HGV Driver Shortage? WHY Join The Industry? HGV Wages
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Why Is there a HGV Driver shortage? why would new hgv drivers want to join the industry? HGV Wages
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Well, I just don’t understand why there is a driver shortage. The wages are fantastic, every firm treats you with respect the wagons are well serviced the hours are really good. VOSA and the police are so nice to us. Eh, sorry I’ve just been daydreaming.
You forgot driver behaviour trackers and driver facing cameras. Imagine working in an office and facing that intrusion.
Haha, bet you were dreaming of being treated like a human being 😂
@@nigelgregory4777 not much chance of that ! Trouble is , the people who work at giving out the jobs think they are at a much higher level than a driver and treat them accordingly.
I was about to say “are you for real” then I realised you was taking the p#*s. Yeh I wonder why there’s a trucker shortage🤔 treated like filth, most places won’t let us use toilets, too many dodgy firms and trucks on the road, and yes the likes of VOSA and the Police making life hard for us.
@@doveronefoxtrot4417 I do agency work so drive lots of different wagons. If they have those driver cameras facing me I just cover them up.
there is no driver shortage; just drivers who do not want to work for terrible pay, be away from their family's and rude people who think drivers are Turds. Plenty people in the UK pass the test however, no experience= no job, no job= no experience . British Firms have done this to themselves . i have no sympathy with these Companies who are reaping what they have sown.......
The chicken - egg situation. No experience = no job.. No job = no experience. And there is a big driver shortage in the EU countries! Just got my CE licence.. Certificates..lots of them and i also speak many languages + i have a professional & technical profile wich helps me adapt to any kind of job in this industry. But wait! I have NO EXPERIENCE so I'm no good.
Had lots of talks with recruitment personell directly from companies..and got some answers.. " In a future ( means when I'll have experience 😂) we hope that would be able to offer you a position " 😑
I drived ten years in the US and ten years in the E U, now I am retired. Trucking industry does not seek for experienced drivers, they are are seeking for those whom may be easily controlled by them. Experience for them is an intellectual insult for me. Been there seeing that for 20 years from my life.
@@grigoresimion8744 Good point! In Spain actually it is happening and other countries too..Rumanía and neighbours..exactly what you're saying..those who shut up and do the work for low wages are doomed.. companies bring people from very poor countries to exploit them.
Lithuanian companies abandoning drivers & trucks around Belgium, and drivers even get in to the prison given the pressures by their bosses in their work ak tachograph fraud.
And in Italy, last month, a guy who was fighting for drivers rights got killed by the mob in the industry.
@@grigoresimion8744 thank you for supplying communities with essential goods for 20 years.
Eastern European truckers put brakes on returning to work in the UK.
The FT have reported, using ONS data and interviews with European drivers revealing the truth behind the loss of 50,000 HGV drivers, decimating the road haulage industry. Many cited similar tales of poor working conditions for quitting, but other reasons included low wages, compounded by the IR35 preventing them operating as limited companies resulting in a significant cut to take-home pay.
Truckers interviewed, reported driving now in Poland and Germany and having no plans to return to the UK, even if the pay was better, they reported that the IR35 was the final straw for themselves and many other Polish drivers.
Reporting from what they knew, many drivers came back to Poland because they could no longer work as independent contractors.
The ONS figures record 50,000 UK based drivers have left the industry, (all currently holding valid UK HGV licences) moving to construction sites and general services for better conditions and net pay, now IR35 had been rolled out.
Let me include a quick calculation (which in no way fills the requirement for 140,000 drivers).
The replacement of 50,000 truck drivers (ONS Figures) holding current HGV licences could be replaced over several years, by younger driver having to achieve C1 at £1,700.00; Followed by Class 2 (presently) at £2,000.00, then finally Class 1 at a further £1,700.00.
Let’s not look at this as someone having to finance a career in trucking costing £5,400.00 to earn £28,000.00 pa. Look instead at the skills set lost by IR35 requiring replacement of 50,000 X £5,400.00.
Total loss to the freight industry of 270 million pounds.
The cost of this disruption will far exceed the supposed recovery of alleged unpaid tax by IR35. A 40 strong team charged with devising a method of allocating causes to the 33 billion pound "Tax Gap" came up with a recovery figure 1 million for IR35! I will reserve any acerbic comments at this stage accept to say that the cost to replace140,000 retiring drivers will be 817 million pounds. Time scale is computed from an average of the total number of passes from all UK test centres which stands at 38,214 per annum, however during the pandemic this was reduced to 13,214 for the year 2020/21, a shortfall of 24,551. Without reference to the shortfall it would take over three and a half years to replace 140,000 drivers and If your still awake well done for making it to the end of this post.
