstanding me. That's why I said fs doesn't dictate everything, and that when you consider the driver's size in relation to it's fs it falls squarely into the SQL category. Did you read what I said about the 18" evl I owned? We agree on just about every level except what musicality means and how a driver's fs factors into that. You've got 3k pushing 3 15's, I don't doubt that can hit 18 hz with authority, but if your enclosure is tuned to 31 hz then 1) cabin gain is definitely factoring into that and 2) I promise it's either significantly louder or cleaner playing 30's compared to 18 hz if not both. Have you checked the waveform?
I've never personally built or modeled for ZVX drivers and how well you can tune under fs and how far under fs you can tune depends entirely on the driver's characteristics. Unfortunately my real life experience is limited due to budgetary, location, and psychological restraints, but I model and design enclosures all the time for fun. I envy you, I LOVE car audio and would kill to do it professionally but it just isn't in the cards for me. I like peaky bass response, but I live for low end extension and in my experience response curves for most drivers start getting all wonky the further below fs you tune when you care about port velocity. That's why I fell in love with 18's and infinite baffle configurations. I can't wait to replace the sdr I have in my home with an Ultimax.... Or 4 >_>
Is the American Bass HD12 sound good? It handles 2000waats and I heard it sounds pretty good too.
Haven’t tried the HD yet.
how did smart 3 compare to surge 4k?
Output wise almost identical because the smart3 counteracts impedance rise but the surge sounded warmer and more controlled.
Epic Review!
Thanks!
What type of electrical are you running for the setup?
At the time of the video 270 amp alt, big 3 and all ofc 1/0 power wire.
@@HiFiVector nice, I sure appreciate it!
You’re very welcome thanks for watching!
Box looks fantastic bro! I'm about to upgrade my subs and am leaning towards SKAR VXF 15". Others I'm considering are: Incriminator Death Row and Sundown U-series.
Vxf I’ll save you future mistake!
@@got2getit204 I agreee with bro if you ask me the vxf is best bang for buck the sundown u is almost 200 bucks more that’s damn near another sub
For sq would you choose these or the American Bass XR?
Thanks
The vxf is more accurate musically. The xr are great but a little less accurate.
Box is a bit big but not by much The last one I built was 7.4 tuned to 33-34hz 106.25in² of port
The stereo integrity sql15 would probably be your style
I jus put the same exact ones in but my box is 6.5 cubes tuned to 31hz wired to 1ohm on the smart 5k bass and they get down
@EVIL INSIDE Thanks bro..yea I actually bought the 3k and sent it bck after Watchung many reviews of ppl saying they had the 3k and was upgrading to the 5k because the subs could handle more..now no I don't have it turned up plus I'm breaking them in (or atleast I think so lol) so that's why I got the 5k plus if I decide to go bigger on my subs I have the power to..
In comparison to the American Bass XR12, the Skar VXF has less muddy and loose bass. I do like the XR low end throw which feels good, but the VXF has better accuracy and I am still.breaking it in. I hope the throw gets better.
What amp are you running? And 1 vxf 12” or 2?
@@HiFiVector mtx jackhammer jh10001 at 2ohm for 1 vxf12, but I'm ordering the Sundown 1.5 soon.
Since the vxf handle more power compared to the xr. If you give each 1000w yea the xr is going to move a bit more but give the vxf a little more power and it will be an animal.
So besides the SQL, are these still the type of subs that will shake houses in a neighborhood and you can hear them really far away with the right box and amp?
Definitely these subs are definitely do that.
How does vxf 12 sound compared to sundown xv2 12? I dont like the sound of the sundown, has the deep bass on rebassed music but on normal music just sounds hollowed out
The VXF sounds completely different than the sundown x. The VXF is a more accurate punchy subwoofer. It will have more punch and slap I kick drums. They hit the lows very good but since lower excursion than the sundown X they don’t have as much air movement. Although I actually think the X if used the right box is a good sounding subwoofer for an air pump , high excursion type subwoofer it’s bass notes are so smooth that it lacks definition o. Tight bass compared to the vxf. But that’s where the x shines. It has no punch or slap so in bass music is flexes like crazy and sounds super smooth. So both have there places.