I’m an HGV1. In 1990 I got £15.50ph, now 30 years later an HGV1 is being paid £11.50ph.
In real terms HGV1’s are paid 1/3 of what they earned 30 years ago.
To give hgv1’s the same living standards as they had in 1990 the pay would have to be increased to about £35ph. That’ll never happen.
Globalisation has destroyed the living standards of 80% of working people in the western world, not just truck drivers.
Sure has, working people nowadays are working much longer hours to have the same standard of living. No free time at all
Funny how in the last 30 years, wages of bosses at the top have increased by x70, while us at the bottom only by x15.
Corporate greed is a race to the bottom, which has finally been reached. And thank you for keeping communities supplied with essential goods.
@@tomthomassony8607 people are earning less than they were 30 years ago. Back then I got £15.50 per hour. Worth at least £35 per hour now. Now? Drivers are getting £13 per hour
Thankyou for this insight into truckers pay. I’m now seriously having second thoughts about entering this industry.
It looks like one step forward two steps back in this job. I wonder if I can get my £500 down payment to Hughes Driver school back?
@@simontimmins460 don’t even think about. Shit pay, treated like shit and it’ll put you in an early grave
Driver shortage, yet I still can't find a bloody space at the services lol
That's an important part of the picture . Boris, if you are reading these comments you better get ready to fix a lot of stuff or you are history. The whole deal for drivers is crap.
Service stations are in short supply and charge rather alot to park overnight
That's why lay-bys are jammed up with trucks and stink of pee
@@irvz2087 I feel that is in the national interest for the country to have an adequate infrastructure of facilities for drivers as an integral part of an adequate infrastructure of supply.
Heres why my dad quit after 30 years.
Long hours away from home.
Traffic congestion.
Finding somewhere to park for the night.
Poor wages.
Lorry maintenance.
I frankly just can't be arsed driving. Can't be arsed with the public, the regulations, the offices always wanting more
Why? That is easy: employers used cheap labour from the EU to force down wages, so British drivers left.
No more Eu drivers, very hard to come to Uk now.
@@RAZVANJUSTIN1 It's not its still easy
Yes and even the Polish and Romanian drivers went back home once they realised firms weren’t taking the p#*s and paying them less.
@@matty6848 you can get 1000 pounds in Romania for Hgv so with the cost of living thats 2000pounds in Uk, so its about the same money, and u live in your own country enjoy the sun and good food. Thats why they are leaving Uk
£6.30 an hour class 2.... £ 3.68 ph class1 pcv. Factory £9 ph......... Goodbye trucking.... Buses.... Now years later. On lot more and still in factory.... Dayshift.
Got this from a mate of facebook.
Just to make it clear driver shortages are nothing to do with Brexit.
Someone has written a job advertisement that quite accurately portrays a HGV drivers week but in the context of an office job.
Any takers?
*** WANTED ***
Office staff.
Hrs 9am -12 midnight 3 times a week
9am - 10pm 2 days a week.
Will be required to sit at your desk for up to 4.5hrs at a time then take a 45min break which you won't be paid for but must stay in the vicinity of your desk.
Customers are well within their rights to talk down to you, abuse you and generally be awkward. There is nothing you can do about this and should you attempt to defend yourself you will be reported.
Expect any mistakes to be videod and splashed all over social media.
Should you run out of time whilst carrying out your tasks you will be expected to sleep behind your desk.
We cannot guarantee desk security and you may be held responsible should anything go missing.
Toilet facilities are limited, no canteen, or shops nearby.
When busy you will be expected to work Saturday mornings after sleeping behind your desk all week. It doesn't matter if you have a family. You must always put work first.
Also, any error in judgement may result in a large fine, jail sentence or even death of a member of public (which you will be accountable for) or yourself.
Salary £10-£15ph.
I wonder how many applicants this job would get?
Spot on mate. Couldn't agree more.
Im thinking of getting a class 2 licence to pick up works at weekends and supplement my income but this post has really put things into perspective!
@@wasimmohammed3008 Im the same, was exited to get my class 2 but the more i research the more it looks like a depressing job with very low pay.
Rather be at home with my family and skint, than have a night out in a lorry bud, sorry!
me too, thats why i give up tramping, nights out for me only happen maybe twice a year. im never expected to do them
@@TruckerWillHiab I’m the same wouldn’t do it all the time but if I was asked now and again it would be something different
I will be surrendering my class 1 ! This country has demoralised truck driving .
Its not a French regiment mate, you don't have to do anything if you don't want to use it🤭
We are only classed as professional when it comes to prosecution for any offence committed!
Haulage companies are too tight to pay proper wages, expect you to do long hours and working conditions in general is terrible, that why these companies Can't get drivers or keep them
If I remember rightly Morrisons truck drivers used to be well paid in the days of Ken Morrison.He knew the value of drivers and most of them were company employees.
Same with tesco mate, mid 90s, I had a great job, made us all redundant and they farmed it out to Stobarts....
I know someone that works for them at sittingbourne. They do nothing to even try and retain drivers and just try and plug the gap with agency drivers
@@mad7206 Yes that's because it's run by ex Tesco directors...so Tesco rules apply lol
Fear not, Boris has a solution. Let them work more hours, bump them up into the the next tax bracket so the drivers take home less money than before, but hey, that's alright. hey won't have time to go home. Oh, and don't mention the health and safety aspect of exhausted drivrs behind the wheel of a forty ton truck.
A "temporary" increase in drivers hours, when the main reason most of us stopped driving was the execive hours! Honestly, they are thicker that pig sh*t.
On the plus side, Little Wilf, boris son, will never have to drive a lorry to make a crust.
With every year that passes my disillusionment with the job grows,, the crap rate keeps shrinking in comparison to the cost of living.trying to sell a lorry drivers job to up and coming future drivers is equal to polishing a turd and sprinkling it with glitter..🤣.. welcome to the reality .. 💩💩💩.
Great video as always Will. Cant wait for the next fifth wheel vlog too😊
How did you find the night out in the volvo?
Unfortunately the pay is poor unless you do mega hours like 60+ per week to earn a decent wage with alot companies .
Totally agree, or specialist work like hiab ect, I'm taking more a week on hiabs on 50 hour weeks day work than I was maxing hours away all week on containers
Driver's think my God those drivers at that company earn alot of money not realising that those drivers do stupid hours and night s out to earn that sort of take home pay.
One of my sons started at 21 got his class 1 and he is 53 now, l said he should think about packing up and coming to Spain to live, he said he will continue as long as he can get a licence.
Love your enthusiasm, positive note!
Lots of aimless chat, not much actual content in relation to the title?
you are crazy to join this career unless you like punishment long hours no pay harsh coditions treated like something you have tred on
There are decent paid hgv jobs and shite ones
It's a lifestyle rather than a job you're either made to be a trucker driver or you're not. There are decent jobs out there just as much as there are crappy ones. It's all about where your main goals are...money,how many hours you want to work..etc. If its not for you then that's fine but there are still people out there who do wish to have a career in truck driving. Personally for me it's about the community spirit...truckers stick together regardless of who they work for or where they come from they always help eachother out if they can. And that my friend is priceless.
@@MrsK2015 there are some good decent jobs out there, but they are fewer than crap jobs unfortunately. But yes there are some good firms who do actually look after their drivers. I do agency work so don’t really know what I’m coming into unless I’m working solid for a firm for 3/4 weeks.
The job is that bad even my old man put me off when he quit, and he used to love being out all week all over the EU working for a cracking boss who looked after his drivers with brand new Volvo's every 2-3 years. When I told him I passed my HGV his reply was what the fcuk for ?. He's now a digger driver home every night, company van and more money for less hours. He's lost loads of weight and looks 10 years younger.
I'm 21 with a 1 year old son...had uncles and my granddad drove trucks... Debating whether too get my HGV License...earned a sub from me mate
I’ve just ordered the provisional. Looking forward to joining the industry. 😁
Same, waiting for the docs to arrive..
With the video description in mind I thought the video would have you talking about the issue? I really don’t know why there is shortage?? It’s a great job
That was a nice quiet place to overnight, probably helped your good nights sleep not having bloody lorries thundering past all night! So becoming a bit of a fitness fella eh? A walk in the countryside, good on you. Pity there is not more quiet places for drivers to sleep I do feel for the drivers that have had to stop on a busy road on a narrow layby so glad you made the most of that stop there. All the best to you and yours.
It was nice a peaceful there that's for sure, I'm far from a fitness guy, was just a nice evening and saw a ideal opportunity to have a wonder and get away from the truck for a bit, I never have and never will park in a layby overnight, industrial estates, truckstops and services for me usually
Thank you.
The job should automatically come with a severe health warning !!!!
Stop lieing, your whole health will detereate driving for a living, not only can you not go to the toilet when you need to but you're so preoccupied with the constant work looking out for hazards and others as well as the load that you will miss vital signs that could help prevent heart desease and other deadly illnesses.
The hours are to long and the money in general is poor , this is the main reason why the young won’t have anything to do with trucking , there are easier ways to make a better living , things have got to change fast in this industry or there will be shortages in the shops
Education.way to go.