@HiFi Vector yes i think the x12 v2 is awesome on the low end, but i guess im used to to a normal sounding sub. My X is in a 2.5 cubic foot birch stained box tuned to 34hz.
Do these sound better then the American bass XR's?
The XR is a great sub but it just depends on personal preference. They both hit the lows great and sound very good but the big difference is the vxf has better transient response and is more accurate musically. Other big difference is the vxf has more punchy bass where the xr is less punchy smoother bass that is a little less defined. They are both great just depends on what type of bass you like. I prefer the vxf personally.
After a year do you still have same opinion about this sub. Im looking for 1 dual 2 ohm to run on a rockford amp i need a bigger box for 1 sub
Yes out of all the subs I have ever had and tested vxf is one of my favorite subs.
stupid easy to recone with tons of options because of the ti frame . honestly the only mod i do when i recone them is to drill, tap and bolt them in 3 places to keep them from shifting . they sound the best in a tapped horn
Tapped horn in a vehicle?
@@csj9619 yes and they sound perfect when done right
Either way it'll be epic 😁
Need more bracing in the box you can see the plexi flexing
I wonder what they'd sound like on a Taramps 3K MD 2ohm? 🤔 Current Setup: (2) Skar EVL 15's Taramps 3K MD 2ohm thinking of upgrading to VXF 15's
Not enough for a pair of evl more less these monsters. I'm personally running 4 of these right now off 2 jp63. They love power
Not bad fore the money sound is ok
How do these sound compared to the soundstream r3 12
The vxf hit low lows a lot better, have more excursion. The R3 is tighter and a little more musically accurate. But the price diff is huge between them.
@@HiFiVector so which would you choose?
I like both just depends on what you like if you want loud and crazy go vxf. If you want tight and clean and done want a big amp go R3.
How is the sound quality on these?
Sound quality is xlnt
When u watch the video the sub on the left looks like its playing harder x max is a little more ive seen this happen in so many videos on here on the tube.
How you think these stack up to
The American bass xfl15?
These have better sound quality for sure but those xfl are good subs as well. I prefer the vxf.
Would you say the xfl 15s are louder and have more excursion
The xfl 15” are a little louder. Not by much though but the sound quality of the vxf is way better. But it also depends on the setup and the box of course but this is in general.
Thanks for you professional opinion!
Have you tried the 15 NVX VCW154v3 ?
I’m thinking of upgrading to those or the vxfs
I haven’t heard the v3 nvx 15 yet.
These or ds18 ZXl 15?
For me vxf hands down.
@@HiFiVector thanks man
You’re welcome thanks for watching
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Is it worth upgrading from evl
It depends if you have the extra power to give it. The VXF will handle more power and it will hit the Lowe’s better than the EVL.
@@HiFiVector with same power i wont hear/ feel any diff.?
@@slitherman7883 Yes you will hear a difference in sound but maybe not volume.
@@HiFiVector later i plan to upgrade frm sk1500 amp to a 2500 or 3k for my vxfhave you utilized evl and vxf
@@slitherman7883 Yes I have both EVL and VXF subs. EVL are slightly more accurate but the VXF has more excursion and hits the low notes under 33hz better. Bothe are great subs.
Stuck between the VXF 15 & Sundown U-15 V2.🤔
I prefer the vxf.
These subs are also modular so u can rebuild them easy as hell.
That is not an accurate statement
thoes easily can handle the smart 5
That's exactly what I jus put on my 2 the smart 5k bass
They can handle a smart 5k per on proper loading and filtering.
Those subs will take a 5k taramps bass or stetsom Vulcan amp all day long.
Yes they can for sure one of them takes the smart 3 just fine. After I had them for a while I threw the smart 5 on them and they did great.
My basshead brother runs vhxs. I run ab xds. Im louder
Smart 3 is a good amp for 1 not the pair
I agree but that’s all I had in my truck at the time