There are already shortages of materials in the building industry.
Things are changing and fast. Wages have gone up lots im taking like 5+ per hour within 12 months
Cpc, medicals, extra bits.. Fork lift, crane, hazz chem., cameras vosa... Speed bumps, traffic jams, tacho.. . For. £6.30 ph.. Why i dumped driving and work in factory.. Lot more and no hassle
whats up with that tittle man???? it has nothing to do with your vid 🤦♂️
If I was allowed to drive a hgv I'd sign on the dotted line tomorrow,I always wanted to be a truck driver like my own Dad until health issues got in the way. Now that ambition is just a dream I will never get the chance to achieve.
Everyone will have an opinion of truck drivers,money,the jobs etc..
But as I've always said being a trucker isn't a job it's a way of life,you either can hack it or you can't. Personally I think the trucking world is more like a family,I've made some amazing friends who are either truckers or partners of truckers. Honestly in my opinion I think truckers and thr trucking community doesn't get the good recognition it deserves x
@Jim Bob If you watch some if Wills previous vlogs you will see that I have epilepsy and have only been allowed to do my driving lessons the past 2 years. Even when I pass I am on a medical review licence I will never be allowed to drive a hgv
@Jim Bob no need to be sorry I've accepted its a part of who i am and I allowed to stop me doing many things for a long time but I won't allow it stop me from being happy or trying to find myself and what I'm meant to do in the world. Positivity and kindness is key to all good and happiness
The video title is misleading. I am seriously considering getting a HGV license and joining the industry, but I'm a bit intimidated by the whole thing and not being home every night. Any advice?
I totally agree and I'm thinking that when wages do go up, which they will have to across the board for the food and service industries in particular, the government will have to stand by the pension triple lock system, which will be based on wage rises.
I suspect they will try to undermine you guys by relaxing foreign driver entry
What’s the rate now for a night out? I was doing them in the mid to late 90’s & getting about £30..plus my parking paid if I parked at the services. I stopped after drivers on nights think it’s a fantastic idea to park up leave engine running nr you or even better the guy parked up next to you is leaving earlier than you starts his engine 1/2 hr before he’s leaving..& his mate is near to him & they talk to each other like it’s mid day though it’s 3;30am before they leave..Which is nice 👍
Due to tax laws the average rate is still £30, if your employer also pays for parking you could well be taxed
A few years ago a EU country with a long waiting time for car driving tests anyone who held a provisional license for six months was issued with a full licence could the same happen with HGV. Before you ask Ireland 🇮🇪 !
And it's extra money in the bin... There you go there is your PROBLEM. If you're having to work extra hours to make up for pay in the first place then you're not being paid right to begin with.
As for having three kids. Then stop unless you can afford them. No one forced you to have three kids.
If you cannot earn enough money after a full weeks work, then you have a problem. Not rocket science is it.. But then I don't expect you to understand that. If you did you'd be telling your boss to deliver it himself if its that important come what the weekend.
And no ones going to tell me different as i did HGV driving for 33 years. Tell him / her to deliver it and stay out over the weekend. Bet they whistle a new tune then.
I wouldn't say I NEED the extra money, I take home £600 ish for a 50 hour week no nights out, I only do maybe 3 nights out a year, the Saturdays are about 4 hours work for £100 and just goes towards a extra family holiday, I get what your saying and I agree too many people accept jobs on poor pay, I can assure you I'm not 1 of those
Great video
1st comment again! Well done mate
Great blog
It's actually a former RAF Signals unit, 81 and 2 SU.
Start paying working people properly and the industry will sort itself out, at the end of the day you reap what you sew
They never will , they need the workforce to fund their extravagant lifestyles. Ok for some hey !
@@julianday yep, there will always be enough for everyone to have a decent living, yet those at the top would rather just squeeze the life out of all of us
There is never a labour shortage in a capitalist economy. We just need a period of adjustment until wages are high enough to attract suitable people to the industry.
Reccomend Time codes for your opinions on the Driver Shortage. Cheers!
Every Long distance HGV driver should have access to running water and toilet facilities on board. Working days/nights should be restricted to maximum 4 out of 7, maximum 12 hours driving per day, CPC should be done online with multiple choice questions after every session, drivers should not be punished for driving longer hours than legally allowed but instead forced to take a break straightaway ASAP and reported to the employer/company.........
Thought about going back as retired 2018 got to have medical every year plus eyesight. Thing that I disagree with is doing that CPC again.
This should be done once only by new hgv drivers. It's hard enough out there with all the rules and regulations. They need to do something to bring back drivers. Went out yesterday shopping shelves in supermarkets are
Empty in places.
"Thought about going back as retired 2018"
Alan, you mention you have to now renew you medical every year!
Under current UK HGV legislation, you must re-new every year when over 65?
You must be insane, even considering going back to OUR Industry @ your age
I,m 10 years Younger than yourself Sir, and MIGHT consider returning to the Industry if the going rate ( Wage ) increased to at least £20.00 per hour!
Think about it Alan?......................................................................................................
Yes agreed. Why we have to do 4/5 CPCs is beyond me? It’s nothing but a money spinner.
Even though the video doesn’t explain what you put int the title, still enjoyed it, but reason for the comment, is it really worth getting into hgv, I’ve been in my current job for 6 years which I rather in joy. (Nothing to do with driving well some but in a van) I’d probably do hgv if I get to go to Europe and see the world, but can’t tell if I should do it
ive never done European work so i couldnt comment on that, all i would say is if your a single man with no children, hobbies or social life then go for it, if you have any of the above id personally forget about the idea of doing over sea work
Did enjoy driving but cpc expired and can't be bothered to renew it, I drove rigids multi drop at Lambert's in eastleigh then livestock for faccenda that was great, I miss that good company and great guys all the way up.
Dvlc are not issuing provisional licences , very fast and as for tests.
Work is 8-10h per day and then you go home. If you dont go home and sleaping in whe work area - you preety much still working.
Wouldn't say your working, your still at your work place but free to dispose of your time how you see fit
@@TruckerWillHiab so ... Then youre allowed to drive your work equipment home and be with your family, or you going to take your family on board of your work equipment ? And all that while youre delivering some load to soem place as well as guarding that work equipment and load on your own as an acting security guard. Where do you draw a line as a trucker ?
Are you paid for hours not spent driving?
I gave up when the ir35 was inforced and I couldn't work self employed without my own rig so became a driving instructor...Same pay half the hours now.
Well will. you seem a decent lad and your a real ( TRUCKER ) through n through I can tell. Not one of them who just want a job truckin. When I finished my last job in 2011 . I'd been all over the UK and abroad sortin customer's problems out. 24y off factory work and complaint work. But I had drove cars n vans. So I thought I would pass my c2 and then c1 test. Subsequently I drove flatbeds. Curtain siders. Boxes. DDs. But Never did a night out. Not interested.i like my home too much. There's a lot of dangerous bastard's on the roads to. I don't like doin 15 HR shifts. N falling asleep at the wheel. Being diverted off a road with a 16 ft trailer and coming across a 14ft bridge and nowere to turn round. Then get bollocked off your transport manager because a prick who cut me up 10hrs before on the m1 in his salesman's BMW has tweeted to this manager I'm the bad driver ?. . . . So if you can put up with shit like that most of the time and can handle stress. Good luck to ya. . Me I packed it in 16 month back n lovin it. If your not like Will , forget being a trucker .
WE'll with supply and Demand , you'd have thought the wages would be Very Good . Go on strike like the London tube drivers , that's why their on good wages , and less B.S. tacho Laws.
As I am looking to get my class c license and I only have an automatic license. Do most class c and up have automatic truck's?
All depends we have a load of lorries that are manuals and the last company i worked to had manuals to safer to get manual so your not limited to companys you can work for
yes ,maybe 90% ive been driving class c for 3 years and only one week i had manual one... now depends on the company u can look for automatic one only ...
nice vid
Driver shortage --- 35 years now retired plus had two seperate blood clots, now 75 and knackered all because of long hours at the wheel. When did the rot set in ? agency drivers creaming 10% of wages or even more, then the polish drivers flood with ex army licenses, then the pay per trip wages but god help you if you got stuck anywhere because the gaffer was laughing all the way, then you had some companys who refused to pay parking overnight charges ( You get an overnight rate son dont be greedy) and last but not least the bloody long hours & living by tacho time s Then whats the goverments answer to driver shortages Lol ! LONGER HOURS
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Yes you are the sort of driver employer's love. You love your truck, You're money hungry and just a bit thick.
who isn't money hungry? isn't that what we go to work for? i actually hate my truck, that volvo i was only covering for the week, i usually drive a clapped out DAF CF, im only doing 10 hour shifts so hardly maxing hours for them and am taking home trampers money for only 50 hour weeks and home everynight
The days of HGV driving as a career are long gone. As you say, it's just about grabbing what you can now because the rates are so low. To those that are considering it, please don't.
Just going through my training being paid for completing by my company am I making a mistake? Or is it worth getting the licence
@@toont6749 If it's free take it. Who knows, things might improve in the future, but don't believe you're going to make any kind of a career out of it.
@@johnv9681 are the wages really that bad?, i live in east london and see plenty class 2 work advertised at around £14-16 an hour, and class 1 at around £17-20 ph most with increased rates for night and week end work. Is this complete bullshit? I’ve also seen many job adverts inviting new passes to apply, I know London is a bit of a bubble when it comes to rates of pay and cost of living so might be different for those outside but I can’t seem to get a sense of realistic earning capability. I could live comfortably on 30k-40k a year and see many jobs advertised at around 38k-40k for class 1 work.
I do want to do both my class 1 and 2 but constantly come across bitter (no offence) ex drivers such as yourself in youtube comments on HGV videos.
Class 1 work around Thurrock you’ll hit 40k without busting your bollox
@@benm4454 We are ‘bitter’ for a reason. The rates now are what they were 15 years ago! You really think 14 an hour or 17 for class 1 in London is a good wage? Many of the rates you’ll see are for Ltd, which the government is now cracking down on, but are advertised to draw you in. Yes, you can earn 600 take home a week, but you’ll be doing 12/15 hour shifts and sleeping in a lay-by 5 nights a week. 40K a year for say a normal days work of 10 hours, five days a week?? In your dreams. There are around 70K drivers in the UK who have a HGV licence and aren’t using them. There’s a reason for that.
What do you do for a shower, wash etc?
Stop in a services and use the showers there last thing at night before finding parking or 1st thing in the morning
@@TruckerWillHiab thank you
skin care wipes or baby wipes work too, but its not good as a shower itself
Great! 20 odd minutes i'll never see again. Click bait!
I had a class 2 licence..applied to 20.firms.but was rejected by all
As.i have.no experience.now.working in a warehouse
Glad you had a great night out in Hotel 🏨 Volvo. That sounded like a 460 horsepower Volvo you had Will. I’m guessing you were in Norfolk for the night which is extremely flat & beautiful with Neighbouring county Suffolk also being extremely flat at a guess also Will. 👍
Was in Oxfordshire, the volvo is a 540, lovely truck but yes Suffolk is a lovely area
@@TruckerWillHiab yep it’s all lovely down that way as long before ill health we spent years going to North Norfolk. We stayed near Sheringham on Norfolk Coast as you might know Will. Caravan Park called Kelling Heath Holiday Park. Beautiful area Pal. 👍
@@rossmcgarrie9787 bleeding wife has me camping there next weekend 🤣
I live in Romford and work in Winchester, obviously I’m away all week and have been for 29 years but you have to go where the money is, yes all other road users treat us like dirt but they’re just ignorant to the fact that without us they’d have NOTHING! so I’m past that, even if I wanted to change occupation what could I do at the age of 50 that would pay the same money!!! I suppose I’m trapped in a way but I can think of worse jobs I could be doing than this.
I don't know, what's the job come to, the stress puts years on you, chasing the money because everything getting so expensive for your average family man as well as everyone, I salute you Sir!
Company in garrets green birm Prefers to pay £13
Instead of my £15 ....Hence the reason I was out of work
"Nights out ..." right.
I did haulage for over 30 years. Got out to do civils. Better pay home every night. I do miss it in some ways but not enough to go back for the wages terms and conditions.
#thumbsup
Can you earn a grand a week trucking if you work Wednesday,Thursday,Fridays and then say out over the weekend and have Monday Tuesday off ???
Your top line will be a grand. Until your taxes come out.
@@herbie70philip This is exactly why folk no longer want to do it.
If you can't make a grand a week trucking then why even bother ????
I was working in a bread factory doing a 4 on 4 off shift. I would walk away with the same money as a truck driver.
There’s plenty of drivers. The ir35 rules made a lot of blokes change jobs. The problem is agency’s . They keep all there drivers for the supermarkets who pay big big money. Now the agency’s have to pay holiday pay tax and national insurance. The self employed days are over.
Milk float is better than a DAF 😂😂😂😂 top drawer fella 👍🏻
Wages need to be drastically increased! Who in their right mind would drive a massive wagon with upto 44tons onboard for rubbish money!
I came of the road 12 yrs ago after many years the changes and new laws and regulations made making a decent living impossible to make a decent wage meant being away 5 days out of 7 nearly wiped my marriage out and missed my children growing up
How come the wages are so high in the USA?
I’ve heard they are paid by miles driven rather than per hour
11:19 Where you going to urinate in bottle? In the morning where you going to take dump in plastic bag or in nearest field??? This is why most people will never be hgv driver.
Eastern European truckers put brakes on returning to work in the UK.
The FT have reported, using ONS data and interviews with European drivers revealing the truth behind the loss of 50,000 HGV drivers, decimating the road haulage industry. Many cited similar tales of poor working conditions for quitting, but other reasons included low wages, compounded by the IR35 preventing them operating as limited companies resulting in a significant cut to take-home pay.
Truckers interviewed, reported driving now in Poland and Germany and having no plans to return to the UK, even if the pay was better, they reported that the IR35 was the final straw for themselves and many other Polish drivers.
Reporting from what they knew, many drivers came back to Poland because they could no longer work as independent contractors.
The ONS figures record 50,000 UK based drivers have left the industry, (all currently holding valid UK HGV licences) moving to construction sites and general services for better conditions and net pay, now IR35 had been rolled out.
Let me include a quick calculation (which in no way fills the requirement for 140,000 drivers).
The replacement of 50,000 truck drivers (ONS Figures) holding current HGV licences could be replaced over several years, by younger driver having to achieve C1 at £1,700.00; Followed by Class 2 (presently) at £2,000.00, then finally Class 1 at a further £1,700.00.
Let’s not look at this as someone having to finance a career in trucking costing £5,400.00 to earn £28,000.00 pa. Look instead at the skills set lost by IR35 requiring replacement of 50,000 X £5,400.00.
Total loss to the freight industry of 270 million pounds.
The cost of this disruption will far exceed the supposed recovery of alleged unpaid tax by IR35. A 40 strong team charged with devising a method of allocating causes to the 33 billion pound "Tax Gap" came up with a recovery figure 1 million for IR35! I will reserve any acerbic comments at this stage accept to say that the cost to replace140,000 retiring drivers will be 817 million pounds. Time scale is computed from an average of the total number of passes from all UK test centres which stands at 38,214 per annum, however during the pandemic this was reduced to 13,214 for the year 2020/21, a shortfall of 24,551. Without reference to the shortfall it would take over three and a half years to replace 140,000 drivers and If your still awake well done for making it to the end of this post.
Wish my Iveco Stralis had an electronic sun visor. 🌞😔
I thought they did, sure the 2015 one I drove did, probably didn't work but sure it had one
Try forest Freight or Express Freight
Bet they love you, your firm
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I’ve both a HGV and PCV licence, both industries treat you like a fool.
I’m a dustcart driver for a London council
And I earn £15,50 per hour and our wages are going up again
April next year we will be on £18 per hour
And its job and finished
I start at 6am and finished by 11am
And we are crying out for new drivers
Even drivers who have just past their test are welcome
Just go to your local agency
Ford London try cue personnel or reed
The pay is crap. the only way you take home a decent wage is by working 70+ hours and stopping out every night. Transport planners etc talk to you like your a piece of crap. Your expected to just know everything. And companys have been turning away new drivers because they want 2 years experiance. who is gonna spend 4k on a licence to get turned away because you havent got the experience. It aint the goverments fault there is a shortage its the hauliers fault and now there gonna have to start and pay for what THEY have created.
How long have you been truckin mate
6 years.... still learning.... although I do have a father with over 30 years experience on the road at the end of a phone... also spent most of my childhood sat next to him all over the country
They don’t pay more because They fear you attaining too much money to gain your own independence.
“Self Empowerment Movement” seems to be the main problem because ever driver with experience know their options now.
Therefore they do not dare settle for less. Why argue when you can be the trucking company. At least that the underground movement in Memphis Tennessee USA 🇺🇸.. JS Get The Big Picture 😉
Two of the best truck brands are both Swedish Volvo and Scania
Who is this bloke trying to convince?
What other job is there where you can be prossecuted for working 10 minytes over your time?? What other job Prosecutes you for someone elses poor work such as mechanical problems. What other job prosecutes you for putting too much weight on a pallet?? We are truckers not loadmasters or mechanics.The Govt can shove their HGV .Any extra money looks great BUT it only goes tot he taxman for the queens kitty
Im considering going my hgv license.. Would you recommend it? I enjoyed your video looked good to me tbh..
I'd recommend it 100%, yes it can be long hours, often spoken to and treated like dirt but there are also alot of good points
@@TruckerWillHiab thank you. I think i am going to go for it. What license would you recommend me doing.. What offers the best options and opportunities?
Really depends what sort of work your looking at doing, class 2 tends to be mainly multidrop day work, class 1 pays a bit more usually.
The secret is working for a good company.. Good luck with that one.
@@TruckerWillHiab Isn't the best paid petrol tanker drivers?
So much prefer you on own channel, refuse to watch with that other lot.
The government media outlets have never released a truthful story.
There's 17 of us class1 drivers working in a Amazon warehouse fir better conditions & money than is offered class1 driving in my area lol
No through road? Let's get through😂
There is no way I am working a Saturday for £100. It could be a 4/5 hours or a 15h day. And It does not depend on me, so... Nah.
It's not just that You do a little hours work. It's that your Saturday and your weekend is gone. All for hundred stinky pounds.
Also, You are following your google maps and You didn't planned your trip before departure.
Taking some chances there.
I was following my Tom Tom truck nav, I knew exactly where I was going anyway I’ve been twice before.
Weekends hardly gone, I start at 7 home for 12 ish, I wouldn’t work every weekend, each to their own I guess, I do only work 10 hour days though and home by 5 every night, only have 1 night out in maybe 6 months so I’m home every night to sit and eat dinner and spend quality time with my children every day
I also don’t go fishing or to pubs ect, every spare min I have is spent with my children making memories. Can’t fault a guy for working a extra couple of hours every couple of months for a few extra quid to pay for a extra holiday for the family, not like I’m sitting on my arse on benefits
HGV 1 since 1997 and it is the worst job I have ever had 😕 hounded to funk off VOSA or DVSA I think they are called now Wages was crap CPC bullshit Parking hassel customer's treat you like shit (Argos) been my worst customer and I could go on
With the majority of kids leaving school and spending all their time on the sofa with their X box and Staffie contemplating their next tattoo and silly haircut the UK is short of everything, brains included, since 1975 parents have given up on their kids and the UK has become the cesspit that it is. The people also gave up because if they had not then it would have been them that changed the governments policies.
We are being replaced through mass immigration. Why care about a house that won't be yours next week.
In 1976 , Me and my mates from School (age 14 ) had part time jobs on the local ind estates , washing Lorries , sweeping up etc . But now there is NO work ethic untill after College at 18-19 Y.Old . So thats 5 years lost and never used a sweeping brush or pressure washer .
@@emclearance5694 most firms would happily have 14/15 year olds doing Saturday jobs for them, but they can’t do it now because of H&S reasons and insurance reasons..
Volvo only one i haven't driven🙂
The pols and Romanians have done it for crap money and are leaving. It’s heavily regulated and polices. There was a race to the bottom but even cheap labour is leaving the industry in droves and now companies need to rethink their model as brits won’t drive for the money, pressure, stress etc
The problem is that the only realistic solution is more investment in self-driving trucks. As long as the hours are bad and the travel gets you nowhere really interesting (like, say, the EU), pay won't get people to take these jobs. Higher pay will, of course, mean that those who do the job stay longer.
We've seen this with nursing. We grandly say it's a calling rather than a job, because no one actually does it unless they are psychologically wired for it, and then they burn out in a relatively short time. We've tried pay, and that helps with retention, but not much. The only thing that actually works without completely restructuring how the system works is to import nurses.
Have a look a unitruck purfleet dagenham just got a notification on Facebook
Loving the shortage of driver I got 10k payrise so we don't quit ;) bit of o didn't get the pay rise o was heading out of truck driving anyway long hours for like 10 pound an hour not worth it in my eyes enjoy work to life ratio my plan is to go down 4 days week you only live once don't live it behind the wheel and not with family
Where’s the showers and toilets?
Baby wipes and a bottle 😂😂
Wow you have a nice comfortable everything except decent wages🤣
id have to disagree with that, wages is probably the best part of the job
No driver shortage, we just drive in Europe now.
Doing my Class 2 test in August, I'm only 21 and I've heard so many reasons why I should stop and go do something else blah blah, I've been waiting almost a year to get my license and I'm still just as excited I was when I started the process, I suppose it may be honeymoon happiness but we shall see. I personally feel that the industry can only get better from now on with companies being forced to provided better rates in order to keep and gain new/old drivers. Cracking video mate.
Same here mate, start training on 30th August! Did all medical, theory etc jan 2020 and have been waiting until now! Seems we’re going to be entering when the demand is so high we should be able to get jobs in the past we wouldn’t have stood a chance without experience... maybe a little harder for yourself being under 25, but nevertheless good opportunity ahead I hope at least..... and wages going up a bit :)
@@kohtime Best of luck to you mate, I'm sure there might be a bit of a battle at first but we'll get there.
@George Purves Thanks for the good luck wishes, hope you are settling well with your class 1 and enjoy it, that money sounds fantastic.
@George Purves £25 a hour is lies don't beleive that
You not worried about self driving trucks coming along in the next 10 years?
A milk float more superior than a DAF I think you have got your manufacturers the wrong way round pal. I'm an ex-commercial Volvo mechanic and drove DAFs for 20 years, I speak from experience
I like the Daf